TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE? Vincent SV 237 Mk2

[@lekmannen9990]

This channel is by far the most entertaining, professional and trustworthy hifi review channel on yt imo. Always great picks for review and a lot of the time out of the mainstream and a little more niche as I like it.

[@johnristheanswer]

Agreed. * professional * a lot.

[@lekmannen9990]

@@johnristheanswer thanks and fixed. Hope it makes you happy 👍 Spell check in my native language makes it hard to write in english sorry.

[@manny2230]

I watch most of the reviewers on KZbin and I noticed they say always good things about the product they reviewing,never a bad thing. It’s impossible to understand what’s what. But this channel is a bit different,I hope Tarum is a honest reviewer and does it for the people,not for money

[@lekmannen9990]

@@YuengsNwings the information presented in the videos seem balanced and honest.

[@hsinkai1557]

Totally agree

[@alm5693]

I'm happy to see Vincent getting some attention from YT reviewers. I bought a Vincent SV-500 for $1000 US just before the pandemic hit and I've recently paired them up with KLH Model 3s. I live in a co-op so I'm not able to blast away at volumes I listened to back in the 70's, but the sound and look of the combo brings back the feeling I had listening to the stereo back in my mis-spent college years.

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Happy memories, I am sure. Thank you for sharing 👍

[@AdamPotaznik]

I also have the SV-500, have not given it much use due to change of living situation but moving into my forever home in a few weeks.... Good choice I hope!

[@alm5693]

@@AdamPotaznik I was in the same situation where I wasn't using it much until I moved out of my old old house into a senior co-op building. It's a great choice for my new place and I hope you wind up liking it too. I've been selling off some extra equipment and a deep vintage fanatic came over and told me how well I'd chosen my modern components. He pointed specifically at the SV-500. It made me feel so good that he was impressed by my modest system.

[@vks4392]

@@AdamPotaznikI started with Vincent SV-500 went to Vincent 237 Mk ( which I sold it to my buddy ) and then currently listening to Vincent SP-20 Power Amp + Vincent SA-T7 Pre-amp comb with Bluesound Node 2i DAC. Love it

[@alm5693]

@@williamsparkman1874 They're warm, but I usually have the high end attenuated down one notch at the speaker. I'm finding that they tend to not play well with overbaked 80s and 90s productions. If the CD sounds harsh, the speakers won't cover it up. I'm kind of tag-teaming the speaker's attenuators and the Vincent's treble control to try to find a nice balance for harsh CDs. The system still reminds me of my 70's set-ups with a really good CD or LP.

[@markphilpot8734]

Honesty is what sets your reviews apart from the vast majority. You don’t cut any ice when it comes to letting us know it’s strengths and weaknesses. That is what I call fair. The Burr Brown chips are what sets them apart from others. I prefer the Burr Brown phono chip over the one that ordinarily comes on my AGI 511 preamp. It completely changes it into the highest class in resolution and detail. This chip DAC is not bad, but it won’t lick any external DAC like a Venus or a Spring 3 KTE even. Can’t expect that from a simple chip DAC. I prefer the tube rear end rather than the front end as this yields more detail in my experience and more resolution. It is heavily influenced by partnering equipment as well. Speaker choices are very limited with my choice using tubes but having subs made that easier. My EBTs loved the RM9. It was a glorious sound. Best tube amp I have ever heard. Thing is now I would rather not have to fiddle with tubes even though I like their sound, EL34s in particular. They have a sound very easy to love, fluid and transparent with just a touch of sweetness. I prefer a more open and transparent sound now. Resolution which doesn’t hide any flaws, in other words, brutally honest. It separates the real performers from the wannabes. It is harder to make the cut both in individual component choices as well as content as it doesn’t forgive flaws in components or media choices. This can limit what is pleasurable, but I also have a less resolving system in my bedroom just for those media choices that don’t cut the primary system grade. You must find what suits your own ears. They are the ones that matter. Press on Tarun. People notice your way and you are winning over more people everyday. Don’t go changing.

[@michaelrossmaessler200]

I always appreciate that the comment section with Tarun's reviews is so civilized. It's like an intelligent letters to editor with a print audio magazine. This channel is print magazine quality. 🙂

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you Michael. That is very kind. It is a great community we have here 😊👍

[@30ra]

I have the Vincent 237 MK for the last few years and it still surprises me with its sound quality. It brings life to the sound in a way that other amps can’t achieve in my opinion. (at least in this price range) I paired it with the Wharfadale Evo 4.1s and Rega Dac. I finally settled in a system that still gives me pure joy every time I listen to it.

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Great 👍

[@fletchermunson6225]

Thanks Tarun. I had the luxury of auditioning the Vincent against the Unico Primo hybrid integrated and I landed on the Primo. Just had more life and realism to me although it was a while ago so I'm reluctant to get too expansive. The Unico was very nicely built and the tubes added their magic. Build quality was excellent. I did find myself annoyed by the small space Vincent allocated to the visible tube and was difficult to change out. As I recall the Unico delivered more depth and holographic sound. Just wrangling the brute around to set it up and return it was interesting. I now have a hybrid tube preamp a Rogue RP-5 with four ECC82 tubes and combine that with two Belles Mono amps. I have evolved into a definite liking for tube preamps combined with solid state amplifiers. Perhaps I'm just done with dealing with large power tubes.

