The Keyboard that Speed Players Tried to Hide... | Wooting 60HE review

[@tokaku]

EDIT: I trimmed out the part of the video that talked about north facing switches. It was my complete mistake not to have tried installing the switches the other way (what a dumb move on my part, especially knowing that from how the hall effect switches look, it could be rotated in any direction). Sorry about the mistake!

[@solicoli]

DEFORESTATION

[@solicoli]

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[@GINOSAURUS999]

@@solicoli that's cutting down trees without replanting them

[@UmCaraNormalnumPlanetanormal]

@@solicoli True

[@rikpoke]

@@solicoli ok

[@Wooting]

Thanks a lot for spending your time on a review! You absolutely did it justice by additional lubing it and showing the internals. To help answer some questions: 1. Each graphic on the PCBA under the key is actually from a founder that bought the signature edition when we launched the board. 2. 100 000 000 click lifespan because that's when the machine after months of non-stop pressing is like, well really like fuck me, why won't this just break? 3. You can 180 degree rotate the Lekker switch and install it south facing. Works all the same. Taking note of that transparent strap, that would indeed make it easier 🤩

[@qarz]

used to use your fortnite double movement program, worked really well

[@FishyRL.]

@@qarz fortnite battle pass

[@absurddive]

3 = Thanks to the magic of magnets. How do they work? No one f@#$ knows :D but they're awesome.

[@Jokypond]

nice

[@careless2429]

Will you eventually sell the switches and pcb seperately for stuff like case swaps etc?

[@Dahcreeper3]

This keyboard has easily been the best I've ever used for catch the beat personally. Just feels way snappier and the overall control is much better, very much recommend.

[@tokaku]

OH RIGHT. it's good for catch because you stop moving faster!

[@xgr8648]

My biggest problem with my current keyboard and my laptop keyboard is that It will stall for 1/4 of a second and it will end runs

[@Dahcreeper3]

@@tokaku Yes! A lot of higher level catch is being able to precisely stop on some patterns along with being able to land on important transitions, so rapid trigger has been super helpful for that kind of thing, especially on dt.

[@cauldy7044]

@@Dahcreeper3 mine will arrive in early January and i’m way too hyped cus i keep hearing only good things about this kb

[@ScrumpTCG]

steel series apex pro is better

[@SantaBunny]

Electrical engineer here. The reason they have a lot of Vias is because on a four layer board one of your inner layers is the ground plane, and then you usually put a ground plane on top after routing all the wires. You place as many Vias as possible to connect the two ground planes such that you have a really good connection for current to flow and for good capacitance. TLDR lots of Vias = good electrical engineer

[@jeroenlangelaan2022]

Yeah, this 100%. There are very long horizontal and vertical traces on the board, so you really need to keep the return path short. On a side note, outside of component density, four layer is much better for EMI certification. We struggled a lot with that with two layer boards in the past.

[@kylerettig7498]

We call it stitching the layers where I learned PCB design, super important when you need to isolate components that are prone to noise like antennas and other communications components

[@syte_]

You can rotate the switches to make them south facing to get around the cherry profile issue :D

[@Anuki]

for those who don't know, you can only rotate the switch for this board since the post and hall effect sensor thing seems symmetrical. but on a traditional mech, the pcb itself would have to come with South-Facing led sockets. so don't go rotating your mx browns and being sad!

[@ege8240]

@@Anuki how could you switch them lol? open holes on the pcb or just twist them off

[@irvjam]

what does this mean

[@BigDBrian]

having analog inputs on a keyboard is awesome. I can see people using that for games like Trackmania, where traditionally keyboard has always had a disadvantage compared to controller because you can only full steer / tap steer as opposed to smoothly steering.

[@flummi6966]

Yep, and the best feature is you can trash talk your opponents in chat while racing.

[@devon-crain]

tokaku, your shot composition, narrative arc, versatility in considering multiple perspectives, and general quality and pacing have notably improved with every video I have watched over the last couple years. Really great job with this review. It is a delight to watch your content

[@JadeZen520]

I think most people would think that the swap between this from a normal mechanical keyboard is easy, but the learning curve is actually kind of gotti for those very used to conventional switches. Definitely an insane tool when mastered.

[@ermamu]

Okay, this just might be the the nicest sounding keyboard I've ever heard. It's too bad I'm not in the market for a new keeb...

[@batmanh8899]

Nicest prebuilt stock?

[@bencenagy5459]

9:25 Tokaku has a good taste in gaming Edit:les goooooooooo got a heart

[@9cirno_]

what game is that?

