The Moe Norman and Bryson DeChambeau Secret

[@ToddGravesGolf]

To find out more about the Single Plane Swing, I have created a "Single Plane Pocket coach" that you can take to the range, or course, and learn the fundamentals of the swing. Find out more about the Pocket Coach here: SwingPocketGuide.com.

[@GENODELMAROATL]

Is there a place in Atlanta yet

[@anthonycentoni]

I purchased the course try to follow to the letter however I can’t stop topping the ball with this set up.

[@ToddGravesGolf]

@@anthonycentoni Stance too wide. Ball position too far forward.

[@AmericanBandstandAgain]

@@anthonycentoni I tee the ball high and don't lean forward too much, just stretch my arms out straight, works for me

[@3for5spotshooter]

No and they won’t be playing in a few years. The modern swing ruins backs. Bryson will play without back injury. Mor hit lots of balls his entire life. Note that the dominant seniors on tour were not the dominant players of their eras with a fee exceptions. Play without pain the Moe way. And finally There is a generation of top amateurs now seining like Bryson. Its coming. Get ready.

[@debbielee2191]

Todd, I have been playing golf for about 30 years. I have been watching your single plane swing videos and I have to say you and Moe have changed my golf game so much. I can’t believe what this swing has done for my game. I was told by my golf coach to forget about Moe’s swing. He said it’s a gimmick and no one can duplicate his swing. I can’t wait to show him and tell him how wrong he is with the conventional golf swing. I’m 66 years old and this swing is so efficient and easy for me. I can’t believe how straight my ball goes now.

[@criticalhistory2023]

👏 single plane is more logical than 2 planes what improvements you see so far?

[@mdeodar]

God bless Moe Norman and his legacy! Let's Go, Bryson!! Thanks for keeping Moe's memory alive and well, Scott! ⛳️

[@dannymcneal]

Long before I had ever heard of Moe Norman, out of desperation I started using a single-plane extension at address. As much as I tried, and as hard as my golfing buddies tried to help me, I’ve never been able to drop my arms at address, because at impact the club head always seemed to be farther away from my body-scary close to the hosel. That fear, which haunted my swing thoughts, always affected the accuracy and power of my golf swing. What I didn’t know-until this video-were the other components of Moe’s golf swing-which I will now take to the driving range. Thank you for breaking it down and putting it out there. I am now a new subscriber.

[@dahcargo]

This is excellent information. I'm not a pro, but I understand the game of golf better than most. I sought the most consistent way to make ball-divot contact, and arrived at this a year ago, notwithstanding Moe or Bryson's swing. I ended up with your "method" through testing ball contact alone, but it's RIGHT ON! Not that it matters, but I was a 5 handicap 30 years ago. I wish I had been as interested in golf at that time, as I am today. I'm much more "Ulnar" in my setup, and it's a blessing. I'm 67 and can still hit the ball about 300 yards. Thank you, sir. PS, I love your fascination with Moe as a human being, he was so interesting, and as "real" as a person can get, and greatly misunderstood outside of golf.

[@culturalrelevance]

I just turned 55 and I have a bad back and a reconstructed knee. I have been ready to give up golf because it is so hard on my knee and back, and I just couldn't hit my irons any more. I started converting my swing to the single plane and it has taken so much stress and movement out of my swing that it is fun again. Thanks for keeping Moe around for us.

[@TrentTriesGolf]

Is this why Bryson uses one Length clubs? Theory of being In the same positions and Distance from the ball every time no matter what club he’s using

[@pappaflammyboi5799]

Yes, he removes every variable he can to make his swing as repeatable and as intuitive as possible.

