Juan Pujol Garcia and Thirtynineitude: Citation Needed 8x03

Our traditional Wartime Badass Episode this week, albeit a wartime badass whose weapon included expense reports.
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[@TomScottGo]

On the assumption that most of last week's comments were "how did you comment a week ago": the whole season gets uploaded and scheduled in one go, including these comments!

[@grand776]

Tom Scott new episode!!!!!!

[@MisterAppleEsq]

I'm glad you noticed that people comment that. I bet they won't stop.

[@jhfridhem]

why was this commented 2 weeks ago?

[@grand776]

jhfridhem read the comment

[@addityasinghal897]

Amazing. And thanks for the video!

[@MisterAppleEsq]

2:35 Oh yeah, Operation Mincemeat! I heard about that from a KZbin video, from some guy with a red t-shirt. I wonder what he's doing now?

[@Wirenfeldt1990]

Never heard of him

[@darren8453]

Faked his death and moved to Antigua I heard

[@CaffeinatedTech]

Dresses like Bart Simpson?

[@ArsenGaming]

Who was that

[@MTecs]

Mister Apple Who? Mickey Moose?

[@mattsnyder4754]

I understand why you’re moving on from Citation Needed. But this episode really feels like the show in its prime.

[@thelastcube.]

ikr, this is my favourite episode of CN

[@yfar7550]

The jack churchill episode almost killed me

[@QuinsonHonQBB123XX]

Thanda Paani Good comedy + good article = best episode of the series

[@ArifRWinandar]

Which means it's the best time to stop the show.

[@SaraWolffs]

"Leave them wanting more." And god did they ever.

[@Robo0595]

8:16 I don't know that I've ever seen Chris nail a point harder and more effortlessly than this one.

[@georgelloydgonzalez]

The Turra Coo episode: [Why did the judge give a "Not proven" verdict?] I suppose that in this instance it's just that nobody would testify

[@skthejanner]

Balloon shaped tanks, the Zeppelins of the floor

[@markpenrice6253]

But how would you weigh them down? Seems they might have to be made out of, e.g. some kind of Heavy Metal.

[@rin_etoware_2989]

Mark Penrice normal air?

[@Flaruwu]

@@markpenrice6253 they tied them to the ground. Like Gary joked one of them actually did start flying because they forgot to tie it down and they rushed to stop it from flying away and the Germans didn't notice.

[@lunaangeleclipse9745]

@@markpenrice6253 Wow did no one notice this pun

[@genericembarrassingusernam7843]

@@markpenrice6253 aaaaaaaahh

[@timothymclean]

3:50: "The Spy Who Wasn't". I'd watch that James Bond prequel. 7:07: "From Bovril to Garbo." Not sure I'd want to see _that_ James Bond prequel... 12:25: "A Secret Cache of Nazis." If that was a Bond film, we'd _know_ the series had jumped the shark.

[@ErkkiMattila]

Last one sounds more indianajonesy title to me

[@JasperJanssen]

ErkkiMattila exactly, a secret cache of Nazis is the follow up to kingdom of the crystal skull. Or maybe it’s the subtitle....

[@ShroudedWolf51]

>Implying the Bond films haven't jumped the shark multiple times.

[@subduedreader5627]

In the novel Moonraker, Drax was a Nazi, so...

[@zach7482]

"a secret cache of Nazis" sounds like the Trump presidency.

[@welshdragon99]

I can see you guys beginning to tire of the format but not losing comic chemistry. It's probably just as well that this great series is going out now while it's still good. Looking forward to your next project

[@Tara19040]

@@luelou8464 Personally I hope they do more of the 'Tabletop Timemachine' which they pioneered on the Matt and Tom channel.

[@welshdragon99]

@@luelou8464 I know that, that's why I said I'm looking forward to their next project

[@HanabiraKage]

@@Tara19040 Honestly the Tabletop Time Machine is just Citation Needed with a different name and premise. It's otherwise identical gameplay-wise. Tom gives hints, the other guys guess facts.

[@milograamans2]

I thought this was one of the best episodes yet...

[@krim7]

I actually think the audience is the problem. They act very differently when in front of a crowd than when they are just in someone's kitchen.

[@peril7531]

My goal in life is to leave a legacy that will one day have a Wikipedia article dedicated to it that will, one day, be read and bantered about in front of a live studio audience

[@_mels_]

Subtitler's note is amazing, thanks for doing that job, whoever you are!!

[@ntlespino]

Soobtitlay!

