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Initially used as a term to empower awareness of systemic inequalities in society, wokeism is now a deeply divisive term. The media's perpetuation of woke culture has made this term a buzzword. For some, being woke is part of the antidote of acknowledging the instruments of oppression. For others, it is a dangerously absolutist ideology, a sort of reverse McCarthyism, corroding liberal society and encouraging self-imposed victimhood. Is the 'war on woke' a legitimate phenomenon, or a reactionary distraction from the real problems being 'woke' addresses?
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@aaronclarke1434
@aaronclarke1434 Жыл бұрын
If we all had this young man’s ability to organise and articulate his thoughts, as well as his belief in humanism and democracy, then our society would flourish.
@HenryLeslieGraham
@HenryLeslieGraham Жыл бұрын
the most dangerous belief in human history is ironically - humanism.
@sixteenstringjack
@sixteenstringjack Жыл бұрын
you're not wrong. I'm probably more than twice his age and he can really lay it down - impressive
@HomeDIYSStuff
@HomeDIYSStuff Жыл бұрын
Ya but America is too busy calling cursive and the ability to do math racist. lol
@painetcirque5695
@painetcirque5695 Жыл бұрын
indeed.
@ishrendon6435
@ishrendon6435 Жыл бұрын
Humanism and democracy doesnt guarantee progress . Just learn and center the society around learning and progression democratic or not
@brianmoran1196
@brianmoran1196 Жыл бұрын
Good lord !. Imagine what this guy will be like in a few years. He is really impressive.
@tonywilson4713
@tonywilson4713 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but this is some of the most ignorant shit I have ever heard and I mean ignorant in that he ignores basic reality. He's *IGNORING* that he's describing and criticising *EVERY* socio-political ideology when they go too far. If you took this speech and replaced the words woke and wokeism with conservative & conservatism or left & leftism or right & rightism or *ANY OTHER* socio-political ideology its exactly the same speech. This is 9 minutes and 12 seconds of political clichéd *BULLSHlT* that could easily describe every political movement in history. For a couple of people who think this kid has a bright future look at the recently elected American George Santos who has lied about everything in his life. He won the election doing *EXACTLY* what Tommy Nguyen has done here *take the standard tribal political line and tell it to a willing audience.* What the real debate should be _"This House Believes Political Tribalism Has Gone Too Far"_
@frelonvert6064
@frelonvert6064 Жыл бұрын
He'll be back in china with his falon gong cultists...
@DavidVoisin-ij2bh
@DavidVoisin-ij2bh Жыл бұрын
What a bright young man. As an immigrant, I can empathise with him. We must fight those who are offended vicariously, those who want to be offended on our behalf, those who do not want to talk TO us but FOR us. Woke Culture does weaponize Identity. Reducing people to their skin colour, gender, sexual orientation etc... is not a mark of respect but predicated on virtue signalling and self aggrandisement. It is, in fact, the essence of what we might call Neoracism.
@lausanne67
@lausanne67 Жыл бұрын
Well said. Couldn't agree more. However I'm pessimistic that anything can be done to check the power of woke ideology as it is now deeply embedded within all the major institutions of society; most notably of course in universities, but also in the mainstream media, education, the police force, and most of the big private companies. And of course parliament itself mouths the platitudes of woke culture. After all, it is simply a more aggressive, more totalitarian version of Political Correctness, which itself introduced the dogma that certain words couldn't be used, certain ideas couldn't be discussed, certain opinions couldn't be expressed. All of the main political parties are under the sway of woke assumptions to some degree, with just a handful of backbench Tory MPs willing to go against the group-think. I hope I'm wrong in my pessimism, but I doubt it.
@chrismc.4437
@chrismc.4437 Жыл бұрын
@@lausanne67 You are far from wrong sadly. And might we agree your said pessimism is rather a realism.
@jordanblair5410
@jordanblair5410 Жыл бұрын
Isn't that what Hitler and the Nazis did, categorizing and discriminating based on skin color, religion, geneology, etc?
@afuzzycreature8387
@afuzzycreature8387 Жыл бұрын
I don't empathize with anybody who saw a good thing in the BLM movement. I see naivete.
