Tom English embarrassingly misses the point on Celtic fans and the minute's silence

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Tom English weighs in to stick the boot into the Celtic fans and the minute's silence and perfectly proves that he hasn't got a clue what he is talking about.
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[@davidbutterworth9609]

Football is so far up its own arse it thinks that Football Clubs should commemorate loads of occasions. It’s nonsense. If you want to respect the dead of 2 WWs or even all the military who have lost there lives in conflict, then get off your arse and go to a commemorative event. Ridiculous that sporting occasions have been taken over by these issues where everyone is expected to follow a single line of thought. That’s not freedom. So if the authorities are not happy with dissent, don’t use football as a tool.

[@StrangeloveTheDoctor]

You are supposed to take a minutes silence on the the 11th minute of the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month to remember your fallen, what we see at the football is nothing short of a fascist citizen test.

[@THEPORKSCHLUPPEXPRESS1888]

HH Doc hope you and yours well mate 🙏

[@WHU63]

Every other club seems to be able to keep the silence. Celtic fans can't even take 1 minute a year to remember Peter Johnstone, one of their own players who lost his life in WW1. Celtic claim Irish heritage yet can't be silent for 49,000 Irishmen who died during that war.

[@420somewhereG]

Strange Dr HH 🍀

[@HughTrodden-mj2bv]

​@@WHU63You are 100 % bang on son , a lot of Celtic players were involved in both wars , I remember looking this up years ago and remember a Celtic player who was wounded 7 yes 7 times , anyhow we are a staunch GLASGOW CELTIC SUPPORTING FAMILY from KILMARNOCK , and I was sickened by these FKRS on Sunday , my dad was 18 in 1944 and sent to fight the Japs he was in the REME , one of my uncle's was in the Navy , torpedoed TWICE , but survived and has the Burns to prove it . We also have a strong Irish heritage from my mum's side , so FK these degenerate , disrespectful FKRS , ask the same ones to sign up for Hamas who they support and they will run like. FK . Cheers from Johannesburg 🍀🎄

[@johnwick1-f2t]

@@WHU63 Hes just told you why, what is the extra need to do it at football grounds when people know its divisive?

[@studslannigan6286]

Praises Derek McInnes 😂 the guy who was filmed singing anti Catholic anti Irish hate songs while a Teenage Roman Catholic Celtic Supporter was lying in the Glasgow Morgue ..his ignorance is just so appalling.

[@matthewmiles9626]

They all say not to bring politics into football unless it suits them it seems.

[@spms3018]

MSM, SFA, SPFL, UEFA, FIFA all say it…unless it fits their agenda of course

[@andymcaleer4163]

You can't blame Irish celtic fan's for not observing it, their brothers and sisters died at the hands of British soldiers, so think about that people

[@THEPORKSCHLUPPEXPRESS1888]

I was talking to a guy yesterday who's dad was murdered by them, kind of hit home hearing someone's first hand experience of the brutality of the British army

[@WHU63]

​@@THEPORKSCHLUPPEXPRESS1888 The IRA murdered more Catholics in NI than the security forces combined. Fact. In Derry City the IRA killed more Catholics than the loyalists and security forces combined. Fact. The statistics of the troubles are that the Security forces killed 355 people. Loyalists killed 850. The IRA killed 1696. Five times more people were killed by the IRA brutality than security forces.

[@wewouldneversellourclubfor3166]

But the Scottish media don't want to hear about all the troubles that the British inflicted apon the Irish and northern Irish in past times 🇮🇪🍀

[@ononewheellad]

@@THEPORKSCHLUPPEXPRESS1888Did he mention Omagh to you or the Shankill bomb or Bloody Friday, Kingsmills massacre perhaps.

[@alanknotts1844]

​@@ononewheelladwhataboutry thick nonsensr

[@THEPORKSCHLUPPEXPRESS1888]

Didn't the remembrance Sunday thing not start in 1946 after ww2? Tom's arguement about Celtic players dying in first world war may be correct but the poppy wasn't around that time although was later to include the first ww, it's now just a nod to the empire for past atrocities, I respect the minutes silence for all fallen in both ww1 and 2 which is as i always remembered it but will not recognise any war since

[@WHU63]

Remembrance began with those who died in WW1. That war ended at 11am on 11th November 1918. So why do you have respect for the fallen of the two World wars but not any subsequent wars? Soldiers go to where they're posted by the Government. It's not a choice.

[@kerranderson4757]

Its a free country. You don't need to like the song or where and when they or any one sings. But its there right to do so in a safe non violent way. It'd the tight we all have. Given to us by the people who lived fought and died for all our freedoms. Then we have you lot trying to. 1-push what you want EVERYONE to do. 2- take away people's rights. Ummmmmm I'm sure there's a name for that. So. Listen up. RESPECT every one right to exercise there freedom rights. Ok.

[@Ross-jg1te]

Free speech just the same as the orange walks we catholics have to put up with every year

[@wewouldneversellourclubfor3166]

And nothing said about that 🇮🇪🍀

[@ononewheellad]

So it’s all about religion, thought that. At least you’re honest.

