Tom Paris realizes he is going to be a father

Tom Paris realizes he is going to be a father

[@SapphireCrusader1988]

"Offspring can be disturbingly illogical yet profoundly fulfilling. You should anticipate paradox." This seems like good first-time parent advice.

[@thebarrellord.6683]

So true.

[@cunningsmile4166]

Kids act tyhehe opposite of what they want

[@DragonLordGabrielBrowncoat]

Love how B’elanna has learned to control herself more over the year. Great character growth.

[@mngentry]

As we get wiser, we begin to realize that we're not always wise.

[@London1869]

"Old friends drop away..." You are trapped together on a ship in the Delta Quadrant. Other than mortality, where are you going to go, exactly?

[@Myrathosghost]

London1869 maybe since they’re stuck someone wants to take a long walk out a short airlock 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@nicoleackerman205]

They will be back home in seven months.

[@London1869]

@@nicoleackerman205 True.

[@partyguy101ify]

​@@Myrathosghost"That's as funny as a screen door on a battleship." 😉

[@nodnarbleahcim5097]

I became a first time father last July. Even long before then, Tuvok’s words on parenthood stuck with me and are even more deeply resonant today.

[@bbenjoe]

Tuvok's advice is plain perfect.

[@Smeginator]

"I'm going to volunteer to work with you on a regular basis." *continues working with Harry for the rest of the series*

[@5Mariner]

It must have been off screen

[@delvorin1705]

Well tbf i think he meant for after the baby is born. That happened while they got home to earth so no chance to volunteer :p

[@MattApple_]

The baby was born on the last episode of the series

[@peterwright5358]

"...Experiencing mood volatility..." Well that combined with Klingon tempers....Good Luck Tom!

[@Mindraker1]

"Behavioral volatility" uh that's the human in you talking, sweetie.

[@StryderK]

Umm...Be'Lana is half human....So the mood swings and behavioral volatility can come at any time....Combined that with Klingon tempers...Yeah, Paris....Offer to work overtime!

[@Chocobear555]

So basically ... she was pregnant during the entirety of the series. :D

[@Daehawk]

Awwww. Always liked their romance . They acted it well.

[@Silverhawk100]

Tom Paris is already a father of three by Janeway.

[@adamdemgar2798]

Silverhawk100 But Miral is not a slug. Hahaha

[@Rert]

let's all just try to forget that episode happened.

[@cameronclophus7998]

Silverhawk100 do what now?

[@JonathanLundkvist]

We do not talk about that.

[@JaguarCats]

AGREED!

[@xThirdOpsx]

0:55 That faint "Mr. Paris..." always makes me laugh! He's basically cut the bullshit Tom, what is it?

[@kellyrayburn4093]

He says, "But I'm ready." Wrong. You're never ready for parenthood the first time. You can be a great parent, but until you actually have children, you aren't ready. Just like any other leadership position, you can never be ready until you actually do it. You can say with authority, "I'm ready" for the 2nd and subsequent child, but for the first, nope. That's like someone given their first ship command. "I'm ready for it." No you aren't. You can do it. But you can't be ready until you are actually in command.

[@SeansModelBuilds]

And Janeway's first command got the ship stuck in the Delta Quadrant, missing the Dominion War. As the novel Homecoming implied, Voyager's crew was seen as "less than" by Starfleet for not being around during the Dominion War.

[@kellyrayburn4093]

@@SeansModelBuilds Novels are not canon. I don't see people actually thinking that when the crew had no choice in the matter regardless of what that non-canonical novel said.

[@SeansModelBuilds]

@@kellyrayburn4093 Janeway did have a choice. She could have brought the crew home and obeyed the Prime Directive. She left the Ocampa behind anyway when she started home the long way.

[@kellyrayburn4093]

@@SeansModelBuilds I didn't mean Janeway. I meant the crew. They were following orders. The people in the Federation aren't going to think they are less than for following orders.

[@SeansModelBuilds]

@@kellyrayburn4093 I suppose so. As long as the orders are lawful. I wonder if the fate of the Voyager crew after they got home will ne discussed in more detail in the new Picard Series.

[@Jeng4280]

Loved this show and this episode was a real tearjerker.