[@mikeg.5233]

I was off the golf course for 2 years due to surgery. Came back this year completely forgetting the Graves single plane swing and was all over the place. At the end of my season I remembered the Moe/Graves method and started to get good results. I was in Orlando in 2005 taking lessons which gave me a new outlook on golf. Now this next season I'm back to be swinging like Todd and Moe. TNX. 👏👏👏

[@Slappy-Golf]

I'm a feel player and by adding single plane fundamentals in my set up, I find that I'm more consistent and hitting the ball straight. The combo of being a feel player with the correct fundamentals is working great.

[@mikehoffman3142]

I bought one of your videos and the swing trainer. I've been hooking for years. I went out last night using your method and tried it basically on drives. Drive 1 - Straight Smash w/good height Drive 2 - awful and slice Drive 3 - Straight, but low Drive 4 - awful and slice Drive 5 - slice, but in play Drive 6 - Straight, but low After that concentrated on not rolling my left forearm on the backswing and keeping the club on plane. Drive 7 - Straight Smash w/good height Drive 8 -Straight Smash w/good height Drive 9 - Straight Smash w/good height Then it got dark and had to go in. Most fun I had driving in a long time. Stick with it. It works! Easy power! Great feel. I think I got "The Feeling of Greatness," on the last three drives.

[@brentireland9866]

Great video. I first met Moe at the Earl Grey course in Calgary, Alberta by a mutual friend. I also got to play a couple practice round with him, and he let me tape him a bit practicing. Your channel explains the things you can take from Moe's swing better than any other. Keep up the great work!

[@deesquare08]

Absolutely spot on. This is the best explanation i have ever heard. Great Job!

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Glad it was helpful!

[@johnnyhornbeck28]

You’re the best Todd!!! I think when your coaching career is over, you will have done more to help people in the sport of golf than any other teacher.

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Hope so! Thanks..

[@calvinshields7565]

Mr graves is the 🐐🐐

[@rubenrodriguez7707]

I had to stop playing golf due to cancer, I had 5 opertains in 2017 but I'm okay and resuming my love for golf. I was hitting before stopping anywhere from low 80's to 90's. Of course inconsistent but playing was still fun. Pitching and chipping was the biggest weakness, old school handle ahead of ball, watching endless hours of youtube have corrected my mistakes. I haven't had time to thank you for teaching me Moe's feeling of greatness. I bought your book and seen every video, just can't log in at work to tell you. I could not hit my irons upon rehab at all! I felt like you before Moe, extremely frustrated. Like Moe said you need to put in a lot of hard work. Two things that you don't address much and I find extremely important for this swing is to have the hosel pointing at the ball. Your over head video was your best! The second point is the feet position depending on the club. I know you have your guide but I notice You and Moe sometimes with a driver your feet are straight and sometimes I notice Moe in a down the line view with his back foot in a slight draw, about half a shoe length. In one of your videos you state this. I found this extremely helpful, maybe more rotation is produced in my swing? I would love to see an over head view of address for the driver and the irons. Also how far back of the ball at address for the lower irons? How open are your feet or not. BTW I finally hit my irons ok and beat my brother with his artificial swing yesterday. Hit 44 on the back and can see the beauty of having a plan you can always return to. Thanks for forwarding Moe's gift to us hackers. Every time I have a long staight drive I think he is watching and smiling from above.

[@beckmanchilds756]

Glad to hear of your recovery and improvement. Keep it up!

[@artdecco3175]

Very good mec hanics for the swing and its working well for me. Im glad l saw your video thank you for the lesson my dear good man .

[@rjensen6368]

Very informative. I switch to this style of swing about a year ago. It has helped to drop my handicap. And also to put less stress on my back .

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Absolutely

[@TheFaafetai]

I naturally swing like this but I didn't know any better about the technicality and effectiveness and almost change because of the common golf swing influence. I had some great moment that I felt great but didn't get it down until now. I'll keep up with my natural swing setup and more with this help will bring better consistency in my game. Thank you so much for the video.

[@criticalhistory2023]

exactly the same here...just one plane felt more simple and the only bad shot i have is left...everyone tellin me i play too much blocked or mechanical.blabla..gotta try this now!!

