Tony Blair and Gordon Brown caused ‘CHAOS’ | Dr David Starkey on House of Lords ‘mess’

[@jonathanlake6053]

Has Tony got any news of where the WMD in Iraq are?

[@bengunn3698]

@jonathan He still as his minions searching , charges by the hour for them i have heard.

[@stevew6141]

Nimrod was the wmd that’s why actual inspections from various country’s came up with nothing! Look over here while we dig over there

[@colinwishbone4437]

Probably not in the vault he keeps his repellant fortune

[@johnmoreton7348]

They were all sitting together during the queens funeral ,Major, Blair, Brown, Cameron May, johnson, not one of them did any good for this country.

[@marylynch951]

Yes I noticed this too Meaning they're all the same I wouldn't trust any of them After what's gone on over the last 2 years I have lost all respect for them

[@MS-19]

Major turned recession into boom. Blair delivered one term of stability and got the NHS into probably the best shape it has ever been in, though that's just from my experiences of it at the time. Brown kept the wheels on during the financial crisis - which was not his doing, after all. Cameron got same sex marriages onto the statute book, thus bringing us into the 21st century. May strengthened ties with Kenya. Johnson kept us from going down the tyrannical path adopted by other countries in the name of controlling COVID. Of course all has many flaws and faults and deserved their respective ejections from office. Let whoever is without sin be the first to cast a stone.

[@trucker4567]

@@MS-19 I remember getting us into a war that should never have happened (seeing as he is a liar) and brown sold all of our gold off for rock bottom prices, I can see how you thought the both of them did the country nothing but good.

[@Horriblebastad]

Sold us out

[@MS-19]

@@trucker4567 Clearly you didn't read my comment properly, so I shall quote a phrase that will refute, utterly, your assertion that I think they only did good: "Of course all has many flaws and faults and deserved their respective ejections from office."

[@davidbrown5411]

Blair and Brown both belong in jail.

[@geewoods4452]

Just like 100 tory ministers all guilty of treason.

[@davidbrown5411]

@@geewoods4452 Don't forget the labour scum too.

[@davidripley2916]

And what of your Dear Alex? And Cameron? They belong in the Tower, on Treason charges. 👀

[@davidbrown5411]

@@davidripley2916 Agreed, as does Johnson, May and Sunak.

[@trucker4567]

@@davidripley2916 Another LEFTY that can't take the truth.

[@johntooth1886]

The Madman Blair. Spot on Mr Starky.

[@StokieStokie]

Its a known fact the U.K. is still paying for the Blair, brown show

[@stephfoxwell4620]

Are you joining? Labour left power in April 2010 when debt was £930 billion. It is now £2,600 billion. Plus £800 billion of QE.

[@ralphmillais5237]

@@stephfoxwell4620 I shudder to think where we would be now had that gibbering imbecile Corbyn won, even as bad as Boris and the Tories undoubtedly were/are. Labour are Commie filth.

[@bobsocks7575]

@@stephfoxwell4620 Labour left a deficit of £142bn per annum, the debt level was only going one way with that level of shortfall, also the debt had accelerated due to COVID costs recently.

[@stephfoxwell4620]

Bob. Don't be so facetious. Labour dealt with the worst global recession since 1929. The Tories have had 13 years to correct the deficit. Osborne promised to balance the books by 2015, then changed it to 2017. Hammond moved it to 2022. Sunak put it back to 2028. Tories are financial incompetents. As proven every time they take power

[@bobsocks7575]

@@stephfoxwell4620 They did correct the deficit until COVID came along, just plain straightforward facts. I have no real dog in the fight but you cant deny the truth of the situation when Labour were voted out.

[@gerardphillips7507]

Blair and Brown father's of the death of England....

[@johntooth1886]

I agree!!