[@markd4292]

I was waiting for Vincent to send Tarun their SV237 MKll for some time now before I decide to get the Exposure 3510 integrated. And here you are putting your Unico Primo against the Vincent, which I was always curious how that fight would turn out. Aside from the Exposure 3510, I have had my eyes on the Unison Research gear (Unison Primo or Unico Due); you are the closest person I know that has paired this against the Vincent and decided on the Union Research. Thank you for sharing. Tarun's other review on the NVA mono blocks sounds amazing: I think my decision on an amp or integrated has finally been shriveled down to the Unison Research, NVA, Exposure or Vincent. Now it's time to ask Tarun. I usually don't make a move until I hear his reviews because it seems we have a similar ear and above all he's just spot on the description and suggested pairing for me.

[@fletchermunson6225]

It's difficult. Recommend also checking out Zero Fidelity's review of the Primo. He thought little bright when pressed and recommended a certain tube with it. I found it best after some tube rolling. Small things like the stamped metal lid on the Vincent vs the machined anodized aluminum top plate on the Primo seemed to make difference with me. You might want to shop around for used Primos. When I got mine it was an introductory price of $2000. Now I believe $2500 or more. Its a difficult decision. Ive never heard the Exposure but it must be good. @@markd4292

[@markd4292]

Hi Fletcher. What speakers do you have your Primo Unico driving? I have a local dealer of Unison Research products and I like to demo the Due, especially that they have a trade in deal and they usually sell open box or floor models for sale. Can't beat that. Right now I have a pair of Sonus Faber Lumina 5. I like them but I do believe and I heard elsewhere that they do like some power in the capacitor department. The Primo Due offers 80,000 microfarads of raw power and are stable down to 2 ohms which mathematically speaking should be great for these speakers (well aside from Tarun's suggestion for the Exposure 3510 - which I am sure will also be a great pairing). I will be buying the Exposure blindly w/o a demo but if I can demo the Due I rather start there first and if I don't care for it I'll get the Exposure. My speakers are rated 4ohms at 89dB. I may upgrade to the Sonus Faber Sonetto 5 or 7 maybe, or I may go in a totally different direction and get the more sensitive Klipsch Forte IV. I am a fan of horn speakers, despite their shortcomings, I just thought the Sonus Faber although not as dynamic as Klipsch got me pretty close to that experience compared to other brands I listened to. Cheers

[@fletchermunson6225]

@@markd4292 Hi Mark. I do indeed hope you like the Primo. It worked for me. I believe I was using Klipsch 16

[@mahessilva7504]

Tarun! It's such a pleasure to listen to your reviews unbiased and succinctly presented with excellent clarity and superb diction! Keep em coming Tarun!

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you kindly my friend 😊👍

[@roccobruno8027]

It's really nice to see Vincent get some love. I hope you're able to review the SP-T700 and SA-T7MK matching preamp.

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

I appreciate the suggestion 😊

[@EMP698]

I own the smaller brother Vincent SV 227MK, puts 100W into 8 Ohms, paired with a pair Graham Audio Chartwell LS6. Very happy with the combo for a small room. Versatile, beautiful sounding and lovely botton end.

[@paulhiggins6740]

Unbelievable..first, was wondering where you had got to recently, and secondly, your first review back is of my no. 1 amp in my system. I have the MK version, which is virtually identical except it doesn’t have the DAC/Bluetooth, which I already have in another amplifier, and scored the MK for more than 50% off the retail as they were introducing the MK2. Great review Tarun, and so pleased to see someone like yourself(one of the very best audiophile reviewers on KZbin) giving kudos to this fabulous brand that deserves to be more widely known. Vincent gear is absolutely top notch quality. Kia ora from New Zealand.

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you Paul. Much appreciated. You picked up quite the bargain 😊👍

[@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120]

Love the Volume Control , The volume control is so important in amp design even the power switch is so important 'Thanks Tarun (Looks like Teac volume control ) I am an integrated amp Enthuist ' Espically now days that speakers have made a huge improvement since the 90s '

[@Simon_Hawkshaw]

Glad you got away for a break and are back safe and sound with us all. Great equipment and review. I am also mesmerized by glowing tubes and flashing lights. Add in a spectrum analyzer and EQ, and I'm sold. Thank you for your time and efforts sharing this with us all. Take care, Sir.

[@timothymoorman7437]

What a pleasant surprise. I haven't seen this attention to old school build quality in many moons. I had hopes that the unit would blow your socks off, but no. No raves, just an appreciation for the effort put forth to introduce such a good sounding, attractive unit.. Thanks for the great review, once again. Anxiously awaiting the complete absence of your socks.

[@jakus514]

This integrated is very choked up by the stock tubes! Rolling in some NOS Sylvania 5751 (12ax7) and Siemens and Halske E88CC (6n1p) opened it up and let it breathe like i couldnt believe. Since then, i havent felt a lack of detail, and im definitely experiencing a holgraphic stage, all while retaining and improving upon its wonderfuly rich tonality :) And thank you from the excellent review as always!

[@WSS_the_OG]

Just make sure you're doing a blind test on the tubes, for your own sake. I got caught on this myself when my very good friend had a go at me for being over-excited about tube-rolling. Let me just say, I ate humble pie for dinner that evening, haha. In my opinion, tubes in general have a sound. Tube rolling makes differences, but they're quite narrow (unless you get very bad tubes as a stock configuration).

[@jakus514]

@WSS_the_OG I haven't gone for totally blind, but I have consistently experienced the same sonic differences going between tube to tube, and back again. And I have absolutely experienced myself being prone psychoacoustics, so there's that too 😅 I believe there are fairly small differences between most tubes, but sometimes there are very synergistic matches that really get the unit singing, and just the opposite and it's unlistenable!