[@Wrightbalance]

Todd: I sincerely enjoyed your comparison of Bryson and Moe. Articulate, simple and concise. Well Done...

[@josephedwards3356]

Todd can you do some videos with irons and wedges. I am using the single plane swing and am lowering my score with it. I'm not going back to the traditional swing.

[@3for5spotshooter]

And nothing ever hurts... A huge deal for golfers who love the sport and would like to play pain free golf... You're the best buddy!!!

[@roadhog4948]

I tried playing for a few years, but gave up because my body mechanics and golf just didn’t gel. I think it time to blow the dust off the clubs and try again. Great video. Thanks

[@JoeCothern-lv8zx]

Amazing content, best single plane swing coach on KZbin. Thank you brother for making golf fun again!

[@Micavill1]

🙏thank you..this video just answered SOOO many questions I had about my swing,grip & my motion .. I’m a subscriber Now..

[@bigpoppaproppy]

Started the year with real bad dequervains in my left thumb and wrist... what saved me from not playing is taking a strong grip and this lead arm position....now its almost painless and my game is better and longer. Love it!!!

[@abrahamspies7611]

I have never had 1 golf class. I recently started playing at least once every 2 weeks with some tips from friends. I really struggled with my driver. Yesterday I saw one of your videos, and decided to try it on the golf coarse today. I hit 300 yards straight as can be, time after time. This technique just made my golf SO MUCH MORE FUN! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!

[@Robk363]

I've been fascinated with Moe Norman and his story since first hearing about him. I'm definitely going to give the single plane swing a try.

[@GRIFF22]

Great thing about having this position with the left wrist, is that it's locked in and set. Also if you swing with your left hand only, you'll find it's almost impossible to do it with the left hand low , in a traditional starting position. Do a single arm swing with your left hand and your wrist will automatically pronate to manage the weight of the club, and then notice how perfectly 'on plane' your swing is. Lock the left wrist in for clubface control and keep the right hand light for generating power.

[@samosborne791]

Interesting - must try this

[@BloodySoup74]

I tell you what.. I started this about 2 weeks ago with my driver and I've been the most consistent with my hitting than years past. I had no idea where my ball was going back then and now I feel automatic. Started a little bit with my irons and thats coming around too. I had too much of a hit down which put me a little over the top. Now I feel more behind the ball and coming from the inside. That ulnar deviation does work wonders. Trust me. Golf is way more fun now.

[@sw2775]

Did you do any particular drills?

[@theintelligentinvestor79]

As a someone who has studies all methods - hogan 5 lessons etc this makes sense - my issue has always been the wrist position at impact....

[@xattack7452]

Same, my shoulder rotates too far

[@ihba37]

Todd this is brilliant. Loved everybit of this video piece. Thanks for sharing

[@Popeyem9]

This really helped me not think i was a maniac lining the club far from the ball and stretching my wrist like that, i was trying to look all over to see if anyone else was doing it

[@carlmack2188]

Thanks for taking your time. Been doing this for a while after putting in the practice. My games pretty consistent and i’m no longer chasing my ball all over place. My stroke range is dependent on my putter, especially lag putting. Thanks again.

[@dougcox3094]

After 60 yrs. Playing golf I am hitting the ball constantly straight every time. This swing really makes a difference. Try it.

[@LouisA.Lazarus]

Great video. Moe Norman was one in a million. I think most PGA pros are familiar with Moe but as is plain to see, they've opted for the "conventional" swing. It doesn't mean they are right or wrong. It just means they play golf for a living and think their chances are better with the two-plane method. Bryson is awesome. He does things his way and is arguably the most analytical golfer out there today. Everything he does is with the intent of increasing hid odds of hitting good shots...and hitting them far. It always comes down to Ford or Chevy, rotary or piston and even red or blue. Everybody should try this method and if it works for them, go with it. When all is said and done, golf is nothing but a stick, a ball and hand eye coordination and who can get that stupid little ball into the hole in the fewest number of strokes.