[@julieobrien8252]

And not even English

[@ThePixey1000]

EX MPs should never be allowed to enter the house of Lords. It should be held for the normal people from across the country to give balance to audit and keep track of the House of Commons. MPs are not to be trusted making money for them selves as now become a priority above their position to run the country on behave of the people that voted for them. The conflict of interest seems to have gone by the way side thanks to Blair and Browns days. There was a conflict of interest when Mrs Blair purchased some property in London. We need to put Conflict of Interest back on the table and sack the people that abuse it but with MPs in the Lords it as become the same . They are all like mafia members working within the radar of the Law and dont seem to care.they have no morals or decency.

[@internetenjoyer1044]

this is a reasonable kind of reform that could be discussed. but the current proposals, and whats already happened, are far to radical and change the inherent nature of our system. trying to turn us into unrooted, unbritish global citizens rather than a nation wuith our own culture and political insitutionals (which incidentally, are some of the most successful in global history)

[@rockerjim8045]

Lady Mone was a commoner

[@rogerburrows2429]

On the subject of Cherie B,l seem to recall her buying 2 properties in Bristol from the conman Foster? ex boyfriend of Sam Fox. When questioned by a TV reporter about his background as a conman,she simply replied that she was not aware end of. Two or three years ago,Bliars property portfolio stood at £27M.

[@janicebirch7522]

@@rogerburrows2429Blair's now worth, ar least, thirty eight million. Champagne socialist lawyers, who changed the laws for their own profit. New Labour, denied legally resident UK citizens their human right to a vote in an EU Ref on much revised EU Treaties! Those Treaties changed the original agreements to terms and conditions of the UK membership in the EU. Scots ,Brown and Blair pushed devolution in Scotland and Wales for votes.. Then abandoned Scotland, to push the UK into the EU to allow the EUC, far too much influence ,by payment of UK people's rebate to cause division within the UK and the dire consequences of the break up of a once United Kingdom!

[@ThePixey1000]

@@janicebirch7522 I remember it well

[@Bernard-ux2eb]

Blair, one of the original Young Global Leaders of the World Economic Forum, class of 1993, gets installed when then leader of the Labour Party, John Smith, suddenly and unexpectedly died from a heart attack. Blair goes on to win the 1997 general election, succeeding John Major. Then the chaos began. Gordon Brown is on video record (I have it) talking about Klaus Schwab and the Fourth Industrial Revolution in a matter of fact manner, this being back when he was in government. The long game.

[@discostu2246]

Also directly linked to Muslim brotherhood via his wife

[@darrenkenton5364]

Don't leave out Ed Balls and his wife yvette Cooper (Both YGLs too)! It was their association with Harvard University and the Clinton administration that influenced Blair/Browns policies such as public/private partnerships, Stakeholder economy (Stakeholder Capitalism) that's also helped to screw up our country!

[@lillidel1935]

exactly ! this pair of evil c**ts need locking up for the sake of humanity

[@johnruby147]

Having voted Conservitive all my adult life i was very keen to vote for John Smith's Labour , when he suddenly dies from a Heart Atack . When that grinning idiot Blair was voted Labour leader there was no way i was going to vote for him . Never liked him then , never will like him . As for John Smith's Heart Attack , read Dr David Kelly's Murder . You can bet your house that Blair had something to do with both death's . And as for Gordon Brown Britain's first un-elected PM

[@discostu2246]

@@johnruby147 not forgetting Robin Cooks death.. the week before he was due to testify over Diana's death.. there comes a time when coincidence is mathematically impossible

[@sheilahindson4252]

Blair and brown have a lot to answer for and we are still paying for it.

[@SpadgerMcTeagle1]

They gave Great Britain away. We can never pay enough for its return

[@jonathanhadley2555]

New Labour/Tory Lite...................................!

[@stablefairy9437]

if ever there was an argument for a second house, it surely has to be the situation in Scotland just now where they are trying to reform the gender recognition act. before this highly controversial and potentially dangerous reform be passed, it could have gone to a "second house" for amendment.

[@michaelholt7994]

What's ridiculous about this is this,your Jimmy your benefits run today Friday say,on Monday you go back as jemima and claim again,nothinv they can do about it,your a different person, gender,so you can beat the system just like that,wonder how many will do this..this is just one example,there are many other ways to claim .