[@billwoods9302]

If memory serves me, the tube on display in the small round window is what directly powers the headphone output. At least, that is what was claimed in an old brochure from Audio Adviser when they were selling previous versions of this model. From what I've seen on various reviews, Vincent is kind of underrated for the quality they produce. Great review Tarun.

[@davidwald2938]

Prior to buying this amp I had a love/hate relationship with my Forte IV's. Now it's all love and as you mentioned, the Forte"s are lively like the JBL's and a match made in heaven. And I did try a Decware SET amp and Yamaha AS2200 both of which just made an already unforgiving speaker more so, but with the Vincent I get a more powerful/prominent yet somehow softer in character bass with silky smooth mids and highs!

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you for sharing 😊

[@marcus1970]

Tarun, so true to remark that just as component matching/synergy is very real, so are the internally chosen electronic components (and their implimentation ) I think that is why some units can hold back an overall system beyond a certain point. Glad you had a great time away. 👍🏻

[@kevinusta7534]

I actually have the Vincent SP-32 preamp paired with the R8. It added the richness and body to the mids that I felt the R8 needed. The bass rounded nicely, while the upper frequencies became more fluid without sacrificing detail, clarity or coherency. Tubes are the PSVane 3L34PH, Raytheon 6SN7GTB, Raytheon 6SL7 VT-229 Speakers are the Philharmonic BMR

[@robertchattin-smith4321]

Thanks Tarun, cool review. Recently changed from Rega Elex-r amp and Exposure 2010s2 cd player to Uninson Research Unico Primo amp and cd player. Couldn't resist them as they were on sale in a local electrical store, ex display and going for a song, £500 each. There's have one tube in each unit and after a bit of cable swapping, I'm loving the sound coming out of my Epos K2 speakers. Running the cd player through a Pathos Converto mk1 dac for an experiment. Subtle differences. Will keep the Pathos hooked up for now. Will be looking into tube rolling soon. Great channel young man.

[@josesousa272]

I've a a full Vincent set of pre+power+cd player for around 12 years. Still impressed by the sound of it. Speakers are monitor Amphion's.

[@mikecampbell5856]

What a beautiful unit! You keep bringing us these future classics. Thanks for sharing. My favorite tube device is my 1936 Silvertone 4485 radio. 3 watts of class A power and it has a visible tube at the top of the tuning dial.

[@HansDelbruck53]

I just ordered one of these amps ($3000 in the US) based partially on this review and other glowing reviews on KZbin. Going to pair it with Emotiva T2+ speakers I just bought and a subwoofer (if necessary).

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Cool 😎

[@michaelrossmaessler200]

Welcome back Tarun ! Very nice review. Tubes and Class A "The Holy Grail" but unlike with separates a more affordable grail. This unit sounds like it would do well with non-audiophile (real world recordings) that could use some smoothness without giving up too much in return. No matter what your format(s) are, we all have recordings with great performances and recording quality that could use some help. Early CDs come to mind as well as the original version of Metallica's 'Death Magnetic'.

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you. I agree. There is some great music that hasn’t been recorded well 😊

[@brown-eyedman4040]

Thank you, Tarun and welcome back. Hard to believe you gave up the joys of an English summer to spend time in sunny Crete. For me, my first (fantasy) choice would be class A SETs, but I'm one of those who favor the sound of tubes. For those who prefer the sound of solid-state, "good on ya" as they say in the antipodes. Plenty of room in this hobby for a variety of tastes. My rig consists of a tube preamp and class A monoblocs. A potential problem with this approach is synergy. The Vincent integrated approach is one way to solve this. My solution was/is preamp and monoblocs from one manufacturer.

[@TheNaka9]

Another well thought review. Thanks Tarum :) I have the SV-237MK for a little more than a year now and I absolutely love it… even with the stock tubes! All my (four) pairs of speakers are very difficult to drive (around 85db / 4 Ohm) and the Vincent can make them work beautifully… although on different speaker cables. Once again your recommendation is spot on.

[@tb17351]

237mk amazing amp. Tarun should make another review with good dac. The vincent internal dac is quite bad

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you 👍

[@paulfisher8753]

I have an old Vincent SV-129, 50 watts but sounds far larger, great sound from it and was impressed the first time I heard it. Underrated manafactuer that make some classy sounding amps...

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you for sharing 😊

[@MisterJDee]

I spent a few days auditioning the Vincent 237m2 and I really liked it. It felt muscular and confident, however in the end I didn’t end up buying it. Although the amp sounded great, I felt like it was only really good for a narrow range of speakers/music genre’s. I think that if you know that it’s sound suits your music taste, then fine, you’ll love it, but if you listen to a variety of music styles, I’m not sure that it’s that versatile. For example if you like electronic dance music… it’s not the amp for that really. Loved the tone controls and particularly the loud button. Made low volume listening an absolute pleasure.

[@jakus514]

Interesting you say it's not great with edm, in my system and imo, that's where it really shines. Feels like a monster in my space lol. Do you mind if I ask what you're pairing it with?

[@MisterJDee]

I was auditioning it with a pair of Heco Celan rev3 speakers. Dont get me wrong, it was good... but it just lacked that energy and detail in the upper mid/highs that give it that super fun party sound. With more mellow vocal music, or instrumental, it was devine. My wife, daughter and myself have very different music tastes, and i just didnt feel it was suitable for that diversity. Its the same way I feel about the Buchardt p300 speakers... Beautiful speaker, for particular type of music... just not an allrounder .... but thats just my opinion. @@jakus514

[@DrGIzmoBRad]

I use 6DJ8 dual triodes configured as series regulated push-pull 'SRPP' preamp stages. They drive both valve & solid state power amplifiers equally well. The SRPP configuration stacks one triode atop the other to make an even more symmetrically linear preamp. They're particularly good at driving lower impedances from 2.5K. My guess is that the Vincent is using their 6n1p valves in SRPP mode - liquid smooth midrange fluidity is a trademark characteristic of SRPP. Thanks for l👀king into the Vincent Hybrid amp ~ you've again provided an excellent overview as well as an in-depth assessment of yet another fine audio offering.

