Tom Magee Vs Bret Hart, The Lost Best-Worst Match | Esoteric Internet

[@Mcrawf21]

The 1st match is on the WWE network now. Bret and Tom are going to screen it and do commentary at Starrcast.

[@Mijack1]

What does that have to do with anything?

[@crackrat6166]

Steeler Fan Black! They were black! 😂😂😂😂 Shocker!

[@Mindstamina]

And the people who jumped HBK were white so what is your point? You inbred hick?

[@georgewilson7432]

@@crackrat6166 What the fuck is this pathetic exchange? Keep your racism for PewDiePie.

[@user-zu9yp4xx8g]

@@georgewilson7432 PewDiePie isn't racist

[@hitman450]

Funny how Vince needed Bret to help get Tom Magee over as the next big thing...but the "next one" turned out to be Bret.

[@epicproportionsmediaproduc6697]

After that match, Vince was sure he had found his next guy, and he was right, only his name wasn’t Tom Maghee, it was Bret Hart.

[@kerwinjeudy4225]

Absolutely

[@Eighties_Child]

Preach!!

[@endersdragon34]

Took him more than a half decade after this to realize that though

[@mikeskinner7595]

yep

[@Michael-dd6hl]

Yes..just six years later Hart would win the WWF(WWE) championship for the 1st of his 5 WWE titles..also in 1991-92 Bret won 2 IC championships..and the 1993 King of the Ring. Along with Shawn Michaels Bret Hart was the dominant wrestler from 1991 to 1997.

[@Rockhound6165]

You know a guy's bad if Bret Hart can't carry him. I mean, Bret was capable of putting on a 5 star match with a mop if he had to.

[@ForEternia]

Agree

[@SimpleManGuitars1973]

Bret Hart DID carry him. The match with Bret made him look awesome but when he got in the ring with everyone else it was clear that he was terrible and Bret had made him LOOK like he was great.

[@CronoXpono]

Yeah, Bret’s as good a hand as it gets. And this...sigh.

[@christiancharles2866]

Bret can carry anyone to a great match. Even Jean Pierre lefitte

[@mr.marino9247]

@@christiancharles2866 The only thing Bret couldnt handle is to wrestle against a man who never could wrestle: Goldberg. He ended Bret`s career because he was too stupid and unskilled to sell a high kick. God Bless Regal for doing a wrestling masterclass with him with all the crowd as witnesses.

[@NemeanLion-]

The guy couldn’t wrestle, but he was about as a perfect a genetic phenomenon as you could hope for. I don’t think people realize what it is to take second place in the world strongest man and be great at gymnastics, martial arts, 6 foot five ripped physique.

[@williamcolbert996]

Yeah. He was basically LEX LUGER (minus the gymnastics and martial arts)!

[@williamsmith1803]

It's far more impressive to achieve what he did in weightlifting and gymnastics than to become even the greatest at such a contrived sport as wrestling; though, I wouldn't say a "genetic phenomenon", when half of it was likely due to the assistance of an "anabolic phenomenon".

[@NemeanLion-]

William Smith If you believe steroids alone grant agility, or success in the Worlds Strongest Man competition, then you are uneducated on the subject.

[@williamsmith1803]

@@NemeanLion- Did I not say "half of it"? How many people off PEDs do you see doing what Magee was doing, again? That's what I thought.

[@NemeanLion-]

William Smith Steroids are not going to play a substantial role in gymnastic ability. Either you’ve got agility or you don’t. As far strongman competition, steroids are required to succeed in the sport. but are not what separates the top guys from the thousands of others that never qualified. Do you know how many PED abusers would love to succeed in strongman and suck at it? It takes a lot more than steroids to reach the top. He may take anabolics, but the majority of his success isn’t from the drugs, it’s from his genetics.

[@clarknapper3933]

I'm kind of surprised they didn't change Tom's name, "Tom Magee" sounds like some random job guy, not your next champion.

[@Pseudiom]

Well he had the "MegaMan" moniker, but I guess he just never got far enough for a name change.

[@pmtheone2009]

Pseudiom Agreed.

[@joes4194]

Oh? I guess "John Cena" sounds so champion worthy?

