Too Cold Even for the Wood Stove to Burn to Keep the Shop Warm Dec 11 2024

[@MattRobicheau]

Hello King, all I know to keep me warm though Canadian winter is burn wood. Wood stove in the shop- put your damper in the chimney above the upper heat barrel and remove it between the two barrels. This way the damper in the chimney will hold back the heat in the heater barrel 👍🏽. Plus you need to some how remove all the ash and stuff sitting on the bottom of the upper heat barrel. A chimney cap should make a difference too, especially a wind directional one. A lot of the acadians use them here and it's the only chimney cap they swear by. Thanks for the vid King

[@kingofobsolete4789]

no matter what or how we change out the stove it will never work because the double barrel stoves do not work in the high-low pressure air systems we get here. thansk

[@MattRobicheau]

@kingofobsolete4789 well darn. Thanks

[@dave-uf8ir]

Been having low pressure problems with my wood stove in shop 2 cheers 🥂 guys 😊😊

[@kingofobsolete4789]

excellent an excuse to drink, lol thansk

[@dave-uf8ir]

Yup cheers 🥂 king 👑

[@68chevelle]

It was slick how you did the thermostat. Good old country boy engineering at its best. Don't sweat the stove ( pun intended ) you'll get it fixed.

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes we had to do something but we did not have the true cold weather to test out the new design thansk

[@andydubois8411]

It was Windsday on the Irish Riviera. Gusts of 60+ mph. 2 inches of 50F rain. Lights stayed on, because the generator started on the 2nd pull when I tested it. Proving out your mod to the IH thermostat in cold weather is something to be happy for. Staying tuned to the learning / wood fired channel 😎👍

[@kingofobsolete4789]

not good weather you are having down there but at least you are ready for it. did the thermostats change overs in march but no cold day and so glad it worked the other day thansk

[@lowellfunk8974]

We heated with a double barrel system similar to this Joe for 15 years. Only our top barrel had a plate welded in the middle that made to the flow of air come up into the top barrel, then flow to the front of the barrel, around the end of the plate and then out into the old natural gas furnace chimney in our house. Plus we had the whole thing shrouded in with exterior tin with a old furnace fan for circulation into the old ductwork to the whole house. Was always nice and cozy throughout the house.❤😊

[@andydubois8411]

I heat with a 50 yr old Defiant. It has an internal damper that will increase the flame path to a 5 feet when closed much like the baffle you had on the top barrel.

[@kingofobsolete4789]

now that is one way of doing it. the more i thing the more i can't remember any double barrel stoves here in WHO-ville when everyone burned wood for heat. now every one just turns up the thermostat because they are not paying the bills thansk

[@jamiedalluge9472]

Glad we have all the good hardwood we have here in Michigans upper peninsula. Oak,maple,ash, cherry,beech,etc. Good seasoned wood helps tremendously as well

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes and no extreme high and low pressure air systems too thansk

[@kevingilbert9695]

That's cold🤘

[@ProgWork1]

Like my ex-wife. 😅

[@kingofobsolete4789]

not really, cold now as we speak(type) thansk

[@rogerstoney2203]

Need a grate in those wood stoves, keep the coals up off the bottom of the stove for air flow. Those barrel stoves need a grate 4 to 5 inches off the bottom for air circulation through the bed of coals.

[@kingofobsolete4789]

never had a problem till the double barrel was added thansk

[@dave-uf8ir]

Hey sir Rodney cheers from Oregon lol 😊

[@ProgWork1]

Hi Dave, pls ship some Oregon trees up north, would you ? 😊

[@dave-uf8ir]

Wish I could we have alot cheers 🥂

[@dave-uf8ir]

Funny thing is built my house 20 years ago lumber & structural wood came from Canada 🍁 go figure cheers 🥂

[@SirRodney515]

Cheers Dave

[@kingofobsolete4789]

excellent thansk

[@benjamincresswell3713]

Wow! Almost as cold as Yakutia Siberia. They stop sending little kids to school when it gets to -30°C, but the older ones keep going until it hits -50°C. No mention of wind chill. Befor you trash your dbbl barrel stove, try putting a grate about 4 - 6" above the bottom so the Red hot coals can get air under them and be sucked up thru them. That big old gate valve you have might be too restrictive for optimum results, but if you draw the air up thru the coals I guarantee it will burn too hot and you'll have to close the inlet air valve. That's how my stove works and it's a monster with the lower/ ash door open. ben/ michigan

[@kingofobsolete4789]

nothing changed and the stove worked and put out heat untill i put the top barrel on thansk

[@wildchild4163]

It was -9 this AM , 7:30 PM -11 . The wife when to work early , 😊 to turn her keys in , it's her last night of WORK ,she finely retired . She got her self a new puppy. Im so happy for her now . 😊

[@kingofobsolete4789]

excellent, someone else finally got smart and retired like i did. pointless to keep working now to enjoy life thansk

[@wildchild4163]

​@@kingofobsolete478945+years of Brittany spaniel s . My last passed in June, then see talked me in to a visual, that thing is lot more hipper that any brit . She got a corki . It will be he little bed warmer . Getting good on the potty training .

