DF54 Grinder Review - The NEW Affordable Flat Burr!

[@ammarmohammad5401]

I usually don't comment on videos, but thank you for sharing your insights. It is refreshing to see someone not talking about grinder brands that are not affordable to most people out there. I put order for the DF54. Cheers from Canada 🍁

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Awesome, thanks for the feedback, and I think you'll quite like this grinder. Cheers!

[@RorieShade]

And how do you like it??

[@HenryPiffpaff]

So, what's your opinion on it? :)

[@SunriseLAW]

Another small thanks for this great community. I posted a comment regarding hand-grinders. As a result of the dialog, I successfully cancelled an order made yesterday. Instead, I went with the Kingrinder 6 that had an awesome coupon and as a user mentioned, was featured here. Thank you again!.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Thanks for your support!

[@giorgossfakianakis7163]

Your channel is so underrated and the content you're creating is unique. Keep it up we love it!

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

That's so kind of you to say, thank you!

[@aleksander6874]

It's my first comment on youtube since years. You Sir are doing such a great job! Great content, helpful tips, easy to process, quality editing. I have a Delonghi Dedica for years - used it default... Now I will push it to the limits :D

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Thanks so much for the kind feedback! Now enjoy your Dedica. :) Tom

[@alaskavaper966]

The DF54 is a no-brainer! I currently have an early gen1 DF64. One could currently buy 2 DF54’s for less than the price I paid for my DF64. Life is great!.

[@Nanook6]

Received one for Christmas today 🎉 Watching again to remind me how to operate it. Thank you !!

[@latenightinterview291]

I like your channel Tom. I love that you just whip out a 200-300 dollar delongi machine to do this test. LOL You're the man bro. Very relaxing and honest review from a guy who clearly has apathy for us poor folks. lol

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Thanks very much for the kind comment, and your feedback. 👍🏻

[@ChickenWalkerable]

I bought Dedica after watching your channel. I've paired with Smart Grinder Pro. Today, I preordered DF54 after watching this video!

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Great to hear! Have fun with your setup!

[@HenryPiffpaff]

So, what's your opinion on it? :)

[@zjye]

Thanks for the guide 16.5, just got mine DF54 today, works great with my Delonghi dedica coffee machine

[@berdman2353]

Hello from Singapore. After watching your videos, I took the plunge and bought the EC685 (my very 1st espresso machine) and the DF54. I am a noob and your videos helped a great in my by espresso journey. I am an Americano guy and will use 16g fresh coffee beans with 16.5 setting as well. Yes, I bought all the stuff you recommended in your EC685 Ultimate video. I have a Kingrinder K4 and I am using it on the Outin Nano but its a challenge getting the right setting for it. Iy's either under or over extracting. lol. Thanks again, Tom!!

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Thanks for the feedback, and have fun experimenting!

[@thethirdman225]

As someone who is new to electric grinders, this looks like what I need. The Breville is a great price but probably a bit more complex than what I need. I don’t care so much about the grind time as much as I care about the single dose setup. There’s one setting so I can concentrate on the most appropriate grind for the machine. I think I will pair it with the Breville dual boiler unit.

[@meamjustme]

I love my DF64 gen 2. Had it for a few months now. I wanted low retention. Single dose. And something that would do espresso and filter. And not to much static. Thus the DF64 G2 was my choice. This however would looks like a smaller version of that. Given the price i wil recommend this to friends over the heavier price of the bigger version.

[@christophwagner8659]

Got mine and happy with it. Only con so far: The dial scale is a bit hard to turn, since the polished aluminum is kind of slippery. Fixed it with 12mm anti-slip tape, as it is used on the floor for stairways etc.. Works great then.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Nice hack!

[@rsbagga]

Hi Tom! I have the DF54 and am loving it. An fyi, make sure the bellows are on the right way - I found if they are upside down they knock off easily (and it’s not easy to tell which way is up), but turn them upside down and mine fit both the machine and the lid nice and snug.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Thanks! But I've tried mine both ways and it's quite floppy either way. Maybe I'm just too clumsy. Cheers!