[@HughTrodden-mj2bv]

@@Ross-jg1te You tell them son , regards from Johannesburg 🍀☘️☘️🍀🍀☘️☘️🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🎄

[@THEPORKSCHLUPPEXPRESS1888]

He sadly missed out the part where the Huns never released players to fight in ww2 and instead found them nice jobs at home, and they sing about the glory of king and country but run and hide at the first sign of conflict 😅

[@keithclarke3835]

Big jock knew

[@PaddyGallagher-d3j]

So did souness​@@keithclarke3835

[@alanknotts1844]

English Tom is a West Brit rugby fan who owes his Irish citizenship to Republicans🇮🇪👍

[@derrydoire1864]

Well said Alan , if you look at my comment McInnes is a hypocrite as well , lectures from him no chance

[@derrydoire1864]

I agreed with you Alan and my comment was taken down

[@Born_Celtic]

@@derrydoire1864 I never touched your comment mate

[@alanknotts1844]

@@derrydoire1864 you should repost derrydoire🇮🇪👍

[@Martin-pz1sg]

Wise up Tom

[@muirisoniallagain737]

Typical. Shameful that some Irish will always support the British. Conveniently ignores that the poppy is not related to the 2 world wars alone but also remembers their murderous campaigns in Ireland. Maybe he should listen to James McClean on the matter. Also no comment on the song Celtic fans were singing about Aidan McAnespie an innocent Irishman shot down in cold blood by the British army on his way to a Gaelic football game in Co.Tyrone. No mention either that he was subject to ongoing harassment each time he crossed the border to work prior to this. British soldiers even urinated in his lunch at times. Some heroes.

[@robertallan4916]

What voice do many have that is as loud as the agreement of fellow (Celtic) fans. It may be argued that we could do things differently, but many feel that silent protest does not work. Are we supposed to worry about the politic of others? No.

[@I_Mackenzie67]

Why would uefa get involved? Why would stadium closures be an option? The fans that have booed or chose to sign have broken no laws or rules. This is another example of hypocrisy when it comes to football and politics. This is exactly why the two things don't belong together.

[@billydonnelly7639]

Laws of common decency

[@I_Mackenzie67]

@billydonnelly7639 little Billy snowflake ❄️

[@I_Mackenzie67]

@billydonnelly7639 here comes the tears 😭😭😭❄️

[@alanknotts1844]

​@@billydonnelly7639like Bloody Sunday where whereby the Widgery report claimed the Para's were attacked by the victims? Total lies.

[@andrewturnbull9253]

Well said Tom, but I don't hear you saying anything about the vile sectarian songs that rangers fans sing, hello hello eh Tom

[@ILCJ1]

Whataboutary

[@ononewheellad]

The Ira songs never happen. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh you.

[@johnwick1-f2t]

The tradition of observing the minute's silence on November 11th at 11 a.m. started in 1919, a year after World War I ended on November 11, 1918. Remembrance Sunday was introduced in 1946, 27 years later, to allow people to honor those who lost their lives in both world wars on the closest Sunday to that date. Given this long-established tradition, anyone demanding an additional minute’s silence later on should be considered as overstepping. The current observances are well-respected, and pushing for more silences outside of these established moments may come across as unnecessary or divisive which is what people like Tom English want.

[@MichelleDowney-ts6en]

I would like you hear what you would say if you seen any of your family members been shot from the British army just because you have a different religion

[@acelticfansview]

He needs to learn his history but at the same time nothing new for a Free Stater

[@rosscrawford7870]

Another tosser who knows exactly why celtic fans do what they do. Every single yr this gets dredged up with the same old faces. Just gets so tedious now. 🍀🍀💚

[@football55851]

Were you praising Mr McGinnis when he belted out songs of hate when he was wearing the blue jersey? Celtic supporters never forget the sins against...

[@CharliePrice-z8r]

Tom, I would prefer that they observed the silence. But, if you are going to talk about it, then do it properly. You are not under informed. You are only adding to the problem.

[@ciaran180]

Let Celtic play at home on the Saturday and people can do what they want on the Sunday. Fixed.

[@THEPORKSCHLUPPEXPRESS1888]

That'll never happen mate the mainstream media wouldn't stand for it, every year they look on this day as a way to drag Celtic into the gutter alongside themselves and the vile racist entity posing as the auld deid vile racist entity that were there before 😉

[@DavidBroadley-tw7ks]

That's why the orange walk like to walk down catholic areas and past chapels to wind up catholics the prodestant SFA RIG IT EVERY YEAR SO THAT CELTICS AWAY FROM HOME KNOWING THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN SO CELTIC GET A BAD NAME BUT TURN A BLIND EYE EVERY WEEK TO RANGERS FANS SINGING ABOUT KILLING CATHOLICS

[@TheDes36]

English by name English by nature

[@ernestmostly8156]

Spot on! How can you honour the war dead whilst you are complicit in war crimes, British hypocrisy is off the scale!