[@andrescerdajullian1400]

Excellent, I found this out by myself and here you have explanation. Thanks a lot!! Great thing for Golf!!

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Glad it helped!

[@andrescerdajullian1400]

@@ToddGravesGolf Thanks Todd, I just received a copy of your book! I am trying to help my son (21 years old) handicap 4 to improve his swing. He use to compite here in Peru but we never got him in the correct technique I think. Maybe this time might work, He his commited to apply the changes...

[@ToddGravesGolf]

@@andrescerdajullian1400 Hello Andres. I work with a great 21 year old player named Roberto Lebrija. He has improved greatly with the Single Plane Swing. Feel free to email me at [e-mail] to discuss you son if you would like my help. Thanks.

[@andrescerdajullian1400]

@@ToddGravesGolf Thank you very much Todd, good to know you work with young adults also (very hard to fix I suppose ), just sent you an email.

[@FBRR2]

I went to the single plane method after watching your channel last year. My golf game and fairways hit in regulation improved dramatically!! Thanks you

[@brandonbuss3224]

Are you playing same length irons or conventional lengths? Thanks

[@FBRR2]

@@brandonbuss3224 I'm playing modified length, 7 thru 4 slightly longer on each club, lower clubs all standard length not the longer "same length":, So my longer irons are not all the same but not the "standard" graduated length. And shorter irons are standard (they get shorter as they go more loft).

[@brandonbuss3224]

@@FBRR2 thanks for sharing your set up! I think I’m gonna roll with the standard lengths for a season and go from there on adjustments once I get the fundamentals down pat on this “new” style.

[@markbrookes6915]

Practising this yesterday in Perth Australia struggled for a life time with driver not anymore last January my handicap was 2 in 2019 up to 5 , put the driver back in the bag yesterday feel heaps of confidence since finding your methods of this swing ,I've always believed in the 1 piece take away people talked me out of by having lessons with certain coaches , I'm going back to my old swing one piece take away again .

[@erwinwever4283]

Yehhhhh......super explanation coach👍🏌️‍♂️ I struggle with my left arm on the driver for more than 15 years. Motor cycle accident ruins my left knee and find difficulties with the driver. Now out of the bleu I tried to work with the straight left arm and eliminate the left retracted arm... and you know what? It works! Now I can hit my drive where I want,draw or fade......no problem at all. Thanks for the clear explanation

[@SR-co9jj]

Tried this with my driver for the first time yesterday and instantly began hitting the longest drives of my career. Amazing, thanks.

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Great to hear!

[@bertpotter97]

Thanks Todd I have been watching these videos for about a month now. My ball striking is improving. The positions feel more natural to me. I'm working to understand all of the bio mechanics stuff .

[@larrymasterspowerbuildingc4477]

Thanks, Mr. Graves. Brilliant. Last summer I began to switch over and scores lowered. I'm back again this summer having just played about 10 rounds so far, and I'm using more of a single plane now and it comes alive for me when I keep my feet planted. I just hammer the ball straight as an arrow hitting way more greens and fairways. The score has consistently come down. I'm not rushing anything. takes time to rebuild but I just shot an 81 yesterday, the lowest score ever.

[@johnserrano8683]

😀😀

[@AvidEnduro]

What a great video; short, concise, informative. Keep up the good work!! Also, I personally believe Hogan used many of the same mechanics to his swing on a much smaller scale. Restriction= control

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Thank you!

[@chezchezchezchez]

Todd Graves did hogan do that?

[@tyfowler5581]

I've played golf for 40 years and never have heard this important distinction. This is major for me. Thank you so much...Maybe now, I will be able to break par for an entire 18 hole round and get in the 60's.

[@michaeljarvis6628]

another great video. It really appeals to my need to understand the logic behind Moe's swing. So well explained :)

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Thanks.

