Vampires in Greek Myth

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@ShaunCheah
@ShaunCheah 3 жыл бұрын
Local philosopher DESTROYS vampire with FACTS and LOGIC.
@chimpinaneckbrace
@chimpinaneckbrace 3 жыл бұрын
Vampires hate him. Learn one amazing philosophical trick……
@MJanovicable
@MJanovicable 3 жыл бұрын
We could use that philosopher right now for our current social malaise.
@redeye4516
@redeye4516 3 жыл бұрын
+Matt Janovic Look around you Menippus, our democracy is a lie! The parties and bankers have controlled and pre-planned everything! Why, this money isn't even backed by anything!
@chimpinaneckbrace
@chimpinaneckbrace 3 жыл бұрын
@@redeye4516 Ah I see you’re a Colin Robinson style energy vampire. Whenever someone starts a self righteous rant about politics I feel my life force slipping away.
@redeye4516
@redeye4516 3 жыл бұрын
+Chimp in a Neckbrace It's called a joke, please take one
@Belenus3080
@Belenus3080 3 жыл бұрын
“He was charmed, and, as we have said, not terribly perceptive.” A fellow 21st century hopeless romantic
@CountryBwoy
@CountryBwoy 3 жыл бұрын
@Belenus3080 I was scrolling through comments and got to this one right at the exact time it was being said in the video.
@Man_fay_the_Bru
@Man_fay_the_Bru 9 ай бұрын
I think you mean Simp
@hArRyXx1000
@hArRyXx1000 3 жыл бұрын
I am greek. We have this saying that when someone is planning or already is taking advantage of your labor, he/she drinks your blood. I don't know if the saying is derived from vampirism, bats and mosquitos or maybe both of them corerllated. I wonder if the story with the philosopher and the student, is actually told figuratevely, as in, the woman pretends to have all these lavish expensive things and beauty, but the philosopher was able to see through her lies and deception for what she really is, a monster in disguise. It could be said for many people of today, who pretend to be famous or rich on social media, who through their fake appeal along with their fake personas, only try to manipulate others, to drain them.
@sauercrowder
@sauercrowder 3 жыл бұрын
Great insight, thank you
@pierrenoneyabizzo9751
@pierrenoneyabizzo9751 3 жыл бұрын
I think that's a term used in the west as well, except we call them leeches. Like "How long you going to let him/her leech off you"
@satansjihad6353
@satansjihad6353 3 жыл бұрын
There are only vampire bats in latin America , I think.
@hArRyXx1000
@hArRyXx1000 3 жыл бұрын
@@satansjihad6353 you're right! Then the saying must come from the mythological sense of vampirism or maybe leeches or mosquitos?
@Azuchilimited
@Azuchilimited 9 ай бұрын
All I know is, the smart women should realize when they got it good, because dislike or avoidance of others may not have a good reason to compare or make alike to themselves, it's already fake enough. Just take it for what it is.
@ozne_2358
@ozne_2358 3 жыл бұрын
In the version of the "Bride of Corinth" I read, when discovered, the lady actually talks to her parents and says that she wasn't doing anything against the wishes of the gods or something to that extent. More than a vampire story, it seems like the story of a restless soul that had died before her time, without fulfilling her life goal of being a lover and a wife. At least that was my impression and that is a recurring theme in antiquity.
@toldinstone
@toldinstone 3 жыл бұрын
Was that Goethe's version? (I still haven't read that, though I've been meaning to...) In any case, the story as told by Phlegon of Tralles implies much the same thing - that the dead girl wanted to return to the life that had been torn from her. But the implication of the story seems to be (at least to judge from the alarm of the townspeople, who demanded that her body be burned) that she had returned as an empousa.
