CHEAPEST Intel Arc B580 Gaming PC - Bad Idea?

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@tomhixonfl
@tomhixonfl 2 сағат бұрын
The B580 8GB typo strikes again! This time in the build guide in the description. At least it was correct in the video this time.
@Conumdrum
@Conumdrum Сағат бұрын
The B580 driver overhead issue is already well documented Sadly, if you need purchase a stronger CPU to get maximum performance, the lower price is not so attractive.
@user-vd9cw6df9p
@user-vd9cw6df9p 56 минут бұрын
Go with an I5 13th gen or I5 14th Gen if you can find it available on a deal to pair with the B580, you don't need an I7 or I9 for gaming.
@FroggyTWrite
@FroggyTWrite 47 минут бұрын
the amd 5700x cpu is very affordable and pairs very well with the b580
@21Dazzler
@21Dazzler 37 минут бұрын
I'd just go with a Ryzen 5600x
@FastGPU
@FastGPU 30 минут бұрын
You can pick up an RX 6700XT for under $300 , upgrade nothing and get better performance
@danielhatheway3158
@danielhatheway3158 2 сағат бұрын
With the RX7600 I found no studders and much better performance with rebar/sam disabled on Black ops 6.
@davefroman4700
@davefroman4700 3 сағат бұрын
You people in the US have it so easy. That motherboard alone is a $300 hit in Canadian Peso's. You can't get the B580 anywhere for less than $389. Heck even buying that chip on Aliexpress is $120 after import duties for me.
@nonaurbizniz7440
@nonaurbizniz7440 3 сағат бұрын
Bad national outcomes? Elect new national leadership.
@DankBlank
@DankBlank 3 сағат бұрын
Bidens world
@mastercroc9829
@mastercroc9829 3 сағат бұрын
its $359 on canada computers and just went back in stock it seems like (few in store also but location dependant)
@MadScientist_01
@MadScientist_01 3 сағат бұрын
That’s insane
@franciscoriccio51
@franciscoriccio51 3 сағат бұрын
Even in Ecuador I have free import and transport fees and decent options for $120 in Amazon.
@GearGolemTMF
@GearGolemTMF Сағат бұрын
There is a difference from what I've seen but to a new user, I don't think its the end of the world. I'd originally built a PC for a friend for Christmas using a b580 and my old 3700x (admittedly, i'd also wanted to use her as a guinea pig to see how the two would work together). Other than her relying on me for troubleshooting, It worked as intended. She doesn't really play heavy games so I knew it'd be fine. The only game that had a genuine problem was Detroit Become Human which is one of those games that don't work well with Arc. Hitman and GTA "didn't work well" for her because vsync was on half in GTA and on in Hitman. After solving those, it ran fine but just to keep it easy for her, I swapped it for a 4060 which more or less performed the same at 1080p. High frame rate wasn't needed as she's on a 75hz monitor.
@technoglow9884
@technoglow9884 2 сағат бұрын
The montage build music is always fire 🔥
@davefroman4700
@davefroman4700 4 сағат бұрын
Yeah paring it with a 3600 is gonna be an issue I bet. I have to wonder if it would be half decent something like a 3700x that you can get dirt cheap today as well?
@pathrazer9624
@pathrazer9624 2 сағат бұрын
really need micro center here in austin would be super awesome.
@FINNIUSORION
@FINNIUSORION 3 сағат бұрын
'everyone's favorite part of the video' ? is that sarcasm? that's the part I skip lol
@Ultimatebubs
@Ultimatebubs 2 сағат бұрын
But... it's sooo pretty! Love that RGB!
@FINNIUSORION
@FINNIUSORION Сағат бұрын
@Ultimatebubs I didn't even hook up the rgb controller in my last build lol. I also made a concerted effort to get parts that are solid black without any branding or writing. It looks pretty cool, reminds me of black stealth aircraft.
@Shwample-FRESH
@Shwample-FRESH 3 сағат бұрын
love your vids dudes! you guys are like the Beavis and Butthead of the pc world.
@davidrains6751
@davidrains6751 3 сағат бұрын
who even has the b580 all the ones available are over priced
@SnakeEyes111
@SnakeEyes111 Сағат бұрын
Me! Super easy, b&h not newegg or amazon
@FellowshipOfTheAviatorZ
@FellowshipOfTheAviatorZ 47 минут бұрын
B&h is a good place to start. Also try Newegg make sure you have the item restock notifications on. Be quick though, they obviously sell fast! Newegg is where I got the ASRock Steel Legend Model at MSRP. For the games we play it's been flawless. And even the newer ones I tested just to see, it works really well so far. I'm on AM5 with a Ryzen 5 7600x and haven't noticed any odd behavior. It's paired to a new build for my wife with this budget minded GPU. But with a priority of future upgradability in mind - (Went completely bonkers on a 1000w Titanium Seasonic PSU with a 10yr warranty. Aaand I'm hoping it lasts for 20 lol)🙏😅
@VHBGaming
@VHBGaming 36 минут бұрын
Microcenter in Miami initially had 12 and they've never been restocked. This time I'm gonna throw the b570 on reserve as soon as they're live
@PlumCrazyPC
@PlumCrazyPC Сағат бұрын
Will be ironed out in the near future. The b580 is still 100% worth it and I believe the b570 will be as well. Can hold a rookie to as high of a standard as the Heisman Trophy winner.
