Seymour Bernstein On Bach: Invention No. 1 (ft. Ben Laude)

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@FingersKungfu
@FingersKungfu Жыл бұрын
Seymour is still an ambitious pianist and dedicated teacher at 95. I'm speechless.
@Dennis-s8n
@Dennis-s8n Жыл бұрын
He's actually 96, born 24th of April 1927
@hildaomahony7498
@hildaomahony7498 Жыл бұрын
Unbelievable ❤ Music keeps you young
@tacitozetticci9308
@tacitozetticci9308 Жыл бұрын
wow 96???
@zenasm.savage1999
@zenasm.savage1999 Жыл бұрын
he seems like he still got some smack left.
@caydencarlson1309
@caydencarlson1309 Жыл бұрын
He is a beautiful man! I believe we all do love and respect him!❤❤❤
@pavaomrazek
@pavaomrazek Жыл бұрын
Man do you realise how lucky we all are that cameras and internet exsists so we can have one little masterclass with this genious every day!
@michellemonet4358
@michellemonet4358 Жыл бұрын
Is it every day??
@chmarie
@chmarie Жыл бұрын
Yes truly!
@stevebethhayward858
@stevebethhayward858 Жыл бұрын
Yes please... These videos are a true gift to us all! ❤🎶
@melinda395
@melinda395 Жыл бұрын
Agree. What we ought to do is find treasures like this in the internet instead of getting occupied with a lot of nonsense which we are also given free access.
@DrTWG
@DrTWG 7 ай бұрын
I don't , nor will I ever just take it for granted . I have learned so much being in this mega-library . Personally I think that Bach would never touch a fizz-box harpsichord if he could play a piano instead .
@joyceoneal3380
@joyceoneal3380 7 ай бұрын
His book With Your Own Two Hands changed my life. I'm 75 and still studying. Bless his heart.
@l.w.paradis2108
@l.w.paradis2108 7 ай бұрын
Yes. It is magnificent.
@Chunkertravel
@Chunkertravel 2 ай бұрын
a jew telling me what i should "pay"
@hylozoicVerse
@hylozoicVerse Жыл бұрын
"I think you're going to love it. And if you don't love it, pretend you love it." Love this part. We're so lucky to have this video, both of you are amazing!
@Chunkertravel
@Chunkertravel 2 ай бұрын
a jew telling me what i should "pay"
@ecksdee9768
@ecksdee9768 2 ай бұрын
@@Chunkertravelgreet greet antagonize
@jasonjansen9831
@jasonjansen9831 Жыл бұрын
Could listen to Seymour talk for 10 hours straight. Even when I don't agree with him. His passion, conviction, and insight is a treasure to the world of classical music.
@michellemonet4358
@michellemonet4358 Жыл бұрын
Im a Broadway Pop composer but i get so much inspiration from him. Mostly ..his passion and childlike entbusiasm for music.
@Chunkertravel
@Chunkertravel 2 ай бұрын
a jew telling me what i should "pay"
@sangmikang
@sangmikang Жыл бұрын
I really love how Prof. Bernstein motivates other piano players. He knows how to let others realize the “Ah-hah!!” moment.
@pianophase7060
@pianophase7060 Жыл бұрын
Clearly you listen to a lot of Bernstein
@ratboygenius
@ratboygenius Жыл бұрын
Regarding the Golden Ratio, I don't think listeners necessarily "notice" it, but when the performer notices it and treats it as a special moment listeners will especially be moved by it. Very nice playing!
@CougheePls
@CougheePls Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@catholicmetalhead398
@catholicmetalhead398 10 ай бұрын
It's subconsciously noticed as much as intervals are to the average listener.
@williamsackelariou1860
@williamsackelariou1860 9 ай бұрын
Bach was a musician not as far as l know a mathametician or had any real interest in maths he did however apply the principle of symettery to just about all his work😊😊
@zoltanszabados8445
@zoltanszabados8445 7 ай бұрын
Yes, I couldn’t agree more.
@Vextrove
@Vextrove 4 ай бұрын
KNOCK KNOCK IT'S ME THE RAT BOY GENIUS
@maeylamoy8148
@maeylamoy8148 Жыл бұрын
I am not a musician. As far as a musical instrument goes, I can hardly pat my head and rub my belly at the same time. But I am fascinated listening to him explaining and teaching this already trained musician about the concepts of this piece. “You see how charming it is?” Love it.
@darealbeesechurger
@darealbeesechurger Жыл бұрын
Every one of these lessons is fascinating!