[@kencrawford5524]

I always loved B'elanna.

[@Howyaduing]

3:27 I was like oh shit RUN TO THE NEAREST AIRLOCK!!!!!

[@kofteburger]

I love Tuvok.

[@troyterry6919]

This may be the first time you have ever offered to assist me.

[@CoolsBreeze]

Having a kid in the 24th century is so easy. Replicators to feed and clothe them and no existence of money so that every child can live a healthy and balanced life. Funny how parents in the 24th century can still have anxiety over having children.

[@mosspally6995]

IT’S A LITTLE PERSON that comes out of you...

[@pacetti07]

CoolsBreeze Having anxiety over having children is a condition that’s never going to change for parents. Not now, or in the 24th century.

[@0hvist]

the anxiety stems from two ways: whether the parents will be good enough for their child, or more tragically if their child will be able to survive to birth: remember back in Season 1 where one of the officers had to have their child Transported out of her mothers womb because her cranial ridges threatened to tear her uterine walls, only for this to cause a life-threatening chemical imbalance in the childs' biology.

[@hitmonkey4726]

We live in a world right now where it is mostly peaceful, enough food for everyone, job exist. I wonder how it is raising children during medieval age. The point is it is not easy to raise children no matter what technology and society has evolved.

[@ronaldrobertson2332]

I take it you never had kids 😬😵😲😨😨😣.

[@sarahberkner]

Yes, that's what pregnancy is for, to let the guy get used to the idea of fatherhood while the mom is at the very least uncomfortable for 9 months. It's not like it's necessary for the baby's development or anything.

[@munkieznmoar1268]

This episode had me and my mother sobbing.

[@captainmaratcium2369]

What was the episodes name

[@munkieznmoar1268]

@@captainmaratcium2369 Lineage

[@captainmaratcium2369]

RoseLuneFleur Shield thx

[@danielhausser8038]

I NEVER saw him as Paris, but as Locarno. 😆

[@itchyisvegeta]

I wish they made him the same character. It would have given the character more history for the dedicated audience.

[@Einargizz]

@@itchyisvegeta They didn't do it because it would have meant giving royalties to writes of the Locarno episode, for every single Voyager episode, since Paris is one of the main characters.

[@spockmcoyissmart961]

I didn't see any bite marks on Tom or him having broken bones after mating with a Klingon

[@solidshake12]

Well, she's only half human. Or maybe the Doctor is skilled at healing him

[@k.t.1641]

Heh heh. Didn’t seven piss belanna off when she said there isn’t anyone on deck 7 who doesn’t know when they are having intimate relations lmao. That sounds pretty rough.

[@dhinton1]

@@k.t.1641 Deck 9. Section 12. and I'm pretty sure a few in the adjoining sections could have heard too 🤣🤣🤣

[@nicoleackerman205]

@@k.t.1641 Yes Someone To Watch Over me is a great episode.

[@myfavoritemartian1]

Savor it. All too soon, they're gone. Then you have to reinvent your life and speak to each other again.

[@oliviahills1022]

Nobody told tuvok 💔

[@mardus_ee]

He would reprimand the teller for spreading 'unfounded and unconfirmed rumours about someone's private life.' Furthermore, Vulcans are extremely private about their own families.

[@asianfireflie]

Harry a trusted friend

[@BridgeToGantry]

Does the thought of impending parenthood impinge on the frame rate of video, reducing it to 10 FPS?

[@KuDastardly]

lol! That video cut end interrupted a hail which in turn interrupted a romance dinner.

[@dr.wolinsbelt]

“Godfather” Nelix won’t even be on the ship when the baby is born 😂

[@JamesCarmichael]

I love how Star Trek always had family/parenthood values in it. I feel these days fathers are often viewed with negativity and disdain.

[@EmptyMan000]

Only bad fathers are viewed with negativity and disdain. Don't generalize to affect all the good daddies out there.

[@JamesCarmichael]

EmptyMan000 I'm not trying to generalised, but watch TV. The men are often prptraied as bumbling idiots. Not a good role model for my daughter or her friends.

[@JamesCarmichael]

Sorry for the typos I'm on mobile phone.