@LS-xs7sg
@LS-xs7sg Жыл бұрын
Woke culture certainly has a patronising & dehumanising aspect to it when it comes to "minorities" with the wrong opinions. But fundamentally it is a war against the native peoples of the west and their inherited traditions. Focusing the critique of wokeness from the standpoint of minorities who disagree with it in some sense plays into the woke paradigm because it is still agreeing to the idea that minority voices are legitimate simply because they are minorities. The overarching counternarrative to wokism should actually be one of majority rights and the wisdom of inherited traditions - many of which are deeply natural. The idea of men and women is natural and right. It is a given. As is the idea that ethnic groups evolve in different parts of the world. The idea of England being white is natural and right. And the decolonisation movement, when directed against the native people of Europe is evil. Wokeness is first and foremost a rage against reality.
@kokomanation
@kokomanation Жыл бұрын
Woke culture is like complaining without thinking.
@kopite998
@kopite998 Жыл бұрын
Wow this is the best explanation I've heard 👏
@MCFCTheMadHatter
@MCFCTheMadHatter Жыл бұрын
@@kopite998 Agreed!!
@0x9D99
@0x9D99 Жыл бұрын
I believe Dr. Lindsay explained this at some point (not in this debate but on his channel). It seems being critical just to be critical isn’t very helpful to changing things in any direction. Still putting all this information altogether myself.
@user-gf6gf2iy2k
@user-gf6gf2iy2k Жыл бұрын
Really highlights that it's not a behaviour unique to one side of the political spectrum, but one common to the excessively tribal on either extreme. Blind dogma and demanding of allegiance is the actual problem. The debater notes that attempting to redefine words is Orwellian, highlighting the redefining "woke" as a pejorative term is also Orwellian.
@kokomanation
@kokomanation Жыл бұрын
@@user-gf6gf2iy2k It is a memetic behaviour that people are afraid to question because they are afraid to be rejected by their peers or friends.It is like a dogma as you said.
@aleksanderkruzewski4954
@aleksanderkruzewski4954 Жыл бұрын
This young fella has a brilliant future in front of him 🫡
@tonywilson4713
@tonywilson4713 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but this is some of the most ignorant shit I have ever heard and I mean ignorant in that he ignores basic reality. He's *IGNORING* that he's describing and criticising *EVERY* socio-political ideology when they go too far. If you took this speech and replaced the words woke and wokeism with conservative & conservatism or left & leftism or right & rightism or *ANY OTHER* socio-political ideology its exactly the same speech. This is 9 minutes and 12 seconds of political clichéd *BULLSHlT* that could easily describe every political movement in history. For a couple of people who think this kid has a bright future look at the recently elected American George Santos who has lied about everything in his life. He won the election doing *EXACTLY* what Tommy Nguyen has done here *take the standard tribal political line and tell it to a willing audience.* What the real debate should be _"This House Believes Political Tribalism Has Gone Too Far"_
@mrsteve170
@mrsteve170 Жыл бұрын
Very well said young man. You have a bright future
@tonywilson4713
@tonywilson4713 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but this is some of the most ignorant shit I have ever heard and I mean ignorant in that he ignores basic reality. He's *IGNORING* that he's describing and criticising *EVERY* socio-political ideology when they go too far. If you took this speech and replaced the words woke and wokeism with conservative & conservatism or left & leftism or right & rightism or *ANY OTHER* socio-political ideology its exactly the same speech. This is 9 minutes and 12 seconds of political clichéd *BULLSHlT* that could easily describe every political movement in history. For a couple of people who think this kid has a bright future look at the recently elected American George Santos who has lied about everything in his life. He won the election doing *EXACTLY* what Tommy Nguyen has done here *take the standard tribal political line and tell it to a willing audience.* What the real debate should be _"This House Believes Political Tribalism Has Gone Too Far"_
@TheFiddle101
@TheFiddle101 Жыл бұрын
So well articulated
@shmosel_
@shmosel_ Жыл бұрын
Too well articulated
@Pusetryne
@Pusetryne Жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant. You Sir, have a future! Stay brave and life will be interesting.