[@derkateramabend]

Tom actually does the subtitles himself for CitNee I believe

[@GumSkyloard]

Tom!

[@davejermy2325]

"All you can eat garlic and steak restaurant" would be better...

[@recklessroges]

Why?

[@nanianmichaels]

@@recklessroges Steaks are usually weapons that can kill vampires. Also, the steak was Buffy the Vampire Slayer's (which clearly influenced this play on words) go-to weapon to kill vampires, in the series.

[@TheMan83554]

@@recklessroges Stakes kill vampires, and steaks are delicious.

[@drdca8263]

TheMan83554 stakes are also delicious (if you are a beaver) (Ok actually idk if beavers actually eat the wood or just bite it. Maybe termites instead.)

[@alansmithee419]

Hunting vampires also has high stakes.

[@veggiet2009]

That's an amazing story! The Wikipedia article notes that several feature films have been attempted but none have made it into production, I can't wait for the day when that happens!

[@icedragonair]

I used to have no interest in WW2, cause all i had seen were those sad soldier movies hollywood kept putting out, and theyre so god damn boring. But then i started to watch lindybeiges stuff on tanks and WW2 as well as reading anecdotes of what regular people were up to at the time, the various strategies and schemes that happened, and its freaking amazing. So much amazing human ingenuity and bravery was displayed in that relatively short period and some of the stuff that happened, if i read it in a fiction book id be like "thats totally unrealistic, that would never happen". WW2 was a showcase of both the best and the worts humans can be.

[@TheSneezingAnouki]

I am such a nerd, I knew who they were going to talk about the moment Tom said Garcia didn't know much about England

[@Cruxador]

Same. Made me think I was watching a rerun that I'd partially forgotten, though the upload date checks out.

[@Pencilneckgeek216]

This story would make an excellent movie. WW2 comedy drama? Yes please

[@Airguardian]

*Historical* comedy drama

[@lodziklocPL]

There are already several movies about Garbo.

[@empath69]

@@lodziklocPL Nope! A couple of documentary films, and a couple of tv programmes, but while there have been a pile of projects to make feature films, none has ever reached production. (guess the money people keep thinking "l know it's actually what happened, but if we present this as fiction, we'd lose the audience - no one would believe us")

[@lodziklocPL]

@@empath69 Ah yes, you are right, of course. Silly me missed the "comedy drama" part of the sentence. :V

[@thelastcube.]

This is now my favourite Citation Needed episode ever

[@kroushtwilight5487]

12:27 "70 years later they're back." Tom, with The Angry Orange in office here in the states; THIS comment cracked me up more than the shepard's pie joke (and associated subtitled comment) xD

[@demonking86420]

whats he talking about

[@beth12svist]

To me it's more sad than hilarious - which frankly is often the case with topical satire.

[@OriginalPiMan]

Moreso than any previous episode, this demonstrates that the winner is decided randomly.

[@markpenrice6253]

You have to count the dings and who they go to. Don't know if Biscuits count for anything. Of course, there could be several dings that are lost in the edit.

[@lawrencecalablaster568]

Shepard Spy- shepherd's pie! That's what that weird subtitle joke on Twitter was about.

[@joshuahadams]

Shepherd spy...

[@robburgess4556]

That may be the best thing I've ever heard on the internet

[@CuzicanAerospace]

I'm still booing. And rewinding. And booing again. For five minutes straight.

[@JeremiahFrye]

Are you sure you weren't baaaing?

[@CuzicanAerospace]

@@JeremiahFrye Positive. But I do feel like I got fleeced.

[@robburgess4556]

@@CuzicanAerospace And now you're feeling sheepish?

[@TheInternetHelpdeskPlays]

Having a Citation binge. Loving every episode again.

[@daviddieffenderfer]

This is hilarious! Great to have the series go out on a bang.

[@Zadster]

You know the bit about the inflatable tank floating off and how it should be in a film? It was used in the recent Dad's Army "tribute" film, mode mostly on location in Bridlington (which is of course in Yorkshire, where else). CGI tanks sadly.

[@bt_18]

"Nazis, you know, 70 years later they're back" OOOOH, SATIRE

[@GeorgeSmithCoD]

I really didn't expect that joke from Tom

[@HexatheonRPG]

@@GeorgeSmithCoD really? did you miss his hilariously out of touch video about trump during the election?

[@KCzz15]

Tom Scott is great for comedy and general info about cool things and places, but it's best to steer well clear on the political front.

[@daanwilmer]

You should make a hoodie out of that!