[@dwolfg]

really? please list all the shows today that list the average father in a strong positive light.

[@JamesCarmichael]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6XJqYyIoLKgpMU Just to add a relevant perspective.

[@NickJohnCoop]

I wouldn’t trust Neelix around the baby, hell I wouldn’t trust him not to accidentally cook the baby. This is a cook so bad he made the ship sick sometimes.

[@sarahberkner]

While I don't hate Neelix as much as others do, you have a point about his cooking. But maybe in the 24th century none of them could cook so they didn't have a choice. Also they wouldn't know how to prepare food they've never seen before. I'd trust him around the baby though.

[@r0bw00d]

The notification chime there at the end was a message from the Borg telling them that their child belongs to the Collective now.

[@elisabethcoley6430]

They should have had a boy and a girl

[@Chocobear555]

I never did warm up to the idea of Paris and Torres being an item. But I like the idea of Tom becoming a father. :)

[@phtevlin]

I always thought that Tom and Harry would make a great couple.

[@theAverageJoe25]

phtevlin eew

[@mkbuddy]

@@phtevlin neither were gay

[@dragon22214]

@@mkbuddy harry sure acted like had a thing for tom those to were way to close

[@RimWulf]

The reason B'Elanna Torres became pregnant was because actress Roxann Dawson was pregnant, which is one reason they gave B'Elanna Torres a lab coat because she was showing too soon.

[@nicoleackerman205]

That was season 4 when she was pregnant in real life they actually wrote her pregnant just because in this season.

[@RimWulf]

@@nicoleackerman205 I literally said that. The only difference is I couldn't remember the season. Other than that you just summarized what I said.

[@nicoleackerman205]

@@RimWulf I thought you ment the actress was pregnant for real this season which she wasn't The character was but not Roxann. Where season the character was not but she was in real life that why she was not on the episode Living Witness because of maternity leave.

[@RimWulf]

​@@nicoleackerman205Yeah I didn't recognize what season this was from

[@archangelstormrider3695]

Behavioral volatility... She wasn't volatile before she got pregnant??

[@burnzy3210]

Why is this like 10 frames per second 😂

[@Paranormalin416]