[@roberttrojanowicz7747]

My retirement day as well. Handed in my keys and badge at 530 pm after 44 yrs.

[@paulgumper]

I had some of the same problems when I tried the double barrel thing. My issue was that the 13 inch steel pipe I used for a chimney was too big. It never got hot enough to pull a draft through the barrels. Switched to an 8 inch pipe and removed the top barrel and I got some heat. I think that barrels are too deep too. The air never seems to get to the wood way in the back. You'll figure it out Joey! You always do.

[@kingofobsolete4789]

the bottom one worked good for over 25 years, time to go back to the way it was because low pressure is common up here. thansk

[@tomarmstrong4156]

I think the grate idea has merit. Also too the top barrel could be cooling the smoke gasses too much. The flue pipe needs to be hot to create draft. We always had really thin stovepipe inside. I wonder if that helps.

[@kingofobsolete4789]

just low pressure and nothing will burn thansk

[@ozwzrd]

You're learning the difference between something that merely burns wood and something that actually heats using wood for fuel. After all...this is the learning channel.

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes burning with no heat is not good thansk

[@wibble417]

Hey Mr Barns, it’s Chris from the fatherland 😊. Thinking about your wood burner problems, does the fire pick up at all when the shed door is open? If it does then you may find that you need to provide the stove with more air to burn. I was a domestic heating engineer and this was a common problem especially if the house had been renovated with new tight fitting windows and doors etc basically because the old loosely fitting fixtures allowed enough air to pass through. We would then have to create a permanent air vent to outside to provide enough air for the appliance to burn. Something also to consider are other fans or forms of forced ventilation that will have an impact on the air circulation inside the building. Hope this helps enjoying the channel as always. Chris from South West England.

[@kingofobsolete4789]

we have the dog doors which allow the dogs in and out so the buildings are not air tight. any heat loss from the dog doors is acceptable because with out the dogs we would have no windows in the Kingdom. when in a low air pressure, water on the stove will no boil so fires will not burn. in a high pressure system, water boils quickly on the stove and the fire in the wood stove burns out of control. thansk

[@wibble417]

@ that’s very interesting I’ve not had any experience with such weather systems, I’m curious to know if there’s any way around the problem 🤔

[@karlaalders644]

Lol i used the term bionic today as well!!!! Steve Austin the $6 million dollar man !!!! We.went from -16 cel too + 16 cel and now we have 100km/hr winds and rain!!! Oh my !!!

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes we all enjoyed the show and even better when he became the "fall guy" thansk

[@michaelmcclure8673]

King joey don't give up . Don't let that stove get your blood pressure up . Howdy Princess Xenia, you looked chilly today . 🥶🥶

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes the reason for me to drink thansk

[@terrythompson3504]

❤LOVE WATCHING YOUR VIDEOS

[@kingofobsolete4789]

thank you thansk

[@charlesdowning6147]

Sorry you're having such a shitty time with your wood stove im confident that you'll get it worked out you always do be a good day to just keep warm with high content beverages.

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes i learned 20 years ago and should have never tried to improve, oh well thansk

[@LarryDeSilva64]

Yes that low pressure is a fire killer for sure. You need to have a warm shop to work. My garage is not heated so if its 40 outside it 40 in there. Cant work on my M37 project. Cant use my propane torpedo heater because it has an open flame complete fire hazard so anyway hope your days get better.

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes cold days means a day off which is a good thing thansk

[@40ny]

Better luck tomorrow. Hope you can sort out that stove.