[@joes4194]

@metalfaust19 No it doesn't. The name Cena only sounds marketable with flair to you because you associate with a guy who has been a star for the last 17 years. Before that, his name didn't sound flashy or marketable. It was practically forgettable. I watched his debut live. His name didn't stand out. Magee, on paper, sounds no more or less marketable than Hogan or Anderson or Blanchard or Hennig or Roberts, yet those 5 names and plenty others are now legendary in wrestling.

[@BigBadJerryRogers]

@@joes4194Had John Cena been wrestling in the 80's WWF it likely would have been a different story and he'd have a gimmick name. This is actually a fair point, if they had such plans from the start they would have gimmicked him up with a name they could market as they did with everybody else who they saw real star potential in.

[@therasslintheatre2960]

Kenny Omega used Kushida's Delorean to travel to the 80's and fight Bret Hart

[@ronniejdio9411]

No Fight Tom McGee

[@Pseudiom]

Kenny Omega is his own father.

[@rockajabroni5975]

At the cost of all his abilities lol

[@Filmation77]

Lolz!

[@andreconner2973]

Hhhmmm Kenny omega did wear a terminator get up to the ring once....

[@roadkill2726]

"You're the next best thing! You are our next Hulk Hogan' *Turns down Pat Patterson's sexual solicitation* 3 days later "We have to let you go. You're just not talented enough"

[@johnnyjerseyshardest]

Hahaha

[@stealthbombsmith7770]

Just say no to the career carpet aka the bearskin rug

[@lossiiburns]

Damn hahahaha

[@andreconner2973]

30 years later.... Tom Mega Man MaGee signs with AEW to support his long lost son Kenny Omega in his match with Chris Jericho

[@fireheartis1]

Haha

[@CronoXpono]

Lol! Nice!

[@ObiWon1089]

They do look alike @3:28

[@gogotero99]

Tom Magee is just Kenny Omega as a rookie who travelled to the future to wrestle him and learn from him. The rest is history

[@davesnyder7488]

Wait- wouldn’t that have caused a transdimentional shift between timelines because they touched each other/themselves... Awww shit

[@DeadKoby]

I found a few other of Tom Magee's matches. They were NOT terrible. He was obviously athletic, and I can understand why the company was impressed with him.

[@Pseudiom]

As far as I can tell, Magee's problem was he couldn't develop. He had everything, but nothing ever came from it. I honestly don't think he was awful (for the 80's at least), but its obvious he was mostly looks. He just could not learn apparently.

[@KaneRobot]

If his matches were not terrible, it's because he was in there with someone could make him look good.

[@gst013]

I thought the same, but the one thing that really stood out was that his joints seemed ridiculously stiff...like an action figure. He was really athletic, but he kind of moved like a robot, and there wasn't any realism in any of his moves. Plus the no charisma thing, of course...

[@Pseudiom]

@@KaneRobot If anything, this proves how good Bret Hart is/was.

[@chitownace777]

KaneRobot that could be said about many guys

[@chesley_77]

WWE is releasing this match tomorrow on the network

[@wlittle8908]

Bret Hart was truly the best in ring performer ever and can make any match look 5 star. An example would be his match with Davey Boy Smith. Bret said he had to talk to Davey Boy through the whole match pretty much carrying him so hats off to Bret because this man is not only a sound technician but a ring general. I still say to this day that as great as the WWE portrayed Bret he was still even better than that.

[@royjonzejr]

"I'm fooked" --British Bulldog

[@nmk8475]

They found it lads. It's gonna get uploaded to the Network. Meltzer better be ready to issue his first 7 star match

[@GranValor97]

I’m glad this popped up on my recommendations, nice video!!

[@strathroyaaron]

Boella? It's Bollea... Jeez dude if you're doing a documentary, at least get the names right.

[@thatdude4206]

I was just about to make the same comment but you beat me to it. Couldn't even pronounce it right Bollea... Bo-lay-uhh

[@uncensored008]

If Michelangelo was commissioned to make a sculpture of Hercules, it would look like Tom Magee.

[@sbrown480]

I always love to see some wrestling content, such a fascinating community and history. Thanks for covering it!

[@ChrisC11291980]

Hulk Hogan's real name is not Terry Boella, it's Terry "Bollea".