@novakingood3788
@novakingood3788 Жыл бұрын
I presume those are all-inclusive, all-encompassing, diverse people leaving the debate because their feelings have been hurt by facts.
@emilyjh75
@emilyjh75 Жыл бұрын
Best argument in the debate. Hit the fundamentals, do not engage emotional claims. 👍
@tonywilson4713
@tonywilson4713 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but this is some of the most ignorant shit I have ever heard and I mean ignorant in that he ignores basic reality. He's *IGNORING* that he's describing and criticising *EVERY* socio-political ideology when they go too far. If you took this speech and replaced the words woke and wokeism with conservative & conservatism or left & leftism or right & rightism or *ANY OTHER* socio-political ideology its exactly the same speech. This is 9 minutes and 12 seconds of political clichéd *BULLSHlT* that could easily describe every political movement in history. For a couple of people who think this kid has a bright future look at the recently elected American George Santos who has lied about everything in his life. He won the election doing *EXACTLY* what Tommy Nguyen has done here *take the standard tribal political line and tell it to a willing audience.* What the real debate should be _"This House Believes Political Tribalism Has Gone Too Far"_
@frosksdeadteeth5163
@frosksdeadteeth5163 Жыл бұрын
He said he grew up in a communist regime didn’t he? They know where it leads. Weird how they worship Marx, who was a racist bigot. Do they realise it was all tribal? Jewish Bolsheviks vs Christians? Native French peasants against their foreign overlords? That the British aristocracy treated the peasants as serfs? They need to read more history than just the basics if they’re gonna get into political activism.
@tonywilson4713
@tonywilson4713 Жыл бұрын
@@frosksdeadteeth5163 Not certain what you're specifically trying to point out because your comment flips back and forth between fact and contradiction. Or is that what you are trying to show because I found ALL of the 8 speakers to contradict themselves or go wildly off topic at times. Why did Konstantin Kisin rant on about climate change, when that has zip to do with wokeism? I totally agree with your last line that they need to read a lot more history. I'm Australian in my 50s (early Gen-X) and in high school we all did 4 years of history classes that went from Ancient Egypt through Sumerian, Greek, Roman and British history all the way to modern Australia. So I learned that events are affected by preceding events and that historical events have context. That's not done anymore and I see Millennials and Zoomers with almost no ability to put things into historical context and when they do try its often a face palm moment. This whole debate seemed riddled with bad context even though a couple did try.
@lk-music
@lk-music Жыл бұрын
@@tonywilson4713 Not sure climate scientists would agree there's no wokeism in their field. Also you could say companies pretending they care about the environment is a form of wokeism.
@jirislavicek9954
@jirislavicek9954 Жыл бұрын
Yes he's very academic 👍
@jul4275
@jul4275 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, young man ,your parents taught you the good from the bad. Thank them. Please keep up the good fight.🙏
@gilltrewick5219
@gilltrewick5219 Жыл бұрын
He will make a fantastic politician, clear, concise and knowledgeable
@tonywilson4713
@tonywilson4713 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but this is some of the most ignorant shit I have ever heard and I mean ignorant in that he ignores basic reality. He's *IGNORING* that he's describing and criticising *EVERY* socio-political ideology when they go too far. If you took this speech and replaced the words woke and wokeism with conservative & conservatism or left & leftism or right & rightism or *ANY OTHER* socio-political ideology its exactly the same speech. This is 9 minutes and 12 seconds of political clichéd *BULLSHlT* that could easily describe every political movement in history. For a couple of people who think this kid has a bright future look at the recently elected American George Santos who has lied about everything in his life. He won the election doing *EXACTLY* what Tommy Nguyen has done here *take the standard tribal political line and tell it to a willing audience.* What the real debate should be _"This House Believes Political Tribalism Has Gone Too Far"_
@TooneySA
@TooneySA Жыл бұрын
Vietnamese guy knows what it's like to live under similar doctrines.
@edijester
@edijester Жыл бұрын
Grand stuff from this young man
@thegadphly3275
@thegadphly3275 Жыл бұрын
Oh Tommy!! You are brilliant and spot on. You addressed the issue best. EXCELLENT !!!! Thanks..
