Understanding Power, Corruption, Politics, AI, Religion, Tribalism & Free Speech | Sam Harris

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Join me for a conversation that is going to push some buttons and shine light on the realities of society, social media and the current human condition. From his viral TED Talk to his controversial takes on religion, Sam Harris is renowned for his work in philosophy, neuroscience, and atheism, making you rethink everything you thought you knew.
Together, we dive into the heart of our current sociopolitical climate, power, corruption, religion and free speech. We raise piercing questions about media influence, echo chambers, and the rising tide of conspiracy theories. Can we stop the rising wave of irrationality and evil? And what role does consensus play in our understanding of major events?
This episode invites you to consider the role of information overload and social media dynamics in shaping our worldviews. Become part of the discussion as we unpack the complex layers of today's society.
We uncover the breakdown of sensemaking and the urgent need for consensus is imperative in understanding and responding aptly to major events. It's an eye-opening examination you won't want to miss.
Watch the full episode to discover the one actionable takeaway that will help you navigate the complexities of the modern world, a revelation you cannot afford to miss. Are you ready to step out of your echo chamber and confront reality head-on? Tune in as we specifically unpack why:
- Twitter is the wrong place for useful conversation.
- The truth is no longer the truth and our trust in experts has been shattered.
- Freedom of Speech Under Fire: Is Our Right to Speak Up Facing Extinction?
- Unmasking the 2024 Election Deepfake Dilemma is a High Priority
- Cliffhanger Clips: Fueling the Fire of Partisan Warfare
SAM HARRIS QUOTES THAT MAKE SENSE:
"The Internet is big enough and friction free enough such that you can be a complete lunatic who everyone knows is a complete lunatic. And yet you create an ecosystem that enough people love. And you can figure out how to monetize it. You can have an audience of a million people forever”
“Freedom of speech and freedom of reach are different things”
“We’re getting people so anti-establishment that they are effectively lunatics in positions of real power.”
“Science is deeply flawed and yet is better than any other part of culture with respect to how we play this game of just letting ideas collide against one another.”
“I didn't see a benefit to my staying there. It's just the wrong space in which to try to have a conversation….”
“They don't really care what their enemy has said or meant to say. What they want to do is they want to hold them to the worst possible interpretation of what they said and make that stick.”
“You should be able to be as wrong as you want to be, but we don't have to algorithmically boost those errors.”
We should be very wary of being driven by tribalism.”
“There's almost nothing you can say about Trump that is true and awful that his supporters care about.”
“We're going to recognize that the Internet is completely broken and we just don't know what's real.”
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[@TomBilyeu]

WARNING: I will never ask for your contact info in the comments section, that is someone impersonating me! Impact Theory:

[@TUBBSBRIGHT]

DId you give notorious slow-talker Sam Harris a little 1.06x speed boost in post or am I imaging things?

[@MrJohn8032000]

any one that pays for this should look into mental health themselves, thank god for Twitter, hey tom, heres a lil tip if your guest says the Hunter biden laptop he doesnt know, , you stop the Program, an search for a net, or at least spend 10 mins with goggle showing this supposed smart man Harris, an obvious TDs sufferer, what is really up, an you wonder why the Chinese are beating us , this, 3 hours of sucking this guy off an no follow up questions, nothing no mater what he said good God

[@JoanneGuelke]

The problem with this calm exchange between Tom and Sam (check out from 1:44:37 minutes) that it’s normalizing the tyrannical measures that are no doubt coming with the next big pandemic launch. On December 16, 2021 - A multidisciplinary team from the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security developed, from 2015-17, a fictional narrative scenario, The SPARS Pandemic 2025-2028: A Futuristic Scenario for Public Health Risk Communicators, to illustrate the communication challenges that could erupt around the development and distribution etc. (look it up! There is a whole report on it - just like Agenda 21 was a run through of a COVID pandemic months ahead of it starting - go figure?!) I think Sam read that report or he’s invested in the tests and treatments which will be a big cash cow just like Covid has been for a few. Because Sam’s predictions are right out of that report. That means industry and their owned governments are preparing for how to handle the non compliers in the next pandemic. You can’t predict pandemics unless you are causing them. We are so dumbed down in school we have no idea what human and environmental health look like. The financial conflicts of interest are insane in all this. Sam is coming across with the same arrogance, ignorance and psychopathy as Bill Gates - like their sold their souls to the devil. He’s also trying to keep this “listen to the experts” absurdity on life support. Remove yourself and your kids from big industry whether it’s their food, their medicine, their schooling or their media. And use their technology in moderation. Tom has to tow the line to stay on this platform but he’s rich enough he could do something on his own. Get Owen Benjamin to break down Sam’s interview for your audience - that would help get back the people you might be losing from this Sam interview. Hope that’s your legacy and not interviews like this. How about instead of forced jabs or quarantines instead they shut down all the large companies like Walmart, Amazon and Cost’co and only allow small, local businesses to thrive that are selling fresh, nutrient dense foods? Mandate that people get outside and move around and care for their neighbors?

[@rostamr4096]

@@TUBBSBRIGHT Sam Harris is the most significant thinker of our time.

[@TUBBSBRIGHT]

@@rostamr4096 Yup, but he's admitted on a pair of occasions that he's a slow talker.

[@nicolasbenson009]

I am trying to avoid making any new buys at this point in other not to get sucked into a bear market trap.It's tough making money in stocks when institutional investors are the driving force behind the selling.. although I read an article of people that grossed profits up to $150k during this crash, what are the best stocks to buy now or put on a watchlist?

[@SandraDave.]

Focus on two key objectives. First, stay protected by learning when to sell stocks to cut losses and capture profits. Second, prepare to profit when the market turns around.I recommend you seek the guidance a broker or financial advisor.

[@jjphenom2831]

I really am not able to follow Sams arguments 1:46.30 - how can you change all parameters and hypothetically make a safe and effective vaccination against a more deadly virus that kills kids and not expect the reaction or acceptance to it to be different as well. This way you can make anyone who has ever been hesitant about any medical intervention look completely unreasonable. I do not want my broken arm to be amputated. This does not mean that an amputation cannot be reaonable under completely different circumstances. So in what way does this hypothetical make any relevant point?

[@archstanton3430]

The important point here is that Sam is right, and we're a bunch of rubes for not agreeing with him.

[@jjphenom2831]

@@archstanton3430 I don't really think that this was the point he was trying to make with this hypothetical. I had the impression here as well as on another podcast where he pretty much said the same thing that he was trying to make another point.

[@m74d3]

His point was pretty simple actually. His point was merely that people who say they're ideologically opposed to vaccine mandates (not just the covid mandates, but are ideologically opposed to all vaccine mandates *on principle* as an infringement on individual freedom), are not thinking things through, not being honest, or some combination of both. His point is merely that, if you're being intellectually honest, you can imagine a scenario in which the details are such that the intuitions of these anti-mandate people would immediately flip and they'd be all for mandates. This has nothing to do with covid or covid mandates - it's more of a general rebuttal to those who say they're against vaccine mandates on principle.

[@m74d3]

Because there are people that are implying that their reaction *wouldn't* be different even if all the parameters changed. That's logically implied by them saying they're against vaccine mandates on principle as a government infringement on individual rights. His point here has nothing to do with covid or covid mandates - he's speaking specifically about those who claim they're against mandates on principle, and how that viewpoint can't stand up to scrutiny. I think you think he was trying to use that to claim "therefore they were wrong about covid mandates," but he said nothing like that, nor does he believe it. He's been consistently against covid vaccine mandates from the start (just not against the vaccines themselves)

[@troyboy811]

​@@m74d3 Then what logically follows from this moronic hypothetical is that you cannot oppose any government control or intervention because there is a potential doomsday scenario in some hypothetical future where that control would be potentially advantageous. The "logic" Sam tries to use in this hypothetical is exactly the logic every single totalitarian dictator has used to justify their human rights abuses. "If I don't have X power, then Y catastrophe will happen." I also don't grant his fake premise either. It is true that there is a large portion of vaccine skeptics that would flip and turn to the "vaccines should be mandatory" side in Harris' hypothetical, but there are still plenty of people who would not. If you do not hold principles that you would eventually die to protect, then you don't actually hold those principles. Would you cheat on your significant other for $1,000? How about 1 trillion? Now because some people might change their minds based on the difference between those two numbers, there's no one on the planet who wouldn't? It's bad logic and it becomes even more asinine when the scenario presented is so far removed from what happened in real life.