[@biancafriedman1957]

I started golf 3 years ago and this was my natural swing . There was absolutely nothing wrong with it, I then went to lessons to improve on the game even further and all the coaches pushed me for weeks to try and go to that traditional swing - I couldn’t do it and it completely messed up my natural swing. I then found a coach who knew about this type of swing and he taught me how to use it too my advantage and my game has never been better. To this day, other golfers and people at pro shops attempt to correct my swing and how I address the ball and every time I try what they tell me my game and ball strike goes to shit. Lesson: every golfer is different and sometimes your most natural swing is the one that works best for you even if it isn’t the most conventional. Don’t doubt your game just because one guys says you don’t hit like he does.

[@johnserrano8683]

Roger that!

[@nomadvehr827]

Been watching your videos. So far with the putting it's been working wonders. Still figuring out the distance control part but the line is dead straight. As for the irons swing I'm heading out to the range today to test it out.

[@thegrudge]

Great video. I'm am still pretty new to the game (about 8 months in) and this was especially interesting to me because when I first started plauing, I naturally had a single plain swing...didn't know it then but after watching this video, now I know. Thanks to my all my personal KZbin instructors and other sources around the web, I started trying to learning the two plain swing. Funny thing is I felt more accurate with my driver with the single plain despite being even less experienced and now I have been struggling with the driver consistency ever since the change. I just thought I wasn't swinging the proper way but now I see that you can be successful with it. I'll think I'm going to give it a go again. Go with my natural swing tendency.

[@anthonyr6286]

I saw Bryson's video on this and have been playing around with the driver....wow! Drastic improvements for being a beginner. I'm not sure how to apply it yet to the irons

[@seek3n]

thank you so much for this video. after going around looking for it for years. now just need to find one for iron lol

[@jamesgander7337]

I like this video and makes it simple about the sps

[@jweaver0101]

Please make a video and talk about where Club head speed comes from and how to increase it.

[@beedee9534]

I bought the Moe Book about oh 30 years ago i used it i loved it and a scratch player played in our group and change me you'll be a better player well it was good for many years seen Bryson went back to it i hit long again im 74 the trick is finding the right clubs especially the driver i went thru dozens till i found it

[@thomasfraser9072]

The way Bryson played the Masters yesterday; perhaps you should be his coach.

[@geemac979]

IMHO - Bryson needs to refocus and stop playing the blame game. He's won a Major and other tour events, so why not forget the negatives by revisiting, and adapting the winning components from past tournaments? KISS = Keep It Simple Stupid - this acronym should help Bryson...why try to fix what's not broken?

[@dannyrand1733]

Moe once said the golf swing was "Sensation of positions". I've carried that with me for years and it's worked wonders for me. Moe's philosophy on the golf swing was second to none!

[@chachifeere]

hogan did this too in his back swing he pronated his left elbow. either you can preset it at setup or do it in the way back

[@blacklionengineer3274]

Todd Thanks for another great video. I want to attest to the single plane swing and its abilities. First off I have broken C 3, 4, & 5 as well as L4. I am sure you understand what that means when it comes to pain from swinging a normal swing. When I swung the normal swing I would not even be able to complete 9 holes with out extreme pain in my spine.Also I have a torn bicep as well as damaged rotator cuff which would lead to shoulder and arm pain from swinging the normal swing. I wont even mention what kind of hadicap it left me with or how I played as Moe calls it Army Golf. I then began watching your videos here and practicing the single plane swing. I also began to watch Bryson and learning about single length clubs. As soon as they opened up the courses here in Northern Michigan I went out on a course I have never played before and played 2 rounds of 18. My first round was +5 my second round was +3 not to mention I can daily hit over 100 shots in practice as well as 100+ putts and all with NO PAIN. I can not thank you enough for all your work in bringing the single plane swing to light. I believe if more people actually put the time into learning the single plane swing they would enjoy golf more and have far better scores at the end of their rounds. Also maybe you could touch on Moe's comment about SLINGING the ball to a DEFINED TARGET as that comment along with skipping a stone really put into my mind what a golf swing really is all about and why the tilt is also in the single plane swing. All the best to you and yours.

