WNBA Champions vs High School Boys!

[@McIrish_Lad]

I just love that her best response was to tweet "Dumbass" like she really thought she did something with that🤣

[@juliusstriker4465]

woman moment

[@HookemFishing]

When you know he's right have no intelligent response... dumbass is easy to say. What she should have said was that she acknowledges this to be true. Any game would be for fun and to raise money for the boys schools. I'll pay to watch this game.

[@TornadoOfSouls777]

LMAO " if LeBron played in the WNBA, he'd score 840 pts a game" -Dave Chappelle 🤣

[@steelcastle5616]

Not really. I bet the athletic bra would throw his shot off. So would the fake nails, eyelashes, and thong underwear.

[@MrKev1664]

yes the refs could arrange it

[@olyviermonteau4300]

@@steelcastle5616 true kekw, so half that.

[@bobjeff1243]

@@steelcastle5616 bron would just dunk lmao

[@chillhour6155]

That's not a joke.. because it's true

[@justinreilly1]

I want to see WNBA all-stars v middle school boys all-stars.

[@kramer1372]

truly…HS would be a blowout…middle school might be interesting…

[@JayLew91]

I think it needs to happen. It will either validate them and increase viewership. Or it will humble some of them enough to make changes to the league to increase excitement.

[@LamelKendrick]

its a no win situation for womens basketball

[@if.i.dusse_somyself7683]

They will lose as expected and nothing will change

[@nbagoats4819]

After someething like that happen what can you do at that point to increase excitement? Put trampolines on the court?

[@tohrazul]

@@nbagoats4819 No. You make the court smaller to increase the pace at which the ladies can get up and down the court, you lower the hoop to make the dunk a viable scoring option for a majority of WNBA players, and you make the free throw and three-point lines closer to maintain proportions on the smaller court. These changes will lead to an increase in the pace of play, an increase in exciting plays, and an increase in overall scoring.

[@ConspiracyNutsMakeMeLOL]

I think lowering the rim to 9' or 9'6" would add excitement. The women already use a tiny basketball to account for hand size/strength

[@clapdrix72]

There's no doubt. In HS 4 of my teammates and I played the Stanford women's bball team in pick up and absolutely smoked them. They had Nicole Powell who was the #3 pick in the 2004 WNBA draft. I mean no disrespect but it was like playing 8th-9th grade boys. We were even using a women's ball so we shot everything long. The difference in strength and athleticism makes it unfair. We actually left early cuz it wasn't really fun, especially with the girls ball. Tbh, they were kind of being dicks too, like they were too good for us cuz they were D1 players - really unfriendly, almost hostile... so we didn't hold back at all. Two of my teammates played D2 but were well under 6' and I was 3rd best as an above avg 6'2" HS player. By no means were any of us blue chips - our team was ranked somewhere in the 30s or 40s in CA I think.

[@njdrive5165]

🧢

[@jakemccoy]

It's not fun playing with girls at all.

[@clapdrix72]

@@njdrive5165Nope, it's absolutely, definitely true. My coach from Stanford bball summer camp I kept in touch with was a development coach for the girls, or something like that, and he invited me and I brought my PG, Ryan Cooper, and PG from my old HS, Alan Iida, who both played D2 at Notre Dame de Namur in 2006-2008 or so. We got there a little late, played like 2 games and bounced to a pickup game at Piedmont, our HS.

[@w.davidholland7228]

8l9k

[@w.davidholland7228]

8k

[@TruthHurts0027]

This needs to happen so that the point can be made that men and women are NOT the same.

[@calvinmiguel4405]

Who is making the argument that they are?

[@jordxnb1750]

@@calvinmiguel4405the women themselves? Lol

[@skoop651]

but, people want men to play on the womens team now

[@skoop651]

it's crazy how people act like sports are segregated because of personality or something

[@JasonPattersonTruMuseMedia]

So the f what... The arguments in this video are lame.

[@wavion2]

I usually roll my eyes whenever someone says a game is rigged. But if there were ever a game that had the potential to be rigged, it would be this one. The amount of money the books could win by having the boys throw the game would be astronomical.

[@atomicwedgie8176]

ALL professional sports are rigged.

[@contumelious-8440]

@@atomicwedgie8176said: " ALL professional sports are rigged." Could you show us your evidence, please?