@ozne_2358
@ozne_2358 3 жыл бұрын
@@toldinstone It was in "Magic, Witchcraft, and Ghosts in the Greek and Roman Worlds", Daniel Ogden, 2002 Oxford University Press. In there, the girl says, before dying (again) “Mother and father, it is unfair of you to have begrudged me spending three days with the guest in my father’s house. I was causing nobody any trouble. As a result of this you will grieve afresh, because of your interference, and I shall return to my appointed place. For it was by the will of the gods that I came here.” . It also says that the guy she visited committed suicide from despair. And yes, the reaction of the townsfolk wasn't good : the girl's body had to be burned outside the city's limits and everyone purified. The book also says that Goethe makes her into a vampire in the "Bride of Corinth". My bad for confusing Goethe's title of the story with Phlegon of Tralles story.
@BlackMasterRoshi
@BlackMasterRoshi 3 жыл бұрын
@@ozne_2358 does she still transform into a skeleton at the end?
@ozne_2358
@ozne_2358 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlackMasterRoshi It doesn't say, but I'd say no for a couple of reasons : 1) After speaking "So much did she say before dying at once, and her body was stretched out on the bed for all to see." 2) When the townsfolk go to the family vault to check whether she was missing, "It was not yet six months since the girl had died. When we had opened up the vault into which all her relatives were put on death, we saw the bodies lying on the other biers, or the bones in the case of those that had died long ago." 1) doesn't seem like the way you talk about a skeleton and the fact that it specifically mentions bones for the longer dead relatives makes me think that, upon her second death, Philinnion (the girl) was not just bones, otherwise it would have probably been mentioned for her too.
@elvenkind6072
@elvenkind6072 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating to hear about how old these stories of blood-drinkers are. I wonder if it's really allegories about how youth and love will end up drained out of people, no matter how beautiful their lover is, and how deep their love is at the beginning, since these vampires are enchanted with the look of beauty, riches and youth. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@criztu
@criztu 3 жыл бұрын
it's about celestial events in the past. The Sun of the ancients was Saturn a red dwarf star. then Saturn went nova and turned off into the gaseous giant of today. Then the solar system of Saturn was captured by today's Sun, and in the process planet Mars came close to Earth for many centuries, and with it a reddness - Mars' northern hemisphere is excavated to 6 km lower than its southern hemisphere. Being red - hebrew name of Mars is Ma'adim - the one who reddens, the myths about Mars are about blood drinking, blood shedding, baptism in blood, wine drinking and so on
@LP-tf7cy
@LP-tf7cy 3 жыл бұрын
@@criztu none of this is true. The gas giants were not stars
@LP-tf7cy
@LP-tf7cy 3 жыл бұрын
Blood was an important symbol of life and inheritance. One who loves too freely loses both.
@Tardig
@Tardig 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe this just actually happened back then...
@CamMackay96
@CamMackay96 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, I like to believe that vampires are real but with less fantastical methods and the lack of plans for wider domination allowing them to remain mostly a myth in most parts of the world.
@learrus
@learrus 3 жыл бұрын
The vampire lady and student story is like an allegory about chasing wealth and material items is an illusionary vampiric waste of life
@da4mula885
@da4mula885 3 жыл бұрын
Oh that is very observant. But I'd argue that without pursuing wealth you can't be much of a support for people in times of need.
@joelewis1776
@joelewis1776 9 ай бұрын
@@da4mula885pursuing wealth to support others and chasing it for materialistic reasons are very different
@a.whyattmann5057
@a.whyattmann5057 3 жыл бұрын
Really charming to hear that these stories go back that far, thanks again.
@vashlash6870
@vashlash6870 3 жыл бұрын
Not as charming as George Lincoln Rockwell. May he rest in peace.
@Shrekfromthehitmovieshrek
@Shrekfromthehitmovieshrek 3 жыл бұрын
@@vashlash6870 what does that mean
@RowdyBoy82
@RowdyBoy82 3 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't stories extend this far back when vampires live forever?
@ryanmarlin2974
@ryanmarlin2974 3 жыл бұрын
They go all the way back to Mesopotamia, way before this
@outta_the_damn_way6671
@outta_the_damn_way6671 3 жыл бұрын
Who’s your pfp?
@Hello-hz7gj
@Hello-hz7gj 3 жыл бұрын
Now all the Greek mythology stuff in Castlevania makes sense.