@wrAIth-AI
@wrAIth-AI 11 ай бұрын
It's crazy to me how good you have to be for Seymour to be able to make you better. 😮
@CCLinGameOnABC
@CCLinGameOnABC Жыл бұрын
The chemistry between them is amazingly amiable. While Master Bernstein is been an remarkable mentor, Mr. Laude is such a humble pianist taking the advice and changing his habit right away. I love after Master Bernstein suggested something, then he said, “I think you’re going to love that. If you don’t, pretend you loved it….” The comment tickled me.
@hallstein1
@hallstein1 11 ай бұрын
So agree! Watching them work together is pure joy.
@stephaniek4298
@stephaniek4298 Жыл бұрын
My favorite Tonebase Piano videos involve Seymour.
@jamesfpianist1168
@jamesfpianist1168 Жыл бұрын
"I guess consistency matters." It's amazing how intricate this piece is when using detached vs connected lines. It was interesting how when asked to play something differently how it takes a few times to do that. Muscle memory is our friend and our enemy at times.
@catholicmetalhead398
@catholicmetalhead398 10 ай бұрын
Exactly! Kinesthetic motions are hard coded in Our Brains, no matter what skill level; always trips us up.
@miguelescobarmendoza3300
@miguelescobarmendoza3300 3 ай бұрын
I love that specific part legato. It's a beautiful sang melody
@saltburner2
@saltburner2 Жыл бұрын
What a wonderful teacher Seymour is that even Ben can learn from him.
@hylozoicVerse
@hylozoicVerse Жыл бұрын
🤣 I spit out my coffee :)
@brentdobson5264
@brentdobson5264 Жыл бұрын
Sense . And doesn't the harpsichord beg bigger rubato all over the place to explore structure ? ❤
@franciscoaguirre6898
@franciscoaguirre6898 7 ай бұрын
The secret of Bach lies in the phrasing leading to purity of sound that's beyond pure articulation. Seymour just synthesises the essence of Bel Canto. Amazing to watch! A masterclass in humanity!
@Ciaccona255
@Ciaccona255 7 ай бұрын
Amen
@billgauthier9765
@billgauthier9765 Жыл бұрын
Seymour's observations can apply to any art form . I'm a visual artist and get so much inspiration from his critiques
@virtualpilgrim8645
@virtualpilgrim8645 Жыл бұрын
With Seymour you can see more...
@michellemonet4358
@michellemonet4358 Жыл бұрын
Me too.
@l.w.paradis2108
@l.w.paradis2108 7 ай бұрын
Yes, love him. All the arts are one.
@vivatmusica
@vivatmusica Жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Seymour is an outstanding teacher and it is a such huge privilege to still be able to learn from his insights at 95. Please Tonebase keep making as many lessons as possible with Seymour while you still can!
@DonyaLane
@DonyaLane Жыл бұрын
God bless my piano teacher and mentor, Marion DeJesu of Baldwin, NY. She was the one who gave me this same exact instruction that Seymour gives here. When Seymour pointed out the Baroque articulations of the eighth notes ("the long valued notes," as Mrs. DeJesu would say), I actually got teary eyed, because it instantly reconnected me to when I studied with my teacher who gave me so much. I am now the same age that Mrs. DeJesu was when she taught me, and now I share this same musical knowledge with my private students, and in doing so, I keep her spirit alive! Also, Ben really played this so FLAWLESSLY. I absolutely LOVED his choices! It was authentic Baroque style, but even BETTER. And of course, Seymour Bernstein is such a treasure and a gift to us all! I love his direct honesty and approach. Thank you!
@christinek4375
@christinek4375 Жыл бұрын
This video brightens my Saturday morning. I also should play this wonderful piece later today. The existence of Mr. Seymour in the same planet is already a blessing! May God bless him with good health and long life.
@saltburner2
@saltburner2 Жыл бұрын
He already has!
@Garspawnish
@Garspawnish Жыл бұрын
Seymour Bernstein is a National Treasure. Thankfully, some of his observations and insights are preserved here for future generations. I love his passion and love for music-and the integrity he tries to apply to these historic compositions. What a great teacher.
@Roberto_Rufino
@Roberto_Rufino Жыл бұрын
I' d like so much that Seymour Bernstein could make one video per day... Not only for his extreme intelligence, competence, but also for his charismatic presence and his spicy humor. The entire planet watches him. He inspires us to put knowledge subservient to beauty and not the other way around. All tonbase pianists bring wonderful information, however, Seymour is the the greatest and most beloved artist. ps. The golden ratio was actually a very clever find.
@fredericlinden
@fredericlinden Жыл бұрын
Prof. Seymour has a sharper mind than most of us half his age...