[@LawrenceAugust_]

"Finally, I would remind you to notice where the claim of consensus is invoked. Consensus is invoked only in situations where the science is not solid enough. Nobody says the consensus of scientists agrees that E=mc2. Nobody says the consensus is that the sun is 93 million miles away. It would never occur to anyone to speak that way." ~ Michael Crichton

[@michiganman2577]

Lawrence, you said exactly what I was in the process of formulating in my mind. My intuition is to be suspicious of consensus precisely because it's not needed in cases where the facts are substantiated.

[@i.ehrenfest349]

That’s an optical thing, because although of course there is much less diversion of opinion the more exact a science is, and nothing is more exact than mathematics and secondly mathematical physics, even there there is definitely a difference of opinion. Before Einstein nobody would have said that Newton’s laws were incorrect. But they actually were, even if only fractional. Quantum mechanics is far from “resolved” and there are differing interpretations of it, although the Copenhagen Interpretation is the most popular one. There is no certainty, no scientific finding that can never be challenged.

[@pocket83squared]

​@@i.ehrenfest349 Agreed. There is no such thing as scientific consensus. This tension is built-in to science's structure. But on the gloomier side, I'm reminded of John Locke's writing something about how "children and idiots" will never give assent. Even in the generally calm waters of scientific process, where we still expect to see a few waves from uncertainty, we will also find the occasional nutcase who's rocking a boat with some far-flung interpretation of the statistical data: mind over matter, Chiropractic subluxation, fat people can still be healthy, intelligent design, and so on and et cetera; not all 'research' gets cast with the same empirical scrutiny. Of those who've endured some formal science training, very few of them will admit to finding our present climate-warming projections specious or unfounded. Probably fewer still are those who'd disagree with natural selection, as it is now regarded as established fact. Yet the 'debate' somehow rages on within these topics, as if all participants were presenting models of commensurate likelihood. The Michael Crichton quote is cute, but ultimately misleading. "Science" will never, by its nature, become "solid." Neither will it ever accept a finalized state, nor an authority. Even our scientific laws remain open, indefinitely, to becoming superseded by new, deeper, further encompassing models.

[@Malt454]

@@i.ehrenfest349 - Exactly; before Galileo, who would have questioned whether Aristotle was right about objects falling in proportion to their mass? Who did question it or should have?

[@i.ehrenfest349]

@@Malt454 Every new era thinks it’s immune to the mistakes of earlier times. It’s a pity.

[@roncarvalho]

"Two weeks to flatten the curve" was: 1) a blatant lie or 2) ignorance about the virus early on?

[@trevorkokenge2664]

If it wasn't a blatant lie, the leadership is retarded.

[@latentsea]

Step 16 in a 45 step plan. Demic

[@Dan0TheMano]

It was a lie

[@dave9547]

Plan demic

[@chrisdawes7270]

Not ignorance , ignore-science, it was settled before... they were wrong on every count and now they need to go to jail and REFUND vaccine payments

[@TheZGALa]

Lying or deceiving, even "for your own good" errodes trust.

[@CRWeaventure]

Which makes it especially odd that so many people still trust Tucker Carlson

[@TheZGALa]

@@CRWeaventure Or any newscasters or mainstream doctors!

[@StriderAngel496]

it's funny how all these Elites think they can lie to people because "people are too stupid to do the right thing if they knew the truth", while proving how incompetent and ideologically driven they are. Honestly, direct democracy might go better at this point than this! The average human on the planet is not as stupid as the Elites are now!

[@rerrer3346]

@@CRWeaventureis that you Sam?

[@Phoenix51291]

Right, incidentally a man named Sam Harris wrote a whole book about not lying

[@ianhamilton639]

That was disappointing.. Sam is guilty of doing everything he was arguing against, literally as he was arguing them.. At 2:10 he even admitted willful ignorance, used honesty + fear as his justification, then continued on with his opinion and bashing everyone else for doing the same thing.. Hes a good talker, but in 3 hirs you start to see how he uses nuance and empathy to his advantage and argues straw men. not much different than every other person who thinks their fears/views/beliefs/tribe are correct and everybody else is wrong and stupid. Same ol

[@TheCuriousCorrespondent]

It's the nature of tribal thinking to believe that's ones own community has all the answers. In a true Democracy...We have very few overarching rules...people make up their own mind instead of just following the appointed leaders who may change next year.

[@asdf-bm4df]

2:10 he "admitted"? not himself, he was talking about the dogmatic masses who buy into the allegations of election theft without having demanded proof. You're not equipped to watch these talks I fear. But atleast you got a few votes by the sheep he described at 2:10

[@HANDBALLDIEHARD]

Hes a shill for fake news and his political party and very transparent about it. Sad how many waste thought on these clowns .

[@AK-ne4og]

THIS!!!

[@LawrenceAugust_]

1:01:50 Please tell me why we should believe Jake Tapper, Sam? How do we know he's not just wanting to protect his own interests? Maybe HE's the liar?

[@angieconlan8427]

I thought the same thing! Who has more to lose?

[@smoozerish]

I'm an engineer. I can't imagine designing without the full facts or making up facts to fit my design. If I did, I wouldn't last very long in my job. Unfortunately, in the world of politics, facts are an afterthought.

[@peterthegreat996]

Politics and engineering are as far apart as you can get . Political thinking is not scientific and never will be. You can never make predictions about politics like engineering. You can have 20:20 hindsight but that is it. You simply not model economic and political stuff .

[@Saeder]

Great conversation! Thank you for letting Sam talk uninterrupted. You're a fantastic host!

[@bobf5360]

1:19:26. The problem Tom, is we ALREADY did that. We already had years of public debate, in scientific journals, spent literally millions of dollars in research trying to find a link between vaccines and autism, and it just isnt there. Replaying that debate just so those who chose not to engage in it the first time doesn't mean you get a new understanding, you just get wasted time. People who are not convinced by data will never be convinced, but that doesn;t mean we should continue to entertain their believes in public discourse.

[@davidlwweatherford4768]

Yeah, Sam really buried himself here. Does he have any self awareness?

[@sophiadelacruz6851]

At this pt what is Sam Harris saying that is able to be considered well thought out, helpful, or credible perspective.? I very been listening to him and there is an obvious ignorance seemingly stemming from a lack of wisdom and self awareness to his own God forbid) flawed thinking that he presents himself as pretty far from intellectual.

[@guirongo]

@@davidlwweatherford4768serious questions: what does this comment mean and how does it relate to the original comment of letting Sam talk?

[@nimahnkrissy]

@@bobf5360LIAR

[@jimiellis6060]

"it's deeply inconvenient for someone like me , in a moment like this to have to recognize , some of these conspiracies to be true. "

[@jimiellis6060]

@Vlasko60 That could be true my friend, but credible evidence doesn't always turn out to be true either, like Sam stating that vaxed people could not transmit to others, which turned out false. Sam isn't infallible, although I love most of his thinking ;)

[@paddydiddles4415]

Vaccine hesitancy began, and was increasingly sustained alongside the reality of what covid was proving to be, and not alongside the fantasy that Sam is describing. If in reality it was much worse, then there would have been much less hesitancy

[@Dan0TheMano]

I wasn’t vaccine hesitant before Covid. Now, after doing a lot of research, we’re not going to vaccinate our baby with many of these shots. The corruption and rot is as awful as the garbage science they use.