@PalaeoJoe
@PalaeoJoe 9 ай бұрын
I love this comment
@bombfog1
@bombfog1 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best Halloween themed video that I’ve seen in years. Thank you.
@rickb3078
@rickb3078 3 жыл бұрын
Agree!
@josephchen1973
@josephchen1973 3 жыл бұрын
1st century BC men: Oh boy I sure hope I'm not devoured by a Lamia 21st century AD men: Oh boy I wish I could be devoured by a Lamia
@Strideo1
@Strideo1 2 жыл бұрын
There was a story by Clark Ashton Smith that was published in Weird Tales in the 1930's called "The End of the Story" about a young scholar who finds a beautiful woman while exploring some old ruins. She takes him to her house and feeds him and he starts falling in love with her and getting drowsy and stuff when suddenly a Benidictine monk the young scholar had befriended earlier came in to rescue him. The monk banished the woman's illusions and her home was nothing more than a dirty dark hole and she was revealed to be a blood sucking lamia. She flees from the monk who tells the young scholar he was rescued just in time and he would've been killed that night if the monk hadn't found him. So they go back to the monastery and the rest of the monks help pack everything up and they send the young scholar home. But as soon as he gets home the young man immediately starts making plans to return to the ruins to reunite with the woman/lamia.
@greengoblin876
@greengoblin876 9 ай бұрын
Death by poon ... I really hope the scholar knew what a labia is
@TheFunniBaconMan
@TheFunniBaconMan 9 ай бұрын
For all we know, the 1st century BC men were into vore too.
@countryman625
@countryman625 3 жыл бұрын
I just read the chapter in your book about whether or not they believed in ghosts. This was an awesome pairing to that
@laughtercatz
@laughtercatz 3 жыл бұрын
And what was the conclusion ?
@snowcloudshinobi
@snowcloudshinobi 3 жыл бұрын
these are really neat stories! it's so refreshing not hearing about the same old vampires but instead some more creatives varieties of bloodthirsty and undead monsters from antiquity.
@tigermunky
@tigermunky 3 жыл бұрын
Basically, the warning is this - You are not all that. If a hot girl comes onto you, it's a trap. She either wants to scam you for drinks and money, or she's a vampire and is going to murder you. If a hot girl ever comes onto you, just run away. It's served me well for years. I've had lots of hot girls come onto me in bars, and not one of them has ever taken my blood. As soon as they suggest going back to their place I shout out, "BACK TO HELL, YOU SHE DAEMON!!!!" and then throw alcohol into their face. That is why they've never gotten to me.
@glbale
@glbale 3 жыл бұрын
Keats' poem, Lamia, based on the story about the imperceptive student of Corinth, is well worth reading.
@ozne_2358
@ozne_2358 3 жыл бұрын
I also absolutely recommend Apuleio's "Golden Ass" which is full of sub-stories, including many sinister supernatural ones.
@samliske1482
@samliske1482 3 жыл бұрын
^^^^
@LP-tf7cy
@LP-tf7cy 3 жыл бұрын
I shall be reading this one soon, looking forward to it
@sauercrowder
@sauercrowder 3 жыл бұрын
Enticing title
@Iluvatarion
@Iluvatarion 3 жыл бұрын
Or the "Metamorphoseon" (the same original title of Apuleio's script) of Ovid.
@IndustrialBonecraft
@IndustrialBonecraft 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I also absolutely recommend Apuleio's golden ass....
@Bludvarg
@Bludvarg 3 жыл бұрын
While not typically counted as vampires, the blood-drinking ghosts in The Odyssey might very well classify as such. That being said, Odysseus and his crew actually did travel to Hades in the first place rather than the dead returning to the world of the living, so it's almost more necromancy on Odysseus' part (by the instructions of Circe) than anything else.
@Dobb.
@Dobb. 3 жыл бұрын
Loved listening to this as I did the dishes tonight. Great imagery! Thankyou
@mrwitt5309
@mrwitt5309 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought your book! Can't wait to read!