@catholicmetalhead398
@catholicmetalhead398 10 ай бұрын
Ikr, insane attention to detail, accurate fact recounts, as well as the propensity towards understanding Vague Conceps; Rare amongst Musicians in particular as a Personality and Teacher. :)
@HawthorneHillNaturePreserve
@HawthorneHillNaturePreserve Жыл бұрын
my parents used to pay real good money for me to have lessons like this. To be able to sit through this instruction with such a master is priceless.
@towardstheflame
@towardstheflame Жыл бұрын
Love their friendly banter! They have such great chemistry.
@lawtechguy
@lawtechguy 9 ай бұрын
I absolutely love the rapport Ben and Seymour have together! I have learned so much by watching these two, and they always make me laugh. Please clad this whimsical old man in bubble wrap; he must be protected at all costs!
@speedyx3493
@speedyx3493 Жыл бұрын
I love this lessons. Ben Laude, who is already a far better pianist than I am, learns from someone even better with decades of knowladge that dedicated his life to teaching piano and music. It helps me see how much I am still lacking and how much I could improve
@alixmartin1978
@alixmartin1978 Жыл бұрын
Tonebase, these videos are my favorites. Love the complicity between mr. Laude and mr. Bernstein. My favorite moments are always when seymour recognizes the genius of other pianists, especially Ben here that is wonderful. Love on both of you! You guys rock!
@RolandHuettmann
@RolandHuettmann Жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful lesson. How many students just play it mindlessly? I did too as a young student. One should train the ear much more carefully. This lesson should be essential for every piano teacher. Let each student watch it.
@carolineseguin-ro5vt
@carolineseguin-ro5vt Жыл бұрын
What an amazingly sharp mind, and at 96 years old! So wonderful
@serwoolsley
@serwoolsley Жыл бұрын
Seymour Bernstein, a real treasure to humanity
@paulrogers7423
@paulrogers7423 Жыл бұрын
How beautiful to see a piano music professor accept a lesson from a 95 year old Maestro
@wendychu8539
@wendychu8539 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great episode. I agree with Mr. Bernstein’s suggestions about dynamics and articulation. However, harpsichord is not inferior than piano. They are two different instruments by mechanism. One can’t compare apples and oranges. I played both harpsichord and piano professionally. Every thing Bach wrote made sense on harpsichord. It is not until I started playing the harpsichord that I understood Bach more. All the sequences, polyphony, and articulations are there. Pianists take advantage of the instrument’s ability to make dynamics and legato, but we forget that timing is the most important thing. Because you can’t make dynamics on the harpsichord, you have to find other ways to make a piece musical. You have to do more articulations to make the harpsichord “speak”. And that is when you start to realize that Bach is a genius! I hope there are more people playing the harpsichord. It will even make your piano playing better because you become more creative.
@ThiloAbend
@ThiloAbend Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@nickcarroll8565
@nickcarroll8565 9 ай бұрын
Harpsichord has its own color entirely. It has its place for sure.
@craigshea2930
@craigshea2930 3 ай бұрын
I agree that the harpsichord is not "inferior" to the piano, per se; but I do also agree with Seymour that had the piano been in existence when Bach was writing (or collecting) many of his pieces, he probably would have preferred the piano over the harpsichord. That's not to say I don't enjoy the sound of the harpsichord or the way in which music had been written for it. It's just that you can do so much more with a piano to color the music than you can with a harpsichord, IMO. But I am glad there are still people out there who play the harpsichord to keep the instrument alive. There are many beautiful sounding pieces that are played on a harpsichord that just wouldn't sound the same on a piano. Thank you for your perspective on the harpsichord vs. piano.
@ccbcco
@ccbcco Жыл бұрын
Mr. Bernstein is a bit incorrect about one thing - Bach did know and did try an early version of pianoforte and did not care very much for it. I am sure the early pianoforte action was far heavier (and thus more clumsy to a new user) than any keyboard Bach had used up to that time. So it's easy to understand why Bach would not like early piano. Bach also had clavichord, lautenwerk, organ, orchestras, chamber ensembles, and choirs all of which no doubt naturally employed dynamics and vibrato to a lesser or greater degree. As we all know, "cantabile" is an Italian word that means "singing" or "melodic," which indicates a kind of supple, seductive, vocal, birdlike, connected quality to the phrasing. Yes even birds, whose brains weigh less than a penny, have a far wider range of piano and forte in their music than the harpsichord. Harpsichord, despite it's very lovely shimmering metallic sustain, was just about the only instrument Bach had with practically no dynamics. I see in this no implied mandate to let the harpsichord - the flattest instrument - dominate centuries of performance practice of dozens of other instruments that were more supple to the Baroque restrained-cantabile style that Bach nearly always demanded in the forward to most of his collections. Apparently, Bach's favorite expressive keyboard instruments were (especially) the moderate 3 course Lautenwerk, the quieter and most expressive clavichord (perfect for not waking up multiple children while composing at home), and of course the very loud organ. Bach almost certainly spent more time on these three more cantabile keyboards put together than on the harpsichord. Some recent research is indicating that Lautenwerk or (less likely) clavichord may have been Bach's favorite keyboard instrument.