[@fts81]

Terrific, I love when you review tube gear, there’s always a new thing to learn. And I’ve always been curious to hear about Vincent products. Thanks!

[@bobb.9917]

I thought that you must be "on holiday"! 😅 MY GOD! I have never seen this much integrated amp for the money and I agree with you…in the silver it's a stunning museum piece….so it’s is disappointing that it lacks truly exciting sound expectations. I am a fan of the design approach..I have a tube preamp that I have upgraded significantly all the resistors and capacitors..and a Denefrips Pontus II and a powerful McIntosh solid state amp. I've compared it to nothing 😅 but always look forward to powering it all up for listening and discovering! Good to see you back with your wonderful tours of the innards and explanations of design! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼😀

[@garysandison904]

Excellent review Vincent is so underated i owned the MK1 of the 237MK also now have the SAT7 pre amp paired with some big 998 monoblocks from Vincent sounds superb also i have the DAC 7 made by Vincent excellent DAC

[@BeyondResolution]

Vincent is a brand that does not get the recognition it deserves. Much because that is is a ShengYa product in many ways. But i am happy to see that ShengYa and Vincent product now don't look the same anymore..Before the Vincent stuff just looked like rebranded ShengYa. I have had many Vincent products and they have been great. :)

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Cool. Thanks Thank you for sharing your experiences 😊

[@lawrencesommaesq.9944]

Jay of Jay’s iyagi had a very positive reaction to this Vincent amp in case anyone missed it. Good to hear another positive review. Vincent audio seems very hidden on the inter webs for some reason.

[@Drivehead103]

I recently purchased Vincent SV 237mk and will probably be selling it because it lacks Bass. Driving cerwin-vega e712 very efficient 98 DB 300-watt three-way. Been using Onkyo TX 8511 for over 15 years and it makes them Rock. Currently trying Rotel separates, 200 watts into eight ohms and 350 watts into four ohms. Making the cerwin Vegas sing, sounding like an entirely different speaker. Instrument separation, soundstage and the bass is astonishing. Never realized how much I was missing without proper power. I'm not a fan of boom boom bass but the bass I am hearing is like hearing more of the notes. Like 75% more of the note!!! I really wanted to like the Vincent s v237 because it is what I have been looking at for over 6 years. Its mid-range and sparkling top end is incredible. Beautiful amplifier with exceptional build quality. Just not my cup of tea, I should have tried one off of Amazon or somewhere that offers a trial.

[@magnaman94]

I have a Vincent sp- 332 I was underwhelmed with the bass. It took a long time to break in and bass is late to the party. This amp a keeper.

[@Drivehead103]

@@magnaman94 I don't know what I will end up settling with. Rotel separates are great at what they do but something is lacking in presenting rock music. I think I prefer more of a live sound than studio sound.

[@joestarkie5597]

I thought the black quite hansome and part and build impressive but the ears have the final say. Another good job Tarun.

[@lfazio9690]

Great review as always Tarun, many thanks! As for your question, it’s hard to “pin down” a hypothetical location for tubes without understanding the total kit, and current presentation, or goal of adding them, so I’ll answer like this - it depends on what apparent problems exist. If you feel your system is very harsh or bright, I’d go for the location that may have the most significant impact, and in my opinion, that could be the amplifier or pre-amp. If one is mostly satisfied with the presentation, and feels a “hint” of color or smoothness of midrange is needed, then maybe I’d go for a less intrusive position such as the pre-amp or phono pre-amp. I’m not familiar with DACs equipped with tubes but moving to an R2R DAC may have the intended affect, something like the Aeries II 😊. I also think it’s important to point out that understanding the impact of tubes is task #1. Then applying that knowledge to your presentation, so you have a proper understanding of what the results might be, and more importantly, corrections that cannot be resolved by tubes. For example, if your presentation is the result of poorly mismatched kit and poor room acoustics and setup, well, it’s unlikely the addition of tubes will provide the intended result. Yes, improvements may be achieved, just not at the level one might have expected. As they say, “all disappointment is the result of misplaced expectations,” and very appropriate for all things HiFi 😊 I’m currently searching for speakers and really have my eye set on the S400MKII. I have extremely hard surfaces; lots of tile and glass, so I believe the Buchardts would work well. Finding the proper amp to accommodate them is being researched simultaneously, therefore, if anyone has suggestions, I’m all ears 😊 Thanks again for a wonderful review and hopefully your vacation was restful and enjoyable. Keep up the great work!

[@Venus_Isle]

I have the Vincent PHO 701 phono stage, which is also excellent for the money. Interestingly it uses a very similar 12 AU7 tube to the 12 AX7 used in this amp. The 701 certainly benefitted from tube rolling, so I'd expect this unit to do likewise...

[@stevezeidman7224]

You always do such a great job, Tarun. I never tire of your content. It’s terrifically well produced. I was very interested in this product until you described how it sounds. I have vintage McIntosh which also excels in providing liquid midrange along with a wide stage. However I’ve never actually heard what I’d call a holographic experience. I’d love to get a hybrid amp that will deliver that. A “Recommended” from Tarun is decidedly luke warm.