[@donaldesmond9752]

Seems this West brit doesn't remember Bloody Sunday and other atrocities perpetrated by the British armed forces worldwide.

[@sanfranceltic7578]

Blocked me for saying he's a self loathing Irishman. Truth hurts.

[@salamanco968]

For years ive argued that the fans respect the silence, but stand and turn their backs.

[@garrymclaughlan6433]

Uefa care more about teams being a minute late for kick off than a minute silence in domestic football.

[@tommygunn1887]

There was a minutes silence before the sound came on. Get it sorted.

[@matthewmiles9626]

That'll be because the other mob got nice cushy jobs in the shipyard then.

[@buisty1888]

😂the guy a pure clown

[@chrisryan464]

Isn’t the wearing of a poppy banned by uefa ? Or am I wrong ?

[@MrJTHOMMO]

He’s right why can’t people just show respect for one minute? I don’t give a fuck about your politics. Put up a banner stay out of the ground whatever you want but to disrespect the memory of so many is ridiculous.

[@jopaterson1664]

Up to our necks in fenian blood……is that respect?they have been warned for years.English is a moron.has he mentioned anything about the disgusting history of sectarian Rangers policies of not employing catholics?

[@paulthetame6739]

Remembrance Sunday is for honouring all fallen armed forces and many Irish people, people with Irish relatives/strong ties to Ireland or even just of Irish heritage justifiably can’t bring themselves to betray that heritage by observing a tradition that includes honouring those that occupied, brutalised and murdered their kin, not to mention the institution that ordered it. Nobody is balanced enough to even consider if those objecting to the minute silence are offended by even being asked to observe it in the first place. They object to Protesting a minute silence with silence (eg turning their backs) because it may be more respectful but it isn’t very effective. Had they simply turned their backs they’d be getting heavily criticised for that also. Perhaps it would be more sensible to not ask people to observe a tradition who are widely known to object to it. If we’re honest and rational we can all agree that there were simple solutions that would completely avoid this outcome, such as putting more thought into fixture scheduling.

[@Dave-s8y]

​@@paulthetame6739 But people of African and Asian heritage can forget the past and respect the minutes silence strange that the Irish can't

[@paulthetame6739]

@@Dave-s8y All of them? Those who do are free to make their own decision. However, not even that many African and Asian countries observe it. Some Irish do though. Ireland observes it’s own day to remember/commemorate fallen soldiers. Regardless, I don’t think a sensible argument is to tell them they should get over it. Certainly not when, as I mentioned above, you clearly have no real knowledge of the history of the occupation. Surely that should be critical when attempting to form a criticism of or argument against the protesters actions?

[@Dave-s8y]

@@paulthetame6739 A lot of African and Asian people attend football and observe it and your right Ireland should have there own day to remember there lost one's and I would respect that I wouldn't disrupt it

[@ILCJ1]

Forget the politics how about staying silent for people who lost their life’s?

[@alanknotts1844]

Educate yourself

[@olearyma57]

Bobby Sands !

[@alanknotts1844]

@@ILCJ1 Aiden McAnespie. Why are a lot of these new Celtic customers completely ignorant?!

[@ruairicrawford9698]

Tom wanting to bring politics into football?

[@ononewheellad]

😂😂😂😂 the irony of your post. Bizarre.

[@ruairicrawford9698]

@ it’s Tom who is always preaching to keep politics out of football…….

[@johnsullivan6946]

Long live the resistance

[@tommygunn1887]

People are there for the football. Keep your politics at home. Not everyone is brainwashed.

[@ononewheellad]

Not possible at Celtic park. The gb see to that.

[@ianmorrison5177]

No he doesn’t.

[@420somewhereG]

📽️🎬🍿🍀

[@jimcunningham9975]

💣💣💣💣💣💣💣

[@stevenburns4296]

It's only became an issue since Rangers fans ran amok in Manchester in 2008.

[@AbandonEarth911]

Workers of all lands unite.

[@ajjo-ni8mw]

🥲🥲

[@carter3170]

He's spot on, it's embarrassing along with the cringe Palestine flag waving.a bunch of virtue signalling simpletons!!

[@donuttime2507]

3rd place sounds about right!HH

[@carter3170]

@@donuttime2507 don't know why u replied to my comment with this!! I'm a Celtic fan but ok😅

[@michaelclarke721]

@@carter3170you sound more at home at ibrox

[@alanknotts1844]

​@@michaelclarke721aye, gombeens

[@jopaterson1664]

Did uefa jump in when rangers were asked to stop singing billy boys.

[@TerenceCarroll-k6f]

Agree with Tom it's a brass neck most surporters don't care aboute Palestine or whate Britain done a 100 years ago but a lot ov celtic guys died in 2 wars so they shud know the history but they only like there history

[@alanknotts1844]

Did you go to school to submit this?

[@markcoutts6539]

The only brass neck is your spelling you thick cunt

[@TerenceCarroll-k6f]

@alanknotts1844 gfu

[@davidelliot7834]

Where, Rangers?

[@kevibhoy3203]

Yes, DM knew, but that's all kept quite☘️🇨🇮🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