[@birgerz360]

​@@9cirno_ Monster Hunter

[@testhekid]

ikrrr i had the same thought

[@lebro4401]

@@9cirno_ Monster Hunter World

[@CyberDragonis]

a rookie mistake, rip heart edit: He got back the heart pog

[@nyororomeowelas1225]

In my experience, I used to use a Cherry Silver K70 and I found that my accuracy on Osu was better with the consistent actuation point, it will take me a long time to learn this Wooting HE keyboard and I will probably need to be more "on it" to hit very good accuracy. I have never been all that good at Osu though so I'm positive there are other players that could preach to this board's features in a few years once they've grown accustomed to it. For CSGO and Valorant though, CRACKED. Absolutely a game changer to be able to stop your inputs faster when rounding corners and stopping to shoot. There was next to no learning period with these games, pretty much just an instant advantage.

[@elisosu]

your voice is very relaxing to listen to and you sound so professional in your videos. keep it the amazing work!! great video as always!

[@Cherrza]

I HAVE THIS AND OMG ITS AMAZING!!!!! I bought it after deep searching for good rhythm game keyboards. Also you can change the actuation, theres 4 analog modes and i love it! Oh and modding/relubing it is a dream.

[@VVSPRINCE]

how long did you wait to receive it?

[@meowsarah_]

lmfao the people in the back at 6:40 killed me

[@testing_oscar]

i have so many questions

[@Jono997]

"If I stay perfectly still, maybe they won't notice me."

[@sharkgamer47]

I think it's her sister lmao Also, she does a lot of cosplays on her Instagram and it's hella good

[@wuller8175]

Holyyy... This is one good keyboard for the money. I personally love the idea of hall effect sensors. Might buy this.

[@c-valueenigma4977]

personally as an owner of a wooting, the wooting made me stop using my custom made keyboard. I even traded from tactile to clicky switches since that custom is only for typing now.

[@wuller8175]

@@c-valueenigma4977 damn. You're getting me close to buying one fr now

[@Lanurus]

@@c-valueenigma4977 whats the custom specs?

[@MargootMC]

I have it. Preordered it like 6 months ago. Really high quality but I think having it made me realize I prefer my old logitech 65% keyboard for the arrow keys and F1-12 buttons at the top

[@neonoir__]

Using mod tap to make arrow keys out of the cluster in the bottom right corner was really useful for me, haven't missed mine since. F keys are a shame and kind of annoying with function layers but worth for having esc be closer imo

[@Sequoyas]

there is an 100% version that they sell

[@MargootMC]

@@Sequoyas that's too much. I think 65% is optimim for gaming cuz it has what you want and its compact. Idk anyone who uses the num pad and stuff. If you are working a desk job the 100% version would be sick

[@Agent_Alpha_SLV]

logitech keyboards have been a joke for so long lmao, last row layout makes them so fkin hard to replace keycaps, and their keycap is so shit as well so you're just stuck with a keyboard which looks like it have been through the WW2 even tho you've only used it for 4 months. you made a good choice switch to the 60HE, i doubt you will ever wanna go back to your logitech

[@MargootMC]

@@Agent_Alpha_SLV I probably wont go back cuz of how much money I spent on my wooting but my logitech keyboard worked great and stood the test of time. Definitely a solid backup

[@syzzii]

i think for getting used to rapid trigger, enabling the "continuous mode" advanced rapid trigger setting and then choosing a rapid trigger sensitivity equal to your actuation point can help. if you do this, you can make it so that the distance you have to press down the key is always the same, e.g. if you set your actuation point to 0.8mm and your rapid trigger (downstroke) sensitivity to 0.8mm as well. in contrast, if you had for example 0.4mm rapid trigger sensitivity but 1mm actuation point then you would have to press the key down 1mm the first time but 0.4mm for subsequent presses until you lift the key all the way up, which might be unintuitive. the continuous mode also helps here, for reasons that are hard to explain in a youtube comment.

[@Bamt]

I love you so much. I finally found a review of this keyboard in a osu/mania point of view🙏

[@pdb6157]

If a company has not picked this girl up as a key board engineering director they need to lol she has got this subject figured out and has found her niche in life I’m beyond impressed at this review and this product

[@Quiel245]

Tokaku reviews are great as always! Super fun to watch even though there is no chance of me even toching one of those Lol, anyway really thanks for the content!

[@tamegaming1768]

3:53 I literally can't believe how good that sounds for a just lubed gaming board. That's INSANE. I might pick one up and I've got a Vega and Mode65

[@drsteee]

Do you like your mode or Vega more? :)

[@rudj_]

I can vouch that the 50g springs help a lot in terms of stamina

[@bobcoco6047]

I'm just realizing she's as great as she is while having only 1 eye, a bit like the captain in Bleach who had to use that strap on his eye to hold his power ; she has to limit her awesomeness to fit in the screen & not bother us, how awesome, glad I noticed it!