[@mickp222]

Gordon Brown and Tony Blair are Wrong on every Level

[@johnharris6691]

And stratum as well !

[@daffidkane8350]

When I studied for my llb I came to the same conclusion that Tony and Gordon were the worst thing to happen to the British constitution. Starkey is brilliant.

[@stephfoxwell4620]

Blair oversaw an extreme marxist revolution in the UK like nothing seen before.

[@Mac-dx4rd]

The British constitution has been eroded away so much for a long time hence how the us constitution came about, the only things that is still catered for is the royal family and the city of London

[@robertpennington1200]

Blair continues to- don't think he's not behind the Brexit debacle

[@paulnailor6723]

The jolly old chums club all aboard for a ride on the gravy train.

[@bengunn3698]

@paul For a second there i thought you said '' gay '' train , and yet .........

[@mpsymonds1]

What the hell is Bercow doing in the Lords. I thought he was banished.

[@DD-zd9lw]

And they still haven't been arrested.

[@imwithstupid00011]

We can all trust prince charles to fuk things up for our future. He has a chip on both shoulders!

[@carloguli5766]

The prospect of Labour back in control of government fills me with dread. The Blair years have been by and large a disaster. Labour is not the alternative, it's just more of the same. I hope the electorate sees it for what it is.

[@richardjones4536]

Over a million people contended Blair's knighthood....this has taken any value from the house of lords.....sad for the people that actually deserve a knighthood.

[@johnsmith-rs2vk]

IT'S A PITY THAT THE BLOCK WAS NOT THERE .

[@barrywalton7553]

What ever tonail Blair says I do opposite that man killed children

[@waynewanderer]

thousand of them , evil bastrd

[@clivewalker5465]

We have £ Millionaire Peers in the House of Lords , who made their ££££ in the UK , who sit in Judgement , and yet live in Tax Havens .

[@fubar.1]

Everything is broken in Britain.

[@MrCameroland]

War criminal tony 😂😂🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@SpookyFox1000]

I love listening to you David. Clever beyond ANY politicians !

[@stevew6141]

Most would say they both needed to be put on trial

[@markscript5746]

The Lords has been corrupted and is not fit for purpose

[@internetenjoyer1044]

it's been corrupted by labour reforms

[@Mac-dx4rd]

And the house of the common people is ok ?

[@johnallen7807]

Why did you cut this short? David Starkey is always good value. Who was it said "The only honest man who entered Parliament was Guy Fawkes"?

[@bengunn3698]

@johnallen Not sure about honest but definetly the only one with the right idea. Much needed today . Cromwell would be my choice.

[@johnallen7807]

@@bengunn3698 lol, ok well honest in his intentions!

[@MrWhothefoxthat]

a system totally out of touch with its people, always been the same, they look after their own interests and if it goes wrong they impose more taxes.

[@MAXlMUS66]

Prison

[@socratesrocks1513]

Last year, the HoL cost us 117 million. The HoC, on the other hand, costs over £400 million, plus another £45 million and rising every time there's an election. The HoL, being unelected, can act as a braking mechnism, not a bulwark. It can force the HoC to double check but if a bill passes three times in the HoC, it is waved through and budgets cannot be stopped at all. The HoL, before Blair and Brown wrecked it with their cronies, was remarkably efficient and effective. There needs to be a ban on any more political appointments, hereditary peers, who care about the long term rather than short term, need to be brought back and for every person with a bias to one side of the political spectrum, there should be someone equally qualified from the other side. After that, the Commons needs to keep its grubby little hands out of it.

[@joelhall5124]

We really shouldn't abolish the Lords.

[@coldbreeze6344]

House of lords a rich mans club none of them deserve the title

[@johnsmith-rs2vk]

BLAIR ! HE SHOULD REMAIN IN THE PANIC ROOM OF ONE OF HIS LONDON TOWN HOUSES !

[@mickbawn6815]

Blair should be in jail ! War crimes Tony! You will be judged!