@2.7petabytes
@2.7petabytes 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel has grown immensely in the last month or so, and for good reason! You make impeccable videos with and excellent delivery! Many thanks! Can’t wait to read your book!
@justwaiting5744
@justwaiting5744 3 жыл бұрын
You have such a calming voice
@sagapoetic8990
@sagapoetic8990 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing to hear the kinds of ghost stories from ancient times. Thank you -- this was so enjoyable
@Cyprusg21
@Cyprusg21 3 жыл бұрын
I found your channel a couple of weeks ago and it's quickly become one of my favs. You always choose interesting and unique topics that most of us would've never learned without you.
@edwardelliott5756
@edwardelliott5756 3 жыл бұрын
Superb storytelling! Yes, I am like many others here beginning to think of your channel as one of my favorite’s.
@emilysimons6759
@emilysimons6759 3 жыл бұрын
This was a perfect video for this time of year. I really enjoyed it!
@AndrewAliferis
@AndrewAliferis 3 жыл бұрын
Garrett, Thank you so much for relating these stories. I know Greek mythology and knew nothing about these vampire tales.
@violahamilton782
@violahamilton782 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for showing us so many wonderful ancient art works in your videos!
@maddmatt9239
@maddmatt9239 3 жыл бұрын
I just got your book and am half way into it. Excellent!
@theajshortman
@theajshortman 3 жыл бұрын
I love there ls always a theme with vampire stories, one of the earliest novels (1871) Carmilla by Sheridan La Fanu has seductive lady vampire who feeds on a lady night after night... Happy Halloween 🎃
@moreplease394
@moreplease394 3 жыл бұрын
Cool book! Didn't think anybody else ever knew about that!
@alqamenesh7433
@alqamenesh7433 3 жыл бұрын
Patrician taste
@chiannsmith6803
@chiannsmith6803 3 жыл бұрын
I learned about this book at a monster erotica panel at a comicon....lol
@AsclepiusHoe
@AsclepiusHoe 3 жыл бұрын
God I wish that were me
@rickb3078
@rickb3078 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the original content. Learning something new every Friday.
@seandantable
@seandantable 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great video! The narration was particularly good.
@stephencampbell2735
@stephencampbell2735 3 жыл бұрын
What an excellent and timely idea for a little video...
@malkomalkavian
@malkomalkavian 3 жыл бұрын
A lively telling of a classic tale :) thank you
@alightcelery7225
@alightcelery7225 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite history videos. I would love to see more like this
@jasonscarborough94
@jasonscarborough94 9 ай бұрын
I feel like the narrator is treating our hero a bit unfairly. On their first meeting the Vampire presents herself as 1) hot, 2) rich, 3) available, and 4) possibly in to him. Most of us would fail to maintain higher brain functions in that scenario.
@supermoneyball420
@supermoneyball420 3 жыл бұрын
6:23 he knew what was going down, dude was just cool with that tradeoff 😂
@dyinggaul8365
@dyinggaul8365 3 жыл бұрын
Dude. That was awesome
@billmulch1887
@billmulch1887 3 жыл бұрын
Being stuck home with COVID this channel is such a blessing
@maximilianrahner9356
@maximilianrahner9356 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you get better soon!
@dlevi67
@dlevi67 3 жыл бұрын
Get better soon!
@ericastier1646
@ericastier1646 3 жыл бұрын
I especially liked the visuals that accompanied your telling of the stories. There is something about roman painting of human characters that is upset-ling. Take @6:20 for example. the bodies a perfection of grace and elegance in a dance especially the woman. But the faces. The faces always have a stern intense and severe look from anachronistic eyes. It's the look of fear and intimidation. I could venture an interpretation of it, but it would be a guess. I've seen that expression on roman paintings before. I believe this is the a glimpse into these people's psychology and i see something we do not have today. Something in between civilization, and barbarism, something in between anarchy and the social contract of society.
@hexakosioihexekontahexafob1418
@hexakosioihexekontahexafob1418 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Love your videos!
@theseduxe1111
@theseduxe1111 3 жыл бұрын
Best yet!