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Great Story and I agree with you regarding people taking the time to understand and learn the Single Plane Swing. Thanks!

[@danjohnson8452]

Used to try and copy Moe, but the stance was too wide, distance from ball too far for me, keeping the trail foot down was very unnatural and I lost distance so I moved on to another coach who teaches very similar to what Bryson does. The results have been stunning. I doubt Moe’s swing works for many people, but Bryson’s is SO much easier as long as you do not get caught up in every detail of what he does. Except of the point of the left arm position there is almost no similarity to the two swings.

[@Strltr618]

Whichcoachdidyoumoveonto?

[@rudyvanautreve3222]

Well explained... thanks

[@limitnl]

Great stuff. Going to try for sure!

[@Steadfast_Training]

I literally just figured this out on the range today never heard or seen any videos on it so it’s pretty wild this popped up

[@vincevita6872]

Todd... the key to me yesterday was what u call ulnar deviation... i was chunking every other shot while playing....[ i have toyed with single plane before ] i finally raised my wrist at address..[ almost accidentally ] . and immediately started to strike the ball so much better... the weak before 110... yesterday 95...now all i have to do is learn to keep my lead heal down...lol thank you for this video...

[@ranchopatriot]

Here's a day #1 progress report. I've watched a bunch of you vids on the Moe Nelson single-plane style. Went to the range today. Hit a large bucket of balls using only a 5-iron. Every shot was straight except 3. Sure I was thick or thin on contact much of the time but the point is the ball went toward the target. Hope is wasn't a fluke. To be continued...

[@KawmLusMekas]

Thank you so much for this video. It makes so much sense!

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Glad it was helpful!

[@lillybloom1590]

Simplify! Simplify! Simplify! Square fundamentals from head position, body position, grip, stance. Square to square swing that builds power and crescendos at the ball. Be young and limber. And you're going to have the potential to play some really good golf from tee to green! It's an absolute! On the greens copy Jack Nicklaus' open stance, ball up front, head behind the ball, and make sure you hit up on the ball to get that great overhead spin that helps run the ball in the hole. Study. Prepare. Practice. Execute. You can't miss!

[@dougpittman5714]

Just bought your book. Cannot wait to get studying :)!

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Great Doug. Focus heavily on the address position first. Makes the rest so much easier.

[@dougpittman5714]

@@ToddGravesGolf Thank You!

[@kelguy2002]

🙌Todd🙌 Thank you So Much ..For Including Bryson ‘s Name in the video it contributes Such Credibility To Your Life’s Work - In A Time Of Division 🤔Single Plane Is Just “”THAT”” ... Doesn’t Matter Who does It 💪🏼⛳️ COMES From STRONG Fundamentals ..Your The Best ☮️& ❤️& 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼⛳️

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Thanks.

[@zero2herogolf]

@Todd - Excellent instruction as always!

[@townie6644]

I think it will help if your mobility isn't great as in older and having lack of consistent swing.

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Yes it does.

[@TheDantheman12121]

I just started playing golf and was actually doing a lot of these things. I thought to myself if i can eliminate as much movement as possible it should be more consistent.

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Natural Movement.

[@SukhdevSingh-bp7wi]

Same. Oddly, something similar works for putting. Eliminate the variables and simplify.