@franciscoriccio51
@franciscoriccio51 3 сағат бұрын
1:10 I don't think people would go to CA with the fires going
@Kitsoonaye
@Kitsoonaye 3 сағат бұрын
I live in CA, the fires do not affect me at all. It's L.A that is affected
@KN-592
@KN-592 2 сағат бұрын
power efficiency though. give us more benchmarks, throw in indie games, older games etc
@gamefandrg
@gamefandrg 3 сағат бұрын
B580 don't work well with weak CPU. You need a powerful CPU to run B580
@Jeff.78
@Jeff.78 2 сағат бұрын
They explained that if you watched the video.
@Heretic306
@Heretic306 Сағат бұрын
Whaaaat!? This is almost my PC! -R5 3600, -Thermal Right cooler (but Burst Assassin) -ASRock mobo (but X570e). The rest is different, Corsair PSU, 32gb 3600 RAM, Rocket 4.0 m.2, Thermal Take case, etc. But still cool to see how well the Arc B580 would actually work with my setup.
@KeRmiTaKilla
@KeRmiTaKilla 2 сағат бұрын
Selling my 4070 super and buying that whole pc. Sold
@Alvysmangle
@Alvysmangle Сағат бұрын
10:37 tukutak tak teo tukutak tak teo
@Buddy-D
@Buddy-D 2 сағат бұрын
I just finished a build in this case and it’s starving for airflow, I should’ve went with the aqua case with the mesh bottom 7:46
@GuamTheBear
@GuamTheBear Сағат бұрын
It's showing RX 7600 on both sides in the Marvel Rivals comparison
@Flooran-c7T
@Flooran-c7T 3 сағат бұрын
Fire vid plz keep it up🎉
@reeswarren4329
@reeswarren4329 Сағат бұрын
I want one of these but cannot find any in the UK at a reasonable price
@c9chef
@c9chef Сағат бұрын
Any chance you might do a video where you keep the B580 and swap between low and high end AMD and Intel CPU's???
@Mykl1666
@Mykl1666 57 минут бұрын
In your last benchmark you showed the side by side but both were gpu 7600
@misterPAINMAKER
@misterPAINMAKER 54 минут бұрын
It seems that Intel Drivers have more cpu overhead.
@noahradford9218
@noahradford9218 10 минут бұрын
Intel all the way. Need them to make a good mid to high end gpu now
@darkkingastos4369
@darkkingastos4369 57 минут бұрын
And the 7600 was being nerfed by gen 3 pcie as well
@arch1107
@arch1107 2 сағат бұрын
a 3600 is a old chip now, lol for me, old is 10 years
@mainegreengrower4209
@mainegreengrower4209 49 минут бұрын
b580 hashes at 450-480 mh warthog..rx 6750xt 500-700 depending on oc..
@drakebasinger9588
@drakebasinger9588 25 минут бұрын
I wish you guys would review the ASROCK ARC B580 Steel Legend 12GB OC. I really want you guys input on it.
@ToastyBros
@ToastyBros 10 минут бұрын
It’s in our $800 build guide we just did! We like it
@PotaraEditZ
@PotaraEditZ 4 сағат бұрын
Yo i cant afford a super thanks but thanks for making good content ❤
@RobertFixit
@RobertFixit 2 сағат бұрын
Another build with a GPU nobody can buy. Intel marketing is laughing at us right now.
@potato927
@potato927 Сағат бұрын
You can fix it, Robert!
@BenEater-u4f
@BenEater-u4f 53 минут бұрын
You can buy it but it will be more expensive then the one in the video ofc
@BenEater-u4f
@BenEater-u4f 53 минут бұрын
Found alot on ebay
@BaconBeast11
@BaconBeast11 2 сағат бұрын
I bought a 7600 1 year before the b580 came out 😢
@chipwitgaming
@chipwitgaming 2 сағат бұрын
Hey are those top fans intake or exhaust?
@CodeDonut
@CodeDonut Сағат бұрын
personally would use the Zalman GigaMax 700W 80+ Bronze psu over the segotep.