[@michaelmadson2817]

​@@contumelious-8440 actually the reason the Olympics didn't allow professional players is because they can and are rigged and the WWF admitted that their matches are rigged because they got tired of dealing with the athletic commission's

[@Comments1-vc8jg]

@@contumelious-8440 Sounds like atomicwedgie8176 has a gambling problem! LOL

[@contumelious-8440]

@@michaelmadson2817 Oh, did you take on the role of showing the evidence? Otherwise...we don't need to talk do we?

[@DerkuiDerkui]

If it ever happens, the WNBA team should start with a 50 point lead to make things interesting.

[@drinkxyz]

I would still bet the farm on the boys.

[@Cactusboxes]

Nah that would be lame cause of if the girls win then it means nothing

[@taharqa332]

NO…They want EQUALITY RIGHT? Start the game fair and square…0-0!!!

[@DuckPlaysDrums]

​@@taharqa332And then it's unfair because the boys are too athletic.

[@blackhenry6256]

😅😅😅

[@IQFSanAntonio]

My son was invited to practice with the local WNBA team because his high school teammate's dad was the head coach. My son said he and his friend were told not to steal the ball, block shots, or play too aggressively. (I understand the prohibition to not play aggressively, because the women could get hurt.) He said he was surprised at how smart the women played. They played better team basketball than most high school boy's teams. He was also surprised at how physical they were (e.g., setting screens, fighting through screens, holding their ground, etc.) and how well they could shoot. That being said, he did say he could pretty much drive at will, and none of the women could get around him. He also said he could have blocked plenty of shots if he tried, as the women don't really shoot jump shots. My son was just an All-district player--not All-state. His team won District, not Area, Region, or State. If my son could compete with the WNBA team (WITH RESTRICTIONS), there is no doubt in my mind that a state championship boy's team would entirely obliterate a WNBA team--I don't care if that boy's team were from Idaho or South Dakota, much less California, New York, or Texas.

[@donmiller2908]

Not to diminish what you wrote but the whole topic is a waste of time. It's obvious that women can't compete against men in sports that require strength and speed. Chelsea Gray called Clay Travis a dumbass as an attempt at damage control.

[@tanjajohnson4659]

Have you ever watched a WNBA game ? ? ?

[@ocd000]

@@tanjajohnson4659 I have, the WNBA champions, Storm. It's definitely slower than my HS varsity team and maybe about like our JV team speed. It's been a while so might be off on that but in 9th grade we were all about blocking shots, rebounding hard, dunking girls' balls and could alley oop dunk men's, which is another thing not being mentioned here. Would the men vs women use men's ball or women's? If men's, that's another disadvantage for the women.

[@tanjajohnson4659]

@@ocd000 I took my daughter to a WMBA game, and it looked like a bunch of little kids out there. There were 26 TWENTY SIX missed layups BREAKAWAY LAYUPS ! ! ! On the way home, she told me that she never wanted to go to a WNBA game again, she still loves NBA games and we go to them regularly. But it was embarrassing to watch them. I believe my firm's over 40 team could beat any WNBA team.

[@yetmoregaming3441]

The explosiveness of a good high school basketball player would be the only real important factor. I'm 6'2" and 215, not exactly prime DRose getting to the basket, but even I could blow by anybody in the WNBA. The WNBA girls look like they're running through quicksand. An actual good athlete would make them look like statues.

[@J0hnRatcliffe]

I'd honestly go as far to say a wnba team would lose to an elite 8th grade AAU boys team

[@MikeM-np4od]

When I was in 8th grade we had a kid who was already 6'4" on the squad so might be right.

[@blakelarsen3743]

No doubt they could

[@guiwhiz]

Nope. Wouldn't be a height or weight advantage and with quite a few of the boys just barely into puberty their muscle-mass strength per pound wouldn't be developed yet. Could a truly elite 13u AAU team give a WNBA team a competitive game? Yeah probably. Win say 3 out of 5... probably not. You forget a typical WNBA Center is 6'4+ and over 200lbs. Not a lot of 8th graders who are remotely athletic can match up with that. Two years later... yeah my son's 16u AAU Elite team would almost certainly beat a WNBA team 4 out of 5.

[@begcoins]

Possibly. My 8th grade 6'1 guard/forward son has been playing competitive men's pick up games against the best in my city for the past year. Add a team of players with his skill/abilities then yeah they can win.