@diggitus
@diggitus 7 ай бұрын
Damn, you know your stuff.
@munda_music
@munda_music Жыл бұрын
What a masterclass in nuance. Shows you knowing the notes and the basic rhythm is just the start
@PianoTeachingPros
@PianoTeachingPros Жыл бұрын
Have been playing this piece for three years, still discovering new things. Thank you!
@Omfgwhtavid
@Omfgwhtavid Жыл бұрын
I never would have paid attention to these details, it sounded so much better after Seymour’s advice!
@zacharybond23
@zacharybond23 Жыл бұрын
Bach was an instrument designer and an enthusiast of modern instrument design and played pianos when they were shown to him, but he said the action was too heavy and slow, and that the bass was not strong, so he preferred the harpsichord, which requires great skill and dexterity to play well but also has a much lighter and gentle action, allowing for strings of notes to be played quickly and requiring great precision to play with dynamics of any kind. Mr. Bernstein is a wonderful pianist and teacher, but the harpsichord also has merit in Bach interpretation and enjoyment.
@hape3862
@hape3862 Жыл бұрын
Actually, Bach did know the pianoforte: […] Silbermann had the necessary know-how as well as the financial means to develop his own model, based on Cristofori's mechanics, which he was able to present in 1726. He subsequently built another fortepiano. "One of them had been seen and played by the blessed Kapelmeister Herr Johann Sebastian Bach. He had praised, even admired the sound of it: But he criticized it for being too weak in the treble and too difficult to play. Mr. Silbermann, who could not stand any reproach to his elaborations, had taken this very badly. He was angry with Mr. Bach for a long time because of this." Nevertheless, Silbermann worked for almost ten years on improving his instruments and finally earned Bach's recognition. After King Frederick II of Prussia came to power, the Freiberg instrument maker was able to deliver 15 instruments to the court in Potsdam. In 1747, Johann Sebastian Bach improvised his three-part ricercare in front of the king on one of these fortepianos. This instrument, which is now kept in the New Palace in Potsdam, is reproduced by the Neupert company. (translated from the German Wikipedia)
@danielliang9266
@danielliang9266 Жыл бұрын
That's a fun piece of history, thanks for sharing
@danielwaitzman2118
@danielwaitzman2118 Жыл бұрын
The old fortepianos were of course much closer to the harpsichord than the modern Steinway, in terms of transparency and beauty of tone. This is, of course, a matter of taste.
@hape3862
@hape3862 Жыл бұрын
@@danielwaitzman2118 I for one get triggered when someone who _personally prefers_ the piano over the harpsichord (taste!) claims that the piano is somehow _better_ than the harpsichord, and that Bach and his contemporaries would never have touched a harpsichord again _if_ they'd only had a Steinway at their disposal already! - as Seymour does here. My _personal_ opinion is that anyone who has heard Jean Rondeau's (or any other good harpsichordist's) version of, say, the Goldberg Variations or the Well-Tempered Clavier _must_ be weaned off the piano for the rest of his life! But would I ever say that out loud in a KZbin commentary? Never! Ever! 🤪 Here I have a bonus video for you of the Invention No. 1 on the harpsichord: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4fOf5ZpgbiahdE
@MrWoodard91
@MrWoodard91 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, all due respect to him for his age and whatnot, Bernstein is wildly unprofessional and ignorant in saying that...
@arcturus4067
@arcturus4067 Жыл бұрын
@@hape3862 I doubt Bach would prefer the modern pianoforte to the harpsichord, I agree. That said, Bach's compositions transcend musical instruments. I personally prefer the pianoforte in terms of tone quality and expressiveness. The greatness of Bach's music is that it can be interpreted in really wonderful ways whether it's a harpsichord or a pianoforte. Purists and heterodox may strongly disagree with many things but agree on the profundity of his compositions. Cheers!
@valethewolf49
@valethewolf49 Жыл бұрын
In the last 2 years I've fallen in love with Piano. This is really cool to see ❤🎶🎵
@mustuploadtoo7543
@mustuploadtoo7543 Жыл бұрын
I could watch Seymour Bernstein on tonebase piano for hours. I only watch when he is in a video as i know it will be worth it 😀
@epicemuchilz
@epicemuchilz Жыл бұрын
The man is an absolute treasure, full of wit , eloquence and humour. ( Oh, and Seymour is great too)
@thorenjohn
@thorenjohn Жыл бұрын
It's wonderful to see these phrases being teased apart and reassembled with improvements. As a non-musician, but avid listener, such presentations bring the music into focus, and help me appreciate a pianist's artistry. Bravo to you both, and thank you.
