TOHONO O'ODHAM TRIBE NATIVE AMERICAN INDIANS TUCSON, ARIZONA U.S. GOVERNMENT FILM 88304

[@LAVirgo67]

My family lives both in Southern Arizona and Northern Sonora. I still remember the old ways in spending time in Sonora. I'm trying to reconnect with my ancestral ways.

[@CatDaddySteve]

Do You have a seperate language from the larger more well known tribes in Your area ???

[@Tark75ifty]

Coming from France to visit the USA in 1989, I was curious to know your nation and to visit your reservation. At that time, the Native Americans were going through serious drug and alcohol problems that revolted me. I had met a young member of the reservation named Laurence who explained to me your rich history and ancestral customs. 35 years later, I have always remembered the warm welcome and kindness of your people. May your nation live free and happy forever. ❤🖐

[@HouseOfMoths]

Tucson is a Holy land

[@cacatr4495]

The narrator says there are no rivers or streams in the desert, but that was not true. There was the Santa Cruz River and the Rillito River that used to run year round. So too, the narrator says that the cactus must store up its water from short, heavy rains in the summer. Yet, the historic weather pattern consisted of three rainy seasons per year, the largest was the summer monsoon, but there was also a week's rain daily in December just before Christmas, and Spring showers of about two weeks daily in March. From this historic rain cycle, the Sonoran desert was green all year long. I know, I'm a Tucsonan born and bred, a lifelong Arizonan that knows our history and weather patterns. I would imagine there will be other errors presented in this film; that's unfortunate.

[@michaelhurtado4400]

Sorry I am confused, Sonoran Desert was green all year long? Why is it a desert?

[@MariaPerez-rd4wi]

I was told my grandmother was Papago but can’t find any info.

[@ipomoeaalba936]

You know this is straight hijack

[@Platinum3216]

@@michaelhurtado4400it’s not exactly a desert it’s kinda a degraded ecosystem from cattle farming

[@gracequalls9770]

Yeah, notice the white teacher showing the children a us navy picture book. Casual removal of history like it was a good thing

[@alexandraqueen2156]

Basically they brought cows and horses that immediately trashed the area, trampled over everything, shat in the water, absolutely destroying the land

[@Whorlzz]

I am tohono odtham,i read alot of books and study my grandparents past, as far as origin we were actually not tohono odtham, and another tribe thought to be aztecs came from mexico and we breeded creating the modern tohono odtham people,however you could try to find the tribe but they were expected to have died off by possible extinction of colonizers, anyway we thrived for a while as tohono odtham, and when the spainyards came over they made the first major church to convert natives to catholism ,this church area which is now san xavier in Tucson arizona,so if you really think about it tucson originiated from a spanish catholic church, boarding schools didnt really come into play only because we tohono odtham and other papago tribes had no problems,However in text i remember it saying the ideal of savages ,or native enemeis or nemesis to spainyards only came to play when word across americas spread of natives rebellion giving natives a bad reputation,..In arizona as far as native wars go, we had no problems besides the pima revolt of 1751, but please Remember that how the englishmen or the british converted native Americans,is the same thing the Spainyards did , so when boarding schools started up spanish became part of local arizonan language not to mention the wild west times,but its actually proven if you read the book of the tohono odtham language, and pima language its very different, the tohono odtham alphabet includes more letters than the pima alphabet because Spanish letters have been altered into tohono odtham language,so if you also think about tribe differences the akemiel odtham is more naturally and more toward how the language is suppose to be, while the other odtham tribes languages and alphabet was altered , such as the sand tribe,and desert tribe, btw i didn't mention the tohono odtham is 1 tribe the akimiel odtham which is the river people,and the 3rd i dont know how to say but is the sand people, which are the ones that live practically on the mexico border, i have a mexican friend and i remember saying the word coyote in my language but I remember he said he thought i was. Cursing at him in spanish , i think its pretty cool we share some spanish letters but also shows in plain sight of how colonization of many years changed how modern generation is now,the white cowboys Columbus and the calavary army didn't show up till the wild west times of The late 1700's and early 1800's so most part back in the day it was probably more barren than civilized despite spanish colonization.