[@AloneViibes]

This guy has multiple mistakes and misconceptions in this

[@kelliesampson845]

Like an Ep of The Twilight Zone was how it felt to me.

[@scragglewaggle4109]

I knew as soon as he said it

[@SegaDream131]

He says cocacola made hamburgers!!!😒

[@pseudotaco]

@@SegaDream131 No, he didn't 0:17

[@Killian_sawyer]

Who else is here being confused from the cultaholic video

[@yvonnebartley7660]

Me

[@jessycruz2465]

In an alternate world tom mcgee was in ultimate warrior's place and fighting hulk hogan at wrestlemania VI.

[@hisroyalhighness8566]

Terry Gene Buhlowah? 😅🤣😅🤣😅🤣😂. That's a butchering Abdullah would be proud of

[@Maxx_XIII]

It bugs me when there are so many audio clips of countless people saying certain words or names, yet many people never attempt to seek these audio clips out to research how they're pronounced. It's Boh-lay-uh, in this case. Everyone else knows this, or bothers to find this out.

[@stephensandridge3784]

Holy crap I saw this guy in an Augusta GA house show in either 89 or 90. I wish I could remember who he faced. I remember Ultimate Warrior vs Andre, and a yet-to-debut Dusty Rhodes vs. Ted Dibiase on that same card too. He was billed as 'Mega Man' which I thought was weird at the time because the NES games were already so popular.

[@Pseudiom]

Do you remember anything about him? Was he as supposedly bad as they say? How'd he look? I'd love to hear.

[@stephensandridge3784]

@@Pseudiom from what I remember he was really slow, reminscient of heel Lex Luger in a few ways. Posed a lot after every knockdown and would yell "YEAHHHHH" as he posed - like jacked up Kool-Aid man. I promise I'm not making this up.

[@Pseudiom]

I 100% believe you. This is exactly what I expected from the footage.

[@stephensandridge3784]

After some googling I can confirm it was the July 31, 1989 house show at Augusta Civic Center- pretty sure he worked Tim Horner there (all sites I see only have the Warrior/Andre match listed, but that was the one because it was a Warrior squash and it blew my 7 year old mind at the time to see Andre lose so quickly)

[@murada2007]

I saw this guy in Dec of 81 at the first powerlifting meet I ever attended. He was very strong especially for his height and woukd get nosebleeds on his squats and deadlifts. I'm guessing his blood pressure was through the roof.

[@maeschder]

The height translation from feet to meters is hilariously off. 6'5'' is not 1,82m that would be like 5'11.5'' Its actually more around 1,96m

[@Pseudiom]

Must have screwed it up. Sorry. Not great at the math (or put the wrong number into the converter).

[@MortanAMrk]

Its okay bro i dont know how to cm/m to feet either. 🤗

[@DividedWeAllFall]

I don't know how I found your channel, but I enjoy it.

[@codysnyder90]

Tom Magee is the guy The Boz fought at the biker rally in the movie "Stone Cold" (1991), also starring Lance Henriksen and William Forsythe.

[@allamericananti-christ666]

Good call! I love that flick. Would've never put those two together, though.

[@stephenc8]

fantastic watch, thank you, you've earned a new subscriber

[@ericdawson1088]

GREAT TOPIC ,not many talk or even know about this, thx and u just earned a sub from me!!!!!!!

[@Sahdow232]

Great video man. Keep em coming.

[@do3807]

Thanks I needed this

[@Zero8880]

And this is why Bret Hart is the greatest in ring wrestler of all time. In a time of kayfabe, Bret Hart made you second guess whether or not wrestling was fake. He could turn a turd into gold in the ring. What puts Bret ahead of Shawn Michaels is that, when he entered the ropes, all out of ring factors were gone, it was all about the match and making as flawless as possible. Whereas Shawn, as talented as he was, would often put himself above the match, for instance his matches with Vader and Hogan. Yes Hart had diva moments as well, but that was left in the back. Bret Hart was like the Jerry Rice of wrestling and Shawn was like Randy Moss. Yes, Moss was more exciting to watch and had more natural talent, but he would take plays off and even said himself that he only plays when he wants to. Rice on the other hand, was not as naturally gifted, but he honed his craft like no other WR in history, and as soon as he stepped on the field, there was only the game and nothing else.