@gky7170
@gky7170 2 ай бұрын
Seymour is at the point in his life where he really doesn't care if others agree or disagree with him. Bach was a true creator who would have composed for whatever instrument he could get his hands on. If I could go back into the past, I would have love to have introduced Bach to the modern piano and watched him plan how he would compose for this formidable instrument!
@gasparocelloman9852
@gasparocelloman9852 Жыл бұрын
Great Uncle Seymour is a Treasure, undoubtedly.
@fernandamontes2125
@fernandamontes2125 5 ай бұрын
Que honra ter um professor como Sr. Seymour Bernstein, at 97 yars old.Precioso !!!
@johnnyp6202
@johnnyp6202 Жыл бұрын
One of the neatest videos I have seen by you. Sometimes it seems that in Masters classes the teacher just teaches play it like I play it, and indeed Seymour outright told you how to play some parts but it seemed it was more at a foundational level and each of his suggestions were objectively better not stylisitically better. Really fascinating watch.
@SpontaneityJD
@SpontaneityJD Жыл бұрын
Great point. It’s incredible how his suggestions were “objectively better.” They just seemed to convey the essence of the piece much more naturally
@vannshuttleworth4738
@vannshuttleworth4738 Жыл бұрын
As a pianist with plodding fingers, way beyond whatever I can do. As a video, time well spent. Thanks.
@kategilpin5982
@kategilpin5982 Жыл бұрын
Seymour, live forever! I am neither a teacher nor a professional pianist, but I have been slack-jawed to find that every even slightly controversial musical opinion I have is one you have too. In this case, the superiority of the piano over the harpsichord, the cantabile/legato identity, etc. You also, in your film, relieved me forever of worrying that I was pedaling too much. Thank you, thank you!
@philsarkol6443
@philsarkol6443 Жыл бұрын
This must be priceless information for Ben or any other student pianist watching this...in how to aproach the music of Bach!!
@Rickkelley365
@Rickkelley365 Жыл бұрын
This “lesson” reminds me so much of my early training on trumpet, and how every year, every piece, you learned something new about the instrument, the pieces, the artists, yourself. At some point you begin to want to impose yourself upon the artists work, which is fine, once you’ve first learned what the artist intended and why. I’ve long since left off playing trumpet after many fun and frustrating years, but this video brought the teacher/student relationship back to me with my favorite music instructor, Louis Oliverio AT Lincoln High School in Shinnston, WV from 1992-1995. He wasn’t as tender as Seymour 😂 But he was passionate and knowledgeable. And nearly thirty years since I still think often - quite often - of all I learned through him not only about music, but about myself, and life.
@RodrigoRaez
@RodrigoRaez 6 ай бұрын
These masterclasses are pure gold.
@wuyipiano
@wuyipiano Жыл бұрын
The idea of connecting the last note to the first note in each bar is brilliant.😳
@Naturesong56
@Naturesong56 Жыл бұрын
Watching Seymour teach is so inspiring. It’s enough to make anyone want to become a musician!
@Bogdan.Pantir
@Bogdan.Pantir Жыл бұрын
Mr Seymour feel the music in such a wonderful way
@gibkeinhand2207
@gibkeinhand2207 13 күн бұрын
Thank you Seymour, after playing this piece since Iam 10y, you opened my heart to find with 60y a new level of joy playing this wonderful treasure. Kind regards from the homeland of J.S.B.
@geraldfriesen5600
@geraldfriesen5600 Жыл бұрын
The videos with Seymour are among my favourites on Tonebase. Definitely the most entertaining!
@paulschuurmans8034
@paulschuurmans8034 Жыл бұрын
I am so grateful to have the opportunity to watch this great music making, their discussion and the thought behind it.
@peterbonnema8913
@peterbonnema8913 Жыл бұрын
I learned just by seeing the way you guys are discussing the piece. I never think about music in that way
@mitchnew3037
@mitchnew3037 Жыл бұрын
I agree ☝️
@benjamonpookoo2741
@benjamonpookoo2741 Жыл бұрын
Witnessing/Being so intellectually intimate over the performance of Bach with someone who ‘gets it’ is one of the most fulfilling experiences I think I’ve ever experienced in my life… that and discovering a well-curated ambient jungle playlist. This video is a treasure. Peace ✌🏼
@hugoclarke3284
@hugoclarke3284 Жыл бұрын
He has musical sense, but no real knowledge of Bach or the history.
