Shooting Better 4K Video / Canon M50 Video Guide / Part Four

[@dominey]

NOTE: In this video, I mention that EF and EF-S lenses work with the Viltrox M2 Speed Booster. That's not true. Only EF lenses work. Apparently, I confused the Viltrox M2 with the Viltrox M, the latter of which supports both EF and EF-S lenses, but doesn't demagnify the image. Sorry for the confusion.

[@davidj.7906]

LOL....beat me to it....I bought an EF-s 10-18 lens, and I could not use the Viltrox....THANK you for this video, I was unaware of the benefit of the Viltrox when shooting 4K....Great job as always!

[@bottomlinereviews6798]

Just to clarify, EFM lenses work with the speed booster and gain all the benefits too ?

[@davidj.7906]

@@bottomlinereviews6798 Yes....EF-S lenses do not....you have to use a regular EF to M adapter for those

[@Linteria]

​@@davidj.7906 Hmm, i believe Todd specifically said in the video that you cannot use EFM lenses with the speed booster, it only works with EF lenses. Since it’s an adapter for lenses with different mounts, it would make sense that native mount lenses wouldn’t work anymore when the speed booster is on, unfortunately.

[@davidj.7906]

@@Linteria well, yes he did....but he did not mention that you cannot use EF-S lenses, which is why he added that note on in the comments.

[@Stayinyourmoment]

Just bought my first Canon m50 , my first camera. Perfect for a beginner

[@htnevermind1709]

This was a great series. So thorough and well produced and presented. Super informative, inspiring and just beautifully done all around. Keep up the great work Todd!

[@esvarwyn]

4k for scenic video and filmmaking, using manual focus with focus peaking, 1080p for vlogging and action videos. Canon is clear in the manual that the 4k crop limitation is because of direct pixel translation (the crop is 4k pixels) rather than downscaling the full 6k sensor - ultimately, this is cleaner footage.

[@patrickfitzgerald2861]

I've owned the M50 for three years. The 4K issues are well known, but it's also worth mentioning that with the 4K crop the camera records with fewer sensor megapixels than a typical bridge camera. Also, both the 24fps and 30fps 1080p settings in the M50 record at 28 Mbits. Only 60fps records at a respectable 60 Mbits. I now use this camera strictly for shooting wildlife with an adapted EF-S 55-250/f4-5.6 IS MK II at 60fps. The handheld results are pretty good, and the whole kit weighs in at 950 grams, or about 2 pounds.

[@JeepTJWheelin]

I have the Laowa 9mm f/2.8 which is a powerhouse lens for shooting real estate photos and videos. However, there are times where I miss having the Sigma 16mm f/1.4 shooting houses with poor natural light on cloudy days. Unfortunately, that lens is no where near wide enough for real estate. Viltrox mentions on their website that certain third party lenses such as the Laowa 9mm will work on the Canon M50. I get many who say, as long as it's an EF lens, and has the red dot, not the white, it should work. While some like yourself say it won't. I'll know next week for sure when it arrives. If not, I'll be returning it, and selling the Canon M50 along with the Laowa lens. And moving on to the Canon R50 with the Laowa 9mm f2.8 RF mount lens. RF glass is vastly superior to EF, and the R50 performs much better in low light than the M50, in addition to having amazing 6k down sampling to 4k which looks professional. And no 4k @30fps crop!

[@bjeet28]

Useful video of creative using 4k on m50

[@LaHappy-c1o]

the most honest and beautiful face on the internet! I love your character, the way you talk! you have such a beautiful positive energy when you talk makes me believe anything you say!!!! you have such a great spot in politics podcast! plz consider!!!! the halo around you is rare!!!!, thank you so much for the video! you are the #1 most loved character I ever seen in my life time video.if you run for president I vote for you without looking at your plan or portfolio LOL!!

[@AliBaba-hn8tv]

Waah Ustad kia baath hai, amazing informational video. THANK YOU.

[@watchdogpedro]

Todd of all the hundreds of videos i have watched over the last 3 years, you still have them all beat. Can you give me some ideas on the lighting you use in studio you use?

[@7ombische]

Once again superb video Todd! I bought the Viltrox Speedbooster and it works great for B-Roll & portraits with a nifty fifty - taking it to 1.4 max aperture. The extra benefit is by getting an additional standard EF/EF-S to EF-M adapter the cheap Canon 50mm now becomes a 2 in 1 fast prime lens. All I needed was the EFM 22mm for talking head and wider B-Roll. And the standard M50 stabilized kit lens for occasional vlogging. The real gripe I have with the M50 is it’s limited dynamic range. It’s good enough in 1080p.