[@FritzBrew]

Another great review. It's nice that your review products that are tangible as they are affordable and not hard to obtain.

[@grechan]

Nice review of a brand that doesn't get a lot of exposure in the reviewer universe. I have had a Vincent SA-31 / SP-331 combo for many years. Both use the tube/SS hybrid design and I like the pre-amp especially. The SP-331 is a really nice amp for Magnepans, in my opinion, though I've recently been letting it play with some Rogers LS3/5As and that is a very nice combo as well. Anyway, thanks for the review.

[@lamarw9901]

Hi Tarun, Always enjoy the review and the look at what is inside. The Vincent has been on my radar but being in the USA they are even more niche. I have been looking to pair something with Magnepans and the big transformer is a delight to see. I also like the DAC explanation. Many reviewer do not give this level of detail into the synergy and parts.

[@nishalp1747]

Wow, what at splendid marrying of different amplifier classes to produce a well sounding unit. Thank for the technical insight as well.

[@titntin5178]

Thanks Tarun, another enjoyable review of an interesting piece of kit. Im pretty sure a tube preamp and solid state power amp will be my end game set up. For now im using my Auralic G1 as a preamp to feed my Naim Nap 250DR power amp, but Id love to try a decent tube preamp. If you, or indeed any of your fine viewers, have any ideas of units that might work well in such a set up, Id love to hear thoughts and suggestions - its just about SQ, the Auralic is likely to the only source component connected. Always happy when you post a new video, have a great week!

[@williamhicks2763]

It’s far more expensive but the BHK Signature Preamplifier is one I’m cross shopping. Unlike the Vincent’s, it can do L/R balance and every input can be set to Home Theater Bypass, which are two features I really need.

[@adolphhernandez7615]

I have the older 236mk2, I noticed a significant improvement of sound quality when I upgraded the three 12AX7 tubes. I've had my amp for nearly ten years and I have no desire to upgrade, a comparable upgrade would be almost twice the price I originally paid for my amp. Good review mate!

[@itsvladzino3246]

Hi, What tubes did you pick for your upgrade? Cheers

[@ianwilkinson4602]

@@itsvladzino3246 The most important thing to me, is that the tubes/valves are electronically matched.

[@jonathandavis9507]

Love the look of this. The tube window is a fantastic touch.

[@ciejaygear]

As of the kast 2 yrs, I have 10 tubes in the pre-amp. It's a game changer. I know what 'lit within' means now. Wished I did it 20 yrs ago. You're awesome Brit. Thanks for your channel.

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you kindly 😊👍

[@smuconn]

Terrific review marked, as usual, by a clear, technical examination of the amp. As to your question: we acquired a Rogue Audio Sphinx V.3 three years ago. It is an integrated hybrid amp: Class D power through a tubed output stage, 100 WPC @ 8 Ohms. A Herb Reichert review put us on the trail of the amp and a terrific, home-based hi-fi seller had us over to his place for a long audition with all parties masked. For our money, it's a great, high value amp with a fluid, musical mid-range and excellent grip on the bass.

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you. Much appreciated. I need to get my hands on the Sphinx V3 😊👍

[@MrMjdv01]

Aaah… the rabbit hole of hybrids! Thanks for the outstanding review! I love your matter of fact approach. I myself started with transistor amps, then got introduced to the tube sound and was sold. But the power combined with the tube sound is just heaven for me. I purchased the unison research unico nuovo and I’ve never looked back. Perhaps an idea to compare or review these hybrid amps? Unison research has a whole line of them!

[@MrMjdv01]

And a question to top it of, would tube rolling maybe help with the sound?

[@badpenny7820]

Blessed are the Nuovo owners, for they know what evil lurks in headphone circuitry.

[@adrianconti5718]

Always been super impressed with Vincent Gear, their tubes and class A Bias hits my listening sweet spot! Great review as always!

[@carlosmier4380]

note: Vincent is a german "brand" but not a "manufacturer". Its product is made by Zhongshan ShengYa (China). Vincent is part of the Sintron Distribution company, same as Dynabox (made in Taiwan). Would not know what was first, the chicken or the egg... But good products at a good price.

[@matthewtaylor7355]

Looks like those Shenya pre amps on Ali with 2 grand Mark up.. My Mineva 600GBP 300B amps sounds fine.. I f icon Audio sold it it wud b 2 grand +

[@mounirehab]

That's why I don't trust Vincent , simply because they are claiming they made their own design and it's not true...

[@TheNaka9]

I believe that this particular amp (SV-237MK/MKII) is indeed a german design, a work of Mr. Frank Blohbaum.

[@tomons8059]

​​​ Vincent is a brand of high-end audio products designed and developed by Sintron Distribution GmbH (A German company that registered the Vincent trademark in 1995 and continues to develop Vincent products.) Sintron manufactures some technologically important parts in Germany and assembles some products there as well. Just like Apple who invented the iphone in the USA, many Vincent amplifiers, including the SV-737, are now manufactured in China, just like other companies, to avail of China's low manufacturing cost and its VERY HUGE local consumer market (emphasis mine).

[@tomons8059]

It's like this: "iPhone is not made by iPhone." It's designed and originally made by Apple USA. Now, manufacturing is done in Taiwan and China, and India by year 2025. Still iphones are designed by Apple USA and manufactured somewhere else. Likewise, Vincent Audio is owned by Sintron Distribution GmbH of Germany and technologically important parts are manufactured in Germany and a number of products are also assembled in Germany while other products are made in China. So, are Vincent amplifiers made in China? Sure, just like iPhones are made in Taiwan and China.