[@chianti95]

@@TomsCoffeeCornerthere’s a guy on YT who added a rubber or maybe a silicone band to the top of his DF54 and the bellows stay on when slipped over it. Worth a try …kzbin.infowKjuCxohpKo?si=5ba685acDnnQVg4w

[@danachalamet1872]

Thank you for this very pleasant and thorough review (I so enjoyed you!). It definitely confirmed my decision to purchase the DF54. 🥳

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Glad it was helpful, and thanks for watching!

[@TwainB]

Just bought one!! Thanks, Tom. Really informative content for us starting this journey 👏

[@ThatIndyFan]

How are you liking it so far? I have the smart grinder pro and I know a DF54 would be a big upgrade but I’m worried about the difficulty of dialing in with the DF54.

[@FaithAndCoffeeBean]

I am really thinking about getting one!!! Great video Tom, love your channel ☕️👍🏽😎 hello from Florida ☕️

[@kitcraft9516]

I said it on another video, but this is the grinder that I didn't know I was waiting for. There is nothing "wrong" with my ESP but I think I'd like the adjustability and workflow on this better. Plus, the ESP can stick around for decaf. Thank you for the video, as always! Looking forward to the next one.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

For repeated, every day use, I honestly prefer a hoppered version myself. But the quality on this is certainly better than the ESP.

[@kitcraft9516]

I get that but I don't much care for hopper dosing with the ESP. If it was something with a timer function, sure. @@TomsCoffeeCorner

[@iggyman83]

The small footprint, the fact it's flats not conical, and the ease of cleaning makes this a a real winner. This will be one that people remember for what it did for espresso enthusiasts. Keep up the great content, too!

[@craigerickson-z9q]

Today's date Aug 9. Just bought the Delonghi ECP 3420 . Soppose to get it Mon the 12th. Niw looking for a grinder and I think I will go with this. The DF54. Thanks for the review and useing the 3420 with it .

[@chinchorrero]

I love the DF54 grinder (For me was a game changer)

[@yoanperez172]

It's probably the best value for money grinder

[@chrisc7262]

I have been using the Sage/Breville Smart Grinder Pro for years, paired with a Rancilio Silvia, but this does look like a worth while upgrade, if I can adapt to a single does work flow. Thanks for the review!

[@Johnnybananass-_]

I have the sage/breville smart grinder pro and now seriously looking at the df54. its so cheap but such a great design and reviews re all amazing

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

It's about the same price, and it's way nicer than the SGP.

[@pogromcywgniecen4666]

Great test, I I'm waiting for availability in Poland, just like the Apex express.

[@JW-ez1kt]

Tom you’re the greatest.. great video

[@joanchristineflores1172]

Question: for espresso purposes. Conical burrs or flat burrs and why? Thank you.

[@milyon0323]

What is the advantage of getting the DF54 over D40+? I'm on the fence trying to compare your comment on tasting notes. The tasting notes for D40+ sounded more interesting while for DF54 it was just 'balanced'.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

I like the stability of the build and the grind adjustment better on the DF54, and the deionizer. For a taste test, I'd have to try comparing them side by side. You know, beans make quite the difference, and the amount of time the machine has been warmed up. That can also influence perception in taste. Cheers!

[@SebastianCristanchoYT]

Hey how does this compare to the MiiCoffee D40+ or the SK40?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

I like it much better. It's just way more solid. And the de-ionizer is sweet.

[@vsepotap]

You also use plastic caliper, which is "not so precise due to it's non rigindess". Love you so much!

[@МаксимМухаметов-о9п]

Hi Tom Can you compare it with Kingrinder K2 in terms of grinding, regardless of price and convenience? I have a K2 and was wondering if I get anything if I buy the DF54 other than the electric motor?

[@mtnlover]

I am excited at this option! Thank you for sharing. We have the SK40: I was excited to get a stepless grinder that was affordable. Control was really good for grind size. The only disappointment is that I thought the flavor is a bit muddled. We use mostly light to medium roast single origin and want the unique flavors to come through. I know flat burrs are more recommended for this, but we couldn't afford 500 for one. In your opinion, does this 54 mil flat burr improve flavor enough to notice from the SK40? Can you do a comparison of the two, seeing as they are priced in the same ballpark? Thank you!