[@testhekid]

this keyboard looks and sounds amazing, like woah! this is like the perfect keyboard even if it's actually miles away from that

[@3htthexy]

This was a pretty good informative video, like really good analysis and conclusion of the rapid key feature

[@SpudMackenzie]

Dat video production on the typing speed sections. Hot damn.

[@SpamLRBLX]

I really want this but it’s hella expensive

[@tokaku]

very pricey but the experience having it felt like it did match the price pretty well, especially knowing what's inside of it and all that...

[@rumham9911]

Its really not when you look at the competition, you'll find plenty of non-analog boards costing the same or more.

[@2EpicGaming]

Nah

[@sawgiie]

Just steal it

[@SpamLRBLX]

@@tokaku I see.

[@zepel6514]

Thats a really high quality video. Thank you! :)

[@djillusii7333]

1:31 “don’t waste your time on me you’re already a voice inside my head” rhythm

[@SgtRamen69]

Loved this review. You didn't just talk about feel, looks and sound like I've seen in other reviews, but went pretty deep into the technical side as well and made educated guesses of who this might be for and what advantages/disadvantages it (might) have. I personally used cheap bluetooth keyboards from Logitech for a long time (which are suprisingly decent imo lol), but now that I got into rhythm games I was looking for an endgame keyboard and this one just looks too interesting to miss out on. I'm sure that once you master it it's gonna be insanely good.

[@bri8975]

another slay from tokaku

[@Akurazi]

yes! ive been looking into the wooting 60HE so i can buy it and use it for mania :]

[@YMilkshake]

I've been out of the osu loop for a while but even I heard about this ordeal, thanks for looking into it ^^

[@onyx_0]

you can actually swap the direction of the switch to south facing to support cherry profile

[@danielangelov9730]

I haven't watched the full clip, but I have to say it. Thank you for the subtitles thought the entire.

[@sihamhamda47]

15:41 Finally I got the right explanation about side effects from rapid trigger on mania, that surprisingly makes the gameplay more difficult than I thought

[@EuantheFurry]

As a keyboard enthusiast, this keyboard blows me away. You get a keyboard that lasts longer than most keyboards, sounds good, has amazing customizability, stock, for $175. If I were to recommend any prebuilt keyboard to anybody, this would take the cake.

[@ChinchillaBONK]

Finally a Wooting review that has ACTUAL gameplay review. instead of those keyboard reviewers who review keyboards and don't show how good it can be

[@jcudejko]

I have a question about 3:48 "and fixing the stabilizers" I understand it's likely beyond the scope of this video, but I'm curious what we would need to do to fix the stabilizers? Do you have a video that covers those kind of details? Great editing and presentation!

[@eoc811]

holy shit i need this keyboard for highspeed mania maps

[@D31T7]

7:57 this is actually what UNIX layout looks like, CTRL and Capslock r switched. and i prefer this because my pinky finger dont have to bend entirely to use ctrl.

[@AzurefluxMusic]

That strap on the side looks like an Off-White belt, the drip tho

[@ronileviakangas7969]

thank you for the review, tom scott of keyboards

[@takaagry]

For the switch being north facing, iirc there's a video I watched said that you can just switch to south facing and can use cherry profile... I forget the video but I think it's from badseed tech modding this keyboard.

[@ts4858]

You are my favorite KZbinr. I have not watched one of your videos that is not incredibly well researched or incredibly entertaining

[@tokaku]

aw thank you! though this video had a mistake about the north facing switches (they're both facing). oops

[@ts4858]

@@tokaku haha it happens

[@brittanyschnell]

There's a keyboard by the German keyboard company Das Keyboard that can be used to indicate things like GPU, CPU and RAM status or receiving a gmail, status of a certain stock or even the change in the weather. I have the 5QS and I basically use it as a task manager.

[@BikePumpMusic]

Yeah but das keyboard uses the worst switches and the bells and whistles are the only saving grace

[@Invhytas]

If I would get a wooting (and I am strongly considering it) I would probably not play with rapid trigger in osu!, but I'd like to use an analog kb in trackmania and just have a solid kb with a good lifespan for osu! as well.

[@tiso5209]

A very nice alternative for this keyboard I think would be the Drunkdeer keyboards! They also have analog inputs and rapid trigger and have an 85% version!