@benjamonpookoo2741
@benjamonpookoo2741 Жыл бұрын
@@hugoclarke3284 If it isn't the famous 'historical rigor and performative gate-keeping is more important than musical intuition' conversation starter, how've you been? It's good to see you bro ✌️
@stephield2319
@stephield2319 Жыл бұрын
The two of you together is really a joy to watch. Giving great advice, and having from what it looks like a great friendship. Thank you :)
@Edmundo-Gonzalez
@Edmundo-Gonzalez Жыл бұрын
It’s always a delight to watch Seymour. Thank you for uploading all these amazing videos!
@mathieudube1183
@mathieudube1183 Жыл бұрын
I'm learning Inventio 4 and my teacher has me do this as well: detach the 8th notes and legato the 16th. I like the way it sounds.
@mathieudube1183
@mathieudube1183 Жыл бұрын
Also it's amazing to see this much opinionated passion.
@elainegelb9784
@elainegelb9784 7 ай бұрын
They are both so charming with great chemistry and provide wonderful insights. I love peaking behind the curtain and seeing the wizard (Seymour) in action
@john-paulderosa7217
@john-paulderosa7217 11 ай бұрын
I could not wait until the end to comment: what a simply fantastic video. Such charm, such good guidance and understanding, such warmth.
@DIYerGuy
@DIYerGuy Жыл бұрын
Wow! Seymour is a marvelous treasure of teaching and communicating musical ideas into concrete actions. That we have KZbin to capture his teaching is also marvelous.
@AAKlavier
@AAKlavier 2 ай бұрын
I love Ben's playing! It reminds me of Maria Tipo, so clean, elegant, precise...thank you for posting
@davidnefesh
@davidnefesh 7 ай бұрын
This is so beautiful to observe, the loving care of a wise teacher with receptive student. It's so personal. Blessings to Seymour and Ben, and warm wishes from Michigan.
@paulchappelhymns
@paulchappelhymns 3 ай бұрын
The No1. Invention is one of my favourite and under-loved pieces. I always had my students play this glorious piece. How I long to play it again. Thank you both so much.
@ezraschwartz5201
@ezraschwartz5201 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video, thank you both!!! The ‘Golden Moment’ insight is fantastic!
@doctaflo
@doctaflo Жыл бұрын
i got a kick out of it, too!
@craigshea2930
@craigshea2930 3 ай бұрын
I have been watching some of the videos on this channel with Seymour, and he is the best piano teacher I have ever seen to date. I don't say this to put him on a pedestal, but I really appreciate his ability and skill, and most importantly, his wisdom in how he approaches playing. Thank you Seymour for all of the videos you post on tonebase, and for being an amazing teacher!
@sinadavarifarid1212
@sinadavarifarid1212 Жыл бұрын
I watch Mr. Bernstein explaining a piece, and feel like I have to drop everything and sit behind the piano. Also, Ben and Tonebase you guys make fantastic videos. Some of them can be referenced in schools TBH.
@Renshen1957
@Renshen1957 Жыл бұрын
"If Bach had a piano...", J S Bach did play Gottfried Silbermann's Fortepiano. Johann Friedrich Agricola (J S Bach's student) quote published in 1768, "Herr Gottfried Silbermann had first made two of these instruments, one of which had been seen and tested by the late Capellmeister Giovanni Sebastiano Bach. He was favourably impressed by the sound, but at the same time complained that it was too weak in the treble and too heavy to play..." This occurred in the 1730's," J S Bach criticized the heavy action (compared to the harpsichord and clavichord) and being an organists who played Tracker action organs (which require the strength and stamina of a blacksmith). "...These criticisms were taken very badly by Silbermann, who did not accept that there were flaws in the instruments he built... He therefore decided that for the time being it would be better not to sell this instrument, and this to his credit; in the meantime he did not stop thinking about how to remedy the defects that Bach had detected. He worked on it for many years. And that this was the cause of this hesitation I do not doubt, for it was confided in me by Mr Silbermann himself. Finally Silbermann, having made these improvements in the mechanics (action) in particular, sold an instrument to the princely court in Rudolstadt (…). Shortly afterwards, the King of Prussia ordered one of these instruments, and finding it to his liking, ordered several more. Seeing and hearing these instruments, those who, like me, had been able to see one of the first, could see how diligently Mr Silbermann had worked on the improvements. Herr Silbermann also had the commendable pride of showing one of the newly made instruments to the late Cappelmeister Bach and letting him examine it, receiving his full approval’. One can conclude from Agricola's quote that Silbermann did this previous to J S Bach's trip to Dresden which resulted in the Musical Offering. Nowhere in the Musical Offering is the fortepiano mentioned. The trip to Frederick the Great is well known. A few Silbermann