@davidpomerantz
@davidpomerantz 2 сағат бұрын
Wouldn't the 3600 be too weak for the b580?
@xthugniifcent_9695
@xthugniifcent_9695 2 сағат бұрын
Did the motherboard bottleneck the gpu
@tylorcarlson-nc8up
@tylorcarlson-nc8up Сағат бұрын
can this problem be solved with driver updates? if so i see this card out performing the other budget cards in its class if thats the case
@designedsilence117
@designedsilence117 3 сағат бұрын
Do you have any systems that are used regularly with the Segotep 650W 80+ Gold? Curious on its reliability.
@arch1107
@arch1107 2 сағат бұрын
they sell most if not all with that brand, untill they change brand, i would think it is doing well
@buildyourcomputer
@buildyourcomputer Сағат бұрын
the segotep they use is a b tier unit on the psu cultist list.
@kindzadza134
@kindzadza134 44 минут бұрын
Well, to be honest I am not surprised and such issues are to be expected for a newcomer in this market like Intel. Let's not forget that the current generation of both nVidia and AMD are a result of literally decades of technical evolution, ironing problems and fixing compatibility issues which naturally leads to a lot of good built-up legacy of backwards driver compatibility with such older CPUs - something Intel obviously does not have for a number of very good reasons and expecting a great backwards compatibility for long obsolete CPUs is unreasonable. Intel is a contemporary competitive card for current contemporary competitive systems, it is what it is.
@KN-592
@KN-592 2 сағат бұрын
if they fix the drivers then maybe
@rshuadfrancis4218
@rshuadfrancis4218 2 сағат бұрын
Still think saving some money and getting a ryzen 5 7500F and cheap b650 mobo for around 280-300 issa better buy but love you guys tho 🙏🏾❤
@tonymerasty
@tonymerasty 3 сағат бұрын
it's going to be long time before intel is a tried and true gpu brand,there is no big return for innovating ,just do things better at cost effective efficiency better bus vram ,clock speeds etc the criteria is already present just do it better for the consumers needs .
@TyrooShino
@TyrooShino 2 сағат бұрын
Okay... but this GPU is still worth buying with an older CPU. They're focused on real performance, and push the limits of tech. AT AFFORDABLE COST. Even if there is issues with drivers (oh no... 10 frames). If you don't support this GPU, you'll just enable the dog pile that is the new age NVIDIA "graphics" cards. it's AMD + Intel to the moon!
@kraigdeming4721
@kraigdeming4721 Сағат бұрын
I am using a Arc b580, but getting big dips in my FPS compared to your example in fortnite. I have a ryzen 9 5900x CPU. What specs are you playing at?
@leonardorequena4122
@leonardorequena4122 3 сағат бұрын
will it bottleneck with ryzen 5 4500 cpu?
@Enjinercraft
@Enjinercraft 2 сағат бұрын
It bottlenecks a little with the 3600 which is better, but as long as you have resizable bar enabled on the system it will work fine
@leonardorequena4122
@leonardorequena4122 21 минут бұрын
@@Enjinercraft i got a b450 tomohawk does it have resizable bar?
@moodhot
@moodhot 2 сағат бұрын
please test KYO motherboard for LGA 1700 😣
@theredwedge9446
@theredwedge9446 6 минут бұрын
Great build though I want to say its funny how you cant even buy a b580 for 250 dollars it doesnt make sense why youd buy such a card for 400 dollars when you buy a different card from amazon for that much WITH MORE PERFORMANCE. Like why does scalping this card make any sense ??? Sure for a top tier gpu when you cant buy anything else but this is a specific entry level card.
@greendro6410
@greendro6410 Сағат бұрын
Nice video alright 😃
@Russiangamerpro2021
@Russiangamerpro2021 2 сағат бұрын
Do you ever try running VR games with a budget PC by using Intel arc B580 because one of the KZbinrs never tried Intel arc B580 for VR games it has enough VRAM for VR games like 12 GB should be enough even if it’s a budget bill it’s a good enough profit for VR games but I feel like they’re not gonna run it because maybe there’s some KZbinrs will run it but they need to wait until it was fully released because they didn’t release those car yet they only do pre-ordered not a pre-released they only do pre-ordered which is mean they make a release it the whole market until people were gonna buy it until they can review it but the price might change. Yes it’s 250 but they may increase it to $270 or $280 depends on what brand because some brand will make it look nicer and make the cost to go high
@supermegarichkid2138
@supermegarichkid2138 2 сағат бұрын
ram???, 512g ssd holds like 3 games in this day and age(if you're lucky) I'm so glad "BAD IDEA" is in the title of the vid, lol
@Russiangamerpro2021
@Russiangamerpro2021 2 сағат бұрын
I wish they have Micro Center closer to Portland Oregon because I live in Portland Oregon and they don’t have Micro Center nearby states because a lot of states don’t have Micro Center to be closer to Oregon it’s too far away only California has it but it’s too far away and plus the gas price is too expensive and it’s too expensive just to travel over there just to see it not really it’s just a gas price. I’m not gonna travel that far just to pay more gallon just to go to a place I wish Micro Center can be in Washington or somewhere not that farand be more cheaper
@aleksazunjic9672
@aleksazunjic9672 Сағат бұрын
Don't buy B580 for anything less than r5 5600. It is not a budget GPU, more like mid-tier GPU.