[@Ghosthead83]

I wouldn't go that far.

[@MikeyParks]

In 1992, Jimmy Connors soundly beat Martina Navratilova in straight sets in a "Battle of Champions" - despite giving up the two doubles lanes and his second serve. This is a match you don't hear about. You only hear about the close match between Billy Jean King and 55-year-old Bobby Riggs. Funny about a piece of history disappearing down the rabbit hole.

[@DavorZdralo]

There was also the guy who played against Williams sisters, he played one set against each, and he was like rank 700 on ATP list, literally smoking cigarettes before the match. He smashed them both.

[@ta192utube]

Riggs was, by that time, reduced to hustling to make money at tennis. I think he was expecting a re-match, and maybe, a series of matches, so, he threw the game. Too bad for him, nothing else came of it...

[@joeclayton2121]

@@ta192utube because he would have smoked her the 2nd time around

[@naysayer1238]

Correct, but it was not the entire doubles lanes.

[@blackrock1961]

There was an unsubstantiated rumor that Riggs threw the match to pay off a gambling debt.

[@spacebum]

Just so you know, that wasn’t Wrexham’s professional team. It was a mix of retired and current players and it was first to 12. If it had gone 90 minutes it would have been far worse.

[@pugsnhogz]

lol "first to" 12

[@heldinahtmlhell]

And Wrexham are a lower league team, and always have been.

[@chillhour6155]

Go Wrexham!

[@jdotoz]

I don't think it was the actual USWNT either.

[@napoearth]

That Bobby Riggs match was about as real as a pro wrestling match. He absolutely threw that match. Even at 55, he would have beat her if he really tried.

[@brian9670]

Truth, everyone knows the match was fixed. He was broke af and wanted the cash

[@scotttill3847]

He was drunk, smoked a lot of cigs, and was 55 years old at the time. And yeah, he bet against himself.

[@wanderingwade8877]

Riggs even played the 'heel' by saying as many outrageous and annoying things as possible. Pure WWE.

[@Michele-uj4kr]

Imagine what McEnroe would have done at 55 to Serena. He would mopped the court with her

[@kenrickeason]

​@@brian9670I knew it!!! This is what probably happened.. They came to Bobby with millions in a suitcase and he was like *"Okay"*

[@swdierks]

What size ball would they use? I don't see changing balls each possession as practical, unless they play a half court game.

[@frocat5163]

I went to a very small high school (roughly 400 students in grades 9 - 12) that has won a total of two state championships in about 60 years of existence; one in football and one in softball. ONE basketball team has made it to the semi-state round of the playoffs: the boys' team sometime in the 1960s. One girl (a year ahead of me) on the basketball team earned a scholarship to play for a D1 school (where she won a national title), was a top 5 pick in the WNBA draft and played 13 seasons (winning two championships), and won a gold medal at the 2004 Olympics as part of Team USA. She was a two time All American, Big East Player of the Year once, Big East Defensive Player of the Year three times, _Sports Illustrated_ Player of the Year once, and WNBA Finals MVP once. Her senior year of high school, I personally witnessed her losing 1-on-1 to a sophomore on the boy's team who was nearly 7 inches shorter than her and who ended up being a backup on a D3 college basketball team for a school with roughly 2200 students...and it wasn't even close. So, yeah...there's no chance a WNBA championship team could beat a top-tier high school boys' state championship team. I'd be surprised if the WNBA championship team could beat pretty much _ANY_ high school boys state championship team.

[@nateowl2002]

I think they are talking about ruth riley

[@mikzzu9502]

I agree. My school were basketball 2022-23 season state champs, winning by about a 20 point margin in the finals game, so I feel pretty confident they could beat a WNBA team.

[@notmyname3883]

She probably thinks she's something special, too. In a year or two, we'll see her, crushed ego, getting arrested for DUI after a box of wine, and an attempted drive home to her cats. Do you know ANY happily married WNBA alums? I mean "marriage" in the traditional, American, sense.

[@AfricanThinker86]

One-on-one isn't the same as five-on-five . In one-on-one competition, physical sex differences are much more significant. It's not a given that a male HS team would beat a WNBA team. Skill and IQ differences would heavily favor the WNBA team.

