Too Woke for Church? | Sho Baraka

[@imanimalaika7734]

All I want is a church involved in evangelism and making disciples. Even the missionary baptists will give money for foreign missions but won't even have a prison ministry! I do not know of any churches in my city that is involved in evangelism within the community. We give out food baskets but leave the soul to be lost. I am not looking for perfection. I am looking for the basics.

[@josiahpulemau6214]

What state are you in ma’am?

[@belovedwomen]

Excellent interview! I totally agree with Sho Baraka, you're doing amazing work for the Lord Lisa.

[@Jude3Project]

Thanks for watching! I appreciate your kinds words and encouragement.

[@georgecoleman9141]

@@Jude3Project $ L0LE

[@mrduckett4006]

I love the Jude 3 Project!!! Such a gift to the culture.

[@Jude3Project]

Thanks for watching! We are glad you enjoyed it.

[@IntentionalityMentor]

"God does not want ceasefires but enemies to become family."

[@frederickweeksjr.1189]

That's not necessarily true.

[@cinev4847]

Bring Guilt and Shame to the conversation but with the end goal of Reconciliation. Amen!

[@buenosdiez3005]

As a super duper woke Israelite I completely condone this message. The growth will come full circle. Some are a bit too compulsory & judgemental when they encounter new info, but truthfully YHWH has already told us to be at peace. Be not hasty. This is about redemption and reconciliation to Him not condemnation of others. Let YAH distinguish between who is His and who is not. Excellent interview ✊👑

[@janetreece475]

I agree ,they are fighting hard to destroy us in many ways before The Most High returns. when he does return there is going to be fast talking and slow walking. there are opposites which means now is the time to turn evil to good.

[@joycelong8824]

Buenos Diez thank you brother

[@tracyreadytv]

This video has been a COMPLETE BLESSING to my soul. Im so glad I've stumbled across Jude 3... Just as Sho was saying, this is EXACTLY what I've been praying for.... for years now. Thank you.

[@alight222]

My belief is that the church as we once knew is transforming The exit is an entrance to something far more truthful and liberating. My understanding of scripture NOW has put life in a better perspective of who the Most high is and my relationship with him. Yet I do give credit to the Church. The path is clearer

[@kadmielvalcin]

Lisa, i heard a reference about you & Jude 3 project just 3 days ago. It was from a couple of Frequency Conference videos, each feat. Dr. Eric Mason, Bro. Berean, & Dr. Jerome. I was really blessed by this discussion between you and Amisho. Keep up the great kingdom work. The body of Christ needs this. It is the work of every believer to sharpen one another's swords, to effectively cut through the lies. I need aids like this to minister well in my context. I am overwhelmed by this. Thank you. Glory to God! Hallelujah!

[@MrTimSwain]

Sho Baraka is the truth. If you don't know him YOU NEED to check out his work, especially his music!

[@somecalvinist6875]

I’m a Dominican American who some would call black, and I for the life of me can not figure out how race can still be important when we are called to be one race under Christ. I feel like it comes up too much and so many put so much into it.

[@frederickweeksjr.1189]

What needs to be understood is the way some ethnic groups have taught Christianity. 2nd, race( to an extent) is important but MORE IMPORTANTLY is the RESPONSIBILITY we ( of all ethnic groups)have once we receive the truth of gospel. We all must truly study God's Word to get the truth. "RACE" is only a section of discussion.

[@josiahpulemau6214]

I agree though you can make an argument that there are 2 races that exist: those in Adam, and those in Christ. That’s it

[@somecalvinist6875]

@@josiahpulemau6214 Amen, abuse of anything is not an argument against those whom are in compliance with the teachings of their worldview. Moses was married to a woman of color and Miriam was cursed for her prejudice. I don’t care what the unorthodox have used Christianity for. That isn’t on Christ, it’s on the sinful ideologies of man.. again.

[@kendrallove7562]

Oh my goodness...the church hopping description was hilarious, "oh, these folks are racist." I know this so well...

[@ladiiswaggerent.1982]