[@sandcastledx]

Except for the fact that most people who didn't get vaccines believed things that weren't true. There are some skeptics who don't lie but there aren't many

[@MeMe-lm9bm]

I love freedom of speech, I love the freedom to live free or die, and I will never fall in the camp where you make the decision for me.

[@jenniferannison4390]

Well said! Sam seems to think that he knows all the differences between information and misinformation. He lives in an arrogant bubble.

[@ddhqj2023]

You are describing Republicans perfectly. @@jenniferannison4390

[@reinforcedpenisstem]

So Guiliani deprived you

[@jordanbeaudoin8425]

Sad that it took me 5 month to get around to listening to this one. Cool conversation. Sam's nuance and rationality are what is really necessary to civil discourse these days.

[@rorypotatochip1373]

Straight to trump just minutes in Give me a break

[@bluesrocker33]

TDS is real

[@mountainair]

Is he not running for president again? Does he not have a personality cult around him?

[@dawid_dahl]

Tom, thank you for not interrupting too often, and being a good listener. Great improvements from previous years! 🙏🏻

[@dawid_dahl]

@@MaiNaime-pk6hq I was actually sincere, and I meant what I said. Hard to fathom these days, I know…

[@bobf5360]

I just don't get the Founding Fathers worship. They were humans, they were faulty, a lot of their ideas were stupid, just like every other group of humans. Tom seems to deify them in some way, a lot like the originalists.

[@deanwaters5860]

This was the first time I heard Tom interview and thought he was awful. Mentioned the word I way too many times being that he is an interviewer, apparently. Couple this with the fact he just kept going round in circles without really saying anything's just came off as a poor interviewer. Maybe starstruck and wanted to try and impress Sam, I'll never know,. If this is an improvement on previous interviews, I'll thank you for saying so and duly decline to go back and watch any. Just my lowly opinion......

[@endoalley680]

@@bobf5360 Our founding fathers came up with a system which is yet to be bested. Not perfect. But it has had a robustness to remain relevant and highly functional during many different historical times. the How would you personally improve our constitution?

[@andrewmanford]

LoL@@endoalley680

[@Citizen_J]

Sam truly is a king of mental gymnastics. Even in his wildly precise hypothetical, mandating and enforcing said mandate of a medical procedure still isn't justified. In his scenario, the vaccine is totally effective.... so what would anyone who got it have to worry about?

[@hrossaman]

Transparent terms of service are a whole lot different than what we saw in 2020-2022, which was direct political censoship

[@420Kyle1620]

"If we were living in an alternate timeline where my stances on covid were correct, then I'd be correct." - Sam '4xJabbed' Harris

[@user-ke4xe4fz3t]

He was referring to his stances on the reaction taken toward Covid but that obviously went over your head

[@420Kyle1620]

@@user-ke4xe4fz3t Sweden.

[@tobymonger7884]

So cool and original 🤡

[@420Kyle1620]

@@tobymonger7884 Elaborate.

[@hosa429]

Hey Sam, are your boosters up to date?

[@psylocyn]

Interviewer guy “I independently invented the scientific method” also this guy, was 100% taught the scientific method several times by the end of high school.

[@AnnaMishel]

Experts often have their own agenda!

[@lilytea3]

0:00: 😕 The inability to agree on facts and the erosion of trust in institutions have contributed to the rise of evil and the breakdown of the sense-making apparatus in society. 14:39: 📚 The speaker discusses the erosion of credibility in experts and the challenges of determining what is true in an information-saturated environment. 29:55: 🗣 The discussion revolves around the challenges of free speech and the role of social media platforms in moderating content. 44:35: 🎙 Sam Harris discusses the responsibility of platforms to de-platform individuals like RFK Jr who spread false information, particularly about vaccines causing autism. 59:40: 🧪 The conversation discusses the importance of scientific consensus and the need for experts in fields such as medicine and climate science. 1:14:55: 🗣 The discussion revolves around the challenges of having productive conversations in an information landscape where biases and misinterpretations can distort the truth. 1:30:02: 📢 Sam Harris discusses the challenges of engaging with people on social media platforms and the behavior of certain individuals, including Elon Musk and Alex Jones. 1:52:21: 🗣 The conversation around controversial topics should be allowed to run long enough and be uncoerced so that better ideas can surface and misinformation can be sidelined. 2:00:46: 🗣 Sam Harris discusses the importance of expertise, institutions, and regulations in making informed decisions and ensuring the reliability of information. 2:16:16: 🤔 Sam Harris discusses the potential impact of talking about the laptop and Trump's behavior on the election. 2:31:45: 🗣 The speaker discusses the potential impact of AI-generated fake information on our society, including the need for responsible behavior from influential individuals like Elon Musk and Joe Rogan. 2:48:15: 📚 The speaker discusses the lack of a unifying philosophy in society and the need for a moral anchor like Marcus Aurelius or religious texts to guide individuals towards ethical engagement and compassion. 3:05:41: 🤔 Sam Harris discusses the limitations of traditional religious texts and the potential risks of AI alignment. 3:22:26: 🗣 The conversation discusses the potential impact of advanced technology and misinformation on society. Recap by Tammy AI

[@kjnoah]

Amazing to see such an intelligent man get it so wrong.

[@GenkiDamaSSJ]

You mean right?

[@kjnoah]

@@GenkiDamaSSJ No, I am actually quite sad for Sam, he has become a mockery over the last four years. Hopefully he gets his ego in check and realizes what he has been doing.

[@GenkiDamaSSJ]

@@kjnoah what's an example of something he said in this podcast that makes you feel that way? Please give the time stamp

[@Robdobalina]

Sam is an absolute clown

[@malachi-]

@@kjnoah Do you really believe his beliefs have just got off course? Because it is obvious that he is on a specific side, and works specific agendas that have nothing to do with logical thinking.

[@jonathanhijlkema8247]

Honestly a bit disappointed in Harris' take one RFK junior. If he has such a strong opinion on the subject he should be able to debate him and "debunk" his claims. If he cant do that, he shouldn't make such absolute statements. Having absolute certainty about a subject you don't know much about, is akin to religion and is simply anti scientific. Apealing to authority is one of the weakest and most lazy arguments and usually it involves cherrypicking. Acusing RFK of hyperbolic statements I haven't heard him mention, while excusing yourself for not being able to quote the guy, isn't very flattering either. In my personal opinion vaccines are great and so are the scientists that developed them, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't scrutinize a billion dollar industry that makes money on healthcrises, and on which we depend immensely in our everyday lives. Nor does it mean every vaccine will always be perfect or even safe. Medicine always involves certain risks, and as a result should be scritinized. To just go with the flow and take the mainstream opinion is easy, what RFK does on the other hand is really really tough and difficult. So as a intelectual, you could at least show some intellectual curiosity and respect towards someone that fights against mainstream bias and pressure, takes on a immensely powerful industry and does appearently such a good job that nobody dares to debate him, and people rather see him censored. The man does seems emotionally invested I agree, but that doesn't mean he is by definition wrong. Also the argument that RFK is just a lawyer and an activist, not a scientist in the field, so he should just stfu, is really really weak. It should only make taking him on and beating him in the scientific debate more easily done, and not doing so makes the oposing views on the subject even weaker. If the science is decisive on this subject free speech will eventually figure it out. Censorship only benefits power and it halts progress. If it were up to any manufacturer that is on top right now, all innovation would stop, so they could just use their current tech to print money forever. And its no different for other corporations with a profit incentive.

[@shannonkoepfler6028]

Well said. I've heard RFK repeatedly say he's not 100% certain on things, but he is certain that some things need looked at much more closely. He is very transparent and honest about where he gets his information from, and literally asks to be corrected if he's wrong. This is not something I hear from any of the people that claim a multitude of ridiculous reasons to justify not allowing RFK a platform to speak from. In reality, we know the real reason they refuse is because they are afraid he is right, and they can't accept being wrong and/or being rejected from their "tribe" for losing in a debate with him (or for even just allowing one to happen, since that alone can get one cancelled, these days). Pathetic, really. If he's so wrong and is misinforming so many people, shouldn't they be clamoring at the opportunity to disprove him and set the record straight so they can save us from believing his lies, and thus, save society from wrong think?