[@steverogers6921]

Get rid of them

[@JustAlanJohn]

Stop all these gongs being given out like confetti to anyone who should never be let near the house of Lords.

[@TheTeamDavey]

How does this address the corrupt elevation of certain people to the HofL?

[@gaildonnelly515]

Get rid of them 2.

[@julieobrien8252]

And Campbell and Mendelsohn

[@saralondon3405]

I think this government has no regard or respect for the Nation.

[@wendyjones5853]

YA THINK!! YA MEAN YOU KNOW ,SO, DONT BE BASHFUL !

[@saralondon3405]

@@wendyjones5853 I'm polite 🤣🤣🤣

[@wendyjones5853]

Love your sarcastic humour there ,@ saralondonv3405 can I politely thank you for your reply ?

[@peteraharrison6270]

Because they do not have to live within or answer to it.

[@davidseals4898]

Runied it. Tony let drawbridge down so golden Gordongave it away

[@davidseals4898]

George Soros rubbing his grubby hands

[@davidseals4898]

mMerry Christmas everyone ❤️🌲🙏

[@hurstmitchell6392]

If blair and brown want to get rid of The House of Lords , l want to keep it!

[@mrmiller7627]

The commons and the lords only represent themselves not the public

[@CharlieBrown-uv6uw]

Tony Blair only joined the Labour party as he couldn't see a fast track for himself through the Tory party, as for Gordon Brown, there are no words!

[@nickthebubble4060]

The whole system needs to change.

[@garywelsh9466]

Things need to change the world over..

[@seansmith445]

@@garywelsh9466 They are but not in a way we are going to like.

[@garywelsh9466]

@@seansmith445agree totally..

[@stephenford8775]

I can't believe I'm going to say this, I for one is glad we've got the Lords, because they can keep a eye on this Govt we've got now, because I don't trust them at all.

[@welshfire7926]

I'm sick of these corrupt politician's

[@gerrypowell2748]

Everything wrong with the Establishment sits in the Lords,as for the corruption it’s thicker than Marmite😂

[@fredscratchet1355]

Something else that's broken. There's not much left now.

[@mariewalker4010]

And stop paying them mega bucks

[@GH-lo8vl]

In response to the Treaty of Nice being unlawfully granted royal assent (which covertly left out our codified constitution and was treasinously passed into law), a committee of 68 barons got together in 1999 and lawfully (re) invoked Article 61 of the Magna Carta 1215, on 23rd March 2001. Since no one in authority has publicly revoked this invocation of Article 61 of the Magna Carta 1215, then common law takes presidence, and all acts and statutes of parliment are null and void from that date, because the Queen broke her coronation oath and gave up her sovereignty and her right to authorise royal assent. Tony Blair repealed the 1795 treason act in 1998 from capital punishment to life in prison, and now we know why. Ask this question to police and courts if you're ever stopped or taken to task for not obeying "acts and statutes" - "I stand under common law, so do you have authority to make a demand on me since Article 61 of the Magna Carta 1215 was invoked on 23rd March 2001". Anyone in office who publicly denies Article 61 of the Magna Carta 1215 is committing sedition, and anyone in office who acts against you under commercial law (acts and statutes of parliment), is committing high treason.

[@bengunn3698]

@user Needs testing in court to see how true all that is . Someone should be crowdfunded to try . Find a good case that stands a chance and set up a fund , keep everyone contributing well informed.

[@GH-lo8vl]

@@bengunn3698 - It already has been, I'll try to find the video and post it.

[@maxisussex]

Firstly, the UK doesn't have a codified constitution, it is unwritten. Secondly, treason in the UK is defined as a "crime against the crown", which a monarch can hardly be accused of. And lasty, the 68 barons you referred to were not Barons, they were random people who started a petition. It had the support of three members of the house of lords and it went nowhere.