[@CatDaddySteve]

Papago - Sand People

[@artistirmafeliciarodriguez7752]

My Grandmother was born on the Rez. Would like to find my missing family

[@alliandrablack7751]

That can't be too hard to find out. I'm half Tohono O'odham myself, and I can at the very least trace my great grandmother's ancestry.

[@artistirmafeliciarodriguez7752]

@@alliandrablack7751 That is awesome, I want to fly down and visit the Rez and look up her information and take my mom. Hopefully soon.

[@harliiquinnstarlight]

I think though it could be kind of tricky because my uncle got me the names of my great great grandparents from my mother's side of the family and my grandmother had two grandfathers with the last name of Pina

[@CatDaddySteve]

At 4:30 min mark You see the pointed small mountain in the background. In the 2024 videos on the Sidetrack Adventure KZbin channel about the Wickenburge Massacre You can see the same pointed mountain in the modern background

[@stacylaetsch3672]

Hi - could you please note the date when this was filmed?

[@gracequalls9770]

Yeah it was before the 80s because the tribe changed their name to tohono o'odham instead of papago, tried to research but I think I'll have to go to their cultural museum to find anything valuable

[@foxmulder7616]

Sounds like 50s or earlier for sure. But it's in color so I'd say early 60s?

[@cacatr4495]

Check the copyright date that is often found in the title sequence in the beginning of the film, or at the end. It's been a while since I've seen this film, but going off memory of how the film was made, I would guess it was made in the 1940s or '50s at the latest. *_Another commenter said 1941._*

[@bradhes1289]

Desert Diamond Casino!

[@stevehastings8336]

My father was raised in the northern reaches of the res.

[@nik78757]

Steve Hastings which res?

[@stevehastings8336]

He referred to it as the Pima Res (?). On Google Maps it’s now known as the Gila River Indian Community. Up near Blackwater. Do you know the area?

[@harliiquinnstarlight]

@@stevehastings8336 my Great grandfather was born in Tucson Arizona before it was made a state, and his father was born in Senora Mexico.

[@harliiquinnstarlight]

@@stevehastings8336 Pima are the Akimel O'odham/River people, and Papagos are the Tohono O'odham/Desert people.

[@stevehastings8336]

1941

[@mariogastelum1498]

This narrator repeatedly calls the people. "indians". The narrator should use a proper word.

[@WillNogi631]

No mames. Si sabes que este video es de hace como 60 años. O más. Además no tiene nada de malo usar indio. Lo hemos adoptado. No seas crystal. No te quiebres tan fácil. Nosotros somos pápagos. Nosotros mismos decimos indios. Y si. Sabemos que técnicamente no lo somos porque no somos de la India. Pero es lo que es y ya.

[@Latchiamnk]

This documentary was made in the 50s🤷🏻‍♀️

[@ruger1516]

These are not the original people. Offsprings of the conquistadors, which are modern day so-called Mexican. The original people had curly fro-type hair. Propaganda at it's finest. The truth has vanished, hopefully one day it will be resurrected.

[@ruger1516]

@My Nameis you know what Olmec (Mexican) look like. LMAO. The lies will never be the truth. I'm autotchounous to America.

[@ruger1516]

@Eagle Flies I'm confused because you say so. GTFOH, maybe you rode the magical slave ships. I know who am with proof, your teacher told you who you are. Offsprings of colonizing immigrants may fit you well. The truth won't change because you believe a lie. You don't want to know because it's painful go to the library of Congress. Look at the real Indians, not the fake euro-indians. You and them are trespassing on my ancestors land.

[@ruger1516]

@Eagle Flies go look at old tobacco ads from the 1800's and tell me what you see. You are a fake.

[@sonia83vegas]

My grandfather was born on the rez . I always wondered where we got the fro type hair lol so if this true thank you

[@ruger1516]

@@sonia83vegas if you research the etymology of the word slave you will begin to understand. Cognitive dissonance is prevalent in America. America by early Europeans pilgrims was always describe as the land of Negros. The world's other lands people know this. They still to this day pray to so-called black deities. Never be ashame of your curly hair you have the blood of the original people in you. Don't worry about the outside noise. The imposter are being exposed.