@lennyerdody
@lennyerdody 3 жыл бұрын
Needed this
@joaquinmig
@joaquinmig 3 жыл бұрын
Bought your new book today, can’t wait for it to arrive! Keep it up buddy! :)
@HauntedHarmonics
@HauntedHarmonics 3 жыл бұрын
this was great, id love to see a video on ghost stories in antiquity as well
@carleslazaro6117
@carleslazaro6117 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video, but what truly amazed was the gorgeous frescoes, many of them i had never seen before. Could you give us some references, please? Thank you for this beatiful Halloween gift.
@toldinstone
@toldinstone 3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome. Many of the images came from my collection of photos from the Naples Archaeological Museum, and most of the rest were public domain images of the same wonderful collection. Is there any particular image you'd like to know more about?
@carleslazaro6117
@carleslazaro6117 3 жыл бұрын
@@toldinstone You are always so kind to respond so quickly! The paintings that leave me speechless are those of the minute: 0:10 It looks like the outskirts of a shrine, with different altars, hanging offerings even from the trees. 1:50 What I imagine are characters walking around the necropolis on the outskirts of a city. 3:05 One person making an offering at an altar while another collects berries with a curious hat. 4:00 It looks like a fight or battle scene in a wetland, presided over by a sculpture or a deity. These paintings are truly an open window to that time, what was life then, how they represented it and the way they did it. The fast traces of the brush, the dynamism of the figures, the landscapes, the scale of the human body in well-composed settings that perfectly combine architecture and nature. Sometimes it seem to me that i am contemplating Impressionist paintings. Responding to your question, I'd like to know more about every one of them! Hahahaha! Have a nice day!
@toldinstone
@toldinstone 3 жыл бұрын
@@carleslazaro6117 They really are remarkable frescoes - so different, in both style and content, from the more familiar public art of the classical world. A bit of detail on the images you mentioned: The first image (from the villa of Agrippa Postumus in Boscotrecase) is a generic "sacred landscape," notionally set in Egypt, with a shrine in the background. You're right about the offerings in the trees. The second image (also from the villa of Agrippa) is a detail from another "sacred landscape" scene. The large vase stands on the steps of a sanctuary laden with offerings. The third image (from the Sanctuary of Isis in Pompeii) is yet another idyllic sacred landscape, with what appears to be a satyr standing in front of a small altar and a fisherman in a broad-brimmed hat in the background. The fourth image, finally, is a badly-faded depiction of Theseus saving Andromeda from the sea monster. The figure of Andromeda has faded to an eerie pale silhouette.
@zenekragdoll8064
@zenekragdoll8064 3 жыл бұрын
Guy: I love this rich woman Oh hey Menippus SNAP BACK TO REALITY where's my rich woman
@darkestknightreturns
@darkestknightreturns 3 жыл бұрын
The Student and the Vampire was well told and captivating, bravo sir
@eagle-tn6br
@eagle-tn6br 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these vids sir
@Garbagejuicewaterfall
@Garbagejuicewaterfall 3 жыл бұрын
Thumbnail: Vampires in Greek myth Me: the bloodiest who in whoville.
@abcedy123456
@abcedy123456 3 жыл бұрын
Man. This is so interesting. I've been looking for something like this. Ancient stories of various subjects. But this is even better. Vampires in ancient Greece. ❤️ Good job man! 👍
@emmapeel8163
@emmapeel8163 3 жыл бұрын
good storytelling. good images. subbed! 👍🏼
@EmpireExplorer
@EmpireExplorer 3 жыл бұрын
Love this channel
@miroslavmaixner4651
@miroslavmaixner4651 2 жыл бұрын
This is fascinating. The core concept of an alluring monster sucking life in a beautiful woman's form is so similar to the Chinese or oriental concept of the Fox. I know very similar stories from Chinese folklore. Could there have been some cultural influences via Hellenistic Asia? On the other hand, the main source of our current cultural notion of the vampire, stemming from Central and Eastern European folklore, is quite different - vampirs, upirs, upiors were usually un/dead rising from their graves, or frequently just „normal“ living men and women possessing sinister magical powers, which they used to make harm to their community, sucking the life energy, blood or health at night in a changed form (usually that of moth, wolf of other animal forms). However in Balkan and Eastern Europe, sometimes they were also called strigs (strigon, strega, strigona), so there is a possible connection to this Ancient Greek cultural heritage. Bram Stoker's concept, which formed our present-day notion of the vampire, is mostly a mixture of Slavic and Balkan folklore with other influences, such as these ancient traditions, and stories about historical figures like Elisabeth Bathory or Vlad Tepes (Dracula)...