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes it is cold and i should have warm heat thansk

[@kennethsonier1766]

Good morning from Cape Cod ⛵ 54 degrees and raining once again. I like those ptarmigan, of course not through my radiator 😉 sorry your wood stove is causing you fits, I'm confident you'll get it figured out Joey 👍 hey at least Dick didn't annoy you today 😉 keep up the great work guys and thanks for another awesome video ✌️🇺🇲🇨🇦PS good morning Sir Rodney and shipper Paul 🌞

[@SirRodney515]

Good morning kenneth

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes it is nice not having Dick bussing through the yard as i fight to get the shop warmed up thansk

[@RickLandeau]

You should be warming up soon, we had the cold and now it's pushing back north past yous guys. Hang in there bud. Rick

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes we did warm up over night all because the sun dogs told us thansk

[@digger413]

Things will get better,you are being tested

[@dave-uf8ir]

Yes I'm being tested also lol 😊

[@kingofobsolete4789]

i never drank till i came to WHO-ville, lol thansk

[@dave-uf8ir]

@@digger413 😎

[@billreynolds1749]

Morning from Gagetown, I’m struggling to heat my shop too, I was using propane heater with a fan, but now it only works on, low, and medium, if I turn it up, it’s shutting down, bad valve I guess, I’m going to go back to wood I think. Oh the struggle lol. Hope everyone has a great day 🇨🇦🇺🇸🍺🥃

[@kingofobsolete4789]

you could be burning the vapours of the propane faster then it can be changed from the liquid to gas. up here propane used to be good then they went to a lower grade and totally useless when cold. wood is a lot better. thansk

[@joebehling5151]

Hello from Hartford WISCONSIN USA. It's 6 degree tonight with the wind it feels like-20 degrees

[@kingofobsolete4789]

now that would feel chilly thansk

[@Westernmassoutdoorboys]

Was up guys n gals awesome 👌 video again

[@kingofobsolete4789]

thank you, just having fun thansk

[@Martin.Wilson]

If your mechanical equipment is still working outside, it could be worse. In an Alberta winter freeze, the temperatures routinely drop to -40 to -50C and at that point, the hydraulics completely freeze on any outdoor equipment. We kept our Kabota in a heated shop overnight when it was -46C so it would start in the morning. It started fine and we drove it outside to let it warm up more and put the bucket on the ground....and that's where it stayed for a week until the freeze passed.

[@kingofobsolete4789]

we are used to working in the cold and getting machines running fact of life up here thansk

[@enginebill]

Try adding 4' to the top of the smoke pipe to get more draft on the wood stove.

[@kingofobsolete4789]

we did that in the past. low pressure means nothing rises include the bread you are baking in the oven thansk

[@Bryan_in_USA]

4:59: 'Tarmingans' starts with a "P" of course....😆

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes another great english word made hard to spell thansk

[@ProgWork1]

The forecast worked for once. I saw that -35C coming today (not yesterday though) (based on FlowX app, NOAA model)

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes you were correct and being 1/2 way around the world you need a victory beverage, lol thansk

[@ProgWork1]

@@kingofobsolete4789 I'll drink to that!

[@dish1634]

Yes joey get warm and have a cold drink. PA

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes got chilled fighting with the wood stove to make it burn thansk

[@sharonmartin1058]

Hi there We had the same problem with our stove. We had a boiler with a pipe coming out. You need to insulate the outside of the chimney from the roof up. I just used pink insulation. Good Luck.

[@kingofobsolete4789]

that will not work up here. the low air pressure is pushing down so nothing will rise up thansk

[@EnthusiasticTruck-xh7ss]

That's got to be super cold when nothing wants to move right you know that is way too cold for a human are your dogs to stay outside too long from Pennsylvania one time we hit -30. The house made such a huge crack in basement wall cracked and it pushed in into the house thank you for the video

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes frost in the ground is hard on the basements. so glad i don't have a basement thansk

[@ProgWork1]

You're so cool and gracious replying to our suggestions and... conspiracies 😅. Also too, you have an ex-wife to make fun of, and an ex-cavator to play with (though not fully-figured that one, haha). Thanks for all fun you give us, KoO ❤️ Stay warm this week, eh?

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes we are the learning channel so some ideas just won't work up here but will work some where else as a person reads thansk

[@davidsandberg7631]

watched a couple videos one guy has 2 pipes from bottom barrel to top. another guy lined his firebox with ceramic fiber board to make the chamber smaller and hotter. Good Luck getting yours better..... Darn ole strike Boo...

[@kingofobsolete4789]

the low pressure we get up here is bad and not much will burn thansk

[@mikesidley2307]

Having a hard time with my stove also,always when you need the heat.

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes strange that mother nature is like that thansk

[@larrysimpson6087]

My uncle had a draft inducer on his stove for a similar reason. It was basically a squirrel cage fan hall in the pipe. Maybe Sir Roger could find one and send it up in the crate.