Church people are regular people and the only thing that sets us apart (that should) from any other sinner is that we are saved by grace. Our righteousness is not a self-righteousness, but one achieved by the perfection of Christ. Thus... we can still get on people's nerves no matter how much we love God. ---Reality is we must learn (as it was said) self-control and conflict resolution in order to function within the church. That being said, the purest example we have of the church is the church in Acts right after the day of pentecost. The picture painted there was folk being selfless for the Love of God and the Love of other people (as we were commanded). You skip on through to the epistles and you see folk started actin a fool. Paul had to send letters to tell folk to stop braggin about how much more advanced they were than everybody else cuz they could speak in tongues. That thing is still happening today. To say that one has to gain equity in the church before they could go to the WORD of God and ask that the WORD be heard over tradition... well... frankly, it is incorrect, inconsistent with the ways of God and simply wrong. How did Paul address that issue? He said ***I Speak in tongues more than any of you... shoot... why don't you aspire to prophesy or sumthin'... do somethin that edifies the church and not just yourselves...*** ^^^a lovely paraphrase^^^ I think we need to go to God and go to the Word on how to handle some of these things because the reality is... When people OUTSIDE the church come with criticisms of the church... YES, they come with the intent to criticize, open a wound and let it fester... and often those people are inaccurate... those are the people that come saying you don't need to tithe cuz it was for the levites and you don't need church cuz church wasn't a building in the bible. BUT.... When folks FROM the church come with criticisms or corrections, more often than not it is a plea that someone will HEAR them instead of dismissing them and to suggest that they don't have enough equity (whatever that is) to bring forth the Word of God that they have studied and rightly divided... that's no good. It goes against all that we know in The Word... Tradition is not a sin, but it is not God. Sometimes the voices of tradition can be MUCH louder than the voice of the Holy Spirit and when we allow the tradition of don't-speak-unless-spoken-to (or don't-speak-unless-you're-agreeing) to rule our hearts, we surely cannot say that we have not hardened our hearts to the voice of the Holy Spirit.

[@saul2paulproject]

One thing that is concerning to me in church (black, white, whatever) is the gatekeeping and over-emphasis on leadership. Too many times the congregation is boxed out of conversations and having a voice. Equity was mentioned, and spiritual immaturity and arrogance can definitely inhibit someone’s ability to contribute wisely. However, there are many strong, mature, committed believers who don’t hold leadership roles, whose voices are kept at bay because they are not “leaders”. A nasty little secret in many black church’s is that the power structure is controlling and oppressive. A woke response is a natural and appropriate response to this kind of unbiblical leadership. That doesn’t mean “woke” folks are always right, but the questions are valid, and the answers cannot always come from those who hold power. The black church should never frame the “woke movement” as something negative. The woke movement is a legitimate movement of people who are questioning many toxic religious mainstays in the black church that have become acceptable in our modern times. Instead of ridiculing these people, see them as equals (yes they have a voice, they have equity)- engage them with respect and compassion, because unfortunately, many of the criticisms are quite valid.

[@imanimalaika7734]

A church with members that say they are racist are not theologically robust, either.

[@marcusmyles6667]

The conference Sho Baraka mentioned does it still go on and if so when...I would love to attend. Can you give some names to some books?

[@priscillaquiah1837]

Lisa, I am that person, not being regular at church now - listen here mostly

[@michaelangelo9119]

Interesting conversation. And I'm sure you know but Augustine may have been dark skinned his mother italian his father African. The Noth African Athenasius nickname was 'the dark dwarf'. The church was not so interested in skin color back in the day then.

[@goyensjonathandjalmoztfr33]

barak always pauses so she paused before saying baraka lol yall are awesome. lol

[@jasonleonbastrom]

Great video, very educational and heartfelt. That concept of having equity in church ⛪ movement. It is important for those who have only been a believer for a year to understand that "equity" concept. For them to contemplate those of us who have been in relationship with The LORD יהוה for decades; and not of our own works. By grace, through faith. But there is alot that can be learned over those years that someone who has just been born (born-again) to consider. Respect and conflict resolution. With God, אלהים, no time is wasted. Sho Baraka, you are an amazing artist. Thought leader for faith based hip-hop. Lives true to his name, he is a blessing. I recommend his song 🎵 NICODEMUS 🎶 הללויה Hallelujah !

[@JaymeChris]

Say something, Lisa! All the parts are necessary! Yes!

[@carmenmeyers3912]

Shooooo! This is why I love you!

[@Cee_Nelly]

This was a great interview... gave me a lot to think on.

[@dankxng]

Yo, at 4:36, Lisa says white evangelicals are racist and then backtracks because she's painting with too broad of a stroke... but like, as a white dude raised in a white evangelical setting I sorta gotta say... you right doe... you right... It took an urban transcultural church in Atlanta opening my eyes to the truth before I ever even fully understood the gospel!

[@imanimalaika7734]

She said that this is the experience that some people have. I know I did. People would turn their back to me in Bible study and they would refuse to shake my hand. If the pastor preaches thru the entire Bible, I don't see how they can miss these issues.

[@dankxng]

@@imanimalaika7734 Yeah, you're agreeing with me... I was saying no need to backtrack... As a white man, I never heard the full gospel until I had Black pastors.