[@MichaelDavis-cy4ok]

THIS.

[@softcolly8753]

Most hive arguments seem to revolve around appeal to authority and strawman arguments. "RFK isn't an expert on vaccines", no but he does employ people who are.

[@tpage8051]

Man, great job pushing back in a fair way on some of the nuances. This is a model for how people should interview.

[@Henrydingus01123]

I liked that too. The worst push back offerer is Bill Maher by far. When Bill disagrees with you it’s like you called his mother dirty whore.

[@diciplineisfreedom8384]

Sam Harris can't see why people like Alex Jones or Tucker Carlson 😂😂😂 some people are entertaining unlike you with that mono toned delivery 🤔

[@mc9723]

​@@diciplineisfreedom8384This guy nailed it! Some idiots just want to be entertained, not informed! Well said

[@luiseszi]

Great conversation! Absolutely loved it! I thank you both ❤

[@followjeff]

The problem with Sam is he always needs to be right.

[@benjaminford1863]

He has an obligation to his listeners to try.

[@jakemitchell9853]

Wanting to be correct as frequently as possible is a function of truthfulness.

[@Dan0TheMano]

He thinks he’s smarter than everyone else. He’s not.

[@ubertrashcat]

I had no idea who Tom Bilyeu was but thanks to the comment section I do now, thanks.

[@TUBBSBRIGHT]

I think I know what you mean, I wasn't expecting them to trash my boy Sam here.

[@alibabaschultz352]

@@TUBBSBRIGHT To be fair, most of the hate spewed at Harris comes from a small minority of maybe a few thousand people that stalk him and gang up in comment sections, in order to look bigger.

[@TUBBSBRIGHT]

@@alibabaschultz352 Sadly true of a lot of comments on the Internet

[@brandondelcox8065]

@@alibabaschultz352sounds good but I don’t think so. The troll army he talks about on the right is laughable compared to the ideological left. Who you’re seeing comments are regular people fed up with the Marxist push.

[@robinbackrud89]

@@alibabaschultz352 I hope that's the case because this comment section - this echo chamber of lack of reason and lazy counter arguments - is mind boggling.

[@mybootscamewithoutstraps]

There are few interviews Tom has done that I don't enjoy them. Boy oh boy was Sam someone I never wanna hear from again because he comes off like he should be someone I listen to, but there's so much garbage that comes out of his mouth that ultimately equates to nothing that I had to turn this off 1/3 of the way through. Sam seems so weirdly disconnected en yet way too connected at once.

[@msninanine]

Tom I love your curiosity and your persistence to seek the truth. I appreciate all your discussions and point of view to varying topics Love your podcast! Both yours and Lisa’s. What you both are doing with impact theory is truly inspiring 💙🩷

[@malachi-]

Script?

[@justanothernick3984]

I haven't listened to TB podcast in a long time but I'm going to give it some time. My suspicion is that it's alternative media going for attention by lifting contentious topics which is why it's interesting but that also means it's a big part of spreading alternative values and it's going to be an exciting journey. But I don't think it's a search for truth. I listen in order to know how to tackle misinformation more than to just eat what I get served. Thought provoking but in the end, mere entertainment. And I'm guessing some conspiracy theories, just based on the list of guests I see in the video catalogue.

[@andrewscott7907]

Usually your guests know some things. This guy depends on "authorities' or "science' without naming or showing references. If he can sideline RK Junior because same is not a Scientist....so what gives this dude superior knowledge?? Thanks Tom.

[@dalethomasdewitt]

@@justanothernick3984 nothing has changed. You still have to weigh obeying orders, research. Thinking in general thinks through and perceives as understanding evolves. No training wheels are needed and seeing misinformation up close is subject to the ultimate arbiter understanding. Trust never died.

[@justanothernick3984]

@@dalethomasdewitt That might be clear as day to you but I don't understand what you trying to tell me. If you could break it down for me so I can have something to think about at least.

[@charlesbarkley1340]

Sam - jack dorsey should delete Twitter and win the Nobel peace prize… Sam - I’m starting my own social media through my app which I have control of the conversation… broooo

[@vanessa1569]

Yeah, that was just excellent wasn’t it? 🤣 I reckon he’d pretty much let everything go within the bounds of the law.

[@alibabaschultz352]

Whats the problem?

[@charlesbarkley1340]

@@alibabaschultz352 Sam is only comfortable with conversations he deems acceptable and or agrees with, he is a tyrant at heart which seeks to control the narrative, simply listen to what he’s saying not that hard too see

[@jayknight139]

It was a red flag when Sam had such negative views on Tate, then followed that up by saying that he had not really looked that deep in to the situation. I feel like he is a bit disconnected from reality.

[@alextes]

Tom is so on point here for me. Both in how he doubts he knows what’s best for others, and therefore how far we should go to keep them from their choice (eg Trump) and the questions he drives around the dangers of authoritarianism. Love it, keep going!

[@stargazerh112]

Sam is delusional

[@alibabaschultz352]

How so?

[@stargazerh112]

@@alibabaschultz352 he is either delusional or dishonest. The means he is going through to defend his positions on COVID and against people like Brett Weinstein. He either knows he was wrong about COVID and vaccines and is attempting to save face; or he is delusional.

[@alibabaschultz352]

@@stargazerh112 Bret Weinstein has lost all credibility. And Trump never had any. I have some advice. Dont get all of your information from youtube gurus.

[@MigsNJ]

I used to greatly value Sam Harris’ opinions and takes on current issues, but he has really lost me with his views on issues of free speech.

[@trevorkokenge2664]

His TDS vaccine got to his brain.

[@junimeme5626]

Which views exactly?

[@kennethgriffin5761]

@@junimeme5626 that healthy 20 year old males should be coerced by the government get the pfizer vaccine

[@MomoAfterDark]

Sam Harris is such a hack now. I remember when I actually respected him as an intellectual.

[@JosephHurtsellers]

He's a pathetic creep. Honestly if they just could ever release that log from Epson Island...

[@alrdye]

"Sam and I used to agree but at some point one of us changed their mind and the other didn't... therefore Sam is a hack." Brillirant reasoning. With a staggering intellect like that, you really ought to be the next guest on this podcast.

[@MomoAfterDark]

@@alrdye That's not my reasoning and that's not what I said. You fail basic English. And I'd actually be an excellent guest on this podcast.

[@annettelouise6781]

Fantastic discussion actually looking to find solutions.

[@julzee111]

I’ll tell you how. There are some of us that saw the videos before they disappeared. We understand exactly what went on. To be frank, I’m trying to figure out your motivation. Funny, because today I was listening to a podcast about narcissists, and a key indicator is that they accuse you of doing the very thing they’re guilty of.

[@i.ehrenfest349]

Like you are doing?

[@livenotbylies4312]

But she's not, so there's that. @@i.ehrenfest349

[@livenotbylies4312]

I agree. Sam Harris takes no consideration for the hundreds of hours of video footage from Jan. 6th that millions of Americans saw first hand which no doubt he would never be bothered with watching, then claims people didn't have facts. He's great at gaslighting all of the poll watchers and poll workers who testified before panels on the election fraud they witnessed. His intellectualism is blinding his wisdom.

[@shantishanti1949]

@@i.ehrenfest349I agree 3 hours of hate speech. Apparently “Those people” all 40 % of them are tin foil hatters.

[@Mike-bh9vs]

How convenient your understanding is clear and complete and anyone that you disagree with just understands less. That's not a convincing argument, next to no one knows what's going on and just playing the odds neither you, me, or the rest of us really know. hence the need to trust experts and consensus. Not perfect but every other option is worse.