[@SirRodney515]

I think that's Mr Roger your thinking about

[@kingofobsolete4789]

we have tried those over the years too, did not work in low pressure thansk

[@kingofobsolete4789]

@@SirRodney515 close, lol thansk

[@giork2828]

Issue seems to be low pressure + high gusts up top; wind directional chimney cap might be the answer (creates vacuum-induced draft 💪)

[@kingofobsolete4789]

no wind here, clear and cold. just wait for the air pressure to change thansk

[@joehaack7388]

Watching Jackson Michigan home of Aeroquip

[@kingofobsolete4789]

excellent thansk

[@mikkei3532]

Did you try Kelly kettle ? Amazing stuff to boil water in hard condition you need only few sheet of paper and few wood stics on few pine cones. Really amazing an extraordinary invention, when there is no electricity we are in the wilderness

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes that would work in a time of need thansk

[@Bryan_in_USA]

we actually have windchill in single-digits now .Dripping the faucet 💰💧 is still cheaper than $400 water line main repair ,lol.

[@kingofobsolete4789]

good plan because broke water lines can get expensive thansk

[@SK-tr9ii]

Well, I'm confused. Why does the stove in the basement of the staff's house draw so well and your shop stove doesn't? It looks to me like you need a bigger draft or at the very least a forced air draft for days when it doesn't draw well. Just my 2 cents with the info I can see in a video. I did have a wood stove made from 24.5 truck rims that I put a forced air blower on and set it up with a timer to run about 20 minutes then shut off for 40 minutes. It worked well for me but there may be variables that are different between my location and yours.

[@kingofobsolete4789]

we had to change hers in the fall, last year it would not burn on low pressure days. the double barrel design make it too hard for smoke to rise up in low pressure air system, even forcing it. thansk

[@jliketheletter637]

Could you cut a hole in the chimney weld. Pipe in the hole have a fan or compressor to inject air to the chimney and create draw in the fire box I fished with a guy who had a similar problem in his ice shack with his stove. This was his fix blow air out the chimney having some come from the stove due to the vacuum. It worked for him. Sound confusing with my poor description but I m sure you guys will get the idea or sparring a new idea. Good luck. J

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes we have tried the pipe in the chimney to blow up. in low pressure nothing will rise up thansk

[@danhately1106]

Chimney pipe should be at least 2 feet above the roof ridge. Good luck

[@kingofobsolete4789]

tried that in the past, low pressure water will not boil so wood will not burn thansk

[@960wattoffgridrv]

I use a wood stove on a regular basis as well. I know that pine creates a lot of creosote buildup in the chimney. I got a feeling that the upper burn chamber in your wood stove is probably getting clogged up. You've swept the chimney twice in the last month and barely anything comes out of the chimney. I don't know what method you are using to get your wood stove to light up. I use a small propane torch to get my wood stove to burn. Can you open the upper burn chamber to check if it's getting clogged up? I don't know if you're burning dry wood or if some of your firewood is slightly wet or green

[@kingofobsolete4789]

double barrel stoves don't work in low pressure air systems, i learned that 20 years ago and should have never done this one thansk

[@TruthProvider]

Bummer about the double barrel wood stove being a pain in the rear end.

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes should have changed it out last summer. thansk

[@57WillysCJ]

Windchill is -21 here so far. It will get colder in the night. I don't bother with the shop furnace in this weather unless really needed. It just eats wood or I have to hit it with the air hose to get it warmer.

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes when cold it cost way to much to keep it warm thansk

[@coriellallan1620]

How funny I just got off the roof and put my brush down too

[@kingofobsolete4789]

well that is good that you did not fall off the roof, lol thansk

[@smittywood-wp6he]

Perhaps u can clamp a t stat in the rad hose 🎉

[@kingofobsolete4789]

no that will not work thansk

[@richardott643]

The pa- tarmigan have the best winter camo.

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes winter is officially here when they have arrived from the arctic thansk

[@dalelangila9274]

Yes but we're making ice now 😊

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes that will be good thansk

[@24Garland]

😮😮😮

[@kingofobsolete4789]

thansk

[@tonyjones9715]

May be try adding more smoke pipe lots it might help.

[@kingofobsolete4789]

the low pressure makes it impossible to burn thansk

[@robertnewman-k8t]

the short pipe between the two barrels might be plugged

[@kingofobsolete4789]

it could be, will be checking thansk

[@jeremycherny2041]

Wood heaters won't burn here this morning either! Yesterday morning you could hardly control them

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes we have to be careful, won't burn then all a sudden they will burn thansk

[@owen33333]

Cold tonight in Florida, 45F. I like trying some of the grate ideas from subscribers. Easy to make and try?