@wetlazer2443
@wetlazer2443 Жыл бұрын
Wonderfully laid out, powerful examples.
@Teasehirt
@Teasehirt Жыл бұрын
Woke Culture happens when we prioritise ideals instead over values.
@ytsm
@ytsm Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Could one argue that they are the same thing, though?
@Teasehirt
@Teasehirt Жыл бұрын
@@ytsm Similar but not the same, and it's the prioritising that creates the malice. Values are very much fixed in what can be obtained within our reality, not so ideals they can go above and beyond.
@peachesandcream8753
@peachesandcream8753 Жыл бұрын
@@ytsm Of course they're not the same thing. Idealism is what you want to be real; it is devoid of the reality of the world. Values are what has been shown to be beneficial to a people through many generations of trial and error; it's a standard of behaviour that is enforced.
@ralfl.k.5636
@ralfl.k.5636 Жыл бұрын
Woke ist a Putin's world 🤗
@ghostmanscores1666
@ghostmanscores1666 Жыл бұрын
food for thought
@raccoonduck5406
@raccoonduck5406 Жыл бұрын
He's only an undergraduate! There is hope in the UK.
@tcailey80
@tcailey80 Жыл бұрын
Very strong speech and bang on
@johnkost2514
@johnkost2514 Жыл бұрын
Brilliantly articulated. Bravo!
@hankschrader7050
@hankschrader7050 Жыл бұрын
The most impressive thing about this whole forum is that there were no mobs of woke incels with colored hair storming in and chanting "RACIIIIST!!!"
@disband_thebbc5933
@disband_thebbc5933 Жыл бұрын
They only send the rowdy shock troops in against the working class. These people have the resources to pursue legal actions for any unsubstantiated allegations against their good character.
@user-gf6gf2iy2k
@user-gf6gf2iy2k Жыл бұрын
The woke incels were off protesting against BudLight and denouncing Fox news for impurity of viewpoint, in favour of Newsmax / OAN that remain acceptable.
@onepartyroule
@onepartyroule Жыл бұрын
I'd be so proud of him if he was my son.
@alen2937
@alen2937 Жыл бұрын
Finally, a university starting to really see the reality. About time.
@murrayclarke2171
@murrayclarke2171 Жыл бұрын
Well said. The hiring one for me is interesting. I don’t believe we should be forced to hire anyone other than the best person for the job and, depending on the industry and skills, that may not meet same balance as that in society. Not having enough XYZ people in the company doesn’t mean we’re all bigots or racists. It’s silly.
@LeSpaghet
@LeSpaghet Жыл бұрын
nah theyre LGBTQIA2+2IS4-1DATS3QUICKMATHS people
@davidfaith3605
@davidfaith3605 Жыл бұрын
Bravo!
@JR-iw8du
@JR-iw8du Жыл бұрын
What an impressive young man.
@thomaschichester3020
@thomaschichester3020 Жыл бұрын
Wokeism is at it's core the infantile need for self-inflating moral supremacy. These speakers all make the mistake of assuming that "Woke" is a coherent philosophy with a consistent moral core and, ironically, each speaker gives tangible evidence that there is no coherence or consistency in "Wokeness". The speakers fail to recognize that "Wokesters" are simply narcissistic, arrested-development two-year olds with decades of experience. This is not a slander, it is a critical observation of Woke performance. The most effective way to deal with a Woke demonstration invokes the same tactics as dealing with a fit-throwing two year old. You ostracize them. Don't argue because critical thought is beyond them. Don't penalize or commit violence against them because that will legitimize them, to themselves at least, but possibly also to society at large. It has been noted by child psychologists and sociologists that two-year olds are eventually socialized out of their narcissm by the other children in their cohort. When the other children refuse to play or engage with them because of their self-absorbed behavior, the child modifies their behavior to become more socially acceptable. This is what needs to happen with the Woke. The Woke need to be ostracized from the public square in such a way that they understand that they will not be allowed back into public debate until they start acting in a way that does not personally attack those with whom they disagree. In other words, like mature adults
@shanefeather-lopez5935
@shanefeather-lopez5935 6 ай бұрын
It appears that hope is not entirely lost on the youth - thank heavens for critical thought and thank heavens for people like Tommy for speaking up against the threat of future 'cancellation'
@shyjackson3638
@shyjackson3638 Жыл бұрын
I love how he said “wokeism in its current form” like I said in a previous video if wokeism kept its original meaning instead of ppl turning it into something else this wouldn’t be a debate. Either way he made some pretty good points. 7:33
@imperiencypher5584
@imperiencypher5584 Жыл бұрын
It's original meaning was "Awakening to the fact that the US is a white supremacist country" or, as per the Black Twitter version, "now i be woke AND lit!". It was bullshit then just as it's bullshit now that every other progressive faction has seized upon, and expanded, it to include whatever nonsense they're bitching about in {Current Year}.