Fortepianos purchased by the King survive and their key-dip (how the key travels far before the note sounds) and key-fall weight are nowhere near as much or as heavy as a Steinway. The only document that concerns Silbermann fortepianos directly with J S Bach dates from 1749 in which J S Bach acted as an agent in the sale for his friend who was away building an organ (and Silbermann's former student and plaintiff in a lawsuit Zachariah Hildebrandt, also a friend of JSB). Bach's first biographer, Johann Nikolaus Forkel, "on the strength of interviews with the composer's sons, reported that the clavichord was Bach's favorite keyboard instrument." J S Bach never once used the term Clavichord in the manuscripts of his works. J N Forkel waxed poetically about the clavichord being J S Bach's favorite instrument (and somewhat chauvinistically (for a German State), however), in his 1801 biography (the first for a Musician), and was along with Sarah Levy (Great Aunt to Felix Mendelssohn-Bartholdy) was a student of W F Bach. However, from what I can find, Forkel might have committed (he's one of the earliest musicologists as well as performance practice) a bit of confirmation bias. J S Bach preferred students who first began their lessons on the clavichord and then transitioned to the harpsichord to beginners that had began on the harpsichord. J S Bach had given this pedal clavichord (for practicing organ works) to his youngest (and favorite) son (at the time a minor) before his death as a present which engender some ill feelings with his two oldest half brothers. In the tax documents (J S Bach died without a Will, ergo his estate was taxed rather than going tax free to A M Bach) there wasn't another clavichord mentioned in his possession. What was in J S Bach's instruments list? Six harpsichords (4 normal size, one smaller, and one small spinet, there are documents that state J S Bach did rent harpsichord(s)) and two Lute Harpsichords (said to be his favorite instrument) of which he wrote some keyboard works for, both built by Z. Hildebrandt (Agricola), although Johann Christoph Fleischer of Hamburg, and Johann Nicolaus Bach also produced. Some claim this was J S Bach's favorite instrument. As to the keyboard works of J S Bach, besides the manuscripts (for the Lute Harpsichord), only organ and harpsichord receive mention in his publications; the English and French Suites have in their titles for the Harpsichord. Clavichordio or Clavichordium, mentioned in the Walter's Musical Lexicon (which J S Bach was an agent for sales in Leipzig) in 1731. Johann Christoph Fleischer produced two unfretted Clavichords, the earliest surviving one is in Stade FF-d3, adapted from fretted clavichord (C-c3) in 1723. The C-c3 range is found in the WTC Pt 1 (and exceeded in Pt 2). W F Bach's Keyboard Booklet 19 pieces before the first Praeambulum (Invention as it would become known later) contains three minuets in G major. Of the third one descends to GG in bass (13th piece) J S Bach in the English Suites also descends to AA. The English suites are the oldest set. It might be argued that W F Bach was already playing the harpsichord. J S Bach was also quoted as preferring short natural keys (for organs), a narrower keyboard to the octave, and not playing with outstretched (flat) fingers. On the other hand (pardon the pun), he may have liked the tone of the modern piano, it's bloom and longer sustain, and still disliked the cross strung muddying the bass and homogenous tonal properties except at the extremes of compass, as well as the long key fall before the sound at the bottom instead of 2 mm of the harpsichord, or the shorter distance of the clavichord. The pedal, Silbermann's damper stop was pulled on and off by hand. For over 50 plus years, I've heard, "J S Bach would have preferred the modern piano, the damper pedal, etc., ad nauseum without much to go on factually. He did approve of Silberman's fortepiano (if eventually), but these had more in common with the harpsichord (most likely built in a Silbermann harpsichord case with Cristofori's action) than a modern piano. He didn't buy one (Cristofori's and Silberman's pianos were expensive and not suited for playing in ensembles), he had opportunity, and frankly two Lute Harpsichords built for a man who owned six harpsichords besides doesn't give much for a total of 8 plucked instruments seems indicate he didn't have the inclination to sell them and his Stainer Violin to buy a Fortepiano. Of course the above is my subjective opinion, and your opinion is equally valid.
@wendychu8539
@wendychu8539 Жыл бұрын
Well said 🎉
@davidlulow6541
@davidlulow6541 Жыл бұрын
Wow…..terrific insight into what certainly is a master class. I’ve sat in on jazz master classes and this is right up there. Amazing.
@retepd1e
@retepd1e 9 ай бұрын
Seymour is absolute Yoda!❤
@zachariasorfanos7583
@zachariasorfanos7583 11 ай бұрын
This has helped me immensely learning that piece.