[@pjono77]

I love the look of the glowing valves at night. I have a Galion TS120SE and it's a fantastic amp with all my listening in Class a. Keep up the great work Tarun.

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you kindly 👍

[@joeythedime1838]

Excellent unbias review. Vincent was on my short list for a second system that I was building. In the end I went a different direction and choose a Luxman L-509X, but it's very nice to see Vincent getting some review time. Thank you.

[@joachim5080]

I have a vincent but plan to buy the L509x as well- dealing with white noise, replacing tubes etc is too much hassle for me

[@cesarjlisboa7586]

Thanks for another honest and detailed review Tarun.

[@hugocosta179]

Great to see a Vincent review thanks Tarun

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you 😊

[@a29h17]

I moved away from tubes three years ago and I am using Atoll IN200 Signature and audiolab 8300a integrated amplifiers. They provide more detail, dynamics, bass and power without having to watch tubes change their sound every 300 hours. And if I ever miss the sweetness of EL34 tubes, then I can always get solid-state amplifiers like the Audiaflight. FLS3.

[@vks4392]

Oh long waited review. Thanks so much Mr. Tarun for reviewing Vincent Amp. Which I currently use. I am a fan of their brand. And I love its sound signature. Perfect match with ADS / Braun Speakers

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you You are most welcome 😊

[@rvbsoundfactory]

Great looking amplifier. I like the way you can pop the hood and look inside to see all the components. Not just the way you know what any of them are for. Just like the fact. 42 LB in weight. A Beast.

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you 😊

[@webersteve1547]

This exists also as a standalone pre-amp and it is a marvel .

[@andrewlittleboy8532]

Another fantastic review! My only visual criticism is the knobs look too small, especially with the outer ring printed around them, they look like the original ones have been lost and someone found some spares to put on. Also the notorious blue LED’s, green, red and amber are the best.

[@timsdeskontask3958]

Hello Tarun - I apologize for responding a little late to this review, but I thought of an opportunity you might be able to utilize to provide a needed insight to your listeners. I am like several people that commented below - I have been a happy owner of the Vincent SV500 and am always so surprised that no one talks about this brand, and in particular, this amp. I would love to see your impressions of the SV500 in comparison to the 237 MKII, and use this opportunity to discuss what you get when you move up a rung on the ladder - I am always wondering if moving up another level really gives you that much more or if you need to make a considerable jump to really see improvement of note. I used your excellent review of the Auralic Altair G1.1 to make that purchase, and have been so pleased with what that addition has brought to my experience. Thank you for your time and consideration and what you bring to the audiophile community!

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you. That is much appreciated. I will certainly consider your suggestion 😊👍

[@WSS_the_OG]

You seem someone who would be great company over dinner, talking about such things in a fair manner. Oh tubes. Tubes. Valves. My best story about tubes is an old Ampeg guitar amp that would give me nasty shocks when I plugged my guitar in. We ended up using the Ampeg as a saxophone amplifier (using Sennheiser ribbon mics) instead; no shocks that way. It sounded glorious, of course, warm, punchy, dirty, in all the right ways, something the transistors couldn't quite achieve. I admit, I haven't watched your entire video as I type this, but I have such a love for tube-sound. It's bad, it's wrong, it can even be dangerous, but there is no denying that when done right, it is delicious. A bit like eating Fugu. It seems to me, from your words anyway, that Vincent got this unit right. Now I want hear one for myself! Edit and P.S. I missed your videos, brother. Glad you had a good vacay. So important. Crete is fantastic.

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you my friend. If you cook, I’ll bring the wine 🍷😉

[@stephencosta6814]

It’s a treat to see one of your videos when I see something newly published by you. I pull out the popcorn maker, some chocolate, and here we go love it.❤️👍🙏🏻 your voice in the description of sound characteristics are simply amazing P.s. I think you see the most benefit from tubes or valves when it is put in the pre-amplifier stage that’s what I have observed.

[@renatomorais8136]

Oh, so nice to see you reviewing this! I was very curious a couple of years ago them but couldn't find much about Vincent amps. Ended up getting an Advance Paris A12 instead because of a sale. It's a similar concept and I understand AP is much more available in the UK, I think you should take on those too ;) All the best!

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you 👍

[@ericmann1781]

I wanted to suggest the same thing, I have an Advance Paris A10 Classic, they pair beautifully with my Triangle Comete speakers. I would love for Advance Paris to be compared to this Vincent integrated.

[@xcvbxcvb2179]

Happy owner of the sv-237 mk. One thing that stands out for me with this integrerad amp is the PRAT. Natural rhythmic and lovely grip. Again and again I find myself unconsciously head bobbing. Unintrusive engagement. I agree with Tarun on the internal DAC. I never thought it would better my external DAC but it did. Synergie done right by Vincent, hat's off. One thing I hate with this kit, the eye piercing bleu LED. 😡

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

@@xcvbxcvb2179 thank you for sharing 😊

[@DSor1]

Thanks Tarun for an excellent review. I am curious to know more about your observations when pairing the SV237 with the Venus II. I just bought a Venus II 12th and it seems it may not have been the best of ideas? I've had an older version of the SV237 paired with XT8Fs, and a Hugo 2 for 5 years now, and thought I'd give it a go, even if no matter what I try to upgrade to seems to always fall short. There is something for me hard to describe (fluidity?) in the sound that keeps me going back to this setup, possibly because I am usually doing something else at the same time I am listening to music, and what remains with me is perhaps the emotional connection I make with the music rather than detail recognition. By the way, I learned the sound of the sv237 can improve vastly with a 120 Euro tube upgrade. In any case, any feedback on the Denafrips Venus II vs the SV237 would be welcome. Any DAC you'd pair with this amp? I thank you in advance for any time you can carve out for this.