[@SegaDream131]

I always put Sharpe ahead of both....

[@starrsmith3810]

Bret was alot more easier to deal with then Shawn more then likely 90s Shawn Michaels was the definition of a egocentric diva

[@izocshow2158]

The hell with this missing footage where is the infamous Jake The Snake DDT Hulk Hogan footage on the snake pit

[@johnt.campbell316]

Where the audience cheered Jake for doing it? The fans were ready to turn on Hogan that far back. He just knew he wouldn't make as much money; or that someone might make more than him.

[@thatguy3718]

We also need the original audio for the royal rumble 92 where the crowd cheered Sid and booed Hogan

[@izocshow2158]

@@thatguy3718 agree

[@izocshow2158]

@@johnt.campbell316 they wanted to keep Jake Roberts on midcard Jake vs Hogan would have did more for Jake than Hulk Hogan

[@AcidRayne100]

From what I can piece together, they did that angle on two non-televised house shows to see crowd reaction and both times the crowd cheered the DDT. So Vince decided to ditch the feud before it began, and turn Jake face instead. That's why there is no video footage of it.

[@theinfamousmrsleep]

"the match will never be televised." 5/14/2019. The match will be shown in its entirety on the network. EDIT: saw the match. Goddamn.....

[@patg9754]

To be fair,I don't think it's gonna hurt Bret's push or status at this point in time 😁

[@samsmith8725]

LMAO how bad was he that the warrior was better???

[@uchibenkei]

@Jerry Ogburn yeah. warrior was good on the mic and had enough moves to get by. charisma wins out.

[@TheDanielShepherd]

Exactly this. People keep going on about his in ring work. It’s better than both Hogan and Warriors. But listen to him talk, he couldn’t be either of those guys, nor have the intensity. WCW had about 20 of these sort of guys through the 90s.

[@1980redkremlin]

this is beautifully edited

[@yeetleslaw8529]

Great content as usual.

[@mr.mirchenstein6549]

1:19 why does the date on the vhs tape say 1989 when it happened in 86?

[@shocxxxx]

at 0:37 you spell and pronounce Hulk Hogans real name (Terry BOLLEA, not Boella) incorrectly. And at 4:05 you say Tom came in 2nd at the 1983 WSM, but it was actually the TWI WSM, and it was in 1982 he came in 2nd not 83

[@Doskharaas]

Tom Magee wrestled legendary Choshu Riki in Mixed Martial Arts match. Can you believe that? And the match was worst. Even Choshu could not save the match.

[@sidjustice4701]

This guy looks like Kenny Omega.

[@RowdyRodimus]

Thank you for using the Ozzie Smith NLCS "Go crazy" homerun in the beginning for baseball, he's my all time favorite player and the call of it by Jack Buck made it even better.

[@hamoudziane]

Earned a sub!

[@HeyPreezy]

I really wished Magee did better. Wish he could've loved and embraced the sport more. He had it all, Kenny Omega looks and a godly physique. He had strength. And I really like his athleticism. I mean this man is doing SSP flips before it was cool in Wrestling. He's really like a prototype of guys his size who can do flippy shits. Yet he didn't capitalized on that. His strikes were awkward, especially his kicks. His stance is weird. His walk and hulking up is worse than Ultimate Warrior's. Yet there's so much potential to him but when like 5 years had passed and there's still no development y'know that you're just not really meant for Wrestling. Which sucks. I have him as World Champ on Fire Pro right now so at least I get to honor his wasted potential.

[@SpiralPoli]

Kinda ironic that Bret ended up being the next top guy after Hogan while Tom Magee fell into complete obscurity.

[@billybennett4103]

Ranks up there with never released footage of the snake pit where jake roberts ddt hogan and the crowd cheers. But footage was cut and not shown on tv

[@119Agent]

There is an incorrect premise here. Vince needed to replace Hogan because Hogan was going to try out Hollywood, which he did. he needed to put the belt on someone else while hogan was making films. it ended up being Randy Savage then Ultimate Warrior. It never had anything to do with his hairline.

[@eckmann88]

The match and a documentary on it is now on WWE Network!