@tyleryoast8299
@tyleryoast8299 Жыл бұрын
I felt so much catharsis while watching this. This guy vented all of my frustrations in such a comprehensive and articulate way. These ideas have destroyed the intellectual culture where I live, and you cannot criticize it without being shouted down. This movement has poisoned the worldview of a generation and we need to stop this hostile tribalism that is degrading western culture.
@SeyhawksNow
@SeyhawksNow 11 ай бұрын
I stopped calling myself an ally of theirs around 2017 because I realized most of the negativity directed at me was coming from them, not whoever they were fighting at that time. I was on their side, but in their zeal, they couldn't allow anyone who wasn't committed 100%. The honey of the other side didn't attract me. It was the vinegar of my own that repelled me.
@Harpoon2theRescue
@Harpoon2theRescue Жыл бұрын
This one was like an ice pack for the brain after listening to the instagram "models" ramblings.
@MURPHYL28
@MURPHYL28 Жыл бұрын
Very well said.
@DanceNightAtDiscoFright
@DanceNightAtDiscoFright Жыл бұрын
I've just watched 5 of those in a row yet i do not get any recommendations from this channel. ,,Interresting"
@johnmurphy1599
@johnmurphy1599 Жыл бұрын
Well said! 👍
@01What10
@01What10 Жыл бұрын
Well said! This kid is going places!
@jomontanee
@jomontanee Жыл бұрын
“DIVISIVE & TOXIC.” So true yet so sad.
@gracejuliearcher3713
@gracejuliearcher3713 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant young brain: well and beautifully done
@rhinocore
@rhinocore Жыл бұрын
I like this guy, and I respect the strength of his arguments. But trying to extend the olive branch to the woke is a mistake. It is walking into the trap that has been set for you. It is based on the false premise that they have any interest in arguing in good faith. They do not. Give them nothing.
@balyboo5856
@balyboo5856 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see a young person showing some original thoughts. Some errors like ...spreading to educational institutions... which i would replace by ...spread by educational institutions... since i can't think of any moronic idea for which the spreading part was not done long time ago.
@AysarAburrub
@AysarAburrub Жыл бұрын
dude said he grew up in a communist country lol ... if im not mistaken this guy is the son of a Vietnamese billionaire lady that owns an airline. And judging by his accent-free English, im willing to bet he spent most of his life outside of Vietnam.
@ThyNguyen-qd5fx
@ThyNguyen-qd5fx Жыл бұрын
i agree he is the son of billionaire, but he grew up in vietnam when he was 15 or 16 he studied abroad in uk.
@TayWoode
@TayWoode Жыл бұрын
Wow I never knew that No wonder he was reading from a script rather than speaking passionately from the heart with an occasional glance down at his notes
@ShubhamSinghYoutube
@ShubhamSinghYoutube Жыл бұрын
My argument against individual indentity is that there are too many pronouns too remember and too many people to offend. I pass. Lol
@pt7181
@pt7181 Жыл бұрын
Its more like "everyone has problems, i dont care what type of pokemon you think you are, not enough to remember the PrOnOuNs"
@Anna-mc3ll
@Anna-mc3ll Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this talk! This gentleman makes a crucial point especially between 3:06 and 4:15! Thank you!
@sypen1
@sypen1 Жыл бұрын
These guy is amazing.