[@GH-lo8vl]

@@maxisussex - The UK does have a codified constitution, if you care to look it up. The crown represents the people so any act of treason is against the people. I never said she committed treason, I said she broke her oath. Finally, it doesn't matter how many barons were involved, they invoked article 61 which was never challenged, so therefore common law takes presidence. Do you actually know what common law is? Do you want me to tell you?

[@maxisussex]

@@GH-lo8vl The UK does not have a codified constitution, I don't need to look it up. I'm not sure you even know what it means. A codified constitution is a single document with or without amendments. British people's rights are set out via multiple, individual pieces of legislation, i.e. not codified. Secondly, the crown is not one and the same as the people. As for the number of barons, it is very simple, the number was 0. It was 68 commoners with the support of three Lords. They had no right to invoke anything, they were just random quacks. Common law is law set by precedence and custom, as in, it is NOT codified. You believe what you do because you lack the actual intelligence necessary to understand what you are talking about. It is like when you see a drunk chav being arrested and they're shouting, "you can't arrest me, I blah blah blah and that is the law. You don't know the law mate". I'm afraid Bob and yourself fall into that same category, hopefully without the drinking problems.

[@domfrancis3140]

Fascinating conversation gentlemen, thank you.

[@susannamarker2582]

The Lords should be reformed, not abolished. The Lords should be a meritocracy of Junior, Life and Hereditary peerage. Blair was right to cull a lot of hereditary peers, but not all of them. Blair was a marxist at University. He was the wrong person to reform the Lords. Kier Starmer is the continuation of Blair. Accession committees could decide who moves up the meritocracy. Sons and daughters who inherit an hereditary peerage would enter the Lords as Junior peers. They should inherit the right to try to move up the meritocracy.

[@fhugheveleigh2]

Absolutely right in respect to Blair and Brown's meddling with the Constitution and I also agree with Starkey's assessment. We must keep the Lords but it must be reformed and never elected by the populace. It has to remain a house of review and in my opinion only advisory review.

[@Klinsmann1985]

Doesn't matter who's fault it is, let's fix it! Should be elected, end of story.

[@karlmunford7000]

Tony Blair isn't _'The Antichrist'_ who is coming but *AN* antichrist _[plural]..._ 1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist _[singular]_ shall come, even now are there many antichrists _[plural];_ whereby we know that it is the last time. ...being driven by the spirit of antichrist... 1 John 4:3b This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now _[in John's day]_ *is already in the world.* ...driving men to forward the global order ready for The Antichrist to usurp once he has appeared... 2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then the lawless one _[The Antichrist]_ will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendour of his coming. Having then only three and a half years... Revelation 13:5 The beast _[The Antichrist]_ was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. _[3.5 yrs]_ ...to prepare it to oppose Christ when He returns to establish his Kingdom in place of Antichrist. Revelation 19:19 Then I saw the beast _[The Antichrist]_ and the kings of the earth _[NWO]_ and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider _[Christ]_ on the horse and his army. _[The Angels of God]_ But he will fail... Revelation 11:15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah _[ greek: Christ],_ and he will reign for ever and ever.” Revelation 22:20 He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, *I AM* coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.

[@sroth2021]

Psychopath

[@johnharris6691]

Did someone make this up? I'm lost !

[@karlmunford7000]

@@johnharris6691 Make what up? that The Antichrist is coming, even the seed of the serpent first mentioned in Genesis 3:15... Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy *seed and her seed;* it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Until he is cast into hell alive, as recorded in Revelation 19:19 Revelation 19:19 Then I saw the beast _[The Antichrist]_ and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider _[Christ]_ on the horse and his army. Its been in black and white for thousands of years for everyone to read, and many understand it but if you refuse to believe the scriptures of truth you wouldn't believe it even if someone _[Jesus]_ returned fro. the dead and told you so. Luke 16:31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”

[@cedroncaine4450]

Both houses will have to go if you are trying to build a one world Government.

[@oldfatbastad6053]

THE WHOLE DAMN SYSTEM FROM THE MONARCH DOWN NEEDS REFORM, WE NEED A NEW CROMWELL.