[@LeastBeautifulBacon]

I actually knew about this keyboard a long time ago and it's still the best keyboard till now which is surprising! Anyways have a nice day! :)

[@kiam9941]

(15k std player) I invested in the keyboard because Wooting's way of approaching things as a company was so heartwaming. I pre-ordered the keyboard before the first batch came out so i was one of the firsts in the EU to get it. Honestly long-term there haven't been any OMG improvements because of the keyboard, it just helped with finger locking on omega hard stuff. I always singletapped pretty quickly and it helped but not by much (in actual gameplay where u cant really just make ur whole arm a single finger if u play stuff that has actual 180 or more bpm patterns). Pro-tip for sliders just find the rapid trigger sensitivity at which u don't randomly release it (for me its around 0.3mm). They literally told the community everything and asked for opinions too!! (there was a huge issue with lacking of voltage regulators and they told the community the possible price increase to get it out sooner by sourcing it somewhere else and why they choose not do that). Absolutely goated company and I knew they keyboard concept had so much potential, glad to see they are finally getting recognition for their hard work (albeit starting with a drama lol).

[@tokaku]

> in actual gameplay where u cant really just make ur whole arm a single finger if u play stuff that has actual 180 or more bpm patterns You can actually, I've played with this playstyle for BPMs up to 270, it's an uncomfortable transition to go from armjacking to streaming but it works for DT and whatnot, though it does have its limits compared to learning to alt (other than incredible shake) And yeah! What wooting is doing is really neat and it's cool that they listen to the community and help them the most

[@newbgamingx1017]

Why do I watch every Wooting review that exists online

[@Fowomy]

10:04 the point of rapid trigger is more like to save u from failing a map after getting fingerlocked rather than stamina cuz u tend to press down the key all the way down u cant change that

[@prxzmsAU]

You can replace the case of the board with a tofu 60, and have no compatibility issues

[@1fareast14]

Steam controller users have enjoyed this input option on the analog triggers for years :) You can use an Xbox or ps4 pad with steam input if you want to try it out

[@Jono997]

Yeah, but the issue is, well, everything else that comes with using a controller. The lack of precision compared to a mouse, the inability to use your entire arm/wrist to spam a key, etc. Don't get me wrong, they have their place, but saying to just use a controller for that lone reason is not a good idea.

[@1fareast14]

@@Jono997 I'm suggesting that people test the idea with stuff they already have to get a feel for what wooting rapid trigger might be like (before they spend 170 usd). I'm not telling people to play osu with an analog stick.

[@Siinory]

Just for the stock thocc it has it's on my wishlist!

[@EneRec]

I love how I've been watching someone casually cosplay Tanjiro since I saw the haori

[@lonewolfhysteria-seb]

It’s 60% to save desk space for gaming in e sports and it gives you much more mousepad space. It honestly the only size I’d buy and I think many other can agree.

[@ShayeEvans]

this board is still on preorder, and razer has been selling one that does this for a while now. it’s not new nor are they the first company to do it.

[@dmangaming4u944]

I totally agree, they need to make a 75% version

[@dhrida5518]

I think it has that amount of layers because the swithes are actually like motion sensors, where a key can be double function, but to have that double function it means that each key must have double circuits to the main pcb and each function will be controlled in how deep the button actually is. But this is just a theory I don't see any other purpose of wasting resources on having multiple layers, even if the intention was to have a stronger plaque the could just make it thicker...

[@kmah324]

I sincerely hope that this very video blows up in views. I seethe the custom keyboard community for not adopting real innovation/improvement (EE side and to a degree, ME side). Thanks, Tokaku :).

[@Zqud]

6:41 who is that in the background ? lol & why homie in the red lookin mad sketch lol

[@VeryButtery]

The software for multiple bindings per key seems super useful but I’m almost scared to set things up that way in case I need to go back to another board for any reason

[@darkdealproductions]

I was FLOORED by the sound profile on this thing

[@kasuraga]

The incredible thing about rapid switch from what I can tell is you can NEVER short stroke the key. ANY impact can trigger it.

[@penguin_flips6014]

I like how when you stream I can just hear you hitting the space bar XD

[@nonbuddy]

what is the display sitting on a stand on the right at 15:20 ? i assume, anyway, that it's a display that's just turned off for whatever reason; don't know what else it would be. also good video :) i really like the shots with the typing test above the kb

[@floams]

that keyboad sounds amazing time to wait till christmas!

[@memphis1009]

Thought of getting it for mania and then i realized that im a jack main in mania and i always lift up my fingers completely. Wouldn’t quite benefit from it unfortunately.

[@capitanowl69420]

Oh my god that sound test.

[@randominist]

the double time outro is back

[@editedbyluxxvfx]

0:58 tokaku: this is the best stock sounding gaming keyboard I've ever touched or heard Gamakay MK61: Am I a joke to you?