@jerryofsanfrancisco
@jerryofsanfrancisco 3 жыл бұрын
I bought your book in San Francisco, California last week. I look forward to reading it! :------>))
@steverambo4692
@steverambo4692 9 ай бұрын
This is basically the Ancient Greek version of marrying a stripper
@censusgary
@censusgary 9 ай бұрын
Vampire stories are told in many, maybe all, cultures around the world. They must develop out of some universal human fear (or desire?).
@kaindracula2662
@kaindracula2662 3 жыл бұрын
I am a big fan of vampire fiction and was unaware that they dated back so far, thank you for the education.
@lordzooq8987
@lordzooq8987 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is awsome
@jamesallison4875
@jamesallison4875 Ай бұрын
Congratulations! You are narrating in an excellent manner. I shall return to following your always excellent historicity. Good job 👍
@centipede9467
@centipede9467 3 жыл бұрын
Loving these halloween episodes thank you so much
@falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962
@falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962 3 жыл бұрын
The Gene Wolfe novel "The Sorcerer's House" is based on this particular Lamia story, and is one of my favorite Wolfe novels. The whole narrative is a trick within a trick. Would highly recommend. Horror and Fantasy, but really just a Horror novel under it all.
@neoAREAXIS
@neoAREAXIS 9 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this. Cheers!
@Zomrem
@Zomrem Жыл бұрын
Rock on, Garrett!
@destruction8946
@destruction8946 Жыл бұрын
Darn Phoenicians and their trickery.
@hawaiisidecar
@hawaiisidecar 3 жыл бұрын
Very good episode.
@johnmanno2052
@johnmanno2052 3 жыл бұрын
Ah! The Lamia! Always a good story!
@KiltedShepherd
@KiltedShepherd 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorites.
@americalatinastory6022
@americalatinastory6022 3 жыл бұрын
Good philosophical tale, well illustrated.
@susanhepburn6040
@susanhepburn6040 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@alexandragamingronyno2275
@alexandragamingronyno2275 3 жыл бұрын
Myths about snakes with hypnotic powers everywhere. Greece. Egypt. India. China. Mesoamerica. Why is this theme so broad and so common?
@sauercrowder
@sauercrowder 3 жыл бұрын
All of these cultures were pretty well connected to each other, it should be noted
@robbabcock_
@robbabcock_ 3 жыл бұрын
Great story!
@jarrah580
@jarrah580 3 жыл бұрын
4:50 and big fat honkers
@iraklisvelaoras8335
@iraklisvelaoras8335 3 жыл бұрын
Nice story!!!
@mojavefry2617
@mojavefry2617 3 жыл бұрын
Lamias back then: horrific vampires that want to eat you Lamias nowadays: cute waifus you want to be eaten by
@warboats
@warboats 3 жыл бұрын
I'm noticing a gendered pattern concerning ancient greek monsters... Gorgon, Empousa, Mormo, Brimo, Stryx... ancient greek men really were terrified of women (not to mention "meddling, sneaky witches" like Circe , Graeae and Medea, whos name actually comes from the greek verb "to plot carefully")... Baubo is my favourite, apparently she appears a "gigantic, nocturnal spectre"... basically a huge, lanky shadow that sneaks around in the night, absolutley chilling to me. I forgot from where, but i remember reading that these are all epithets for Hekate, which would make sense, her being the "goddess of witches and spells". Baubo literally means "barker" or "roarer", after the greek version of the onymatapaieic word for the sound baying dogs make - "bark" - "βαύ" - this is because apparently Hermes once tried to force himself on Hekate and she roared so loud he ran away... badass. i love all your videos! this one was great, i'm gonna have to get your book all this stuff is just so interesting to me.