[@chadwalton8072]

It’s always the labour they cause are problems

[@Chris_34]

Yeah, the last 12 years of Tory misrule have nothing to do with it🙄

[@Chris_34]

@A Farmer 🤡

[@jaket9559]

Give the Duchy land back to the people we don't need the Lords we don't need to pay everyone for it it's a get rich quick scheme

[@johnharris6691]

Putin should run this place, they have thrown everything at him ,and he is still head and shoulders above the rest, and he's small !!

[@joprocter4573]

Both ruined country chuck Blair out also

[@garyanthony5292]

Something needs to be done with both these houses since they're certainly not serving the people of the U.K.. Here's a few suggestions to kick off 1. All politicians must declare their finances at the outset and each year to an independent watchdog that scrutinises their wealth on leaving office. 2. No politician serving in parliament can have two or more jobs 3. No politician can accept lobbying, make it illegal. 4. No politician gets a pay rise higher than inflation. 5. MP expenses are limited and cannot include nepotistic job allotments. 6. Any peerage or title must be earned. 7. All U.K MPs and their spouses must pay tax here if they live here. 8. No contracts for government spending of tax payers money can be awarded to any company without it being properly tendered to find the best affordable and non MP linked option. 9. In running the country's finances economic qualifications are necessary to become chancellor of the exchequer and where not possible an economic consultant who is universally suitable or acceptable to all parties should be privy to all relevant U.K finances and sought out to advise.. 10. No MP or MPs can implement any environmental, social or other strategy suggested or derived from an unelected third party to be realised or representative in the U.K without acceptance by the people of the U.K. i.e like those prescribed by and adopted from the World Economic Forum etc.and now implemented in city's like Oxford.. Unrealistic? Only to the egocentric people currently occupying seats.

[@pyewhackett1598]

Nothing good has never come from a radio and television presenter, including David Starkey.

[@memc8479]

Exactly

[@johnnotrealname8168]

Why do people think the Lords are worse than the commons?

[@geraldmaybebaby1585]

"Inclusive" (Alarm bells)

[@waynewanderer]

you can almost hear the doors opening further as we speak , we`ll be sending boats over to collect them soon

[@christophercurtis2893]

Remember folks. Things can only get better.

[@waynewanderer]

no they can`t , they can get an awful lot worse yet , and it will.......................

[@stamp-pic-man]

Were is cromwell when you want him lol

[@seansmith445]

Cromwell let the enemy back in.

[@stamp-pic-man]

@@seansmith445 if you watch Richard Harris speach as cromwell disbanding parliament you will see what I mean

[@KM-eq4mg]

And they still can’t shut their mouths!

[@songscoops4205]

Wait till Starmer gets in 😛

[@wendyjones5853]

HE WONT !

[@stephenford8775]

@@wendyjones5853 I hope your right Wendy, god help us if he does.

[@graham7176]

I never though I would ever think or say this about the political governance of my country, despite them always having a level of question, I am referring to all politicians and Lords Those responsible for the wellbeing and forward prosperity of this country and its people are never, or rarely, brought to justice for telling lies or simply being inept in their duties. They escape justice by convincingly telling only part of the truth, not the whole story, or commenting on ideals only. What they don't say, is that the essence of their story will be subject to, distant foreign laws, international laws and treaties, signed into by our governments/politicians over many past decades. Or the outcome of a needed change will be, modified, altered or binned by a minority but much louder lobbyist group, activist's and ideological political views, against the wants, wishes and needs of the majority. Government Ministers, MP's in the House of Commons, and a completely politicised House of Lords, never legally challenge or interpret any external laws with this country in mind, even though they prove to have a domestic detrimental effect to our finances, community, society and safety. Weak governance, yet self importance throughout, is our current problem, ideologs are in charge of reality in this country,

[@sonnyraines9829]

You need Checks and balances

[@El.Cid17]

Not 800 of them, you don't.

[@stephfoxwell4620]

Cheques and balances is what they expect.