[@johnnyboy3949]

Amplify you mean mad cap’n Tom?

[@insertcheesypunhere]

yo someone needs to get like taika waititi on this

[@JonesNate]

2:08 -- turn on subtitles. Trust me.

[@_Oli___]

I hate to break it to you but Garbo was part of Op Mincemeat.

[@trainboyben7718]

Code name: BRANDY

[@rubenyoranpc]

Thats what I thought it was gonna be

[@camerondaly96]

I was so disappointed that one of them didn't say this

[@TwoWholeWorms]

Mine'd definitely end up being Cirrhosis. o.o

[@markpenrice6253]

*𝓑𝓡𝓐𝓝𝓓𝓨

[@zyaicob]

his initials are .jpg

[@kaziiqbal7257]

I can imagine the lads in the MI5 office giggling just like they are.

[@MTecs]

Oi Tom Scot!!!!! Tell us that Garry would do the Garry's Special Effects: Goose on the Train on the Grand Finale, or better yet please surprise us!

[@FeyTheBin]

I applaud the subtitler for this one, hats off to you, friend!

[@olivergs9840]

Tom, you could have the prize be Persia full of chest bones. Iraq of ribs

[@ink7761]

Mesopotamia, not persia

[@historymysteries4134]

Best episode ever!

[@DarylVanHumbeck]

I have seen this episode twice so far, and yes, I am watching it again. You guys are so hilarious it's definitely worth it!

[@anttibjorklund1869]

"Matt is closest without going over" Matt's guess was 10.92 USD

[@JouvaMoufette]

I mean, hey, when everyone else goes over, the "1 dollar bid" wins

[@levimcglinchey5843]

This is the most interesting episode! What a legend.

[@polsaez4889]

Amazing story, I'm from Barcelona and had never heard of Joan Pujol

[@jocax188723]

Subtitles at 2:05. DAMMIT GARY YOU'VE STUMPED THE SUBTITLER

[@donaldasayers]

I spend way too much time in Wikipedia, you look one thing up and jump to another and suddenly you are reading about Thomas Midgley Jn or Juan Pujol Garcia.

[@junkjouster]

Tom Scott you need to do a video on the cultural differences between a English nerd and an American nerd.

[@BobMcCoy]

*_Wikipedia wants to know your location_*

[@OliverLMinecraftMachine]

@Tokisaki Kurumi yes we are not stupid

[@cybergeek11235]

@@OliverLMinecraftMachine well, to be fair, we ARE in the KZbin comments section. It's not an UNreasonable assumption...

[@Liggliluff]

(10:50) Germany paying a person in Britain ... given in USD? Weird

[@kiwigaming09]

They probably used USD in the video as it's a very well known currency

[@cuteypetz]

I recently learned about this person in the Spy Museum in Berlin! Always nice to see these vids when I know what the heck's going on XD

[@shaunhouse8634]

I imagine Gary has been waiting 8 years for the opportunity to make the Shepherd'spies gag.

[@state_song_xprt]

YOU'RE FINALLY DOING GARBO!

[@alansmithee419]

The greatest not-a-spy spy of all time.

[@jcxz983]

Hey, they are back on form. This one was hilarious.

[@JlerchTampa]

I feel the need to repeat what has already been said: "That was really great!"

[@duncanmurphy8085]

Pounds don't make sense? No they don't make cents.

[@PinkThorn242]

12:22 Well there were still Japanese soldiers in the 1950s and 60s who either didn't believe the war was over or simply didn't know.

[@mebamme]

"aglio can eat" was an excellent pun though.

[@lennardodavinci6350]

ah, you british really think we are back, but we were never gone the moon has suprisingly good wifi

[@royalninja2823]

The thing I'm gonna miss most about this show is the prizes. Well, obviously the amazing chemistry between you four too, but mostly the prizes.

[@CBG232x5]

This is the best thing ever. I have waited all week for this.

[@Keythong]

Has there been any movies made on Bovril/Garbo, because it's one hell of a story!

[@usagi2934]

Never thought I'd like these kind of stuff and here I am

[@Goatcha_M]

"We are in England, and what doi we do when we are in England? "We Play Cricket"

[@OneSlickCricket]

I'm dying at Codename 'Garbo'. Where I'm from it's slang for garbage.

[@pinkula]

It's clearly because he's taking the trash out

[@georgelloydgonzalez]

It was a reference to actress Greta Garbo

[@kawag2780]

That is an epic story! One of my favourites from the series!

[@TheDiggster13]

This guy needs a film made about him!