[@tehehe4all]

Sam: “It’s amazing to me how people don’t care about Trump’s hypocrisy…” Sam still doesn’t quite know what “hypocrisy” is to understand he also doesn’t care about his own hypocrisy

[@johnbuckner2828]

He also seems to completely ignore the fact that Hillary and party labeled the president illegitimate & fought the peaceful transfer of power for four straight years. If he’s unconcerned about that, then he is being hypocritical imo.

[@michaelneufeld4515]

Can not both Sam and Trump be hypocritical?

[@johnbuckner2828]

@@michaelneufeld4515 yes. The way I remember it, Trump has been claiming U.S. elections were rigged since 2012… he said it when he ran against Hillary, but then he won so it wasn’t rigged. But then Hillary said it was rigged, and now we’re back to trump. everyone seems irrational and hypocritical these days, even Sam, Who seems to believe it’s good for the FBI to censor and interfere with democracy to preserve democracy.

[@johnbuckner2828]

@@michaelneufeld4515 And Rachel Maddow just recently said that if Trump is elected this time, he’ll be president for life; and I’m sure that’ll catch fire, & everyone who identifies with a D will swear up and down that The election was somehow rigged or unfair, and that democracy is officially over forever. It’s almost becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy.

[@michaellabbe2873]

Tell us about Sam’s hypocrisy.

[@USmetallist]

10:57 FALSE EQUIVALENCY and Argument of Authority 😢 Falacies at this time stamp WTF Sam 😢

[@diabl2master]

You really dont need to cut every 5 seconds. It's a 3.5 hour podcast. Anyone who clicks has chosen a 3.5h video. They want to settle in. Let us settle in! Also, at the start it felt like we got dropped in at the middle of a conversation with no context.

[@momofthreeboys3133]

The only idea that is good is Sam Harris’ ideas. How anyone w a brain sits through this w no pushback is incredible.

[@chesurow]

Sam is great, but he really pisses me off sometimes. He intentionally pivots off the point at hand to avoid allowing things to come to the natural, logical conclusion.

[@malachi-]

Yes, that's his job, to play you.

[@susannegionet4355]

Tom! I love the interview.... you got to let him talk.

[@sama3033]

He does love the sound of his own voice.

[@Holmis93]

Thank God for Sam Harris 🙏 One of the few people left in the world who is actually trying to be Honest, logical and rational. And most of all Ethical and Moral. Its so crazy that so many people seem to dislike him at this moment. Clearly alot of people are loosing their minds, because Sam Harris is actually one of the few who is truly trying to be honest and good, without being a victim of Audience Capture and Tribilism. Very much appreciated 👌

[@brandondelcox8065]

He’s a thought leader that would lead us straight into tragedy. Good intentioned tragedy.

[@Julian-xs8nc]

This has to be sarcasm

[@drewjonespdx]

This episode is a great case study if projection from sam

[@UNKLELUKE86]

"No opinions or questions are allowed!!!" ~Sam Harris

[@livenotbylies4312]

Bingo! He's great at coming up with justification for taking people down who don't think like him because he believes they're not intellectually as capable as he.

[@ogdenreed]

@@livenotbylies4312actually very few people are intellectually as capable as he is... heck a third of the country not only still thinks trump won but think he was a great president who should be president again. Truly delusional.

[@livenotbylies4312]

@@ogdenreed Intellect is not wisdom. He believes elections should be rigged so his favoured personality wins. There's nothing intellectual about that. It's deceitful. What's delusional are those who look the other way to the Biden crimes, Obama crimes and Clinton crimes, then believe they have some moral authority over others. That's truly delusional.

[@hrossaman]

The pilot analogy sucks so bad I can't even handle it

[@chrism6764]

Very interesting. Great conversation. 3.5 hours felt like 20 minutes. 👍👍

[@jamesoneill7263]

Sam makes very simplistic comments, about the harsh reality that millions live through, as a direct result of government and institutional incompetence.

[@softcolly8753]

incompetence or corruption? I lean toward the latter.

[@kayakMike1000]

Why was it ok for Hillary to scream about the election being stolen but its not OK for Trump?

[@MFK1967]

You be dumb

[@russellwright3818]

I have read almost all of Sam Harris books, and love “The Moral Landscape”. I have no love of Trump. But, pathological certainty about the non existence of election meddling and the global cybersecurity issues around power broker elites is mind boggling naive of Sam. Almost as naive as his misunderstanding about the purpose of religion in creating moral framework narratives for cultural evolution. Sams ability to keep a straight face around the trump issue and his pathological certainty about what he perceives to be the true political narrative is as ironic as our merely two party system, which is no choice at all. I want the old Sam Harris back. The one who knows what a cognitive bias is.

[@nickw8071]

Could you imagine thinking main stream media (government) is the base for information. What a tool.

[@SandmanUSAFA]

Wow. Didn't realize Sam Harris was that delusional.

[@malachi-]

He got his orders from the higher-ups a while back, just goes to show how controlled they all really are, it's like they try to lead you in with some common sense, then when they think they have you trapped, they start feeding a bunch of craziness, it's called a cult.

[@joeybidster]

Sam says "Valid source of information".. That's not easy to determine Sam

[@SwopetheDope]

If you want to understand anything, Sam Harris is NOT your guy. He's lost the plot on reality-based thinking.

[@jasenlakic5033]

If Sam is one of the leading intellectuals / philosophers of our time, no wonder we are spiraling down as a civilisation...really sad. He is saying RFK is talking nonsense, lies etc while RFK won so many court cases with huge money involved based on that "nonsense". This guy is disconnected from reality or just taking a huge dump on the whole US justice system. Sure, RFK is not an epidemiologist, but he certainly has to know the matter and present the FACTS in court. In fact, it is so hard to even record a vaccine side effect, it is much harder to even win such a case in court due to having opponents with billions of dollars budget that, IF PEOPLE DO WIN IT IS BEYOND ANY SHADOW OF A DOUBT. Unreal how you gave so many minutes of this precious podcast to Sam's verbal diarrhea about RFK and vaccines. There are so many Sam blatant bshit moments I could point out, but I got things to do...thanks for your good work Tom - as always.

[@WEF2030SLAVE]

Sam turned in to a globohomo big pharma shill

[@ubuu7]

which court case on vaccines has he won?

[@StriderAngel496]

he said a lot of idiotic things in this. I truly don't understand what happened to him! On the bright side, you know how you know you're not in a cult? THIS... There are people here (like me) that liked Sam for YEARS. But when he starts saying stupid shit we don't "support and affirm" because "the right" told me so. We point out that he went full REEEE. So, at least we have that i guess... Not sure about much more though!

[@churblefurbles]

@@StriderAngel496 He was never ok, he was elevated by the regime to attack religion, A Walrus "The Curious case of Sam Harris" on here covers his early life and works, its dire, Emil Kirkegaard substack his scientific credentials, also dire.

[@7JeTeL7]

such an unique, non agressive-flashy-egoistic-clickbaity space for debate you created tom; i admire how you let speak, yet you calmly stand for yourself without need of constant interruption/reaction...this discussion especially hits my spot, since i am just in between both stances and its great, that both got their fair space! cannot believe i overlooked you channel; instant subscribe!

[@DEFITECK]

Thanks for this interview - I recognize that there is no need to follow him - jaw

[@silas1414]

Maybe the best ever performance by a Sam Harris interviewer. Toms relentless pursuit of clarity and understanding and dissection of the arguments was exceptional.

[@detroitredwings7130]

I used to listen to Sam Harris pretty regularly for years until he developed a serious case of TDS and im not even a giant fan of Trump. It's annoyingly arrogant and fairly petty. I guess nobody is immune to tribalism these days, unfortunately.