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Well, this also has espresso focused burrs inside. So, I am guessing neither will be tuned for pour over. Maybe someone else has more input on this? I don't do a ton of pour over...

[@mtnlover]

We do mostly espresso. occassionally a pourover @@TomsCoffeeCorner

[@andyrawlins]

Great video, thanks Tom. How does this compare to the D40+ that you reviewed recently please? I'm unsure about the difference between conical and flat burr grinders.

[@joleau1]

Yes, am wondering too. I have the D40+. Am really happy with it. Quiet, fluffy grounds, very low retention and grinds so fine. So am really curious how it fares in comparison with the flat burr DF54.

[@joleau1]

DF54 I understand has alignment issues, which is pretty common?

[@andyrawlins]

@@joleau1 oh! Could you elaborate please?

[@joleau1]

@@andyrawlins from some reviews I read. Also miicoffee has a video about it titled How to align fd54 burrs. I believe it could have been a handful of units or a production batch which may have somehow missed the QC and could be sent back to be fixed.

[@Dennis_To]

Already pre-ordered DF54

[@kattlopena3809]

me too.. i can’t wait. this will be my first electric grinder so i’m a little giddy. watched all the review i can get my hands into since i’m indecisive but i jumped the gun

[@HenryPiffpaff]

So, what's your opinion on it? :)

[@Dennis_To]

@@HenryPiffpaff a little bit disappointed, plasma generator real crap, after every 50-60 grams required to clean it or use water spay on beans

[@HenryPiffpaff]

@@Dennis_To hmm, okay :/ and taste-wise?

[@Dennis_To]

@@HenryPiffpaffwith taste all fine for me

[@kerisek11]

Who sell this in the Europe? Miicoffee in the link has free shiping in the USA, but 100 euro shipping in the EU (even for 150euro machines)

[@jimmythefish]

I’d consider this as a second grinder (paired with a hopper grinder) for decaf and trying other beans out.

[@RavenSWE]

That’s a good idea, I never bother running 2 different beans in parallel because I don’t like to lose the setting, this could be a little brother to my DF83!

[@DFC931]

I just ordered the product and wait to arrive. Does the bellow do its job? Or should i buy another? Another question - for a 51 mm portafilter how much g of coffee should i dose for a single and a double shot of espresso? Thank you very much

[@noControl556]

Really wish that was available a couple of years ago. I started out with a Mignon Facile for about $150 more, then spent another $100 on a bellows hopper and an updated dial system. Works out ok but really have to work the bellows to get all the retention out and still holds on to about .2g you can see switch from light to dark roast. I've added the new DF64 gen II and it's great so would expect this to perform similarly.

[@theodorehartman5086]

In the low cost category you didn't mention the Baratza Encore ESP. So I think everybody assumes the DF 54 would do a better job making espresso grinds because that's all it can do. Please do a head to head comparison if you can. With all of these grinder reviews and there have been tons in the last two or three months I don't see the encore ESP much but when I do the reviewers seem to think it's the all to end all so anyway I'd like to see how the ESP stacks up

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Well, they're quite different. Conical vs Flat. Hoppered vs single dose. I like the ESP for it's workflow, and DF54 for its quality. But they're both quite capable.

[@ac27934]

The Encore ESP clumps, so you have to use WDT, unlike the DF54 with its plasma ionizer.

[@goldfish8196]

Tom could you please make a comparison between the d40 and the df54? Conical vs flat - Thanks

[@What_If_We_Tried]

Tom, thanks so much for this fantastic review, and the DF consortium of manufacturers seemed to have hit it out of the park with this grinder, and the OG grinder companies are going to have to rethink their business models to stay relevant (-at least for the domestic market). Question: What's the noise level of the DF54 like compared to the Eureka Mignon Specialita?