@excelLANTS
@excelLANTS 4 күн бұрын
Well done!
@ChekhovBla
@ChekhovBla Жыл бұрын
Yep. I do not know what more to say, excellent reasoning.
@honeybunch6473
@honeybunch6473 Жыл бұрын
Well said!
@bradtalksforengland
@bradtalksforengland Жыл бұрын
My bros have got a lot invested in this!!!
@aucourant9998
@aucourant9998 Жыл бұрын
Really excellent.
@robinpickett7618
@robinpickett7618 Жыл бұрын
Woke went too far as soon as intersectionality was born. Which is precisely when modern wokery was created.
@adamethancrow
@adamethancrow Жыл бұрын
Great points made well🎉
@shuntley23
@shuntley23 Жыл бұрын
Good job young man!! I am Asian American as well
@castelodeossos3947
@castelodeossos3947 Жыл бұрын
Good job young man!! I too have two legs, two arms, a nose, two eyes, two ears, and a mouth
@Communist-Doge
@Communist-Doge Жыл бұрын
He's British though?
@castelodeossos3947
@castelodeossos3947 Жыл бұрын
@@Communist-Doge Says he grew up under a Communist regime, which I don't think people yet have called British rule. And his accent is American.
@AQueenOfTheStoneAge
@AQueenOfTheStoneAge Жыл бұрын
@@castelodeossos3947pretty sure he's talking about Vietnam.
@castelodeossos3947
@castelodeossos3947 Жыл бұрын
@@AQueenOfTheStoneAge Considering his surname is Vietnamese, dare say your assumption is correct. Not arguing, but your point is?
@catmaclaggan
@catmaclaggan Жыл бұрын
Bravo, young man!
@yellowfever4
@yellowfever4 Жыл бұрын
Simply fantastic. from a fellow British Viet.
@ashrakik8333
@ashrakik8333 Жыл бұрын
Now these are how debates should be run!!!
@roxee57
@roxee57 Жыл бұрын
Very good.
@stuh4932
@stuh4932 Жыл бұрын
Bravo 👏
@tracyhealey8312
@tracyhealey8312 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@YouSpewed
@YouSpewed Жыл бұрын
He’s nervous and trying to talk too fast, but he’s brilliant. People that escape Communism and poverty are much more grateful for our freedoms.
@davidli7829
@davidli7829 Жыл бұрын
Came to the US from China with my parents, always ticked me off a little when Americans acts entitled and don't realize how good they had it while inaccurately dehumanizing chinese people in media and such. China isn't good, but it's for different reasons than ones they often bring up. Woke culture is the embodiment of pretending to be a victim and complaining without understanding while virtue signaling and taking moral high ground.
@monkeytime9851
@monkeytime9851 Жыл бұрын
The latter part of his speech, about weaponizing identity is exactly the problem. It is the root of both wokism and old style racism.
@stevenrichardson1843
@stevenrichardson1843 Жыл бұрын
We will see this guy again.
@ambassador8524
@ambassador8524 Жыл бұрын
Based on the amount of 👍 im guessing it may not be as bad in England. It’s very bad here in the US
@aaronclarke1434
@aaronclarke1434 Жыл бұрын
We copy the USA and continually bemuse ourselves in so doing.
@umeshprasadsingh9648
@umeshprasadsingh9648 5 ай бұрын
Unique representation of ideation indeed.
@j11smith
@j11smith Жыл бұрын
Nailed it. Share this everywhere
@coot1925
@coot1925 Жыл бұрын
Everything he said was spot on. I do wish however wish that he would slow his speech down instead of racing through it. I realise there's a time limit, but when someone rambles at high speed it's like trying to read the tail number on a fighter jet that's flying past your head at supersonic speed.
@nickjingo3273
@nickjingo3273 Жыл бұрын
excellent work and reasoning
@terrlaw328
@terrlaw328 4 ай бұрын
Oh Tommy, please shed those white socks when wearing your elegant shirt , jacket and tie. You a quite an intelligent young man.
@Beatit19
@Beatit19 Жыл бұрын
Amazing! Well reasoned argument, addresses every point truthfully and sharply, while having pointed out from the beginning how both sides of the political spectrum weaponize this term. Hope in the new generation still alive!