[@scamchan4936]

I miss not having to run keyboard software for cool led effects on keyboard + it has so much cool functionality. Very cool 👍

[@PaGDu333]

Even tho I wnt this keybord, I think I'm fine with wht i hve, except the fct tht sometimes the button on my keybord likes to brek.

[@tokaku]

I DON'T THINK YOU'RE DOING FINE AT ALL WITH A BROKEN *A* BUTTON?

[@maidkedi]

LOL

[@QuitsGosling644]

7:43 explain why the space is up side down

[@SerreVid-dt8sm]

Bruh second video about this in a day

[@flare9612]

Good thing Kamehameha power contest by DBZ is a thing of the past

[@gdslowingunicorn1806]

People usually say how their keyboard sounds like Lego, but this one like, actually does… like. It’s crazy.

[@pdb6157]

My mouth dropped at how good this keyboard sounds

[@HyperPigeon]

I'd buy it if my wallet says good to go...

[@PepereWorld]

Oh my, how can you play that fast ? It's amazing !

[@Seydeth]

oh look it’s wooting!! I love their keyboards :D

[@Terrxr010]

man im still using my Wooting One Korean Pro Edition keyboard i got years ago and its still awesome as hell. I mostly play mania and etterna and i do vibro so easily now.

[@UtibaOfficial]

I want it, but apparently they aren’t making anymore until March next year

[@Lekser]

Not true, they are being made in batches and you can preorder current batch that will be shipped in december

[@rumham9911]

That only applies to the fullsize version, 60HE waiting time is currently estimated to January next year if ordered now

[@UtibaOfficial]

@@rumham9911 ohhhh sounds good

[@Lekser]

@@rumham9911 or december if you pay for air delivery

[@chopincj7530]

You know you've made it when you're getting $200 keyboards for free without being paid to make a review on it. Congrats, very well-deserved.

[@MEngelberts]

How no one mention 6:36, mans just wanted the remote

[@Jonathanrawrr]

I use the Razer Huntsman V2 and it has the fastest types of keys. It is optical keys and is much better than most others. Definitely would recommend.

[@supak00pa82]

I use the analog version of the huntsman and I’m pretty sure you can do the same thing as with a wooting

[@basiI]

I’m personally still not great at osu but tbh I might get this anyway despite needing more practice before I really need any upgrades to do better. I’m still using an old keyboard that I had before getting my computer and while it works okay as just a regular keyboard, it honestly sucks for games, especially osu. The force needed to actually press down the keys is way too much, so it’s quite difficult to press the keys on time, especially for anything that requires really quick repeated hits

[@Freakinkat]

The clicking. You either love it or hate it. There is no in-between

[@CornyGarage]

Lucky you got a founders edition with the graphics and the cable. Wish I got it early enough to get that 😭 mine comes in two weeks

[@tht1mzkshiguy]

Who the hell upload a KZbin video at 3 am? Tokaku: Oh boy it's 3 am!

[@offbrnd.]

wowww so best sis 😍😍😍 you must be so rich lah ah bei sing kok gui keypad is too expenside la sis omaigod

[@natel7382]

You got rapid fire and Chinese Spyware all in one!

[@kruk0]

5:23 i think thats more about the other parts gonna be messed up

[@ThisWillCharacter]

I feel like any analogue keyboard would do this. I know razer do one and I think logitech do one and both should be able to do this. If not, it wouldn’t be too hard to develop a background software that adds this in by taking the analogue input to see how far the key is pressed in real time. So if someone prefers other switches, it should be possible to get the same result

[@astroorbis]

8:10 not me resting my pinky on left ctrl automatically

[@mitsimitsii]

bro aint no way I just realised I accidentally got the tokaku desk mat. Ngl tho its sick for my setup but still thats just a massive coincidence.

[@v_AsT]

Got mines yesterday and I play mania and it’s mostly REALLY good for jacks and vibro. Jacks mostly for ratio like I played a map with 78 perfects and 2k marvelous. And it’s ofc good for vibro lol, I downloaded some vibro maps and got some A and S ranks and I can’t vibro so thanks wooting lol. And I agree with the accuracy with the rapid trigger for stream maps like JS and hs and speed, I noticed that I have a more terrible ratio, more greats but less misses but barely would beat my previous pb’s. It works for certain maps, but stream maps is a no, for me at least

[@flleaf]

boge recently got a wooting keyboard and i thought that it was a thing that came out super recently but everyone seem to know what that was which confused me a little. and than this video got recommended to me and i didn't expect that it was a thing for that long for some reason.

[@shadow_hive]

I dont need it.... I dont need it... I NEED IT