[@MikeWangCoaching]

Very helpful - thank you! I've never really bothered shooting in 4K on my M50 before. So it's nice to learn what the practical options are!

[@jizzythefroggy1108]

*I work around the cropped 4K with a Laowa 9mm lens.*

[@unhondurenoxelmundo]

Thank you Todd!!! greetings from Honduras, Central America!

[@NitishakaSwiftz]

Thank You. This brought me much clarity.

[@nicorfilms]

I enjoyed very much. thanks for the four series of your video. More power to you sir.

[@KACIKE_AGUEYBANA]

Yes you can hack the ef-s lenses,you only have to change the bayonet from ef- to ef mount bayonet

[@EdwinRucci]

I use the booster and the 10-18 and its impressive!

[@watchdogpedro]

Thanks Todd for the great reference video just wanted to say how we appreciate all your hard work on these.

[@candicecan1634]

I appreciate this series so much! Thanks a lot, Todd!

[@ArdenDIY]

thank you for your suggestion

[@MattTucker]

This is a fantastic series thank you. I must admit I have been a bit disappointed and frustrated since getting this camera last year. This certainly doesn't fix all the issues with it but at least makes the 4k capture much more usable and now i can use my nice EF-S lenses. My question with this is, what happens if you shoot with the viltrox and ef-s lenses in 1080P mode?

[@carlos6th]

this series is soooooo helpful.. great job! thanks for doing this vids..

[@nataliaputri2887]

I watched all parts and it's so helpful! Thank you very much for the videos and have great days!

[@Techamooz]

I have Canon m50 mark ii with Sigma 16mm lens. I used to shoot 1080 24 fps but now I want to shoot 4k. However, I have problem with auto focus! What's your suggestion for this issue? And also because its one year later if there is any update for mark ii to uncrop the 4k shooting?

[@champalalgoutam6799]

Very nice photos and vidio🏇

[@ellicottraven2037]

Really good tutorials - all 4. Thanks

[@bjeet28]

M50 mk2 came,and it has all flaws which mk1 has😅😅. Still we are using it

[@helenaclemons5287]

Thank you so much! I've learned so much about the differences with 4k and 1080 HD technology is so Awesome an advancing quickly, it's great to have knowledgeable people like you break it down to make it more understandable

[@Karim.Adwan03]

I needed this video thank you so much

[@benboonproduction]

Nice review thanks

[@Linteria]

Todd, great series. I hear you on the desire for uncropped 4K on the next Canon mirrorless cam, but i feel obliged to remind you that the M6ii already has this feature, along with Dual Pixel AF (correct me if i'm wrong). You seem to imply no Canon cam has this feature currently, which is inaccurate. But i do hope the next M50 has it, too!

[@ReelVibes8]

Helpful, thank you. Would have been nice to see a side by side of the normal 1080 HD and the 4k with the Viltrox to see how much of the crop was removed.

[@elliegault]

I have a question! I use a commlite adapter for EF to EF-M, how does the viltrox work with that situation? Can I use both?

[@michaelspencer9057]

This was a super useful video!

[@yank1tonybats511]

Great videos. I've learned a lot from your channel

[@pruett89]

Words can’t describe how good your videos are, just discovered and I’ve watched 3 already! Wonderful work, I also have an M50 and have been on this journey as well. Unfortunately for me, I didn’t capitalize on it by making such outstanding videos with my finding

[@shzammpatapon9865]

i don't care too much about crop or the manual focus, slap in speedbooster and you still get less crop than a micro four thirds but the horrible rolling shutter is killing me

[@bolumstar]

How good is the 4K video Quality in M50 with the crop? Is it noticeably better than 1080p? Does the speed boost improved quality?

[@StudyMD]

For me it’s the autofocus that I’m still hesitant on using the 4K for...

[@ampthebassplayer]

Yeah, good autofocus can really be the difference between getting the shot and not. Ever since I started using the M50, I've noticed a lot of my favorite KZbinrs (who have much nicer cameras to boot) struggle with autofocus. Much better to have sharp focus on a 1080 shot than to be blurry on a 4k one.

[@esvarwyn]

Cinematography doesn't use autofocus. Vlogging does. Focus peaking is brilliant.

[@AffanSyedx]

What about usual A-roll, Like home videos for youtube?

[@dba9923]

No one talking about this mans voice

[@RockWILK]

Great video, thank you. I think the 4k should be usable in the M50 for video, because with many high end cinema cameras, you need to manually focus anyway, and so, I don't understand why this makes the M50 "unusable" to so many people. Just go into manual focus and set up your shot properly. I think this is an issue only for Vlogging, I guess, but for filmmaking, if you're using something like a Blackmagic camera, or one of the really high end cinema cameras, you're only option is manual focus.... I think the speedbooster and the lenses you use open the M50 up to be a great 4k camera for this price.