[@marc67marc]

Perfekt describt. Now I understand Moe Norman much better! 👍

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Thanks

[@beckmanchilds756]

Thank you! I was starting to swing this way and was straightening out my left arm and wrist to get an additional 30-60 yards and this helped explain it all to me. Secondly, I'm about eliminating variables too when it matters so I enjoyed hearing it. Going to the range now Man...when someone asks me who I swing like I'm adding Bryson to the list now hahaha (swing like, not play like)

[@davewilson8973]

I noticed Brysons weird swing but didnt think much about it. I cannot wait to try this on the course. Great vid 👍

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Thanks 👍

[@TigerMarine62]

You don't "use the ground" to gain clubhead speed. However, Bryson talks about pushing back with the lead leg, i.e., pushing down in the backswing and to the rear in the follow-through.

[@jamesgander7337]

I have the pocket coach is in my bag when I hit balls great ideas to have.Thanks Todd

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Great idea!

[@2simpleadjustments]

At the 5:21 mark you take the club to the inside and lose the WIDTH that keeps the wrists and club face square to the plane. This move voids the point you’re trying to make.

[@ToddGravesGolf]

You’re statement is so untrue. Your definition of width and going inside are not accurate.

[@tylerhartley8531]

So, Ive been struggling with the dreaded pull hook. Ive been watching a lot of Bryson the last year, and i noted this position as well. I tried it at the range last week, and i was able to swing as hard as i wanted on every club and hit it straight to a slight fade. I generally strike the ball well, and have a good swing. But this feels like its removing that sweeping hook miss from the equation. Time will tell

[@mrsimo7144]

Thank you for this.

[@paulgarcia2625]

Awesome,,thanks for sharing.

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Thanks for watching!

[@josdenhartog7385]

Thanks for the Explanation! It makes your book come alive!

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Thank you!

[@brockallstate]

Fire, I’ve played my whole life and played collegiate, I’m About to change my Swing to this

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Go for it. I can help.

[@alanrwelch]

great points-- will try-- see it to be more consistent to hit fairways

[@peterlund6495]

Fantastic video and content 👏👏👏

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Thanks.

[@geemac979]

Hey Todd. What you are explaining makes sense, and it's validity must irritate the heck out of ’mainstream’ or ’conventional’ methodology golf instructors.

[@chrissilkwood5439]

Great breakdown. I admit that I never liked Moe's swing, but seeing how you break it down, it's starting to make sense... especially with the "variables". One thing I noticed, is that at the address with the driver, the lie angle now appears more correct, matching the design of the club. I have a question though, is the hip restriction adding to the transfer of energy into the upper body and arms more effectively? Like slamming brakes on a car thereby adding energy and torque to the top of the vehicle?

[@gregoryrizzer3455]

Great Video..Question..>WHY then are so many people using two plane versus the single plane swing? I have yet to see anyone explain the actual drawbacks of using single plane swing? You'd think everyone would use it. I learned singe plane and lost my way but I'm back..I'm trying to figure out why think it's ok to create such a large angle with the wrists and forearms at addess.

[@Skye_the_toller]

this theory is based on 2 players... the current best ball strikers (Rory, Shuffler, Scheffely, etc) don't use this motion... and as Bryson used very customized clubs and shaft length... interesting... but surely not for everybody. thanks anyway..

[@LFGM24]

It makes so much sense especially with the longer clubs, but how do you use this approach on 8,9,PW, and wedges ? Thanks

[@timbroughton7534]

I could definitely be wrong but I think that is why Bryson uses the one length clubs

[@steveeyler]

One thing I haven't heard mentioned is that Bryson appears to be using a "Count Yogi" style of maintaining the angle between the arms and the club at address throughout the swing. He doesn't use the so called leverage angle where the wrist flexes when approaching the top of the swing. That's a non factor for him and one more reason why he's accurate. I don't know if this is true or not but read where the Atom Golf guy mentioned on his channel that he knew both Moe and Yogi and Moe said Yogi was better than he was. Whether it's true or not I have no idea so take that for what it's worth.

[@jimhart7242]

OMG, hadn't thought of Count Yogi in almost 40 years. Had his book. Quite a stylish guy.