[@jvd3339]

Damn. I absolutely Love Tom's articulation of the Trump/Hunter Laptop/Small group dictating the outcome of the election. - I think its Exactly what A Lot of Americans think/feel about the situation. - And Harris' views just show how they'd Rationalize a Hitler-esque Totalitarian Dictatorship.

[@BighnicHnicBAWSESTATUS]

You mean Biden right? Prosecuting your political enemies and their entire legal team…. Exactly sounds like totalitarian dictatorship. I agree

[@scottsherman5262]

I think I understand what you're articulating here, but I'm also tilting my head to the side like a confused dog. When you say "...how they'd Rationalize...", are you referring to "The Left"? I've heard this, & it's just so odd to me. I personally think hyper-partisanship is what is wrong with our great country, & when I...someone who doesn't believe that Left & Right are even real things, as both sides have flipped on absolutely every single ideological issue, very much including big vs. small gov., gay rights, religious beliefs, racism, strong on crime, etc...every single issue that most people think define the Left & the Right, used to define the other side, without fail...many of this flipping having happened within the past decade alone. Sorry for the run-on sentence there, but even for me, I can clearly see that while yes, both sides can talk themselves into just about anything, it's the current Right that largely wants to do away with our system of representative democracy, in favor of forcing in their guy, & they utilize the same (well, related but not the same) flawed thinking that Sam is guilty of here, namely, being so convinced that avoiding situation X is THE most important thing, that it justifies doing the previously unthinkable & extinguishing what "conservatives" have said they love for decades now...our system of democracy, so that an authoritarian Trump can MAGA us to salvation. Our salvation will only come when we stop thinking, watching/reading, & talking about "politics" so much. When I was growing up (I'm 47 for reference), no one talked about how they voted, ever...it was considered a private thing. Now, the opposite is true. We have people tripping all over themselves to shout to the world "Hey, look at me!! I belong to this group!" by literally flying identifying flags from their porches & trucks. It reads as so personally weak to me...lacking the strength to stand on your own, to do your own critical thinking. We've instead largely traded in logic for a feeling of safety amongst our group. I think if far more people were made to understand that Left & Right are not things that exist, because both sides do nothing but trade positions (again, there is not even one single example of a position for which this is not the case) as it becomes socially advantageous for the given tribe, perhaps that would be the spark, but I doubt it, because it feels too good to blame the other side & think of yourself & your side as blameless & singularly correct, because you do your own research & actually think these things thru, while the other side are all either sheeple or actively part of the cabal conspiring to end America.

[@JayVee369]

I didn't read it as "The Left". But nowadays it seems as though it is The Left that are shadow banning, deplatforming Presidents, trying to jail political opponents, and screaming to shut down any conversation that hurts someone's feelings (typically on left feelings in the Alphabet community) - At the same time forcing alphabet agenda into school, business, and politics - While demonizing almost every rightwing fundamental, like God/Church, Freedom of Speech, 2A rights It is unfortunate that the US climate has become Hyper partisan. But it's Corrupt Government, and the shadow organizations (WEF, FBI, CIA) that are pushing it. Does it not seem like they want people fighting eachother to you?

[@Kreor-ww1xg]

​@@scottsherman5262- I mean, listen to Harris. Does that seem rational? Is he left or right?

[@Kreor-ww1xg]

​@scottsherman5262 - Idk about you, but I see 5 replies on the list here, but only 3 show. Is YT/Google Left or Right?

[@fernandosandoval4711]

How can. U. Believe Politicians & News Sources That. Constantly. Lie to us ?.?

[@n-km6780]

They have been proven to constantly lie

[@drkaushikt6926]

Chapters? Timestamps?

[@gregoryjules2005]

Listen to the whole thing

[@CatherineMurray-s9c]

After listening to this, I would not listen to Sam Harris as he has an agenda of what is worth knowing based on his point of view. I prefer to listen to people that are more open to entertaining different points of view and let the people that listen decide for themselves. He is part of the problem in mainstream media.

[@haniakj]

One topic related to the content in this video I have yet to hear investigated or reported thoroughly is the jab test kits that came out so quickly when the other test was discovered to be bunk. Now why aren't there test kits for every other type of virus or influenza stain that exist? Where has this 'breakthrough' in technology been previous years? Why aren't there ones available now? Shouldn't that be the first line of defense before considering how many 'mrna serums' will be produced in these new factories popping up everywhere? Another question I haven't heard explained is what did Moderna do before the c19 jabs that granted them money to develop a brand new product that will 'save' the world? Maybe you could look in to this or have a guest that might be able to explain? Much love.

[@kingech_B15]

Why everyone bias toward trump. Is he really that bad of a guy. or is he just too famous for politics. Ain't nobody talking about christie Chris...and Biden looks up and falls down. So what's really going on.

[@3369760230]

not everyone, just the misinformed and the haters

[@hamcheeselettucemayosandwich]

If you think trump is a moral person you are simply too far gone.

[@1AliasAlien]

Horrible, Sam should be ashamed of himself!

[@aminblm]

Loving the positive energy you bring, Tom! 🎙 #PositiveVibes #EnergyIsEverything

[@KritterRaw]

I've gotten to 13 minutes and really don't want to continue. Anyone watch this and feel like there is benefit to finishing it?

[@Ayyy_its_Wally]

Tons of value. Sam is one of the last remaining clear voices. You may not agree with his take on the topics, but to pretend there’s no value in listening to him would be a disservice to yourself.

[@KritterRaw]

@@Ayyy_its_Wally Thank you! This is really what I needed to hear.

[@jj-mcgreezies]

Sam is really one of the greatest thinkers of our time, I recommend you continue :)

[@softcolly8753]

TLDR: Strawman, appeal to authority, misrepresenting what people say (especially RFK). Drumpf bad.

[@spitfire5544]

Sam actually said "He (RFK) is way too open-minded".

[@westkraig]

Good bye Impact Therory. The current president has been a disaster for the entire world and weather and all this Californian can tall about is President Trump!👍🏽🇺🇸2024🇺🇸👍🏽

[@paddybar4758]

Facts. He’s admitted to lying about Trump. If he told me it was sunny outside I’d put my brolly up.

[@controllerbrain]

Time stamp?

[@myninja0001]

the timestamp doesn’t exist. he made it up

[@drewjonespdx]

“If people knew what I knew they’d have my opinion” holy fuck he was lobotomized 🤣

[@pocket83squared]

And if I had knowledge that was identical to yours, I'd hold precisely _your_ opinion. Don't take Harris out of context; consider that his entire body of work is predicated on an absence of freewill. In other words, remember that we are each the product of a specific blend of environmental, genetic, and otherwise material factors. Our opinion, and thus all of what it is that we think we "know," ends up being the result of this combination. Make no mistake: if you had lived exactly Harris' life and had exactly his genes, you _would_ have his opinion. Saying so is not just a tautology; it's also an empirically true statement with respect to causality. This guy is far from lobotomized. His seemingly outrageous claims are just on a different level.

[@drewjonespdx]

@@pocket83squared complete nonsense lol

[@pocket83squared]

@@drewjonespdx Exactly the reply I'd expect, except for the lack of emoji. Cool sunglasses, ace.

[@drewjonespdx]

@@pocket83squared it’s okay to be wrong. It’s okay to think you’re smart but suffering from dunning Kruger. Don’t be mad.. it’s just KZbin.

[@pocket83squared]

​@@drewjonespdx You are a cliché. Not only because you are bland enough to cite Dunning & Kruger without any consideration of irony; not only because your awareness of Dunning-Kruger rests upon the fact that it's become an overused meme; not only because you have barely any idea what I'm talking about, and you simply believe that I'm trying to impress you for the sake of vanity (even though I know that's not possible); and not only because you're predictable enough to've likely used the phrase 'pseudo-intellectual' in your next reply, had I not just now mentioned it; ~but because you are actually thinking in a wavelength that's low enough amplitude to believe that you can knock me down with a calm, empty dismissal. Perhaps it is my thoughts that are empty and my ego that is inflated, but that'd be my cross, not yours. As it appears here, I don't fit into your field of view. As such, I suggest you quietly return to your sit in front of Twitter & the local watering hole's gambling machine. Again, nice shades, big guy. 👍👍

[@susanswinny588]

Love Sam and Tom. Zoom out for the big picture! The focus hanging on every word is absurd!

