Tommy Dreamer on the Bill DeMott controversy, his experience with DeMott and more

Doug Mortman and Dave LaGreca sat down with The Innovator Of Violence, Tommy Dreamer, who gave his opinions on the Bill DeMott controversy, plus his own personal experience with DeMott.
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[@KTtraintowin]

Unfortunately, Dreamer is not being 100 % truthful. While at DSW, I spoke to Dreamer and asked to be moved to OVW and he said he couldn't do that. Instead, Dreamer suggested that I could be made a part of the FBI, and I declined, choosing to leave my contract, go back to square one and join a school in Florida to continue training. Over the following year I sent my tape in monthly and Dreamer buried it, telling Vince that I quit. When I finally ran into Vince Mcmahon he had no idea that I was training and wrestling for CCW, and after seeing my tape, immediately had me booked for a loop of live shows on the west coast. A month later he booked me for almost two months of live shows. Demott is a good trainer, but for me I felt i would progress more at OVW. I had spent a week at OVW for a try out in early in 2005. During that week something was said during a phone call made to Boogeyman that I will not go into here, but Dreamer knows full well what i am talking about, as a recording was played directly to him. I was there. I also spoke in detail with Boogeyman about it then and, later, when I was at DSW. While at DSW, Boogeyman and I spoke just after he hyper extended his knees in a dark match and another wrestler ( unnamed, but is one of the best wrestlers I have ever seen work ) was called up to possibly take Boogeyman's spot. Again, in detail, Boogeyman and I spoke about that phone call 6 months earlier. Dreamer is not truthful here, and did all he could do to hurt my chances of going back. In my opinion, in 2005 Bill Demott still wanted to wrestle. He was in the ring, training himself most mornings and was probably bitter toward others getting a shot. That may have changed later. As a trainer who has worked with athletes for a long time, I think he would have been a much more effective coach without that bitterness. When 95 % of the guys in the school are already in shape ( myself included), I felt ( and still do) that the focus should be on improving the skills needed in the ring, and teaching the small details that, ultimately, become the truly important details later on. We did not do that at DSW. As an example, the worker I mentioned above that was called to work some live shows, and was said to have been considered for the Boogeyman gimmick, had several knee surgeries by the time he achieved one of his goals of signing a deal with WWE. Still, Demott had him doing Squats. Yes, Bill did give guys the option of sitting out, but c'mon, no new recruit with a chronic ( not acute ) injury is going to sit out just after getting their contract. Every set of squats took matches off of his career.... a career that Vince Mcmahon 's hard earned money was investing in so that he ( wrestler) could make the WWE money. Do you see how that works? So when you hear guys like Dreamer talking about tough workouts, ect, keep that in mind. it has little to do with "tough" and a lot to do with lack of useful, effective training.

[@ProgressiveDiscussions]

Ken Theissen is one of my right hand men (moderator) on my old school Facebook fitness group, and known him for years as a man of great integrity.

[@STEJTHEGREATEST]

I like how softly-spoken and articulate Dreamer sounds!!!!!!!! That's really surprising to me!!!!!!! ;*D

[@cbfall]

Great & Interesting!

[@Matt-cr4vv]

If you wonder why people didn’t bring issues forward listen to how he speaks in saying he was there to address them but then dismisses issues in so many ways. Wrestlers can see that tbe “come to me and I’ll fix it” is a ruse because you have to do that but if you make a stink at that level it’s a serious risk to your future. That’s the issue with this stuff. It can’t really get addressed when the people who are there to fix it have attitudes of how it isn’t as bad as what they went through and it isn’t really a big thing. If you see that it shouldn’t be a shock that people aren’t rushing in to make reports about things because they realistically think it’ll risk their chance to make it. Even guys who went through the abuse did that because they knew they had to do that to make it. If they didn’t have to I highly doubt they’d have just gone with it because it isn’t so bad. They deslt with it because it was the price one had to pay and the same applies here when he was overseeing the program. Not hard to understand that being the case.

[@STEJTHEGREATEST]

I wonder if anyone's ever had the guts to ask Dreamer about Francine, or if he just wants to keep all that under the rug forever?????

[@MrZappaman420]

Francine is HOT, and Dreamer's fat ass got that pussy!

[@kylecruise4651]

I did wrestling from 97' to 2001 & its not a dance class. Back in the day if you bitched and moaned like that you'd be out of the business. Its a tough business. The rougher the trainer the harder they'll push you to get you to where you want to be. If a WWE trainer is soft then their not preparing you for what its really like in that ring. Those who complained are wimps & have no business training to be wrestlers.

[@ParagonRex]

Bill is an old school trainer, If they cry because of how Bill trains them then they would not have lasted a day at Verne Gagne barn or Stu Hart's dungeon

[@miguelrodriquez7094]

Bill was a horrible wrestler and still fucking is

[@ParagonRex]

Your entitled to your opinion but his wrestling skill is not the issue his harness or perceived harness is

[@MrJakeTerror]

ParagonRex Hart and Gagne were masters of the craft and trained their guys from the ground up. Bill DeMott was some no-name midcarder who did some fucked up shit to prospects who were already trained and already wrestled and held more titles than him. Think of him as a very aggressive porn fluffer.

[@taffysaur]

Miguel Rodriquez Most of the guys on the roster were trained by him. Rollins, Reigns, Ambrose, Russev, Wyatt, Owens, pretty much everybody. Obviously they thought he did a good job, or he wouldn't have had several training positions over so many years.

[@johnfalcetta5431]

+Jake Terror "very aggressive porn fluffer" fucking classic

[@crucifixmegabuster95]

wish words from a classy guy.

[@truthhurtseverybody1289]

When dozens of wrestlers confess via shoots that Demont is a jerk, it's gotta be true.

[@melbias5046]

opening card wrestler and how the heck he got to train wrestlers.

[@gungrave10]

mel baez Because he was a damn good jobber

[@maddizzle1776able]

obviously the guys are not going to step up and be known as the taddle tale. its too bad but thats the way it is

[@2uitdoesntmatter]

mikey caputo yeah dreamer doesn't get it.

[@sychophantt]

Why were they stretched in the dungeon when it's fake? Makes no sense