[@stuartblagrove4980]

The end joke should have been 'Alli-yum' (Allium sativum)

[@kaionlife]

oh i ironically read this article in its entirety before huh

[@avk42]

it makes me sad that this is going to end. every episode was excellent

[@felixc543]

I like that Matt is just continually unprepared like I am

[@mistriousfrog]

This is among the best episodes.

[@MaximNightFury]

I love the inconsistency with rules. You say you won't get a point for saying that the subject isn't something, when you literally do that in other episodes

[@johnnychang4233]

Juan Pujol Garcia, the greatest spy of all time ;)

[@momiu00]

El nom correcte és JOAN, no juan

[@TypicallyThomas]

The English spelling is Juan. Check Wikipedia

[@ZeldaTheSwordsman]

I repeat: World War II was a trip

[@nathanielvalla6142]

Can anyone else quote this

[@Crazybean2012]

This episode took us on a wild ride

[@mukrifachri]

Now for a wikipedia article I just read before the episode comes up !

[@MarkusManon]

What a great story!!!

Greatest Catalan in History Joan Pujol i Garcia. By the way, his name is pronounece Joan as in JOO ann

[@mrminecraftean]

Eyyy, in the 10's for probabaly the only time ever!

[@williamabel2187]

fantastic episode

[@just-a-silly-goofy-guy]

Weird flex but ok

[@HONNEKI]

I see you everywhere

[@eleanor-forte]

Austin

[@zayyanabbas4958]

odd bragging, but very well

That's like the most Spanish name ever

[@blackoak4978]

Wow Tom, you actually managed to finish it worse than Gary's "Shepard Spy"...

[@ameliabrittain158]

This is great

[@AlexVoxel]

The prize is nice xD

[@kathrynblodgett1969]

I want to see this movie.

[@Ginger-hu2of]

Hey if you want another wartime badass try Eddie Chapman I recently read his Biography and it was rather interesting

[@lord_scrubington]

They actually added inflatable tanks to war thunder as an April fools joke.

[@mojosbigsticks]

Loved it but.. are you reusing the applause track? It sounds the same every single time.

[@varana]

It's the same audience for several episodes, so they tend to sound same-ish.

[@WhoAmIToDie]

Such a good EP. good laughs and an interesting subject.

[@Jonic_P]

As smart as the whole ploy was, I'd still hate to be the guy who either a) Missed out on the 3am message about D-Day b) Handed the double agent all the highest security codes and ciphers 😂😂😂

[@adammullarkey4996]

I'd be upset enough if I was the guy who mistook a bunch of balloons and plywood for an army.

[@AgentTasmania]

Adam Mullarkey When you can’t get within a Straits of Dover of the stuff without being shot I’d like to see you spot the difference

[@scorinth]

@@adammullarkey4996 Well, it's not like they were party balloons bobbing around on strings held by English children.

[@DomenBremecXCVI]

To be fair, I'd hate to be even close to the guys as that would make me a nazi.

[@midwestconcertvideo]

The information Garbo was producing was radioed from England to Spain, decrypted, and then re-encrypted using an Enigma machine for retransmission to Germany. Because his reports were so verbose, and it took a while to decode the original coded message and reencode it using an Enigma, that gave the code breakers the plain text for a huge amount of material. This obviously assisted Bletchley Park in decrypting the Enigma machine codes.

[@UODZU-P]

Hey I want to spy for you. Britain: No *_How about I do anyway!_*

[@duckles426]

If you keep an eye out, bill wurtz is everywhere

[@c3cil358]

hey just me or does the spy look like vsause

[@twojuiceman]

You could make a religion out of this

[@Haights]

Can we find him? NO Why? THE SPY IS A DUDE IN LISBON Not anymore, he's in London

[@twojuiceman]

@@Haights underrated comment

[@glenmoody-elias1040]

Fortitude 39itude And everyone jumps on "41itude" Everything is perfect. It's fantastic.

[@paulieglot]

I would have said that it came after Operation 41ed, and immediately preceded Operation 43ed.

[@jamesmccann5644]

@@paulieglot fortitude, fourty-tudde, 40-tude. Not fourty-two-i-tude

[@paulieglot]

Yes, it's Operation 42ed!

[@pjsans]

@@jamesmccann5644 Fourty-Twoed

[@ninnusridhar]

Additional fact! Garcia was a farmer. A Shepard! Branan deserves a point

[@fds7476]

No. Just no :D

[@onionbot2]

A shepherd spy!