@TNCo230
@TNCo230 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating... In Lithuanian mythology is some scare mythical creature call "Baubas" (word itself is masculine gender). And verb "baubti" is one version of "to roar" in lithuanian
@paigeelliott9674
@paigeelliott9674 3 жыл бұрын
That’s super interesting cuz I know there’s also Baubo the “goddess of mirth” who’s associated with ritual sexual humor, and possibly with the figure of Iambe in the Homeric ode to Demeter, and iambic poetry? Which is a very different picture of women than the monster and witch stories, and given some of the ritual obscenity in honor of Demeter seems to have been a feature of exclusively female cults might have something to do with how Greek women saw themselves, as opposed to how men saw them.
@DrFranklynAnderson
@DrFranklynAnderson 3 жыл бұрын
The Minotaur, centaurs, satyrs, cyclopses, Typhon… guys like Ixion, Sisyphus, and Tantalus… it’s honestly a pretty even split, gender-wise.
@warboats
@warboats 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrFranklynAnderson it's not really even when we're talking about monsters. Most of those you listed are rather mythical creatures or species of men and also had a female counterpart (Typhon-Echidna, Satyrs-Maenads and I'm sure there were female Cyclops and centaur but maybe not), like there's no male counterpart to Medusa, Brimo etc they are specifically female and specifically monsters ie actively hunt down men.... Also look how the women who are r*ped are treated in Greek myth... Medusa was a normal woman before she was r*ped, blamed for said r*pe then turned into a monster that literally no on can even look at. There's another myth concerning how the constellation Ursa major came to be, a girl longed to live with Artemis, but was then r*ped by Zeus, and because Artemis felt "betrayed" by her for not being a virgin like her anymore (because, I remind you, she was r*ped by a god), Artemis turned her into a fking bear!! The myth of that one is long and very interesting if not fking depressing... oh and god knows how many women Hera punished for daring to be r*ped by her husband... My point is, yes there were male monsters and mythical figures who are severely punished for being horrible people, but if you look at the backstories for basically any Greek myth, chances are there will be some pronounced sexism and misogyny... it's informative and helpful for our own cultural development to accept this. I mean, beside myth,they really did treat women really abusive and oppressively. I love Greek myth but it's impossible to deny they hyper masculin, homo erotic and very misogynistic culture that was critical to their culture and it's development.
@warboats
@warboats 3 жыл бұрын
@@TNCo230 raaa that is interesting! There absolutely has to be a connection there! Great thing about folkloric characters is that the state/church has no way to stop the spread and transmission of their stories so they last for ever! Lithuania isn't really close to Greece either is it? Would be interesting to see if other neighbouring cultures have their own version too.
@dmitribohanon3106
@dmitribohanon3106 3 жыл бұрын
Turning on these post notifications was one of the best decisions I've made lol
@abraxas2
@abraxas2 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@johnsherfey3675
@johnsherfey3675 9 ай бұрын
4:55 it's an actual dragon, feet and all, it's only missing is the wings! Pretty crazy.
@NL-ws5fv
@NL-ws5fv 3 жыл бұрын
You know, that first story really reminds me alot of a couples stories I heard about Jorogumo in Japanese folklore. Some things are universal. Keep an eye out for strange women.
@slorbin
@slorbin 3 жыл бұрын
This happened to my buddy Lazlo back in college.
@miketacos9034
@miketacos9034 3 жыл бұрын
4:07 to 4:12 “I KNOW! That was the point!”
@sants.guitar
@sants.guitar 3 жыл бұрын
Might become a history teacher now, who knows
@chemskiesukvol.2covid19isbs
@chemskiesukvol.2covid19isbs 3 жыл бұрын
They will only allow the teaching of false history now
@josephbolton5199
@josephbolton5199 3 жыл бұрын
@@chemskiesukvol.2covid19isbs hey everybody! This person is special and "can see through the media!" Drop what your doing, disregard all bodies of academic knowledge, burn your degrees and just do what they tell you!
