To Tell the Truth - Seneca Indian Chief; Dieting queen; PANEL: Jack Paar (Jun 4, 1957)

PANEL: Polly Bergen, Jack Paar, Kitty Carlisle, Hy Gardner
CONTESTANT #1: Dr. John P. Hagen (Astronomer & Director of Project Vanguard)
CONTESTANT #2: Cornelius Vanderbilt Seneca (Chief of Seneca Indian tribe)
CONTESTANT #3: Helen Gernenz (Queen of organized dieting)
Many thanks, as always, to epaddon for providing his copy of this episode.
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[@Dubyular]

The look on kitty’s face when the woman says she wore a dress size 55

[@Aliyaji4424]

I noticed this too omg

[@daytripperhd]

I'm in love with polly

[@FungusMossGnosis]

Polly's usually the resident goofball in her stead, but here she was the only one who didn't take disgusting, racist shots against the Native American guests. And she's the only one to guess correctly.

[@stevenk9466]

Who isn't?

[@kristabrewer9363]

WOW! TOPS was around in the 50's? I went to Tops 20 years ago!

[@JILL0704USA]

I met Esther Manz, TOPS founder, at the International when it was held in our state in the early '80's. I graduated KOPS there.

[@reneecarter6702]

The gentleman and Chief on the Seneca panel took all the laughing and jokes like champs. Good grief... This is probably one of the better episodes for documenting history, I personally find it fascinating.

[@Gravydog316]

fyi, The Seneca lost their case, as JFK cited the immediate need for flood control; resulting in the Kinzua Dam.

[@totellthetruthcbs4220]

Very interesting.

[@ellencolarusso3902]

Wow! Thanks

[@dfreitag52]

Not surprised. The white man has always screwed anyone he can for his own benefit. Azzholes.

[@zarabada6125]

The radar bit threw me. Radar was a British military secret and wouldn't be shared with America prior to the start of the second world war. However, the fundamental flaw in that logic was that Dr Hagen was Canadian, so could have worked on many pre-war projects with the British.

[@MrMenefrego1]

😒😒

[@JohnParks-zc1pn]

Four months to the day later the Soviets surprised everyone by launching Sputnik I on October 4, 1957, which was the day I was born.

[@kimfuhrmann7700]

ha ha, love how Polly adds her last "and I'm mad" at the very end as Bud is saying goodbye. I think she was right. They should have let her change her vote. She obviously got confused. I would have been mad, too.. But I was glad the contestants won a lot. It would have lowered their prize if they had changed her vote.

[@sbalman]

I find her obnoxious and attention-seeking to the extreme.

[@ItsMeMissV369]

‘ what better job for an Injun then an Injuneer ‘ 😂 I’m part native (injun) and the times have def changed😂 Can’t get over how they laugh at the costumes initially, I thought they looked beautiful, culturally strong and of reference. Native women vote now lol These are funnold episodes to watch!

[@HeWentThattaway]

Jack Paar looked like and had many of the same mannerisms as Johnny Carson.

[@ItsMeMissV369]

Can totally see that in this episode! Sarcasm with a boyish grin lol

[@wattsjetton3027]

Celebrity Guests: 1. Polly Bergen 2. Jack Paar 3. Kitty Carlisle 4. Hy Gardner Host: Bud Collyer

[@MrJoeybabe25]

Jack Paar was on his last legs here, doing a 15 minute daily show on the ABC Radio Network. A month later he would get "The Tonight Show".

[@nelsonricardo3729]

Cornelius Vanderbilt?

[@519djw6]

The Soviets beat the Americans' "Project Vanguard" in October of this year, when they successfully launched "Sputnik," prompting a sense of panic about "the crisis of education" in the USA. It was often said that, while American teenagers were goofing off and listening to rock and roll, young Russians (sic) were busy hitting the books, and that, if Americans didn't do something about this, they'd find themselves a distant Number Two to the "Russkies."

[@janeiwasduncan8463]

In 1958 my family moved to Ecuador. One day we took a day trip away from the city driving on cobblestone roads to visit a tracking station. There was no security (my father was a Navy pilot) so we were allowed in. While we were there Sputnik went over the station and we could hear the famous "beep-beep"!!! It was a Wonderful memory!

[@MrMenefrego1]

@@janeiwasduncan8463 That is such a cool memory!

[@jimmygoodrich9590]

And yet Americans went to the moon

[@519djw6]

@@jimmygoodrich9590 That's true, of course. But do you think there was any reason for America to go to the moon? I can think of many things that were much more important that the USA could have done in the 1960's. Of course, this is just "my opinion."

[@dianemcdowell7617]

In the second game I knew the second contestant wasn't it because of the way he pronounced "his" name: Cornelius Vanderble Seneca. The other two said Vanderbilt.

[@zacharydunlap-tunnage2220]

And yet, nobody caught the gaffe. Not Bud, not the staff, not the panel, NOBODY.

[@marcomacias3960]

is the Indian chief from the Vanderbilt family

[@GirGir183]

18:36 What was Parr's gag about "you've been let out more times than I have"? She changing the size of her clothes? She'd have been taking them in, tho, not letting them out.

[@norfolk03]

i think last segment he was rude

[@VahanNisanian]

So do British Cycles really have smaller wheels than American ones?

[@christopherlovelock9104]

Vahan Nisanian. .. As a cyclist who has ridden both, the answer is NO. If you buy a new 'bike' you can stipulate the type of wheels, gears and size of tyres you want. Unless the 'bike' is for a specific purpose, i.e. 'road racing' or 'mountain biking' then the tyres and frame are specially designed.