[@neilhedley6080]

Neither have been in power for 12 years LOL

[@stuartasquith3686]

Just a gravy train

[@martin5504]

There are much too many in the House of Lords. Most of them don't deserve to be there.

[@heathermaich8966]

what a shame this interview was cut short

[@irreduciblerascal]

Abolish house of Lords then abolish all tories and Labour House of waste

[@joelhall5124]

And I'm so glad he said "the King", instead of "King Charles". The latter makes me cringe

[@Knappa22]

The reason Blair and Brown packed the Lords with cronies (which I don’t dispute) is because it had a massive and unfait inbuilt majority for the Tories (partly in the form of heteditary peers). It was at complete odds with the elected Commons which in 1997 and beyond had a huge Labour majority, voted for by the people. So while Starkey is correct about what Blair did, Blair was merely making a broken system more broken.

[@samg8840]

Restore the House of Lords.

[@stevenhowe6677]

Id get rid of it all, starting with Tory/Labour

[@malcolmrowe5031]

"Efficient " parliament is like a circus!!

[@stephfoxwell4620]

Maybe. But the Tories have been in power for 31 of the last 44 years so must take most of the blame.

[@gregorydoran2777]

Take away all the Lords political power. Ridiculous in this day and age.

[@sh.4409]

We need to revoke every law they made.

[@christopherforster6555]

A complete waste of our money chuck them all out .

[@DrakeBuilders]

Please let the House of Lords, New Zealand returning #Jizzy back to #Blair #Unwanted #UnNeeded

[@paulatradies1942]

Lol Blair the biggest Gangster of them all.

[@Jay-iu5bi]

The house of lords is corrupt. It needs to go.

[@karenessauthor]

Speaking as an outsider. The Lords keeps your country stable. Stability is not to be scoffed at, believe me. Consistency is also gained. Rather than wild swings from one side to the other. Whatever you do, don't get rid of it!!!

[@c.h2750]

Don't talk rubbish you don't know what you are talking about. Partly the reason this country is in a mess is mainly down to the Lords decisions. We need to get rid of them and soon.

[@rampakeshbharat1938]

Stable my ass, they are just a bunch of dossers, most come from the commons and have life peerages, no MPs get that, abolish them for an elected chamber with a time limit on how long they can serve...

[@ssuwandi3240]

Karen sounds like a desperate lobbyist aka donor aka NGOs who has milked in and taken advantaged of taxpayers money on behalf of WEF and the Deepstate. These international agent always show up randomly and fan the international freedom nonsense Agenda.. aka Thief

[@sillypuppy5940]

They're a group of unelected people holding up and opposing laws passed by the lawfully elected HOC. It's been a ludicrous anachronism for at least a century, so it's time to slim it down and make it democratic. And please no more automatic seats for the clergy.

[@wendyjones5853]

Yeah I agree THEIR financial stability ???!!!

[@davidripley2916]

And Alex was a Good Boy! FFS, man! 🤨

[@Stand663]

What the ell is a Supreme Court ???

[@briangibson2990]

What changes

[@EconomicJournalist]

USA USA USA

[@yamyam2987]

For me, HoL must be non-political and free from the chains of elections to see all bills in an objective lens. Enough making all things elected, this setup is not suitable for all and every country

[@johnwaller4033]

I've got an idea half the house of lord's and give the money saved to the nurses

[@markhughes7927]

Two Scottish monkeys strutting into Westminster pretty much - mutatis mutandis - as King James 1 (VI of Scotland) did 419 years ago - put the Island’s economics in reverse for a century.😢

[@bomberdores1]

Are you a vicar or a politician if you are a vicar then stay out of politics and concentrate on your own flock

[@sophiegunner1754]

He’s nothing. Just a pretend. Wolfs in sheep 🐑 clothing

[@michaelholt7994]

Too many partisan members,the old way,members could not be persuaded by any party to get their Bill's through,now its gone to far,the wrong way.

[@internetenjoyer1044]

and labours proposals just wnat to make it so the upper house is entirely governed by party politics

[@MD-gc4xq]

The less snouts in the trough the better