[@imanimalaika7734]

No, I am not agreeing with you at all. You took Lisa's comments out of context. Do not miss my point. Some people experience racism in predominantly white churches. I know I do!

[@dankxng]

@@imanimalaika7734 I agree with Lisa... Again, my comment says she was right and didn't need to backtrack... I don't understand why you think I'm arguing with you. I believe white evangelicalism is a cult... My original comment agreed with all Lisa is saying... All I was saying was she didn't need to backtrack because she waa spot on ❤

[@imanimalaika7734]

Lisa did not say that white evangelicals are racist. She said that is the experience some people have. This is where I disagree with you, in your not accurately hearing what she said.

[@michaelangelo9119]

God deserved your worship!!! It's equitable and just to worship him. Go!! to!! church!! (and read your Bible)

[@whoismrgp]

This is great substance!!!!

[@kevinhill24]

I believe the brother mistaken because blackness or black conscious and spirituality do go hand and hand. To be conscience is to be aware of both the presence and the power. Physically and cosmically or spiritually.

[@KelzBernard]

Kevin Hill Yes, I agree with you, but it depends upon what you mean by spirituality. As followers of Christ, our spiritual allegiance is to Jesus Christ alone. A lot of the conscience community is hostile toward Christ, indulge in ancestor worship, etc. That’s not to sound pompous or bigoted, but it’s something the scriptures warns us about.

[@daltonholloway8506]

@29.53 Platter. The word you were looking for was platter. You're welcome!

[@kevinalston5492]

THIS CONVERSATION IS FOCUSED ON RACE IN THE CHURCH

[@rogergambrell7492]

I need to look up every name that he mentioned.

[@guywilson7518]

Septuagint - What is It? Septuagint (sometimes abbreviated LXX) is the name given to the Greek translation of the Jewish Scriptures. The Septuagint has its origin in Alexandria, Egypt and was translated between 300-200 BC. Widely used among Hellenistic Jews, this Greek translation was produced because many Jews spread throughout the empire were beginning to lose their Hebrew language. The process of translating the Hebrew to Greek also gave many non-Jews a glimpse into Judaism. According to an ancient document called the Letter of Aristeas, it is believed that 70 to 72 Jewish scholars were commissioned during the reign of Ptolemy Philadelphus to carry out the task of translation. The term “Septuagint” means seventy in Latin, and the text is so named to the credit of these 70 scholars. Septuagint - Influence on Christianity The Septuagint was also a source of the Old Testament for early Christians during the first few centuries AD. Many early Christians spoke and read Greek, thus they relied on the Septuagint translation for most of their understanding of the Old Testament. The New Testament writers also relied heavily on the Septuagint, as a majority of Old Testament quotes cited in the New Testament are quoted directly from the Septuagint (others are quoted from the Hebrew texts). Greek church fathers are also known to have quoted from the Septuagint. Even today, the Eastern Orthodox Church relies on the Septuagint for its Old Testament teachings. Some modern Bible translations also use the Septuagint along side Hebrew manuscripts as their source text. Septuagint - What Does It Contain? The Septuagint contains the standard 39 books of the Old Testament canon, as well as certain apocryphal books. The term "Apocrypha" was coined by the fifth-century biblical scholar, Jerome, and generally refers to the set of ancient Jewish writings written during the period between the last book in the Jewish scriptures, Malachi, and the arrival of Jesus Christ. The apocryphal books include Judith, Tobit, Baruch, Sirach (or Ecclesiasticus), the Wisdom of Solomon, First and Second Maccabees, the two Books of Esdras, additions to the Book of Esther, additions to the Book of Daniel, and the Prayer of Manasseh. The Apocryphal books were included in the Septuagint for historical and religious purposes, but are not recognized by Protestant Christians or Orthodox Jews as canonical (inspired by God). Most reformed teachers will point out that the New Testament writers never quoted from the Apocryphal books, and that the Apocrypha was never considered part of the canonical Jewish scripture. However, the Roman Catholic Church and the Orthodox churches include the Apocrypha in their Bible (except for the books of Esdras and the Prayer of Manasseh). Read Part 2 Now!

[@RedRiverMan]

Good synopsis, thanks! However as a Black Catholic I can tell you we do include the prayer of Manassas in the OT. The ancient and apostolic Christian churches-Western Catholic and Orthodox and the Churhc of the East all kept the original scriptures. Peace

[@stevenspicer]

Just so y'all know...the JUDE 3 Project is my current Church!!! Hahahah

[@Jude3Project]

lol

[@spiritualindiancherokeejon6439]

I like you Mr. Sho Baraka

[@callitlikeitis7136]

Hypocrisy in its HIGHEST FORM OF INTELLIGENT!