@castelodeossos3947
@castelodeossos3947 Жыл бұрын
'I do apologise though however...'. The few blunders of a non-native speaker of English do not diminish this gentleman's argument.
@ianl5882
@ianl5882 Жыл бұрын
Perfectly stated! Bravo!!
@b0sH
@b0sH Жыл бұрын
A very well laid out and cohesive argument (though possibly reconsider the white socks decision).
@Forheavenssake1ify
@Forheavenssake1ify 3 ай бұрын
He seems to be saying “Wokeism” is the result of 25 years of post-modernist philosophy ? Post-modernism is well known to criticize Western institutions and liberalism. (Kuznar 2008:78) 1 It questions reality and representation (it's all “fake news”), 2- It isolates text and language as the central “phenomena” of existence, (making social media, archived documents as the battlegrounds) 3- It applies literary analysis to all “phenomena” (words and images are the weapons.). 4- It criticizes “metanarratives” by counter-storytelling. (all history, literature, religion is wrong/biased) promoting “progressive nihilism”. For example "Gender is a construct" 5- It over focuses on “power” relations and “hegemony”, (regularly rebranded as “structuralism”, “post structuralism” etc.) 6- It argues against method and evaluation (anti- science) eg- potions trump vaccines. (pun intended) For example postmodernism promotes qualitative analysis (opinions and feelings) over quantitative analysis (votes)
@markmckay6396
@markmckay6396 Жыл бұрын
You will have a great future.
@leathera
@leathera Жыл бұрын
Nicely done Tommy.
@jakeblair4215
@jakeblair4215 Жыл бұрын
The UK would do well to ignore American imported "problem's"
@metamorphic6930
@metamorphic6930 Жыл бұрын
The 'reading' from the paper makes this a lot less powerful
@wardropper
@wardropper Жыл бұрын
Some great points.
@user-gf6gf2iy2k
@user-gf6gf2iy2k Жыл бұрын
Really highlights that it's not a behaviour unique to one side of the political spectrum, but one common to the excessively tribal on either extreme. Blind dogma and demanding of allegiance is the actual problem. The debater notes that attempting to redefine words is Orwellian, highlighting the redefining "woke" as a pejorative term is also Orwellian.
@empiar5481
@empiar5481 Жыл бұрын
One side presents arguments. The other side presents word salad.
@samuelfriden
@samuelfriden Жыл бұрын
It's so nice knowing that Oxford is against wokeism❤️❤️❤️
@siremagu4916
@siremagu4916 Жыл бұрын
How many of the audience took the yes door?
@olafnilsen1641
@olafnilsen1641 Жыл бұрын
The slim majority
@bobloerakker7010
@bobloerakker7010 Жыл бұрын
Preach young man!
@MrVara411
@MrVara411 Жыл бұрын
Brilliantly written, but he needs to work on delivery. Stop reading. Engage more. I mean this constructively as this world needs more young men like Mr. Nguyen.
@FinanceWisdomTech
@FinanceWisdomTech Жыл бұрын
100% agree
@erandeser5830
@erandeser5830 Жыл бұрын
At Oxford making a speech equals reading from a paper.
@patglenn7762
@patglenn7762 Жыл бұрын
Getting down to core definitions, one has to wonder if those who claim to be "woke," or are accused of being "woke," - really are.
@MatthewHorne88
@MatthewHorne88 Жыл бұрын
Why does nobody who grey up in communism have anything good to say about it?
@pnwlady
@pnwlady Жыл бұрын
Oh, I miss scientific consensus and reasoned debate. North Americans trust the science unless dogma supersedes. Why is scientific consensus valid for global warming and pandemics but not medical intervention and legal status regarding people with gender dysphoria? Rather than changing minds, bullying or censure coerces conformity or silence especially in agreeable personalities. No decent person wants to see another suffer. I do not know how to resolve the tension of a person at odds with their own body and scared of their safety in society where they can be perceived as abnormal. It is an important problem to address. But turning allies into enemies because one can’t change their mind without debate or scientific consensus on an issue as fundamental as biology and reproduction is extremely short sided. The violent TRAs online are as bad as anyone who doxes, threatens or uses hate speech against their enemies. Hope and optimism are hard to come by until I put down my device and go outside into nature. 💜 Yesterday I saw 14 seals at once! We stared at each other until they went back to feeding, splashing and making strange sounds.