[@hassanpalomo4705]

What about mr. Perfect vs Brock lesner

[@megaquake8870]

That backflip was impressive 😳

[@cl-vision5029]

And people say my town ain't known for nothing. Lmfao

[@grandpa_the_nerd]

A documentary and the match will air after Raw on the network.

[@grandpa_the_nerd]

@Damien Croner yes

[@jamesgeese]

Really

[@CrazyAztekX3]

For only $9.99

[@TheProtonC]

6'5 = 195 cm NOT 182 cm, 182 cm is almost 6'

[@krebyrocks77]

As a Canadian, it definitely would have been awesome to see Magee become the star Vince envisioned he'd be. Although once Vince has his champion, we know how overbooked, pushed and dominant they become until most fans get sick of them. It's all moot now but somehow I imagine that if Magee became "The Mega Man" (which would also have been cool since I am a huge fan of the Mega Man series), Vince would have likely advertised Magee as an American to seamlessly transition people from one red, white and blue character to another. Vince is as patriotic as they come and especially during the 80s and early 90s, the majority of foreign wrestlers were heels because USA good, everywhere else bad. Magee must have really stunk for Vince to give up on him as other bigger guys would be pushed even though they offered little beyond size and perhaps becoming a monster for go figure; a Hulk Hogan, or other top guys to slay. So who thinks Magee is going to get inducted into the 2020 WWE Hall of Fame? Just me?

[@Rendezman562]

wow, I can see why Vince wanted him to succeed. too bad I never heard of this guy!

[@jjfromthebigland781]

I've seen the entire match here on KZbin... its tough to find... like the Star Wars Holiday Special tough...

[@badnewskellyleak5974]

Hulkamania actually started in the AWA in 1982

[@erinmsomers]

Yes, but Verne would never pull the trigger and give Hulk the AWA title..so it doesn't really count

[@jstanley3187]

In his book Hart mentions that Magee couldn't even walk across the ring without tripping.

[@cpalmer8945]

Why does the vhs cassette say 1989. I thought it was 86

[@cpalmer8945]

Nevermind

[@tristanhudson8519]

How did this leak? I thought the woman who had this in a old box of tapes said she wasn't goin to release it yet

[@benjaminvlz]

It didn't leak.

[@register1430]

I got tricked too.... thought this was going to showing a real clip. Good story, nice production and you have good narration chops. I will consider a sub. Thought you might picked up the story from a year ago when his name surfaced from getting a near fatal beating at his home in Los Angeles . I remember the hype he got in Van when I used to watch in the day. He should have gotten seasoned in Stampede first.

[@Pseudiom]

Didn't mean for the title to be misleading. The clip in there is actually from the match, but we don't have the full thing yet.

[@myrongaines5542]

Yeah 6 punks nearly killed him

[@Unknown-bq9id]

Oh, Vince McMahon did find his next champion...it just wasn't Tom Magee; give credit to Bret for making Magee look like he was good (then again, Bret could make THE BROOKLYN BRAWLER look good if he had to)...

[@kunjikorans]

Where is that video?

[@samsmith8725]

if he was so great why haven't we ever seen him again

[@rodsturgis9941]

Why not just put the guy in a mask and let him master his abilities and not push him so hard to bump Hogan

[@Poohdaddymagic]

He's built kind of like Van Hammer from old school WCW...

[@Tilly236]

I'm more surprised that Vince kept a promise than anything.

[@SuperKeith007]

He always said "I guarantee it" & it comes true lol

[@sukerAndre]

Looks Like Omegas Father

[@nuckweise]

I clicked on this because I'm a big smelly Bret Hart mark, and I am happy that I did. Can of coke to you mate, good vid. Subscribed.

[@Chrisbernstein]

Osw reference? 👍

[@nuckweise]

@@Chrisbernstein happy days.

[@yardape99]

The rarity of the video tape is like the T-206 Honus Wagner baseball card, minus baseball, a picture of a skilled pro and the value.

[@roballman5726]

How's tape bad and good at the same time someone explain the intro?

[@georgewilson7432]

You forgot the biggest American hobby, secret operations.