[@sponge1234ify]

--MYSTERY BISCUITS--

[@mogaman28hm9]

A poultry farmer

[@StrokeMahEgo]

@@mogaman28hm9 chicken shepherd

[@ryanwillmon7689]

The limp guns were a legitimate issue. The inflatable tanks had to be pumped up more in the mornings and evenings because the cold made the pressure drop. Luckily, the staff reinflating the tanks looked like normal maintenance

[@joejasat]

Is there a phrase for the inverse of morning wood?

[@techno1561]

@@joejasat A nightstick?

[@panda4247]

@joejasat morning wouldn't

[@georgelloydgonzalez]

​@@panda4247 That was brilliant

[@jorgurmander9220]

Since I was a child in Spain, I've been obsessed with this story my father told me, didn't know the actual name of Garbo but when I heard about his birth year I noticed immediately, an awesome show, I love this!!!

[@sirrliv]

8:36: I can just see him dancing down the street anachronistically singing that tune from Willy Wonka: "I've got a golden codebook, I've got a golden codebook! I've got a golden chance to win the war!"

[@Thunderplunk]

It's been four years, and I still think Gary's "shepherd's pie" pun is the greatest thing these four have ever done.

[@NoNameAtAll2]

I don't get it do shepherds have famous pie recipy?

[@mirjanbouma]

​@@NoNameAtAll2shepherd's pie is a British dinner recipe.

[@HistoriaEtAl]

Some day i hope to make that joke without prior arrangement

[@falfires]

But Hail Cannon's "Why would you want that?!"...

[@oswald2286]

​@@falfires lest we forget the "very VERY frightening!"

[@MiguelVicoR]

Putting in expense reports for both sides whilst fighting fascism! That might be the most Catalan thing I've ever seen!! "The spy who Catfished the Third Reich" The movie writes itself! XD

[@ZipplyZane]

You've just written the title for the Fact Fiend episode.

[@midwestconcertvideo]

My favorite bit was the fictional spy in Liverpool who should have seen a convoy of ships in desert paint leaving port... so Garbo had that spy "die" of pneumonia... and got the Germans to pay his "widow" a pension.

[@sentineluk7]

"The Spy who sent expense forms from the cold"

[@WillBinge]

@@ZipplyZane yes.

[@gonkdroid4prez539]

@@midwestconcertvideo didn't he even get the british to print an obituary for the "spy"?

[@SECONDQUEST]

Subtitler's note: Gary's joke was goddamn fire

[@Ignideus]

THE WHEEL SPINS AND LANDS ON SPAIN

[@An_excellent_YouTube_account]

Ignideus it's not a wheel it's just a piece of cardboard that says France and the rest of the world.

[@TheBeardedQuack]

Lands on Germany, they sent us an enigma machine and a bunch of cash XD

[@An_excellent_YouTube_account]

Benjamin Fisher again it's not a wheel it's just a piece of cardboard that says "France" and "rest of the world"

[@theleva7]

That rare moment when it's not France. We should appreciate them moments more.

[@alansmithee419]

@@An_excellent_KZbin_account no, it is a piece of brie with frogs' legs sticking out of it.

[@chepulis]

I was expecting to watch fresh episodes of Citation Needed on my deathbed and i will be in naked protest until you announce six more seasons and a movie

[@nicktheloser2974]

Same mate.

[@chepulis]

@@piranha031091 i'm positive it doesn't

[@vaclav_fejt]

@@chepulis It depends. Are you HIV positive?

[@Dugiedugdug]

Would fully watch a movie length episode of Citation Needed

[@cosmicjenny4508]

+Dugiedugdug How about a Christmas special?

[@ianj1828]

I'm so sad you guys aren't doing this format anymore. This is just very enjoyable.

[@kevinbooth-]

I wish they'd try to sell the idea with Tom hosting on a major network with Matt alongside Alan Davies and 2 weekly guests....

[@seanboyd2898]

I think Table Top Time Machine could be polished up to this level.

[@kevinbooth-]

@@seanboyd2898 Agreed, though the format is harder on viewers I think

[@cesariojpn]

@@kevinbooth- They should have a roving cast of personalities, like what happened when Matt was replaced by two other guys in two other seasons for reasons. Like Lateral, only scrap the game show concept and have Tom moderate 3 people or two couples.

[@rewrose2838]

I think a lot of such formats can be polished up to this level, they just got too comfortable and wanted to branch out sooner

[@chrissgoalie]

This is so odd, I was reading this wikipedia article a week ago thinking "Oh wow, this would be a great citation needed episode"