@leahdurkan28
@leahdurkan28 Жыл бұрын
Intelligent young man.
@cioccolateriaveneziana
@cioccolateriaveneziana Жыл бұрын
7:14 In case someone is wondering what was mentioned here: the massacre of Srebrenica (pronounced [srebrenitsa]) in the 1990's.
@notusingmyname4791
@notusingmyname4791 Жыл бұрын
seeing the like and dislike ratio between the pro-woke side's videos vs the woke has gone too far side's videos is awesome...
@bernardjackson6594
@bernardjackson6594 Жыл бұрын
The current state of intellectual discourse is lamentable. The rise of irrational identity politics and tribalism, which has been cultivated by the corporate media since 2008, has distracted people from the ever-widening wealth inequality in society. This has resulted in the disappearance of the middle class and the demonization of the average worker, who is now considered evil simply because they are white and male. The capitalists have disguised themselves as neo-leftists in order to maintain their Übermann status, while the real leftist ideology of the early 20th century, which once sought to uplift the working class and create a truly free and equal society for all, has been expelled and marginalized in the most vicious way. The inevitable economic crisis that is to come will only further demonstrate the consequences of this pseudo-leftist ideology. As the society descends into instability, the supposed left-wing will become a scapegoat for the crisis as soon as their corporate media overlords abandoned them, while the capitalists enjoy their mansions and yachts even if the right wing populists took over. But, If there is hope, it lies in the proles. The working class, regardless of their race, religion or any other identity they invented to divide us, share a common fate, and the capitalists and elites of Wall Street seek to exploit us unto death. Therefore, it is imperative that we reject this pseudo-leftist ideology and embrace the true leftist principles that aim to empower the working class and reduce wealth inequality. We must remember that the history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles, not gender identity war but class war. The workers of all races and nations must stand together in their shared struggle against the capitalists, who seek to drink our blood and that of our children... March in the workers' 𝗨𝗻𝗶𝘁𝗲𝗱 front, for you are a worker too. 𝐷𝑒𝑒𝑝 𝑖𝑛 𝑚𝑦 ℎ𝑒𝑎𝑟𝑡, 𝐼 𝑑𝑜 𝑏𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑒𝑣𝑒, 𝑊𝑒 𝑠ℎ𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑒, 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒 𝑑𝑎𝑦.
@bradtalksforengland
@bradtalksforengland Жыл бұрын
But you still studied in the UK.
@sugarfree1894
@sugarfree1894 Жыл бұрын
You do indeed control your privilege. But to do that you must first recognize it for what it is, and I don't think you are able to.
@justinlicciardi4505
@justinlicciardi4505 Жыл бұрын
Woke was a concept used in hip hop lyrics in the late 90 it is supposed to mean you know what the actual reality of what is going on not that you believe in ever changing illogical wants and wishes.
@petermarsh4993
@petermarsh4993 Жыл бұрын
I’m just wondering Jasmin: Would you rather be living in a grass skirt in Central Africa, hunting for monkeys and yams for a living or would you rather live in Western society which listens to your denigration respectfully whilst at the same time provides you with luxury clothes and absurd high-heel boots?
@elisa7881
@elisa7881 Жыл бұрын
To all: Debating is NOT reading.
@Mr_Joe_B_619
@Mr_Joe_B_619 Жыл бұрын
We're all woke. We just all had different dreams.
@RichardEnglander
@RichardEnglander Жыл бұрын
Woke gets smashed all the way through this 👏👏 its clear what the audience support, backed up in comments. The other side getting slammed too. ❤
@iampdv
@iampdv Жыл бұрын
oxford is also very much woke to the degree that this wokeness sometimes overflows and gets to the community-wide mailing lists for various research fields... it is from such emails that I found out about special woke guidelines implemented at oxford for various activities...
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