[@quietriotfan1976]

It's going to find it's way to some venue like You Tube sooner or later. It was thought that there were no copies, either video or audio, of the Pirates/Yankees World Series game where Bill Mazorski hit that infamous home run. 50+ years later, a home video 8mm copy of the game was found and aired on MLB network.

[@angelotero7729]

Where did that video of Magee whipping Bret come from if it's so lost

[@dvdviolencevideo1725]

A girl on twitter has a copy and posted clips

[@80sclassic63]

Published on my 6th birthday in 1989!

[@wawaelias8842]

Vince has wwf tapes in a room and there is a sign that says " NOT TO BE DUPLICATED PLAYED IT DAMAGED " And in case a fire happens there's a foam that will protect the tapes from being damaged but i would love to be able to spend a week with those tapes and watch them ..

[@daisysaini7910]

And 6'5'' is not 182 cm 182 cm is 6'foot

[@Jason_Sutton]

Why does anyone care about this match?I've never even heard of Tom Magee till today and I've been watching wrestling since 1984. I remember Scott Magee but he was a jobber like I'm guessing Tom Magee was after Vince changed his mind about his push.

[@Jason_Sutton]

If anybody does care the match will be shown on wwe network after Raw this monday.

[@ronniejdio9411]

Mcgee's hair > Bret hart

[@Pseudiom]

He did have excellent style.

[@christiancharles2866]

Bret the best wrestler of all time. Who cares about hair.

[@lankey6969]

The lost match remains lost. Save yourself 15 minutes. The match isn't in this video.

[@ClassicKrusty]

What an amazing athlete tho.

[@superlyger]

KlassicKrusty he is still an amazing athlete. He is in to a lot of X sports. Skate boarding, surfing, rollerblading.

[@son_1118]

you should do more wrestling related videos!

[@MrChrisStingray]

That was in Rochester?

[@Pseudiom]

First match was (according to several statements I saw). Second one was in Wisconsin.

[@MrChrisStingray]

I was there in Rochester but I was way too young to remember that.

[@sukerAndre]

Can u imagine if Tom McGee where at Hulks place at WM 9. Maybe with that song. I'm a real Canadian fight for the right for Irishman tüt tüt tüt tütütütütütüüü. What u gonna do when Tom McGee and his GEESAMANIACS runs wild on u.

[@jyesucevitz]

Were they really looking for a Hogan replacement that early?

[@destroyerofheroes]

Every time there's a discussion about Magee online, it seems that generally the most clueless of wrestling fans tend to comment. If you can wade through the 25,000 HE LOOKS LIKE KENNY OMEGA AF SMH 100 PERCENT SIGN comments from millenials, then you get the TOM MAGEE DIDN'T HAVE WHAT IT TOOK comments. It's 80's pro wrestling, does anybody remember how that worked? If you can make Lex Luger into a star, Tom Magee could EASILY be a star. Flair Carried Sting to good matches. Hawk & Animal wouldn't sell and were wacked out on cocaine just doing power moves. Hulk Hogan did 4 moves tops. You could've just painted Magee up as Ultimate Warrior and he could've done as good of a job as Jim Helwig, probably 10X better actually. I'm pretty sure there's more to this story behind the scenes as opposed to what happened in the ring. Lex Luger was a much worse wrestler than Magee by a mile, and they made Luger into a legend. Sure, Magee was no where near Flair, Steamboat, Macho or Bret Hart but he could easily be on par with the in-ring work of guys like Sid, Luger, Nash and Hogan. I mean, you guys think that Mongo McMichael could be a Horseman, but they couldn't get Magee over???????

[@toddknaperek8225]

Regardless how bad it might be, I bet it looks like Savage/Steamboat compared to the match Zeus had with Abdullah the Butcher.

[@sega32xxx14]

I am STILL shocked that match got booked.... Like WHO THE FUCK THINKS "Ahhh... The Butcher vs. Zeus! That's masterpiece in the making of I've ever heard of one! Sure to put thousands of highly interested asses in the seats!" Like what the FUCK is wrong with some of these bookers!!!?

[@armo-bb-]

Just watched this after WM 35. Nice

[@andrewwolfgang7461]

It's going to be in the network tomorrow!