[@kattlopena3809]

hey tom, can you make a video talking about the differences of cold start and hot start. the pros and cons.. there’s really not a whole lot of videos talking about it here

[@benzmobil]

Thats a very promising grinder! Where I live it costs almost the same as specialita (around 350 euro) which makes it the direct competitor.

[@juliancompagnucci1081]

Would you pick this over a Eureka mignon Manuale? I`m kind of espresso lean towards

[@zski1]

Is it better to adjust the grinder while the motor is on or it doesn’t matter? I’m having a hard time dialing in. I adjust while the motor is off in small increments but it’s not consistent. My puck pre and dose hasn’t changed.

[@blackforest_fairy]

is this grinder only for espresso or can it do a good filter coffee too? i need a decent all purpose single dose grinder.

[@weirdflex271]

Just ordered mine on Monday. Says it should be here Thursday, pretty stoked about it.

[@HenryPiffpaff]

So, what's your opinion on it? :)

[@weirdflex271]

@@HenryPiffpaff It’s been great. I would definitely recommend it for a cost efficient option that looks really good. Takes a little time to dial in but performs like a champ. No regrets at all with this purchase.

[@donaldduck9214]

Great and detailed review as usual, please allow me to ask if i could fit my 51mm portafilter on the cup's place,so that ican have the coffee grinding straight in my portafilter(sorry, English not my mother language)

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Yes, it fits well, but you'll still have to hold the handle, or it will fall down. Cheers!

[@johnmercado6138]

How would this compare in grind quality to a manual grinder like the J-max/ultra

[@PubRunner]

Interesting video thanks. On the Italian design thing we had a Rocket Giotto it looked pretty but in the two and a half years we had it. It went through 2 elements and then leaked and took out the controller. Now we have a Breville Oracle it is 5 years old and the steam boiler just died and it makes hands down better shots than the Giotto ever did. So we are going to be another Oracle a certified referb for $950 AU

[@yourcoffecup]

Hi! Do you know does this burrs fit in Eureka Mignon without making new holes?)

[@olew.9402]

Great video Is the machine suitable for getting started with light roasts?

Hey Tom, is the dosing cup holder on the DF54 also compatible with a 51mm cup?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

No, it's too large for that, you'll need a funnel. Cheers!

[@otajonh]

Difference from this and DF64 GEN2?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

I think the design is about the same, but with a beefier motor, at 250 watts, instead of 150 watts.

[@otajonh]

🤔🤔🤔

[@beozzie690]

Oh nice Tom.. I still think you need to take the show on the road! Starnberg is a lovely place to start! We have a lake, and definitely in need of some great espresso instruction 😅

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Is that an invitation?

[@beozzie690]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner anytime mate.

[@GoonieGooGoo910]

The build looks similar to the other DF series. Since you mentioned a DF83, I own a DF83v2. I have consistentcy issues with it. Meaning, light-medium roast, I find I have to adjust the grind size on back to back shots by a significant amount. After about 6 grind sessions I can go from 8 down to 4. I’m wondering if the DF54 behaves similarly? I never figured out the problem with the DF83 but am guessing it might be heat related. This looks like a neat grinder and I might be tempted if I did not own the Baratza Vario W+, which I find great for batch brewing.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

The setting really shouldn't be walking like that. I'd contact the seller and see if you can get a replacement, or if maybe he can point you in the right direction to fix that walking...

[@wolverinegnr]

Hi Tom is this an upgrade from a k4 Kingrinder? Thanks

[@CelioAdilson]

Super. I just wish it was a bit lighter because the weight has a big influence on shipping.

[@BigBenAdv]

Great review on the DF54! It does seem like a most excellent budget option and if I didn't already own a (1st gen DF64), I'd buy this. Qn: Does it have an easily removable chute for cleaning?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Nope, you have to remove several screws after removing the upper burr chamber. So, I'd say no it's not easy.

[@MrCrownJ]

Just ordered one to go with a cafelat. Thanks!

[@horseshoeoverlook6057]

As a European I’m looking for a grinder that does espresso and drip coffee really well. Think the Wilfa uniform is my best option still.