[@leslieasaiah-asher]

This is episode is loaded

[@callitlikeitis7136]

What are y'all talking about?

[@athaleyahbaht-yisrael3706]

I left church last year after learning we are the children of the Most High and the Bible is ours, not a white man's book. We should be keeping the Law and be a light to the world. The world is dark because most of true Israel is still asleep.

[@hairrepublicinternationalv7444]

A J I know the feeling.The birth, cross, death & resurrection is Allllll they teach

[@fredmiller2101]

Then you two miss what "church going" is all about. It is fascinating how black people in American claim to be lost Israel. Unfortunately, American black people are not Israel, and our Gentiles. Outside of blood relations, true Israel is those who claim Christ as their savior. Please read Hebrews 3:13; 10:24-25, all of Ephesians. If you claim Christianity my brothers, please consider this.

[@honeyboy3rd]

Thankyou... for the Jude 3 project & thankyou shobread(Milwaukee,wi) Very encouraging, Very informative, & through the lens of scripture... InHisName

[@athaleyahbaht-yisrael3706]

Fred Miller With all due respect, Christianity is a cult and you have no biblical knowledge outside of what you've been programmed to believe. YAHUAH will never reveal the secrets of His Word if you continue to worship false idols like Cesare Borgia and take part in Sun-day worship. Psa. 111:10

[@fredmiller2101]

Athaleyah Baht-Yisrael I can appreciate your response in being classy and not a troll like a lot do on KZbin. However, I find your response pretty general "Christianity a cult" how? I think I'm pretty knowledgeable in Christian history, if your statement was directed at Christianity borrowing from some other religions, it be interesting to know what? Worshipping on Sunday has it's foundation since the early Church in Acts. Furthermore, any day is a day of worship. "The Law" speaks of that through all the feasts and festivals God had ordained after the Exodus.

[@WillisJenkins-x4s]

I question the intelligence of anyone who believe everything in the Bible is true or supposed to be true:DR. JOHN HENRIK CLARKE.

[@GOP7100]

We've all been deceived, it's all hypocrisy. We are the church not the buildings! God is not happy with the Christians that are called by HIS name. Nothing in our churches is anointed or biblical. It's a show. God wants your heart. We need to wake up and understand who we are in the bible then began to study your history book. The bible.

[@garymahone1583]

What is more self righteous Christian ?

[@johncapo2843]

if your pastor / preacher is reach you are in the wrong church

[@johncapo2843]

GOD IS NOT IN THE CHURCH JESUS - NOT devil - yesssssssssssss

[@WillisJenkins-x4s]

Over 45,000 different types of Christian church denominations and all of them are at odds with each other,a whole bunch confusion and division religious lies and nonsense. Truth don't cause such confusion and division, LIES DO.

[@crewsforchrist762]

Black Church? hmm, you lost me, what is the black church? or the White church?

[@lazsaiyah]

Unfortunately, despite integration, Sunday has been said to be one of the most segregated days of the week; meaning churches are still for the most part segregated by choice. So, by "black church" they mean churches with majority black members.

[@tmaantroy]

You said you want to do Apologetics for black folks... Why wouldn't you extend your ministry to everyone regardless of race?

[@18LUmo]

TmanTroy there's nothing wrong with seeing a specific need and catering to it. He may end up spreading it. Who knows. He most likely sees a specific need or where they may be a lack in Apologetic teaching in the black community that he merely wants to put his foot into.

[@tmaantroy]

Moses Boyd saying "my ministry is for blacks" is the definition of racism.

[@18LUmo]

TmanTroy how? If he has a message in his heart that caters to that specific community, what's the issue? He is literally catering to black people. He doesn't slander anyone either. Help me understand.

[@tmaantroy]

Moses Boyd this is not about him but Lisa...she made the comment. It should be obvious my man. When you draw lines based on race, making race a priority, separating because of color....that is racism. What if white folk have truth that all can benefit all but choose to keep it with white only....the first thing out a black mouth is racism...so how do we get a pass but they don't?

[@18LUmo]

TmanTroy because the truth that we all know is most likely orchestrated and structured for the black ear. "Jesus died on the cross" is a universal biblical truth that we all know however, how it's presented is key. The reason why certain truths need to be adjusted is because of culture, language, and even opposing views in said particular community. Black people usually cryout because being left out is the standard in general. You'll hear from any outlet that black folk are the cause of most problems, murders, thefts, etc. When it's not entirely the case. We will most likely hear commentary on how we need to do or form certain movements that will effect change in our black community but when something like this comes along, it's an issue. Being left out, isn't racism nor does it imply ill will. Trust me, it's all love. It's just she most likely has a plan or ministry that has been geared and crafted for the black community hitting on particular black issues.