[@RockWILK]

@@mezzb Amen. 🙏😉

[@kuuleiakeo]

Thank You Todd!

[@youmeandworld9927]

Waiting for the this video. Thanks nice video. Love it. But still watching 🧑‍💻

[@blenderous7496]

Thank you

[@julioayalapuertoricodroner]

Hi Todd, Thank you for the excellent tutorial. I'm very new to videography. I recently bought the Viltrox adapter you recommend but it does not fit the lens. I have an EFS 18-55mm on my Canon M50. What am I doing wrong?

[@MehediHasanSizan]

I don't need autofocus for cooking videos but I do need that 4k so I will buy m50 body+viltrox m2 but what EF lens should I buy for food videos? Note: I can buy only one.

[@Zx30]

I would not suggest trying to Vlog in the 4k; The autofocus is just terrible in 4K. Stick to 1080 for vlogging and 4k things that can be manually focused. Great series by the way! 😁

[@richardjefferson4958]

Thanks!

[@grmstudios7489]

Pretty good videos man! Thanks for sharing

[@CaptureBySay]

Hi. Can i know this youtube video u record with canon m50 too?

[@jamesbradley3808]

so with the viltrox, I can use my 18-55 IS lens on my canon m50? I heard that you can only use EF lens? not EFS??

[@Sir-IKON]

I am wanting to do video in 4k from a tripod interview style. I only have a 50mm but I have the speed booster. will this work out?

[@thiagocoimbra9902]

I may be confusing, but this place(3:06) is a scenario that has in "The Conjuring 3" haahah

[@AhmadAbdelAzim]

they removed the 4k crop in canon m6 mark ii

[@tonymckeage1028]

Thanks Todd, Great Vlog, why not just invest in an R5 ... There has to be limits to what they get out of the M50 camera

[@dominey]

I made a video about my frustrations with the R5. No question it's a great camera, but for the kind of video I produce, the cool down timer post-overheating would be a real issue. That's caused me to rethink what kind of camera would be best for photography and video. Looking like it may be best to buy 2 separate cameras.

[@baqcasanke]

Cause thats a 4,000$ camera and the m50 is a 600$ camera 😂 lol they’re not even close to the same. If someones looking at an m50’chances are they can’t/won’t spend 4,000$ lmao

[@MarriedBikelife]

so wait can you answer so im sure the 16mm lens i need to order to work with speed booster is a ef-s

[@PaulRansonArt]

Hello Todd. Thank you for your extensive review and setup of this camera. I'm just about to purchase an M50Mk2 for use in our art studio. Primarily for top down or painting demonstrations and tutorials. My question is what lens? I'm not a pro film maker so will the kit lens fit the bill or would I be better going for a different lens. Thanks again

[@perrypelican9476]

Is it theoretically possible to make an adapter that fixes the crop for ef-m lenses? Also, I am fine with 1080p. There is a speed booster made by another company that costs a lot more that has better image quality. It looks like the viltrox one is a no brainer. I really love my m50. The drawbacks don't draw me back. I am not experienced. I am getting better every day. I bought only one extra lens so far, the canon 22mm f2 pancake. I also bought an ND filter. Do you think it makes sense to buy a set of step down and step up adapters? I also use a small rig cage, which is so handy for attaching things like small lights and microphones. It is also good for attaching the camera to a tripod in a way to not block things like the battery door. My favourite accessory is a hollow batter that allows you to plug power via USB, plugged in or to a heavy duty battery pack. I can have the battery pack in my backpack or pocket of a vest etc. It makes the camera useable for days without interruption. OK it involves a wire that could get in the way, but once you get used to it, it's worth it for the peace of mind. If I am outside and want to put the camera on a tripod, I just Kay the backpack beside it. Imagine if Canon would stop being penny pinchers and give us normal 4K video with all the stuff that 1080p gives you. Canon does not have to be like that to save push people to upgrade. The best canon can do is get as many loyal customers as possible. They will get those customers by NOT being so greedy. They will sell way more cameras and lenses instead of holding back features for the sake of forcing customers to have to upgrade their cameras just to get things like dual pixel auto focus with 4K video. They would sell so many more m50s and those people would be so happy and for sure eventually buy a better canon camera instead of a Sony. Loyalty is the most impirtant thing, not penny punching every customer with reduced features. Could a firmware update theoretically give us dual pixel AF for 4K??

[@wildfeuer]

Cool tipp!!!!!!!