[@jason0938]

I have been going back and forth on decision for grinder and had just landed on the Turin SK40. Would this be a big upgrade since it has a larger flat burr? I mostly espresso but like to switch it up to a French press sometimes. Is this worth the wait and is it that much better than the sk40?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Some people like flat over conical, or vice versa. I like this better than the SK40, just because the grinder is physically much more stout in its build.

[@RayDinkha]

Thanks Tom as always great reviews. Would you recommend this over the D40?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Yes, absolutely it's a nicer grinder.

[@ppanagopo]

Hello Tom, I have a Gaggia classic pro paired with a Sage Smart grinder and looking for a grinder upgrade to flat burr, I am between the DF54 and the eureka mignon zero, can you make a suggestion?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Well, I haven't tried the Zero yet, but I bet they'll be similar. Similar burr geometry, same burr size, very low retention. But the Eureka has the heritage and spare parts availability. I'd probably get the DF to save some cash, honestly.

[@ppanagopo]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thanks for answering

[@DamnZodiak]

It's kinda annoying that it has to be restated with each one of these DF grinders but this does not cost 220 quid in Europe. It's AT LEAST 320 after shipping and taxes. Probably more. EDIT: just checked. It's 325 in Germany.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

You are right about that. I should’ve checked first and included that in the video. I did do a write up of it on my website, in the last section: tomscoffeecorner.com/df54-review/

[@HUS2010oe]

Hi tom Currently am using the df54 with my stilosa with a bottomless portafilter. I've been getting machine leaking all the time and I don't know why it used to be fine. any ideas tom?

[@hickoco7231]

Often wandered what the impact is of the screws within the burrs. The burr cutting edges and geometry are so carefully engineered but yet they then have great holes, edges and screw heads where the screws are. Is this just a shortcut/cost saving compared to putting the screws somewhere else? Or does it really not matter to the resulting grinds?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

They need the holes to mount the burrs to their carriers. There are however some grinders with ghost burrs, which are mounted differently. But that's also more expensive...

[@RakanWD]

Seems to be a nice entry level grinder. People on budget nowadays have more options.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Heck yeah, it's a nice time to be in the hobby.

[@Yessir432]

Thanks Tom! Would you recommend this over the Sage Smart Grinder and Escore ESP for espresso?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

@@Yessir432 yes sir! It’s a much nicer grinder, build wise, and can be dialed in better in my opinion.

[@kevinwardhana8596]

Nice video, can you recommend DF54 or breville smart pro for espresso making? Many thanks

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

@@kevinwardhana8596 DF54. Cheers

[@tomlouisbleck147]

Nice Video, is this one also available in Germany with EU/german plug (230V/50Hz)?

[@dennispronk6403]

my espresso tastes very sour when I grind with the df64 with the hand grinder it tastes good can it be a bad alignment?

[@wolverinegnr]

Hi Tom What was the clicking sound when you were screwing the top burr back on? I noticed you backed off Thanks

[@anomalousresult]

It was the burrs meeting.

[@funyuns101]

Tom, Thoughts on this vs. the DF64 gen2? Is the 64mm version worth the cost up?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

I'd go for this. The price is incredible. 64mm allows you to try different burrs, which I think is the main attraction to paying more for the D64.

[@rxonmymind8362]

Would have been nice to know the loudness rstings on these grinders. My Kitchenaid espresso grinder (Model: KCG8433ER ) is 66-70db. Pretty damn quiet.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

I should do a comparison of all the grinders I have. Good idea for a video.

[@rxonmymind8362]

@TomsCoffeeCorner Woot. That would be awesome. Keeping the wife and kids asleep is important when making espresso in the am. I have the Kitchenaid Model: KCG8433ER and it runs around 70-76db? Not bad if you ask me.

[@tom_nuyts]

Surely a bargain with decent price performance ratio; but I opted for a 65 mm grinder (sold in Germany as EMIL T64, or BG T64 in Asia), which costs "only" about 429 € for comparison: faster and broader applicable grinder size (but for nearly double the costs..)

[@benjaminaguilera8097]

Is that the DF64 but with a different case?