[@dococh62]

Count Yogi's swing is superior to Moe Norman. Mainly because of the swings simplicity. Easy power and accuracy. Count yogi's swing was based on a dragging motion in the back swing and a left wrist bend after impact

[@keithlucero6207]

Super cool golf tip thank you

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Any time!

[@1516Taylor]

Bryson's right foot is not kept flat at and thru impact nor is his left knee kept flexed at impact. His left leg stiffens allowing him to get a full hip turn thru impact. The hips cannot open as easily with a flexed left knee. Moe was long but Bryson's 2 mechanical difference would have increased Moe's carry & distance. Moe's accuracy is from less variables which required less compensations, however Bryson developed the skill to incorporate his 2 differences into substantial clubhead and ball speed. Bryson is now working on a longer shaft on his Driver to gain another 10 to 20mph ball speed!!

[@daleinnis3161]

Todd, former student of yours here. What I always felt is that this method sacrificed distance. What is becoming abundantly clear with Bryson is the distance. What is he doing in additions to the similar bio mechanics that is allowing him to launch it.? Correct me if I am wrong on the distance I am stating for me not for your teaching.

[@ToddGravesGolf]

There is nothing biomechanically in the Single Plane Swing of Moe that would cause a loss of distance. What I have seen, in many cases, is that too many people interpret the Single Plane swing as a Lateral movement and not a rotational one. They slide instead of turn. Bryson is proving that the Single Plane swing is powerful and accurate.

[@daleinnis3161]

@@ToddGravesGolf I am guilty as charged. I think I focused far too much on the lateral move. I always enjoy watching your clips. I truly respect how you represent Moe.

[@humorss]

count 1 back swing , 2 impact. the down swing is the exact reverse of the back swing, same speed even.

[@joecalvacca3195]

Is it the same set up when u pitch the golf ball?

[@richfromboston]

Thanks. the last few months my irons were way off, was hitting them short and if i tried to hit it harder i was all over the place. I had 2 rounds of 88 and 90 and i hit ZERO greens. From the last few videos i'm fixinf my irons, shot 83 yesterday hit 9 greens, even though i hit 4 drives way left. THIS video should correct that. I'll see tomorrow. I need to order some of your training aids, so i won't have to put so much thought everytime i set up. It will become a habit. Thanks Todd

[@ToddGravesGolf]

The great thing about getting this right is that now I can swing harder and still square the face. I like being able to swing hard on the golf course.

[@jamesfourseven8787]

All these years trying to compress my Iron shots and here we have Bryson Dechambeau not compressing his irons at all and he is number one in the world.

[@mrshiney2]

Yeah he just hit a 9 iron today 223 down wind at the PGA

[@bernardsamson2365]

Todd you have a good message. Maybe with some forethought and planning you could convey it more concisely and effectively. Just a suggestion.

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Always a work in progress. Thanks.

[@MarkSmithhhh]

I do this with my wedges works great, I can't get the feel with driver and irons but I hit those quite well never been an issue....bit doing this for wedges revolutionized my short game

[@leandromerbilhaa6056]

Buenísimo. Muy lógico el swing.

[@bobt5778]

At 1:41, like all great players, they are slotted and ready to fire. And Moe was no spring chicken in this video! Another great video Todd!

[@ToddGravesGolf]

Thanks.

[@Sueezedtight]

That lead knee is so important and so hard to achieve at impact when you are fighting 50 years of conventional training. Bryson "stands-up" to add extra oomph but he is a pro and spends his days practicing to his own specific model swing. Using Moe's (Todd's) simple and easy (but technically more bio-mechanically efficient) swing model gives a better chance of ball-striking success to dedicated but not professional golfers (ME !). After 3 weeks of working on it, that knee is a problem but when I get it right, what a feeling! The ball flies far, straight and high and that is worth all the effort. Thanks Todd.

[@ToddGravesGolf]

You're Welcome.