This is a bit of a story, so pls bear with me....No amount of advice on earth could ever prepare someone for parenthood!! (Anyone who’s been a parent would agree). It’s funny...because I’m an openly gay man, being a dad was the furthest thing from my mind (I did want to be a dad, but when I was older) when I was in my early 20’s (I’m now 51), but after meeting my husband 10 days after my 20th birthday, back in December 1988, I was in for a rude awakening! What 20 year old man, let alone a gay man (back then, it was illegal for a gay person to get married or have a child by adoption or surrogate) thinks about kids? I was just looking for someone to share my life with, someone to love (I wasn’t your typical 20 year old guy, I wasn’t interested in being a player, and sleeping with as many people as I could, at all, I always knew I wanted to be in a committed, monogamous, and loving long term relationship). Well...we met on December 10th...I was desperate to start living life as a gay man (remember, back then, there was no internet, and homophobia was rampant), so when I met my hubby, it was indeed love at first sight (we met through an old fashion dating agency...I’d already met many, many guys, none of which were a match). He, a newly arrived refugee to Canada (from El Salvador), and I, a young man about to start university (I took a year off to work FT, so I would have any student debt), and absolutely desperate to live the live I’d dreamed about for so long. Our first date I spent the night (I has done so with a few of the many guys I had already been matched up with, and while desperate, I wasn’t going to settle for second best, I NEVER allow desperation to dictate my actions), awoke the next morning after a wonderful night of unbridled passion, just watching him sleep, thinking to myself “he’s the one”. What I didn’t know was, he had a girlfriend (which he dumped immediately after meeting me), and had fled his country not just because of the civil war, but so he too could explore his sexuality freely (in his country, at the time, getting caught with another man normally resulted in your extremely violent death, a chance he didn’t want to take). Anyways...we hit it off immediately, and I hate wasting time. He had been looking for a roommate at the time, so on the 17th, exactly a week after we met, I moved in with him in his very large bachelor apt (it was over 750sq feet). I rented a truck, told my family the truth, which they actually took pretty well, especially since it was a week before Xmas, and helped me move out and in with my new hubby. Now...during all this, I notice many pictures of a young boy in his place. At first, he told me it was just pictures of him, and I believed it, because it looked just like him. It wasn’t until 6 weeks later that he finally admitted that it was really his son! When he was 15, he was sexually assaulted by his family housekeeper, a woman 10 years his senior! I asked if if wanted to immigrate him, and he said no, not for a long time, and that was that, or so I thought. Immigration Canada is HORRIBLE, having lost all his paperwork applying to become a permanent resident, an then a citizen (you had to be a resident before applying for citizenship). It took him 8 years to finally get his citizenship...then he asked me if I would be willing to have his son move in with us...I was 28, but was still caught off guard...but how could I say no? Besides, I always wanted to be a dad, and a year later, I was, just not legally. It took years before I was able to legally adopt him as my own. He arrived here on his 9th birthday, fully aware of his dad’s relationship with me. All I can say is parenthood is the most rewarding, and the most heartbreaking thing anyone can do. I’m now a grandpa to two beautiful boys as well, which we spoil rotten...but if you’re thinking about having children?.....don’t think, just do it! Your life becomes beautifully chaotic, and a joyful chaos you can’t imagine living without every again. The day our son left home for collage, then marriage, was both the happiest, and most painful times of our lives. We did consider adoption, but when our son had twin boys shortly after starting university (he’s too much like his dad!), we suddenly had 2 babies to care for, as he got sole custody (she was a one night stand, and wanted nothing to do with the boys), we became their legal guardians, so our son could finish university (top of his class too, now an absolutely brilliant computer engineer making a fortune, thank god!) without worry or distraction. Now? We’re a family of 5 guys and one girl (our daughter-in-law, who’s parents abandoned her from birth, was never adopted, so we just call her our daughter, she’s such a lovely, beautiful girl, inside and out.... she is brilliant, and started university from all the grants she was offered, where she met our son). Now our grandkids live with their dad and his wife, be we still see them every day, we babysit as they both work FT...I just can’t let them go. From the second you hold them for the first time, children will melt your heart, and break it many, many times..so stop reading this, and start making babies (if yours straight, getting there is half the fun!).

[@sarahberkner]

I read most of your long comment but about your point at the beginning that "No amount of advice can prepare you for parenthood", it's true that you can't be 100% prepared, but even that is advice in itself that parents should know so I think you would agree that not all advice is bad. Although it would be annoying to receive a lot of it as they did, and Tom and B'Elanna aren't necessarily great at receiving feedback.

[@Brvnkaerv]

They should name her; Alexandria Ocasio-Torrez.

[@Tmccreight25Gaming]

Handy Capo Hahahaha, noice

[@hubertcalculus34]

Who the hell would let NEELIX be the godfather to anyone's child is beyond me!

[@johneguchi6937]

What was the baby's name it was a girl? Right

[@ariannaseguin5929]

Miral

[@jamesfry8983]

not long after tuvok was found floating on the wrong side of an airlock with a note reading ah hell no not more time with that annoying human

[@dorourke105]

3:27 really dude?

[@hefito3d527]

i am daddy again and Gail Bireline sent me this she is pregnant with my baby

[@DrBiBeatz]

HEFITO 3D salamandras babies part 2 😂

[@buffcwbuff9879]

Ugh Blanna is a lot.

[@insaneapples1559]

How can anyone be a godfather in this century. There is no religion.

[@tessajalloh3914]

Secularization doesn't necessarily destroy familial and communal traditions. Just takes the mysticism out and makes it more personal.

[@theAverageJoe25]

insaneapples I mean technically the Q’s are Gods

[@DarianHarder]

Religion isn’t totally gone. The Bajorans are religious, as are the Klingons.

[@FrauIndian]

Klingons believe in an after life. And Vulcans believe in the Katra, a living soul which can be disconnected when the death of one of their folks is near. (See Sarek talking to Kirk in ST3 MOVIE.). And BAJORANS are spiritual and have their wormwhole prophets.

[@timriggins70]

Hinduism still existed in TNG.