@jimbochungus
@jimbochungus 3 жыл бұрын
@@josephbolton5199 you are cringe
@josephbolton5199
@josephbolton5199 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimbochungus more than a grade nine dropout who doesn't understand the levels of academic rigour that goes into historical research, so he thinks that reading some unsubstantiated claims on the internet makes him an expert, but also, deep down inside, he is aware that he'll never be recognized as an expert, so at every opportunity he makes vague inferences of a conspiracy amongst the elitist gatekeepers of knowledge to exclude him?... Ok.
@jimbochungus
@jimbochungus 3 жыл бұрын
@@josephbolton5199 major cringe bro
@micahpaich4228
@micahpaich4228 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos
@mitjellk2186
@mitjellk2186 3 жыл бұрын
With its hypnotic "gaze" - sure, sure. Let's go with that.
@Fractal_blip
@Fractal_blip 3 жыл бұрын
SPOOOKY
@DwarfCrafter21
@DwarfCrafter21 3 жыл бұрын
Educational and entertaining
@charlesedwardandrewlincoln8181
@charlesedwardandrewlincoln8181 3 жыл бұрын
But if Venice existed, does this mean it is a Byzantine myth rather than Ancient Greece? Was Corinth a big trading city during Byzantine times?
@Ramoreira86
@Ramoreira86 3 жыл бұрын
Just by the thumbnail i thought you would be talk about "the Grinch in ancient greece"
@isabellyshelly8276
@isabellyshelly8276 3 жыл бұрын
5:05 Batsquatch
@Tristan_Homewood
@Tristan_Homewood 3 жыл бұрын
I hope there is an audiobook version of your book
@toldinstone
@toldinstone 3 жыл бұрын
There is - you'll find it on Audible!
@dhammapalatan360
@dhammapalatan360 9 ай бұрын
In Theravada Buddhism, there is a traditional practice known as Sacca-kiriya or an “act of truth,” a type of protective blessing that involved chanting something incontrovertibly true, and then saying, “By the power of this truth, may there be such-and-such.”
@arshdixit1566
@arshdixit1566 3 жыл бұрын
Love the voices
@otoyayamaguchi3954
@otoyayamaguchi3954 3 жыл бұрын
You are, without doubt, an amazing historian. I'm buying that book.
@histguy101
@histguy101 3 жыл бұрын
Those paintings are terrifying
@IndustrialBonecraft
@IndustrialBonecraft 3 жыл бұрын
The first story: "I'm just a teeenage dir- Uh, ancient Grecian vampire babyyyy"
@User21248
@User21248 3 жыл бұрын
“Like the horror movie character he is” LMFAOOO BYE-
@madiantin
@madiantin 3 жыл бұрын
I had no idea vampires were so ancient.
@overworlder
@overworlder 3 жыл бұрын
The paintings!
@frederickhargro5153
@frederickhargro5153 2 жыл бұрын
5:05 The Strix, sounds like basis for Jeepers Creepers.
@where7847
@where7847 3 жыл бұрын
there needs to be a horror film set in ancient rome
@kellydalstok8900
@kellydalstok8900 3 жыл бұрын
Greece
@kevinlewis3029
@kevinlewis3029 3 жыл бұрын
"Sandy!"
@Midnightv
@Midnightv 3 жыл бұрын
I saw a movie called kingdom Or rampant set in josean Korea... I think something like that would be awesome set In ancient Greece
@talia_d
@talia_d 3 жыл бұрын
someone in a discord server suggested this video because i was talking about a vampire story i'm working on
@StephenRansom47
@StephenRansom47 3 жыл бұрын
Just saw some stuff on Electric Universe UK that talks about the Egyptian Book of the Dead… The speaker goes deep into the uses of electric forces in some of the pharaonic ceremonies… really fascinating stuff about regeneration. Listening to myth with our present POV gets better all the time.
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