[@RobHoffmann]

There is a plausible reason for the Magee/McGhee spelling error. At about the time that Tom Magee was arriving in the WWF, there was a wrestler working the NWA Florida circuit named Scott McGhee. McGhee got a small push in Florida, winning the tag and Florida titles, and then pretty much disappeared (although he apparently worked for WWE as a jobber in... oh my... 1985-87, not that I remember this - I do remember his Florida run). But anyone in the business at the time would have been forgiven if they crossed up WWF's Tom Magee with Florida's Scott McGhee (especially if they'd seen McGhee work as a prelim guy in WWE). And if that's what helped keep this match hidden, then it was frankly the biggest thing Scott McGhee ever did in wrestling. :)

[@1980bwc]

That match wasnt awful! It was great! Also you spelled Hogan's last name Bollea wrong. Also, Vince never told Magee about any of his plans for him. Tom never knew until this tape was found, and learned about how legendary that match was, and Vince's plans for him.

[@dragonfire3152]

I see you had a clip of the match. Why not show us the whole match?

[@TyrannosaurusThunder]

Bret would still rate Tom Magee in his top 1000 wrestlers, but not Triple H.

[@Mario_Gillette]

So really, what's the big deal about this particular match? Was it that we can't see it? (yes I know WWE is about to show it) , or because Hart did business for the guy? McGee just washed out, so he's nothing all that special in the Wrestling world. What's the big deal?

[@danieltroche6019]

Basically that Hart hated jobbing to basically an unknown that was getting a push that wasnt ready for the big time. I don't know if you watch these "shoot" interviews you'll learn that many wrestlers had that issue.

[@Mario_Gillette]

@@danieltroche6019 Ok, I can see what you're saying, Daniel. Thanks for making it clearer for me.

[@MovieEnvy]

So did you do any of your own research or did you just take all your info from Colt Cabanas video of the same subject?

[@peterjohnjoseph]

DId you watch more than 5 minutes of the video, or did you just start typing because you felt the need to? He clearly credits Colt's podcast for having the most info on the subject. Colt's video is a clip from his podcast from awhile back. He released it as a clip because the tape was found on the 29th. Thats also why this video and several others have been made.

[@Pseudiom]

Yeah. I added some detail to fill out Magee's background because I feel like Colt's podcast was a little light on Magee as a person. I also credited Colt and Meltzer since that is where a majority of the info on the match itself came from, but I also used posts from old Wrestling Forums and Bret's Autobiography. And since the video finally surfaced I added a good amount of detail on that. I also covered some of the theories on why the tape was so obscure/rare. It is obviously going to be similar to Colt's podcast since its the same topic, but consider this video an unoffical "sequel".

[@lunardancer6047]

Boella, LOL. It's Terry Bollea. Cool video though.

[@MoneyHoneyBunny]

Vince always tells guys he is gonna give them the belt. Mr Kennedy, Cody Rhodes, Damien Sandow, Mustafa Ali, just to name a few guys that he changed his mind on at the last second.

[@nodayoff1000]

I heard of this match and always wanted to see that match

[@ThemightyCholeslaw]

As someone who does karate and jujitsu I can't grasp why couldn't Tom just base his style around a brawler or shoot style like he could have been a early version of dan severn or ken shamrock like in martial arts you train for fighting scenarios just transfer some stuff to the ring like don't actually whale on the guy but make like he was

[@Realest636]

cholewars yeah I’ve always wondered this myself. You would think he would take to wrestling like a fish to water.

[@3Bros001]

Vince(& wrestlers) back then probably thought it would hurt someone in the ring. Now it's a no brainer.

[@theamericandreamdave]

Shooters or Hookers are more likely to be terrible professional wrestlers. When your are legit your are thought to protect yourself always in professional wrestling your are asked to do things which is the exact opposite of your trained instinct. That is why Kurt Angle is such a unique talent.

[@superlyger]

cholewars if brad reaighans trained him it would have been a different career. Brad would have made him be a shooter with Inokis NJPW. Inoki loved shooters.

[@AudioAndroid]

I'm having trouble finding the match in your video.

[@RetroPillowcase]

Lol

[@joker167able]

15:04 Hulk Hogan 🤔his fame never eclipsed the Brooklyn Brawler 🤣