[@carolgreenan2022]

I couldn't watch this past 10 minutes. I still love you Tom.

[@carlknepfler8976]

I feel like they danced around a key point that actually emerged as a result of their dialectic. Tom was saying that there should be no barriers to people saying what they want and circled back many times to the merit of free speech broadly. The problem is Sam mostly agrees with that. However he repeatedly drew the key distinction that the extent to which we cling to that must be on its legality. We do not need every space, or more specifically, every platform to give equal consideration to all views. Like Tom I was at first taken aback by this thinking it was inconsistent with, as Tom put it, “the tools” we got from Sam. Early in the conversation Tom takes about the ‘velocity of information’. This was a by product of how cheap it is to spread information in a digital world. Both of them expressed sentiment that more traditional journalism provided a useful barrier to things that were totally out of touch with reality being put in print. As Sam made the argument for why he felt he should not platform RFK or do a podcast about the Bidens laptop, i realized that this is completely analogous to such barriers discussed in more traditional journalism. Sam is advocating for freedoms of speech at a legal level. And downstream of that podcasts like his and Tom’s are part of a marketplace for ideas. In the same way different newspapers and magazines can chose to run stories based on their journalistic integrity, the validity of the story, etc. podcasts and people with platforms in general can make that distinction. That’s their responsibility. That no more makes them an opponent to free speech than a news outlet that chooses not to run a story about alien abduction that the national inquirer runs. Tom’s says these other posts of view could be right, and that’s true, but so could the inquirer. Having a marketplace of ideas is the the key. This is the essence of free inquiry and part of that is individual nodes in the network signal boosting the things that they feel worthy. It’s in the aggregate and the freedom for other nodes to cover the totality of all ideas that we get the full benefit of free speech.

[@Kira-qc4qi]

I want you to know that I read your entire post and think it's extremely well thought out. You actually took the time to try to understand Sam's point of view instead of immediately dismissing it as "TDS" as everyone else seemingly has.

[@malvolio01]

LOL. It was a dialogue, not a dialectic. Prime example here of someone who failed out Philosophy 101 at the local community college.

[@livenotbylies4312]

@@Kira-qc4qi If you've watched any of Sam Harris's other interviews it would be tough to not conclude that he has a bad case of TDS.

[@watermelonkang]

Sam advocates for freedoms of speech that he likes and agrees with. Nothing more

[@shantishanti1949]

@@watermelonkangagreed. He advocated for police breaking into your home to vaccinate you ! I was shocked as this is 3 hours of Sam telling his or speaking his hate - Trump RFK “those people” all 40% of them. Fat people. Stopping free speech of anyone with a differing opinion. Refuse to do a podcast on Biden senior or junior or anything Democrat - could not see why Hillary was not electable. I am not a lover of Trump but Biden is so much worse than the worst President and we could be in WWIII because of him - a hot war instead of the war with other countries soldiers and your weapons.

[@clarkzy]

I kinda felt like Tom was putting too much forward at once, then Sam responded to a specific point then Tom would ‘map out’ these kind of simplistic points that often didn’t take the conversation much further forward Good conversation though :)

[@sandokan1021]

For me, anyone undermining the freedom of speech has nothing to say worth listening to. Next guest please.

[@ShastaBean]

It'd be interesting to see MRI & polygraph hooked up and AI interpret whether he actually believes everything he says.

[@maralindkrejci3528]

I only listened to the very beginning and immediately felt he didn't know what he was talking about and said so in my comment!

[@ShastaBean]

@@maralindkrejci3528 I'm not so sure. Sometimes it appears he's lying, other times it seems he's just a dupe. Might be a bit of both. I'd love to know, though.

[@GenkiDamaSSJ]

Weird. Seems like we didn't watch the same conversation. Not sure what you're talking about

[@ShastaBean]

undoubtedly. It's referred to as partisan-lens. This is why they have to rapidly pull the plug on AI when they let it learn, because it very quickly pulls the veil off that people have - that allows things like what this guy says to be gulped down as even remotely factual.@@GenkiDamaSSJ

[@GenkiDamaSSJ]

@@ShastaBean give me the time stamp of what you feel is the best example of what you're talking about.

[@imap3smtp]

I think Sam does a really good job of condescendingly mischaracterizing people who have different views than his on various issues. No matter how many great feats of sophistry he employs, he is intellectually inconsistent and simply wants to suppress views he finds personally distasteful.

[@ASimoneau]

Sam says over and over that it should be legal to have stupid opinions and anyone should have the right to platform someone who holds them. The problem you seem have is that Sam wishes not to platform certain people or ideas, and you think he should be forced to. In other words, the problem here is you, not him.

[@imap3smtp]

In no way, shape, or form have I ever advocated forcing anyone to do (or not do) anything. That is a blatant mischaracterization. The issue here isn't whom Sam chooses to platform. Rather, Sam makes a fairly strong case for the gatekeeping function of media and social media companies to guide social discourse. @@ASimoneau

[@Y2JLionHeart]

A lot of the hatred that Sam gets seems to come from people who are angry that he doesn't agree with them. I respect that if he doesn't see the logic in something, he isn't going to go along with it. Right or left, he's not joining a tribe. Respect.

[@JosephHurtsellers]

I appreciate someone not going along with a tribe. But Sam should not be involved in spiritual issues then. Seems me he's doing well on spiritual issues, so then he should sit down and shut up about all this BS that he knows nothing about and frankly is wrong about

[@upsguppy520]

not true hes a idiot

[@AkshayKumar-ue1fp]

He gets hatred because he’s full of shit 😂

[@softcolly8753]

N it's for his bullshit arguments.

[@meganwingrove7464]

I'm trying to get through this, but my respect for Sam Harris is all but gone.

[@murraybritton6729]

Genuinely curious as to why? What is it that he's saying which is eroding your respect?

[@raminMTL]

@@murraybritton6729 let me guess, he doesnt align with his opinions now?

[@deanhagstrom6667]

Word salad? Sam's who reputation was built on Word Salad.

[@kogzz]

Sam has fallen

[@1AliasAlien]

yup!

[@martacmartins]

God... this one was hard to listen all the way through

[@paddydiddles4415]

When it comes to experts in engineering, we can immediately see how this could be falsified and tested, but in many other fields one can see how ‘expertise’ could perpetuate in contradiction or despite reality. Sam would be the first to point at holy scripture expertise as being in this category

[@johnbuckner2828]

It’s like when “the economy”starts to slide, experts know it’s true, but the president comes out and says everything‘s great; The president is lying, the president knows it’s a lie, but the economy requires the consumers to have faith; so The president is trying to create a self fulfilled prophecy because that’s probably half of his job. Which is more important? The truth or societies’s faith in the economy? This is one area of propaganda that has been tested, and seems to work. But some leaders like to test untested grounds with this kind of utilitarianism, and it ends in disaster. Knowing that our leaders lie to us, the trick is in discerning which lies will avoid a bank run, and which will eventually end in power grabs and even more suffering. The Internet and independent journalism Have given us a window into so many Half truths and outright lies which are excused based upon someone’s utility to the powerful, but it’s having the unintended consequences of and increasing lack of faith in our institutions. They’re finding them selves in a catch 22, and I’d rather have it slowly head toward the decentralization of power than them trying to hold power at all costs.

[@devilsadvocate701]

Because scripture can not be falsified. So how could you ever know if it was wrong. If the scientific method can not be applied to it... then either can be truth.

[@JamesDecker7]

Thanks for the long-form video with Sam. His nuanced conversations never seem to leave anyone “happy”, which I think is a sign of how well/long he has thought out the things he talks about.