[@tjhookit]

@@AfricanThinker86 The high school team of boys would be much stronger, bigger, much faster, have quicker reaction times, jump higher, and top teams have just as much IQ and skill.....if not more. Top high school boys teams are no joke.....and would smoke any WNBA team, easily.

[@AroldoSilva-t6u]

What about the Brazilian women's national football team? At the time (2021), they had the best player in the world, Marta, and they played against Grêmio's U16 men's team-and lost 6-0.

[@ScholarVisual]

When I was in 8th grade we scrimmaged against University of Illinois women's basketball team. We werent even the best in our division, and we beat them by 25 points.

[@vicyclopsrho8450]

Similar story, when I was in high school I played my freshman year. We scrimmaged against eventual national champions Tennessee, with Candace Parker, Alexis Hornbuckle and the rest. This was the freshman team, not varsity, not junior varsity. It was the easiest game I've ever been a part of. We smoked them handily.

[@jimmyr3044]

We've all got stories like this. I went to UCONN and we played against their champs often. Breanna Stewart is the closest to 'playing like a man' of anyone. She was still not that good. We all could play above or near the rim. None of them can. @@vicyclopsrho8450

[@Cactusboxes]

Yea and my team scrimmaged LSU & angel reese in 6th grade and won by 11 it was no sweat tbh🥱

[@JohnathanMangum-om4kk]

Hahahahaha!!! Good shit!! Lol

[@lutherodaniels3799]

Man 😂😂😂😂😂y’all killing me with these stories 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Jeff-df9ct]

I'm 6'3 and only played basketball my freshman year of high school (mostly played volleyball and I rode the bench for basketball lol) so I'm not much of a hooper but I am athletic. Freshman year of college during a pick-up game I ended up playing against a girl that was a former mcdonalds all-american and current D1 player at the time (her teammate who was also D1 was on her pick-up team as well), and although she was very good, my natural athleticism was more than enough to physically dominate her on the court. Now when I look at a team full of actual D1/NBA prospects , there's no way I see them losing to any womens team ever

[@qdot12353]

This game would get out of hand within the 1st 3 minutes of the game. There is a reason why men and women have separate leagues.

[@rvalens2]

To make this game even more interesting, why not play a WNBA "All-Star" team against a state high school champion team? That way, the WNBA could include the "best of the best" from their league. Now that would be a game I would gladly pay to see! 👀

[@MrG__2]

My wife just said this lol. I’d still bet on the boys team…

[@rvalens2]

@@MrG__2 I would too - especially since Clay Travis would get to pick the high school state champion the WNBA would have to play against.

[@urwholefamilydied]

State championship team?... LOL. ANY highschool from a decent sized city would destroy a WNBA all-star team. We used to play with a future WNBA player when she still played ball at Michigan State (she was drafted like a year later). This was our church team. And she was around our level of play. But again, our church team... our best player BARELY made our Highschool team and rode the bench most of the season.

[@SaltyChip]

That would be worse for the women. It would be better for a squad that has played together and have their team game on lock because having a bunch of individual all stars won’t mesh right away and def aren’t going to over power the boys.

[@urwholefamilydied]

@@SaltyChip uhhhh no. A team of Lebron, Durant, Curry, Jokic, etc etc will stomp on any starting 5 NBA team. what you smoking?

[@Pingu-]

Its not even just athleticism, boys are far more skilled too😂

[@guiwhiz]

Well that isn't true. I've played against NCAA female players when I was a college player. They have very high level skills. That isn't in question. The athleticism just wipes away that skill level at the extremes. It doesn't matter if you are a great ball handler if the guy guarding you is a decent on ball defender but is WAY faster than you. He's just going to take it from you. It doesn't matter if you have good footwork and can block out well. If the guy opposing you is 8 inches taller, has 20 inches of vertical jump on you, and is both stronger and quicker off the ground. He is going to out rebound your ass.

[@markoliver314]

@@guiwhiz It is true, boys are far more skilled than girls at basketball....

[@yesitis1395]

Confession time: My 8th grade boys basketball team lost a scrimmage game to the... varsity girls team. We were far too enamored with their boobs to really compete. We just wanted them to post us up and try backing us down into the paint. Our biggest concerns was who we would get to guard. For some reason we thought that we had a chance for a date afterwards. We went like 5-15 on the season and they were in the state final four.

[@jotk9440]

Was waiting for someone to write something like this.