[@chhattubouri2056]

Sir which lens are you showing in this video thumbnail ?

[@ElBoyoElectronico]

Ok ok, I get it! I will get the Speedbooster 😄

[@Ironheart1234]

Amazing 💪

[@diarejaff5436]

which camera and lens you use for youtube vedio?

[@toninavasco]

Hi Todd. Your contents are greats and visually appealing. Your tutorials about the Canon Eos M50 were really enlightening for me. I know there are better mirrorless in 2020, but... you convinced me to buy this camera, for a vlogging project. But apart from that, I'm basically a cinematic lover. I'd like to try to exploit the full potential of this camera. So let me ask to you: does it make sense, in your opinion, to mount on this camera a Meike Prime 35mm T2.1 lens (EF mount) using the viltrox speedboster or is it a completely crazy idea? In Europe this lens costs 460 Euros, so it is quite competitive in terms of price, but... what performance can it have on the EOS M50 for cinematic, compared to the 32mm canon lens that you showed in this series?

[@sky360aerialmedia]

Hi Todd! As a fellow Atlanta resident, it's great to see some familiar sights in this video...thanks so much for your helpful videos. I just purchased a Canon M50 mII and am wondering if you have any tricks for overcoming the 4K crop with an 11-22 mm EFM lens? I assume the Valtrex speed booster would not help since this is an EF-M lens? I'm trying to find a way to shoot wide in 4k without the crop. Thanks so much!

[@dominey]

Hey ATL :) It's true, a speedbooster is only compatible with EF / EF-S lenses, not EF-M. The best way I've found to help avoid the 4K crop with EF-M lenses is to physically back up.

[@liamjewell62]

The rolling shutter on the m50 (and rp) are the biggest downsides for me, basically makes them useless unless your on a tripod or doing relatively static shots with wide lenses

[@CamiloMaster10]

Thanks so much for this series Todd, you should be a getting a loooooooot more views than you do but that’s not what it’s about obviously. Just wanna say thank you too for helping me get my sigma 30 mm.

[@neiltuiza7095]

Hi sir Todd, uhm can I ask question why some other photographers complains that using the speed booster in the m50 can give a little bit of a compromise in detail and sharpness but in video I think it isn't. If you encounter that or notice it and have some way to combat it please let me know thank you :) .

[@joseacarrasm]

The viltrox glass don't allow to mount EF S lenses

[@vipinography7596]

I just bought 30mm sigma dc dn EF-M lens considering that it will be equivalent to 50mm.. am I right??

[@Chase-Video]

Yep or thereabouts.

[@baqcasanke]

Todd you made a mistake right in the beginning. You say 4k is twice the resolution of 1080p... this is false. 4k has approx 4x the resolution as 1080p. About 8 million pixels vs about 2 million pixels.

[@Chase-Video]

Great video and series, Todd. I can live without the wide field of view or lack of autofocus in 4K if I have to. The biggest issue with 4K on the M50 is the horrible rolling shutter. It makes handheld video almost unusable.

[@bodinian]

Commenting from the future to tell you the M50 Mark II rumor was true.

[@dhruvaswal5429]

First of all this speed booster dont work with ef-s lens . And there is a misconception regarding adding a stop of light with speed booster because , already in crop sensor we also need to add crop to the fstops and speed booster just returns the lost fstop. For better understnding visit tony northup's channel .

[@dominey]

Ah, nuts. I got the speed booster mixed up with the general Viltrox EF-M adapter. I'll put up a sticky comment to clarity. Thanks for pointing this out.

[@shzammpatapon9865]

nope, tony explain it wrongly to the viewer. the depth of field is times 1.6 but you still getting extra additional stop of light.

[@Chase-Video]

It definitely adds an extra stop of light. Very useful in low light video situations.

[@MrChris-bx7ss]

How about a 9mm ultrawide to beat the 4K crop? This lens combined with a small gimble solves a lot of problems. I personally am fine with the 1080p and high quality glass with the M50 but since everyone keeps humping 4K, I shot this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bobQgZuMZ96XsKM

[@howardmcmillian5764]

7:52 :(

[@peterliemberg]