@Gamebit450
@Gamebit450 Сағат бұрын
Nice video ...lol whats it matter you cant get the B580 anyway so its pointless to talk about it!
@theorphanobliterator
@theorphanobliterator 41 минут бұрын
b580 only has issues with older, crapier ryzen cpus
@frogslayer4849
@frogslayer4849 3 сағат бұрын
Why not pair this with an older budget Ali express x99 and Xeon? Maybe it can handle the extra overhead? Maybe not? It's not like am4 platform really has much of an "upgrade path" anymore anyways...
@ivanvladimir0435
@ivanvladimir0435 2 сағат бұрын
What? A xeon e5 2680 v4 can at best "match" a ryzen 5 5500, while you can still jump all the way to a ryzen 5 5800x3d/5700x3d if you want further upgrades
@hvdiv17
@hvdiv17 2 сағат бұрын
If all you do is play fortnight,cod,marvel rivals and maybe gta 6 when it launches just get a $250 xbox series s and game pass its the best budget deal in gaming if you want to spend $200 more you can get the series x all digital edition for $450. i wouldnt waste $450 on a crappy pc to play fornight or cod id buy a xbox series x all digital edition for $450
@LawlessTJ
@LawlessTJ 2 сағат бұрын
I mean if you want to get locked into paying for online and paying Xbox games pass subscription then sure. But pc just has more freedom and the bang for buck very much comes from the experience, steam is great, epic games you able to pick up free games sometimes even triple A, you have access to modding basically any game if you willing to put in the work, Also indie games you have access to
@Arejen03
@Arejen03 2 сағат бұрын
i wouldnt pay more for b 580 than 250 Euro, its 300+ euro in Germany no thanks
@practicalebony3669
@practicalebony3669 2 сағат бұрын
I live in America and the cheapest B580 is 354$ on ebay..... I'm getting tired of hearing how affordable this is when you can get a 4060 for 299$ on Amazon or Walmart right now. The price has not and will not go down.
@toufusoup
@toufusoup 2 сағат бұрын
I sort of wished y'all put a Ryzen 7 5700X or something to see if you got more performance or not, but hey, even though the 3600 is coming on a bit of age now, for it to pair with the B580 and 7600 pretty well, not bad
@GearandGaming
@GearandGaming 2 сағат бұрын
They kept the same motherboard and CPU. Just changed the GPU out to a Radeon RX 7600.
@tonymerasty
@tonymerasty 3 сағат бұрын
let's go womp some fortnite critters lol
@powerplayer1298
@powerplayer1298 2 сағат бұрын
The 580 needs Rebar enabled
@ToastyBros
@ToastyBros 2 сағат бұрын
It is enabled on this system
@paulsylvester1394
@paulsylvester1394 2 сағат бұрын
Guys! Why bother doing this? This $250 card is not available. Your build is useless to us because the card is vaporware! Paying $400 does not cut it!
@shadyonej
@shadyonej 3 сағат бұрын
4th !!!!!!! lets go !
@Wozy102
@Wozy102 3 сағат бұрын
i got more fps on warzone with a rx5600XT and a ryzen 5 2600x
@The_Animakerm
@The_Animakerm 3 сағат бұрын
24th
@Kounelaki-s7u
@Kounelaki-s7u 3 сағат бұрын
15th
@WilliamHinks
@WilliamHinks 2 сағат бұрын
Day 2 of asking toasty bros for a gaming pc
@The_culture151
@The_culture151 4 сағат бұрын
FIRST
@abreadgod-x8q
@abreadgod-x8q 4 сағат бұрын
ok
@jaquellgreen1418
@jaquellgreen1418 4 сағат бұрын
3rd
@Foxethan999
@Foxethan999 4 сағат бұрын
Yo since I’m the first commenter can I win a pc pls im tired of gaming on a chromebook
@radradR0bot
@radradR0bot 4 сағат бұрын
Get a job
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@bumbaclot813 3 сағат бұрын
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@Goshin07 3 сағат бұрын
Get 3 jobs
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@Monotoniq 3 сағат бұрын
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@JABBAWOKKY 3 сағат бұрын
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