[@tom_nuyts]

@@benjaminaguilera8097 not really - its better in my eyes -I prefer it much in comparison because of better design, construction (no plasma fuzz necessary) and functionality (magnetic chute, nicer grinding adjustment), better price

[@benjaminaguilera8097]

@@tom_nuyts huh. i'm on the market for a grinder so i'll research it. thank you!

[@tom_nuyts]

@@benjaminaguilera8097 look at my answer above- for me it's a further development into direction of Lagom...

[@BASSlineXX1207]

How does it compare to e.g. a Eureka Manuale which is around the same price point? I get they are designed differently with the DF being single dose, but how does the result in the cup compare?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

I am guessing very, very similar. The burr design looks nearly identical to be honest. I mean, I’ve never tried the Manuale, but this would be my best guess.

[@Schnabeltierx]

Servus Tom, Thank you for the awesome review! I’ve also read your blogpost about this machine and in the end you state that “for that [price in Germany] you could get a Eureka Mignon Manuale, Classico, or nearly a Specialita”, which makes it sound like those could be the better deal. The DF54 currently is 330€, the Eureka Mignon Zero costs about the same here. Which one would you recommend getting? For my use case I highly value low retention and build quality. Or would it make more sense to spend a bit more and go for the DF64 Gen2 (490€), EMIL T64 (450€), or Eureka Single Dose (560€)? Any advice is appreciated. Thank you!

[@sidharthdhawan3938]

Hi Tom, love your videos, would this grinder combo with the dual boiler be a good setup? Thanks

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Yes, I think so. It's a very good grinder, similar to the Specialita, which is my go to grinder. Cheers!

[@Keigan2well]

Hi Tom it seems that im still on the fence weather to get df54 or varia VS3, all i can say is in my country the DF54 is cheaper compared to varia vs3, im a little bit worried about the retention on df54 based on the post i read in reddit. Varia got almost zero retention but its a conical burr grinder. I only drink latte twice a day using picopresso setup. tired of hand grinding thats why im looking for an electric grinder.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

For me, the DF54 also has little to no retention - maybe 0.1 grams after the initial use. I haven't tried the VS3, so I cannot comment to that.

[@Earendilvingilot13]

I should have waited for this instead of opus fellow even tho I don’t have any complaints with it beside the confusing dialing in.

[@listenu]

Ditto... Watching all the opus adjustment videos drove me insane. But I think I have it figured out now. But I would have chosen this grinder if I would have done a bit more research.

[@dimitriosbolbasis6896]

How does it compare to the eureka specialita?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

I should compare them side to side. I think it's gonna be about the same. Same burr diameter, and geometry looks super similar also.

[@tommuller6136]

Hi Tom will you review the P-series of the KinGrinder now that the K series isnt available in Europe ?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Why isn't the K series available? Are they on backorder?

[@tommuller6136]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner apparently a german Brand files a report against the k Series. Thats what they seid on their instagram account

[@tommuller6136]

@@TomsCoffeeCornersome company sued them apparently because of the K series

[@Yagizino]

Wouldnt the notte be more comparable to this machine just for the price range? How does it fare against the notte. Here in europe specialita is around 100€ more than df54

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

I think they'll be very very similar, but the Notte will grind faster and has more heritage.

[@jeet-Seattle]

Tom do you recommend flat burr or conical burr? Most people think conical is better.thank you

[@LLS.R]

It’s not about better. It’s about a different flavour profile.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

I have gotten great shots from both. Flat is more versatile though, as you can switch the burrs out to others.

[@jeet-Seattle]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thanks Tom all the informative videos..

[@jeet-Seattle]

@@LLS.R thanks

[@Jameson-r2b]

Hello, how does it compare to the older df64 gen 1? Because here in my country they are priced the same. If you have a recommendation on the issue i thank you.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Sorry, never used the DF64 before...

[@7moodalfar7an]

My df54 wobbles on the table and overheat to the point it stops working and starts smoking .. what’s wrong with it?

[@TheGandravi]

Great video, this one and the others about affordable grinders, love your channel. Do you have a suggestion how to buy this from Europe, Serbia and not to spend 400 EUR with shipping taxes?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Europe charges import fees - no way around that.