[@johnbritton895]

Great review! I have the sv700 which is the big brother to this one. Three preamp tubes per channel and switchable full time class A. The sound can obviously be tailored a little by swapping out tubes of course. I must agree I was also surprised at the sound performance of the onboard DAC. I think it only does up to 44.1 but when compared to some expensive stand alone DAC,s I felt a bit short changed by the latter😳

[@edhuslik]

I learned the hard way buying any component based off specs is foolhardy. Especially since we can't even hear the improvements past a certain point anyway.

[@shanestephenson8423]

Interesting review, Tarun. It's good to see you back after your holidays.😎 I'm a solid state guy. I've been lucky enough just recently to have purchased a set of Vitus SM 101 monoblock amplifiers with the matching signature preamp. That for me is class A all the way, of course, with the option of selecting class A/B, and I'll never get sick of that class A presentation.

[@Victrola777]

I absolutely love my Vincent SV-700. It is supposed to provide 50 wpc class A. I have owned much more expensive amps, but I am very happy with this one for now. Maybe I will try a 237 for the bedroom system.

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you for sharing 😊

[@wolfmanjacksaid]

Thanks for the review! This may be a dumb question, why didn't they include XLR inputs (and ideally pre-outs) in this integrated amp given its price? Also the digital inputs appear to be "bare bones" coax/toslink.

[@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777]

You're back to your motherland Africa? We're glad to see you go back.

[@stu3232]

Thanks for the highly educational review again Tarun. I could see myself staring at this amp admirably through long listening sessions, but i'm just wondering if you think this would be would possibly be too smooth/warm for matching with a pair of S400 mk2's?

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you. The S400 Mk2 is not a particularly warm speaker. On paper, they should be a reasonable match 😊

[@lekmannen9990]

Great work as always from this channel! I have a ifi tube buffer in my solid state system between my dac and integrated amp and I like it alot. I dont know if it’s added reverb, delayed cross feed or what is making it sound so good but I can’t take it out of the signal path now 😂

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

That is great! Thank you 👍

[@johnvincent4048]

Vincent audio products are very nice. I have a Vincent PHO-700 phono preamplifier paired with a Rega Planer 3 and Ortofon Blue cartridge and it sounds fantastic.

[@hugobloemers4425]

Hi Tarun, I agree, you get an awful lot of quality parts for your bucks with this amplifier. I did not hear you mention that you can split the tube pre-amp from the solid state power-amp. (or did I miss it?) That is a lost opportunity. It would have been very interesting to hear the contribution of each component separately.

[@thedownunderverse]

Hi Tarun, to your point RE: B&W speakers - I suspect you're right, these high-end emphasised (aka: bright) speakers should pair very well. I'm currently trialling the SV-237's little baby sibling the SV-200 with my pair of B&W CM5s2's (these are B&W's last ever kevlar-coned bookshelf speaker, before they switched to "continuum"). Despite only 25w of amplifier power, the match really is incredible - the best I've ever heard on these speakers with any amplifier. I also agree that while the DAC chip itself isn't special, its voicing works very, very well with the rest of the unit and the net result is incredibly good - I tried external "better" DAC's but kept coming back to the internal DAC. I'm augmenting the setup with my pair of REL T5/i subs (2.2 setup) and the overall sound is fantastic. As you say, it can be listened to all day long with zero fatigue. That's saying a lot for B&W's! I'm seriously considering trialling the SV-237 before I pull the trigger on the SV-200. It's a much more sizeable and expensive amp, of course, but I have a feeling it'll be something special. Will update in due course. Cheers!

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Good to know. Thank you for sharing your experiences 👍

[@khallgrimsen]

I had the vincent and i found the best dac for this was the Ifi Neo idsd. Perfect match. It also has an burr brown and sound just got a little better in every way. I tried the gustard r26 with it and prefered the Ifi. Now i have Exposure 3010s2d. Love that, But here ifi is not the best match. R26 blows it away. Also did the denafrips Ares 2. System matching is everything people!

[@geoffreybritain8878]

Synergy, synergy, synergy! Clear insight into where one's musical priorities lie. Accepting that perfection can only be found in 'heaven'.

[@AjaySharma-tt6so]

Great Review Tarun I love how you put things into context with your comparisons.

[@pungvarlarsson6451]

A modern amp that looks good! Impressive build quality. Splendid review with a look also on construction and internals.

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you 👍

[@psysword]

Have had my SA-32 Vincent preamp running into my Burson Audio TK monoblocks powering kef ls50 Metas. Heavy bass from the kefs and at 11 o clock, the airy but tiny kefs sound like floor standers. Seperates are delivering but the Vincent is a gem. Got the Fosi v3 with 48v and at 3o clock getting some solid bass. The Vincent pushes good current into the Fosi.

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you for sharing your experiences 😊

[@jeffreythurston1822]

Really nice review as always. I wish an integrated like this that is trying to be all things to all people would include an HDMI arc input.

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you 😊

[@MrRourk]

Vincent builds a nice amp. Sounds really good with my refurbished Ditton 442's.

[@doc_mayhem9096]

Thanks a lot for your highly appreciated review! I just have to wait til it's available on Italian market!

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you. Much appreciated 👍

[@markstewart3501]

Great review. Love the picture with the guy in the hat! 👍

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you. That is John Lee Hooker 👍

[@kiudont]

Great Review as usual! I really would like that you try the Unison Research Unico 150, thati is another hybrid integrated amplifier. Once I've listened it coupled to Elac Vela 407, in comparison whit Luxman 507 UXII and Supernait, and to my ears it really standed out in term of "realism" of the event. And it was not "dark" at all, as you found the Vincent. Thanks anyway for your precious contribute to the Hi Fi community.