@Crossriverpianist
@Crossriverpianist Жыл бұрын
Seymour is a genius. I learn so much. Amazing..
@CaseyFulton-y8w
@CaseyFulton-y8w Жыл бұрын
The charm of legato contrasting with detache is such a great point.
@catholicmetalhead398
@catholicmetalhead398 10 ай бұрын
Piano Master teaches Piano Expert... And it's Glorious! :D
@apoorva_i
@apoorva_i Жыл бұрын
HE IS BACK, MORE SEYMOUR VIDEOS
@fortissimoX
@fortissimoX 10 ай бұрын
Amazing video, thanks for sharing it!
@JakeSmith-mo8iu
@JakeSmith-mo8iu Жыл бұрын
You guys are such an amazing duo truly
@kopperbunny
@kopperbunny Жыл бұрын
Seymour is such a gift to all of us.
@ethermod307
@ethermod307 Жыл бұрын
Delightful and insightful! About the golden ratio: one doesn't have to know where it is in the piece. It's everywhere in nature to be found but we can blissfully enjoy a walk in nature without noticing. But for those who do the research they will find deeper levels of beauty and bliss. That's what it is about.
@oneearedmusician
@oneearedmusician Жыл бұрын
I wonder does the golden measure apply to all pieces? I loved the detached parts of the invention. I feel like I've played it wrong my whole piano life. I love this!
@GingerDrums
@GingerDrums Жыл бұрын
I truly wonder how much Bach himself would agree with this interpretation. I think the spirit of the detatching does offer a wonderful contrast and forward motion.
@Ygnez
@Ygnez 5 ай бұрын
I never liked this piece, but seeing how different interpretations are learned makes me fall in love with the nuances of the piece. Love this video! Very inspiring.
@Lait_au_Miel
@Lait_au_Miel Жыл бұрын
I love this duo
@tenyako
@tenyako Жыл бұрын
Seymour and Ben content made stick so long with your youtube content that I needed to buy a lifepass for tonebase - just to appreciate what you do. Thank you for sharing so much also outside a paywall and thank you for your content, it opend totally different layers to my piano playing for me.
@sychg3448
@sychg3448 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, Mr Bernstein. I have been playing this piece for years and your idea is so inspiring and bringing freshness. I'm going to try it out. You're a treasures ! Inspiring, as always !
@chrrev1
@chrrev1 Жыл бұрын
There are endless possibilities in terms of phrasing, each player has to find their own
@zaineridling
@zaineridling Жыл бұрын
Can't get enough of Seymour. This old cat has a million dollar smile! 💯
@michellemonet4358
@michellemonet4358 Жыл бұрын
And million dollar passion
@dbadagna
@dbadagna Жыл бұрын
I was taught that there is a standard articulation technique used commonly in Baroque harpsichord playing called "overholding," implying that not everything was played in a detached manner on the harpsichord during that period.
@nickcarroll8565
@nickcarroll8565 9 ай бұрын
Did it really change the sound much? I thought harpsichord plucked the string, I’m not sure how holding down longer would help sound. But I have no personal experience with the instrument.
@dbadagna
@dbadagna 9 ай бұрын
@@nickcarroll8565 Overholding can give the illusion of legato, because releasing a key at the same time the next key (which ) is pressed creates a staccato-like sound, since a damper quiets the string when a key is released.
@nickcarroll8565
@nickcarroll8565 9 ай бұрын
@@dbadagna ah thanks. How cool.
@watchjoesvids
@watchjoesvids 8 ай бұрын
Seymour is incredible. He's 95! I love this man, he's mesmerizing. ]
@stevenqirkle
@stevenqirkle Жыл бұрын
Beautiful piece, beautiful playing, and beautiful insights.
@gretareinarsson7461
@gretareinarsson7461 Жыл бұрын
I play one Invention/sinfonia daily. Wonderful music in every way and some are tricky. They are also so wonderful to experiment with.
@jensk808
@jensk808 Жыл бұрын
I don't know what it is about seymour bernstein, but I adore his way of playing the piano.
@piano_piano_lontano
@piano_piano_lontano Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Ben and Seymour, pure gold!
@j.thomas1420
@j.thomas1420 Жыл бұрын
Bernstein is so inspiring...!❤
@kathng8354
@kathng8354 9 ай бұрын
Amazing how to create musicalities in Bach
@Doty6String
@Doty6String Жыл бұрын
5:50 is so clean, man, just when you kinda forget about Bach you just hear something new
@Currabell
@Currabell Жыл бұрын
Every suggestion Mr Seymour made was exquisite building to a perfect whole.
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