[@22448824]

“Nuanced”? You do know what nuance means right?

[@JamesDecker7]

@@22448824 Yup: adjective that means complex, subtle, or delicate in nature. It is often used to describe something that has multiple layers of meaning or that requires careful consideration or analysis to fully understand. -Everyone on KZbin seems to have a strong emotional reaction to the fact that Sam 1) isn’t a saint and hates certain people (for good reason) OR 2) has views that are at times either left or right leaning but never only one or the other. I don’t agree with him in everything, but a lot of his conversations boil down to “life’s complicated and this is how I think about it”.

[@diabl2master]

What? So well-thought ideas always leave the listener happy? Very confusing notion.

[@JamesDecker7]

@@diabl2master No. exactly the opposite. Well thought out, nuanced ideas often make people used to using emotional “shorthand” very upset. Because it’s not as simple as “this side good, that side bad”.

[@joeharm8141]

I never heard of Sam Harris til now , but talk about a miniature wolf in sheep’s clothing….

[@Jester123ish]

I've never understood people, like Sam in this case, given a hypothetical vaccine that is effective, how does other people not taking it endanger your kids? Vaccinate your kids.

[@wesleymcwhirter1534]

Tom, there's a reason why your viewership is waaay down for this podcast.

[@JoanneGuelke]

I listened to the whole thing and can never get that time back...

[@qwertyqwertyqwerty4324]

I’m not going to watch this. I came for the comments after I saw a clip of Sam Harris praising mandatory, cop-forced breaking into your house, vaccination.

[@BillSmith-c2q]

If you can make sense of chaos then it's not really chaos is it?

[@reinforcedpenisstem]

Chaos remains chaos no matter how much you shake it up.

[@bryancook7006]

When Sam Harris said, in this interview, that we should be trying to signal boost the Marcus Aurelius's of the present day...I was kind of hoping Tom Bilyeu would pause, maybe point right at Sam in a knowing way, as to say: "i'm looking at the Marcus Aurelius of present day, right now, and we need you out there." What a moment. That said, I think the clarion call has gone out, and I think Sam has been answering it as best he can. Very grateful for his presence on the world stage of media. I really enjoyed this discussion.

[@blueshattrick]

When random podcaster tries to take credit for inventing The Scientific Method

[@jasonk2947]

I used to like this Sam Harris when he was part of the intellectual dark web crew. Now he’s just another spokesperson for main stream media

[@TheTraderGuy]

Sam loves the evil. Sam IS the evil in his arrogance.

[@Tyegnass]

yup

[@Fa1rplayy]

Sam completely lost his moral and BS-compass, simple as that. Getting 4x jabbed as a healthy middle age man with a new stuff against a disease which is not very frightening except for elderly… omg 😮

[@bbates4496]

Impressive insight…very nice….let’s see your credentials to be giving out medical recommendations…

[@LibertyDIY]

​@@bbates4496Are you serious here. Vaccines carry risk that's a medical fact.

[@Seytom]

56:20 The Constitution only restricts actions of the government. So you fundamentally misunderstand what the founding fathers were trying to do.

[@LawrenceAugust_]

08:22 In a world inundated with information, the rise of sensationalism and hyper-negativity on social media contributes to oversimplification of complex topics. 16:50 In the midst of uncertainty, experts and even the brightest minds can't definitively know what's right or wrong, especially in complex situations. 25:15 Information velocity in the internet age has led to the rapid spread of ideas, often in headlines, with misinformation and sensationalism thriving. 33:24 The decision to make no decision is itself a decision. Businesses choose whether to employ flat algorithms for user experience or tweak algorithms for different experiences. This choice is often driven by business models, such as ad-based attention economies. 41:20 Balancing free speech and moderation in the digital age is complex. Governments silencing speech differs from private companies deciding to associate with certain speech. Platforms should have the right to set terms of service, even a no-nazis policy, but transparency and self-regulation are key. 54:02 There might be ulterior motives for downplaying the lab leak theory, possibly due to conflicts of interest or hidden research funding. 56:11 Fauci's debate with Rand Paul about gain of function research highlighted concerns about manipulation of information and definitions. 59:05 Managing information in a world of excess data should not involve restricting information flow, as this can lead to manipulative outcomes. 1:01:36 Society faces a choice between clamping down on information or allowing open discourse, even though the latter may lead to confusion and misinformation. 1:04:00 Having trusted but limited media sources guiding public discourse is no longer viable, given the information landscape. 1:06:26 Two options emerge: top-down control of information or allowing public discourse, both with associated consequences. 1:08:22 Power grabs and manipulation become possible when controlling information and public narratives, as observed during the COVID-19 pandemic. 1:10:45 RFK Jr.'s conspiracy theories about vaccines and autism are not supported by scientific consensus and should be critically examined. 1:12:58 When platforming controversial figures, there's a journalistic responsibility to debunk misinformation and challenge baseless claims. 1:15:26 Debates with misinformation spreaders should involve experts who can counter false narratives, although asymmetrical tactics can still hinder this. 1:18:23 RFK Jr.'s lack of expertise in relevant domains raises questions about why he's given a platform for discussing vaccines and other topics. 1:20:43 Understanding the psychology of misinformation and the amplification of individual stories over data is crucial in addressing vaccine-related fears. 1:06:23 In the realm of scientific debate, it's crucial to acknowledge the uncertainty inherent in human perspectives and interpretations. 1:14:58 Platforms like Twitter and KZbin are information landscapes where biases are inherent, and individuals choose what content to amplify or suppress based on their preferences. 1:23:32 Elon Musk's behavior on Twitter raises concerns about his approach to spreading information. His ad hoc and sloppy communication style contradicts the notion of Free Speech absolutism, which doesn't even exist on platforms like 4chan. 1:32:12 The challenge with online platforms like Twitter is the polarization and manipulation of information. Tucker Carlson's behavior, for example, presents a dual persona, where he privately criticizes Trump but publicly supports him for the sake of his audience. This phenomenon is fueled by the algorithm-driven nature of social media. 1:40:47 During the 2020 election, the release of a laptop revealing potentially damaging information about Trump was seen as strategically timed to impact the Democratic candidacy. 1:49:29 The concept of tribalism, where individuals make life and death decisions based on their alignment with certain groups, should be outgrown, as truth is universal and not tied to one's background or language. 2:06:34 The decision-making process when it comes to critical issues should prioritize trustworthy institutions, regulations, and systems of incentives. While individuals can contribute, a reliable system ensures better decisions. Instances like the Trump and Biden situations require careful consideration, assessing risk-reward ratios, and sometimes withholding information if the timing is inappropriate. 2:15:08 Considering the potential consequences, if the claims about election interference are accurate, it raises concerns about democracy's stability and the need for countermeasures to mitigate the situation. 2:24:00 Addressing those deeply entrenched in a personality-driven tribalism around certain political figures becomes challenging, as it often resembles a new form of religious devotion rather than rational discourse. 2:59:07 Culture seems to lack virtuous role models like Marcus Aurelius. There is a need for individuals with deep ethical engagement, compassion, and focus on reducing suffering. 3:08:05 The Bible's mix of wisdom and antiquated views presents challenges for believers who seek guidance. 3:08:05 Navigating misinformation and technological advances requires careful prioritization. 3:08:05 Sam Harris' work and content can be found at wakingup.com and samharris.org.

[@softcolly8753]

strawman appeal to authority strawman Appeal to authority misrepresenting what people say

[@LawrenceAugust_]

@@softcolly8753 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@54V4]

I swear I did my best to actively listen and understand the opinion of the total opposite of what I believe in. There are a few good points and a lot of unanswered gaps… and a conglomerate of gullibility and ignorance to put it kindly.

[@Philusteen]

You're gonna need to give some detail or this is just pointless kvetching.

[@AkshayKumar-ue1fp]

@@PhilusteenHe’s a woke liberal pos. Enough said.