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you kindly 😊👍

[@johnlager584]

Interesting to see Vincent is keeping the same type of musicality as it’s tube A/B one box amplifier I had years ago, from memory I would agree with your conclusion for the previous one I had.

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you 👍

[@spooner1]

Thank you Tarun. Finally, for me, a much needed review of Vincent Audio. BTW is that my buddy John Lee in the background?

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you. Yes, it is 👍

[@jianboo]

Thanks for the review. I am all about warm sounding equipment and am a fan of Castle speakers. Please consider the amplifier pairing with the castle when you do review it and if this vincent fair well. Kudos to you. I'm always on a lookout for great reviews from your channel.

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Thank you. Much appreciated 😊👍

[@TheDjcarlos67]

Valves, everywhere!!! Pre, power, wherever you put them I’m there. My old tuner has valves. I love an amp with a personality and charm and I don’t mind sacrificing other aspects of the sound. I feel that many expensive amps are built to a price but Vincent didn’t scrimp on the components

[@scottbennett3119]

Very informative review. However, this amplifier has high-quality tone controls. Why didn't you mention this? It would seem the tone controls could have changed your sonic impressions of this amplifier. High-quality tone controls can do wonders and take the music to that special place. I know that from experience. Thank you for the review.

[@siriosstar4789]

well thanks to your excellent review i took the plunge yesterday and purchased this unit . wow, it's really heavy !! my final decision was based on your opening the top and showing and explaining the parts inside . i'm a reliability type of guy and when you explained that the parts were of good quality , i was swayed. i was short 200 euros , so the salesman let me buy it anyway. i also got the polk L 600s at a huge discount . Polk is not popular inGermany and switzerland so they sat unboxed in their storage for a long time . anyway i'm ranting . thanks again for the help .

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

That is great 👍 thank you for letting me know 😊

[@siriosstar4789]

the bliss of the vincent was short lived . i finally got it hooked up , put on pavarotti nessum dorma with the volume at about one third and the right speaker shutdown . i let the amp cool down and played some other tunes and then the left speaker shut down . then after another rest period the right speaker only played at half volume and for the grand finale the right speaker doubled or tripled in volume accompanied with a loud pop which almost fried my speakers . i returned the amp and am now trying the marantz model 30 . it is super clear with an excellent soundstage from side to side but with no depth . i loved the sound of the vincent but can't risk another episode like that ,so,,,,,,

[@Anand.Asrani]

Thanks Tarun for another pinpoint review of an amp i was always fascinated by

[@peterferrier5833]

Hi Tarin. You're looking well after your nice break. I have been waiting for a decent review of the Vincent for some time. And I kind of expected some of your comments. If and when it's possible, the jewel to the crown of the Vincent range has to be the pre power combination with the very attractive looking mono blocks. If you can get those for review, I think you will find there is a little more kick, but I don't work for them, so it would be great to see if I am right. Thanks again for a great review. I subscribe to many audio channels, because I am a nerd. You are the best.

[@techmed-rainer]

Danke! Excellent review, thank you very much for your great work, Tarun!

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Danke mein Freund 😊👍

[@markcarrington8565]

Hey Tarun, nice review, as always. Lots to love about this amp from the component perspective. Those MKPs are a ‘mare to run in but worth it in the end. Having been spoiled by the detail retrieval of my Elites, I can’t see this kind of amp making a shortlist for a replacement for my Musical Fidelity. Although, to be fair, I think my budget would need to be much more elastic. Tubes and class A may be very audiophile, but I don’t miss either in my system. Class A/B and transistors will do just fine for a while longer. 😊

[@Shozimus]

Great review. Vincent for some reason is quite underestimated, and the lack of good quality reviews dose not help. Would be great If You could do a SV-228 review some time, and compare it to 237mk2 :)

[@plasticpenguin1]

Umm...erm... trying to add a comment without annoying anyone. Okay, there are two types of audiophiles (I don't class myself as a true audiophile), ones who gravitate to typical SS amps and those who prefer a tube/Class A amp. There's no right and wrong. I fall into the former. Having heard a Graaf and Icon valve or tube amps, they really don't make me smile. Of course they have qualities a typical SS amp can't achieve: Big bass, smooth midrange and more realism with vocals, whereas a SS amp has tauter bass, better detail retrieval and a more open presentation. And they don't cost a fortune with upgrades -- valves only have a certain lifespan. The upside is during the winter you don't need central heating😂

[@Coneman3]

Arguably tube preamp stage and transistors for power is the best solution, using each tech for its strengths and creating a lovely synergy.

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

Yes, but difficult to get the marriage right in practice 😊

[@davefreeh2892]

Tarun, thanks for not just a review but a detailed explanation of this hybrid amp. I would be very interested in hearing your thoughts on another hydrid, the Heaven 11 Billie. It’s a small manufacturer in Montreal, Canada. I own the Billie MK 1.5. They currently make a MK 2. The Billie, to my ears, is a great integrated hybrid.

[@guulyian]

This is a very interesting looking amp! I'm wondering how this compares to what Advance Paris are doing with hybrid amps? Also, in terms of packing a lot of features in, I'm very very curious about the Advance Paris myconnect 150 as an all in one solution, also using a solid state/tube combo. Thanks for yet another great review Tarun.

[@abritishaudiophile7314]

@@guulyian thank you 😊