Beats me why someone who obviously hardly knows what he's talking about thinks that it is a good idea to do this talking in a youtube 'how-to' video. There are about a dozen youtube videos (if not more) explaining the pros and cons of the Viltrox speed booster for the Canon M series camera's way better. In general, the so-called 'Full Frame' lenses that go onto the Canon APS-C and Full Frame cameras work with the Viltrox speed booster, while the APS-C lenses, specifically made for the Canon APS-C bodies don't work. The latter cause heavy vignetting - that indeed isn't a factor anymore when you switch to 4k on the Canon M50, due to the crop. Many 'Canon APS-C' lenses from other brands can be attached to the Viltrox speed booster like the ones from Tamron, Sigma, and Tokina. (but you get vignetting when using them for anything else than 4k filming) The APS-C lenses from Canon, AKA the 'EF-S' lenses cannot even be attached to the Viltrox speed booster, since they have an extra plastic ring that interferes with the glass of the speed booster. (As in 'IT DOES NOT FIT') I have a Tokina 'full-frame' Fisheye 10-17 mm F3.5-4.5 DX that fits perfectly on my M50 + speed booster Combo, replacing a Tamron 'APS-C' 12-18mm lens that - though it could be fitted onto the speed booster - caused heavy vignetting (except in 4k of course) Finally, when it comes to 'vlogging in 4k' with a Canon M50, for relatively little money ($150 or so) you can get a 7.5mm 7Artisans F2.8-22 Eos-M lens with manual focusing, while the aperture on that lens is 'stepless'. Guess what is also on the M50? YES, focus peaking! (red, yellow or blue fringe around 'what is in focus') - excellent feature, especially when the dual pixel focus isn't available anymore and in 4k your autofocus lens starts to chase-all-over-the-place. Besides, when you film in 4k with that 7Artisans lens, it turns into a 12mm lens, which is ideal for your lovely talking head selfie shots. Set the aperture at F5.6, the distance at 2 feet, and your 'range of perfect sharpness' will be 1 - 40 feet or so... /Rant Peace, out.

[@dominey]

Hi Peter - appreciate your thorough response. I pinned a comment (from me) at the top of this thread acknowledging my mistake regarding EF-S lenses. There are two Viltrox EF-M adapters - one that accepts EF-S, one that does not - and I accidentally mixed them up. Second, I'm glad to hear the 7Artisans lens works well for you when vlogging. And just to clarify, by "vlogging" I mean holding the camera out in front of you and filming while walking. In my experience, auto focus is important for this because the camera tends to move quite a lot. At least it does with me. I can see how an aperture like f/5.6 might create enough depth-of-field for reasonably sharp shots, but that could introduce a fair amount of noise and loss of image quality because ISO values would then have to be raised. It's really a no win situation, unfortunately. If someone introduced a prime 12mm auto-focus lens, that would be ideal.

[@peterliemberg]

@@dominey The 7.5mm F2.8 works reasonably well outdoors on a sunny day in 4k IMHO. example here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jV69gWiZnZ5rmac If however, you want to use it indoors, or even in the evening with only artificial light, you are 'getting nowhere fast' if you don't put a video-light on top of your M50 - but a small '49 led' video-light on top of your camera gives reasonable results IMHO. See here kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZa6l5RppK6hi5I (sorry, I'm speaking Dutch here - never got around to make English subtitles, but the images speak for themselves. They were shot with the lens at F4 and set on a focal distance of 0.6 meters. A led light like the one used here, with 49 LEDs will set you back $30 or so and is widely available...) Translation of what I say at the end of this video 'You will never be chased by your autofocus if you don't have autofocus' ;-) That said, though I still have a Canon M50 with 'an arsenal' of lenses and adapters, nowadays when I want to make a 'vlogging type' youtube video I find it much easier to use my new toy - a Fimi Palm gimbal camera that can shoot 4k in 25 or 24 fps. It is much easier to carry around, weighs 130 grams, and gives excellent results. For comparison: My M50 with a Tokina Fisheye 10-17mm F3.5-4.5 on a Viltrox speed booster with a directional microphone, mounted on my Moza Aircross gimbal weighs MORE THAN 2 KILOGRAMS. The 'ease of use' of the Fimi Palm (that also can be equipped with an external microphone) by far outweighs the only slightly better footage I can get out of the M50 in the above configuration. The only setback of the Fimi Palm (or DJI Osmo pocket etc.) I find that I always must keep my reading glasses nearby... ;-)

[@Chase-Video]

There might be something lost in translation here but your comment is coming off a little harsh there, mate. I agree with most of what you've said about the adapters and am familiar with the 7Artisans fisheye lens. I think the rolling shutter is still a bit much in a 4K vlogging test with the Artisan 7.5 but it might not be a big deal to everyone, I guess. Anyway, go have a pint and relax, it's almost the weekend :-)

[@Akirilus]

Or hear me out, you could not buy a entry level camera to do pro work in 4k...

[@brijtoofar]

This is the most boring part 1 to part 1000? Who the heck can keep up with parts? If you would condense your motor mouth tendency to 20 minutes total total, and talk less techie, it would be interesting. Yawn