[@greydogmusic]

Christopher Lovelock , This was 1957. Not the bikes you ride today. This is from classiccycleus.com. Their Museum page ..... "Here in the United States we wanted to help re-industrialize post-war England, so tariffs on consumer goods like bicycles from England were light or nonexistant. Around 95 percent of all bikes imported into the States in the 1950′s came from England. Bikes like this 1955 Norman “English Roadster” came to the States by the boat load. Built with light steel (for a 1950′s era bike) and sporting thin tires and three speeds, this Norman would have been considered a fast bike. Compared to the big and heavy (but popular) balloon-tire bikes of the American ’50′s, English bikes seemed to offer something different. A quick look at the back pages of a Schwinn catalogue of the era would show a few American versions of this style on offer, but American bicycle brands (like their automotive counterparts) didn’t want to sell practical or efficient. American brands wanted to sell you something with white wall tires, fins, and a lot of chrome."

[@huskyjerk]

Oh, oh Bud......A little ethnic humor there at 16:20....."an injun for an engineer...." Couldn't say that nowadays. tsk, tsk.....But funny, I must say, Bud !

[@kenbrown438]

I was thinking the same thing !!!!

[@VahanNisanian]

Classic Polly at 6:47.

[@VahanNisanian]

More classic Polly at 14:00.

[@Beson-SE]

***** She is lovely every time!

[@Gravydog316]

+Vahan Nisanian disgusting.

[@fawnlliebowitz1772]

You're molting! LOLOLOL

[@Eddie_Schantz]

OMG! Polly Bergen wears me out with her idiotic talk. "I voted for #1, but I think it is #3" "I want to change my vote" "Thats not fair". Just one thing stupid comment after another.

[@VahanNisanian]

Whoa! Yeah, I did think it would be #2 in Game 2.

[@MrMenefrego1]

I'll bet your mommy is ever so proud. 😬

[@robertsvorinich890]

Polly Bergan is my soulmate.

[@safepethaven]

Only Jack Paar would be insulting enough to ask someone to spell "astrophysicist".

[@GirGir183]

Why would that be insulting.

[@greydogmusic]

Selinor578 because +SafePet Haven said so ; )

[@kumppi]

"Can you tell me if the American Indian is dying out now...?" Holy cow what a question.

[@GirGir183]

It's a valid question. He's not saying they are or they aren't. He's just asking.

[@ShamrockNRoller]

"We keep them (women) out of politics." Holy cow what an answer.

[@ItsMeMissV369]

I choked on my coffee, I’m cherokee in 2020😂

[@CoxJoxSox]

That Polly Bergen is annoying

[@kenbrown438]

Is Buddy's wearing a yamaka !!!!????

[@ChrisHansonCanada]

Man #1 in Game #1 Man #3 in Game #2 Lady #3 in Game #3

[@peternagy-im4be]

Unfortunately internet trolling and spoiling is becoming the norm in today's joke society

[@peternagy-im4be]

Please remove this complete and utter troll from the comments section.

[@Beson-SE]

13:26 What is Jack Paar saying? I guess it must be something funny because everyone laughs.

[@VahanNisanian]

Johan Bengtsson Do you realize that you're molding?

[@Beson-SE]

***** No (although that was rather funny!), I meant the question after that. "Can you tell me the meaning of ***?"

[@VahanNisanian]

Johan Bengtsson "Can you tell me the meaning of Kemosabe" (What Tonto called the title character on "The Lone Ranger").

[@Beson-SE]

***** Ok thanks, I have to google that. :)

[@SuperWinterborn]

Johan Bengtsson And in case someone doesn't bother google it: Ke-Mo Sah-Bee means Trusty Scout or Faithful Friend. (Can also be used ironically, then with the opposite meaning). ;)

[@kenyongray2615]

Polly once again trying to take over the show. Jack Paar was a bit of a disappointment at least for me. It is amazing in a relatively short period of time 1957-1969 going from Vanguard to putting a man on the moon. Thanks for the video.

[@davidfritz2957]

Both the audience reaction to the Indian contestants as well as the wisecracks made by the panel were a bit disconcerting. I don't care if it *was* 1957--it was a rude and ignorant way to treat guests.

[@norfolk03]

i agree with you only one was nice was polly bergen about the lady weight lost they all were horrible to these people

[@christopherjones8517]

Game 2 why are they laughing, so sad!

[@mitchweiner]

Polly is gorgeous but I can't stand her constant whining !

[@michaelcox436]

Well, so much for that whole "first satellite in space" thing... and once again Polly thinks the world should revolve around her.

[@kristabrewer9363]

I missed Polly when she was gone, but she can be really annoying sometimes

[@kingforaday8725]

Tough call as to who is more annoying Polly Bergen or Peggy Cass. Although Polly is much more attractive. I dont believe I could watch an episode that had both of them on!!!!

[@nowvoyagerNE]

the amount of racism from the audience, show host and players is shocking ... an engineer and "injun" ... it's hard to believe how unenlightened people were in 1957.

[@sweiland75]

because racism doesn't exist today right? LOL

[@ShamrockNRoller]

It was 1957, and that tribe still didn't let women vote, but you're more concerned about white people laughing at them? You're so excited to be racist to white people, but then don't call-out the Indians for sexism.

[@sassiebrat]

The whole of game #2 is a disgrace on the part of the audience, panel, and Bud. In other words, the Whites.

[@zany208]

Polly is awful, a show off. Kitty is so nice and elegant.

[@edcrowley6118]

I may vomit

[@pamtebelman2321]

Too many racist and sexist comments on these old shows.

[@geraldkatz7986]

Please to comment on Polly Bergen sexually harassing the Rodeo Champion on the previous episode. I'll wait.

[@robinhood480]

How many would be an acceptable amount ? Per episode..... say one or two?

[@sbalman]

I always cringe when these old game shows have a Native American on the program. Such blatant stereotyping and racism.