[@kingofobsolete4789]

it is the fact in low pressure nothing burns. thansk

[@pcnetworks1292]

The stove afterburner suffers catastrophic constipation ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@kingofobsolete4789]

need to move where there is no low pressure thansk

[@seeveiw]

With the 2 barrel stove I’m surprised you haven’t had condensation running down in the flue pipe that top barrel cools the gasses off to much messing up the draft. You’re better off with a manual damper when you remove the top barrel. That was my experience with them

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes go back to the way it was, double barrel doe not work here thansk

[@RickLandeau]

Forgot to tell you I'm in Wisconsin USA.

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes that is just over there from here thansk

[@giork2828]

WAIT! At 10:00 flat, is the American flag frozen horizontally in time?! That’s NOT proper flag etiquette, Joey and Staff! 😅

[@kingofobsolete4789]

oh well have a drink, lol thansk

[@mkrogen1]

The glass is always half empty or half full 🤔 it looks like you’ll have two single barrel stove soon 😮you may have to train pigeons for the mail lol.

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes unreal the struggles this year. thansk

[@4sl648]

ptarmigan the p is silent like in swimming

[@40ny]

🤣

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes that is true thansk

[@smittywood-wp6he]

Also too cut up some old tires rubber makes good hot fire

[@kingofobsolete4789]

then the Swedish Kid would not be very happy, lol thansk

[@smittywood-wp6he]

Also too maybe you could use the top drum to dry the wood ???

[@kingofobsolete4789]

that would be a problem with not much heat coming out of the stove at all thansk

[@smittywood-wp6he]

Maybe that's why no draft?

[@smittywood-wp6he]

Stacks too cold

[@loosehandle1]

Have you ever tried a chimney cap? I made one once out of a frying pan and some miscellaneous tin.

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes in the past but never worked thansk

[@ProgWork1]

With the sealed up shop, I bet the pressure inside is a tad lower than the outside (same problem I have with single-duct portable AC). Have you ever considered an air vent duct from the wall feeding outside air straight into the fire chamber?

[@kingofobsolete4789]

we have dog doors for the dogs so there is air movement thansk

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[@kingofobsolete4789]

thansk

[@johnmeyer9108]

Put a fan in front of it itll push air and curculate air

[@kingofobsolete4789]

we do but low pressure is low pressure thansk

[@drewclarke5920]

"stainless steel" good if it's old stainless steel but nowadays SS....better check it with a magnet....

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes that is true. thansk

[@dinothelastdinosaur]

Couldn't you make a door in the top barrel and burn in that on low-pressure days? .. I dunno,I'm uneducated in the ways of the wilderness. i burn some wood,but not on that scale... I'm on uk benefits, but not enough money to put the bloody heating on. I bet you're warmer than i am... 😂 Good luck !!

[@kingofobsolete4789]

yes we thought of that but it will be better to go back to a single barrel stove. it is sad when you can't afford to be warm because the gov gives your money away thansk

[@dinothelastdinosaur]

Single barrel it is then. JD does a whiskey called single barrel... very nice ! Good luck King and staff ! ​@kingofobsolete4789

[@smittywood-wp6he]

Hey koo try soaking some wood in motor oil and diesel

[@kingofobsolete4789]

we do that too thansk

[@cbobscountrybunker2312]

How many square feet can you heat with a barrel stove.

[@kingofobsolete4789]

no idea but a barrel stove works a lot better then a double barrel one thansk

[@joshwebb609]

No it ain't 😂 i 2as gonna say

[@kingofobsolete4789]

ok thansk

[@joshwebb609]

T2o teef

[@kingofobsolete4789]

ok thansk

[@chump4952]

Is Papa gorg still the king of fraggle rock

[@kingofobsolete4789]

i think so thansk

[@larrysimpson6087]

Amazon $289.00 US

[@kingofobsolete4789]

ok thansk

[@JohnShinn1960]

Maybe the Department of Holidays has a few of those newfangled supersonic leaf blowers left over that they never used, you can attach them to the stoves. It wouldn't hurt to ask. Those Whovillian tax dollars gotta be flowin somewheres! Stayin tuned! 👍🤪 🇺🇸

[@kingofobsolete4789]

the last thing i would ever do is talk to the department of holidays here in WHO-ville, they hate me, lol thansk

[@smittywood-wp6he]

Hey koo maybe julie can be renamed as the fem cat lol😅😅😅😅

[@smittywood-wp6he]

For the queen running ur state🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@kingofobsolete4789]

i don't think so, only boy cats here thansk

[@smittywood-wp6he]

@@kingofobsolete4789 kool