[@TheGandravi]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner Can you please review the DeLonghi KG521 grinder?

[@billsarify]

There will be a 220volt version for Europe?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Yes!👍🏻

[@HUS2010oe]

Which one to pick df54 or the sage smart grinder pro? . For my ecp3420

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

DF54 is a much nicer grinder. Cheers!

[@HUS2010oe]

How about the fellow opus comparing it to the df54? Which to recommend

[@FourIntoOne]

For the money it looks like a good option - but only if single dosing for espresso is you thing. The Opus and Baratzza encore esp offer a better use case for more general use maybe but this is certainly gonna be a success I reckon

[@LOLBTLOLBT]

Flat burr, stepless, ionizer, 0 .1g retention, full metal for $200? C'mon, blow them out of the water

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

This certainly beats the Opus. ESP is still good for hoppered use though.

[@ConstantineXXVI]

Awesome videos Tom! I am torn between this one and the Specialita. What would you suggest? I could actually get the Specialita for around 100euros more. I could still SD the specialita. But the build/quality etc seems to be better on the Specialita. Just the small dial could be a challenge. What do you recommend between the 2 for a first timer and just drinking espresso? Thanks.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Idk. They are both pretty excellent. I think I would go for the Eureka for potential resale value, if you ever sell it. But honestly, they’re both very good.

[@ToddHassett]

Hi Tom, have you tested with the Baratza Encore ESP? If so, how does the DF54 compare? Do you prefer one over another? I would be looking to do both pour over and espresso.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

The DF54 is a nicer grinder all around, I'd say. But it's different in a lot of ways - single doser, it's slow, but more premium build, chinese designed, and flat burrs vs conical. The ESP is more convenient to use if you're not switching beans and don't want to single dose.

[@ToddHassett]

Makes sense. I do prefer a medium to darker roast for pour over and a lighter roast for espresso. Sounds like maybe you’d lean more towards the DF54 for those roasting profiles?

[@HenryChinaski614]

I just received mine and was wondering what the best setting number would be for espresso with a La Pavoni? It’s my first grinder. Thanks!

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Well it depends on your bean, but I'd try 12-14.

[@HenryChinaski614]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thanks so much!

[@HenryChinaski614]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner Hello again. What bean do you recommend? Thanks! DW

[@adrianravinsky8418]

hey! im considering the DF54 to pair with my europiccola too. have you been pleased with your results?

[@HenryChinaski614]

@@adrianravinsky8418 Hello, and thanks for the note. I couldn’t be happier with this grinder, but have no basis for comparison. I will say that the combination of the two produce the best espresso i have ever had though. And, fresh roasted beans are a must, and make a huge difference in quality. I order from COFFEEBEANSDIRECT, excellent, fresh beans, great customer service, and a very reasonable price. I get the Medium Roast Espresso whole beans. The darker roast espresso was too oily for the machine and gummed it up. Also, COFFEESENSOR, the company has been a great resource for parts, and the owner, Tudor, has taught me everything I know about the LA PAVONI. I highly recommend, and hope this helps. Thanks, DW

[@nztitirangi]

great timing thanks, helped me decide on the sage.

[@goldfish8196]

Tom, which portafilter did you use on these video?

[@amr_e]

Great video Tom! I have a silly question, does the wooden lid sits in place if you don't use the bellow at all?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Nope, it doesn't...

[@amr_e]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner thanks Tom! I’ll probably order the df64 gen 2 anyway

[@benediktschramm1500]

Lohnt sich der Umstieg vom Smart Grinder pro?

[@SatanLiterally]

#DF54 I'm definitely interested. Been looking to upgrade my grinder. I don't have an espresso machine yet, kinda torn between getting a Flair or a similarly priced machine. I wonder if the Flair 58 is better than a machine priced around the same or not though.

[@s96822]

it will be very popular no doubt. in asia there is a 60mm flat titanium burr single dose with bellows grinder for about the price of df54. "Coffee Grinder 520N"