[@blurckbud]

Through this confession you set more of us free to be sincere about our priorities during a male/female game😂

[@goldencoast8896]

Lmaoo

[@ВладимирКруглов-к9о]

"we thought that we had a chance for a date afterwards" - what?! No date?! Those girls were so mean-spirited it's astounding!

[@sphong0610]

Getting low to rub it in the right spot.

[@gigsims980]

A good friend of mine (we both played basketball many years) once told me a story of a WNBA team wanted to play a pickup game against men. The men were of HS and JC experience and couldn’t be taller than 6’. The coach of the team asked the men to “stop blocking shots” when the score got to 45-0.

[@jamesoncurry5224]

Destroyed.

[@TrevJ91]

Literally never happened I guarantee that is made up 😂

[@guiwhiz]

@@TrevJ91 Yeah the 'HS and JC' experience but couldn't be taller than 6' gave it away. What you found all the smallest PG you could find?

[@Max.Hartmann]

in 2017, the US international women’s soccer world cup winning team did lose a scrimmage match against Dallas FC U-15 boys soccer team by 2-5, Wrexham a 4th league men’s soccer team from the U.K. won against a U.S. women’s soccer team 12-0 this year.

[@SelectaMedia]

he mentioned that in the video

[@Max.Hartmann]

@@SelectaMedia yea and being isn't even that important in soccer.

[@iandthopper]

I played a 5 on 5 pickup game during college and guarded a 6’6” German woman. I’m 6,1”. I out boarded a her and held her to one bucket. She got very upset. My bball experience was as a bench warmer on a second tier 8th grade team. I found out later she played D1 and was on the German national team.

[@orlandowilliamson691]

😂😂 yea it's a big difference in what we can do compared to wat they can do.

[@caliguy44]

That's how wnba should be every year. Winning team of the season vs High schooler state champ in ppv. Since no one watches wnba. That would help.

[@Peakfreud]

😂😂😂 I would definitely watch that

[@marknificent0117]

I think the biggest problem for the women in a game like this would be, even if the boys ended destroying the WNBA team, while that particular game would generate tons of money, in the long run it would completely destroy the WNBA as a whole. The viewership for them would probably decrease by half if not more and that's something they simply cannot afford in order to sustain itself.

[@massojupiter3436]

I doubt it as there is a female soccer team that went against a team of high school boys and lost and I believe that team was the US soccer team which is still somewhat popular to this day

[@azul93gt38]

The WNBA is already subsidized to the hilt, and that's not going to stop. The bad loss would however hurt the media's attempt to sell their "equal outcomes" agenda.

[@paullentz1972]

Dude, The WNBA has lost, on average, at least $10 mil a year...in each of the 25 years it's been in existence. Poker reruns from The 2003 WSOP Main Event...routinely gets higher ratings than any live WNBA game. I seriously doubt that getting trounced by a high school boys state championship team..would sink their ratings even lower. If anything...perhaps it would spur The WNBA to make two changes that needs to occur to get men (because women dont watch sports, in general) to start watching in any kind of numbers: 1. lower the rim to 9 feet. Dunking has to be a part of the game. Dunking makes the game more exciting. It creates emotion. Fans love it. 2. Play bikini basketball. Bikini volleyball is a sport. Seeing females playing basketball while wearing bikinis...would definitely increase the ratings. Or....keep losing $10 mil a year on a sport that hardly any sane sports fan watches.

[@Siegeclan34]

They can't sustain itself as it is, they have been SUBSIDIZED BY THE NBA THEIR ENTIRE EXISTENCE!

[@forestgump8357]

Well they already don't sustain themselves, they are propped up by NBA money.

[@pjmmccann]

It's more than likely that Bobby Riggs threw the match against Billie Jean King: he was the overwhelming favourite to win, having beaten Margaret Court without even raising a hint of a sweat, and the guy was riddled with debt. So he would have got pretty great odds on losing. (Indeed, if you watch the game, or any one of several analyses of the encounter, you'll see that he changed his style of play from the earlier game against Margaret Court to something much less effective. More than a little fishy...)

[@selfdo]

King HAD to throw that match for a simple reason: it was WHO he owed money to. He got involved with some rather "sketchy" financiers. That being said, the promoters also had a vested interest in King winning; they wanted the women's game to gain more respect, and if their 'best' couldn't even beat a 55 year old has-been, it would set back women's tennis to the point where it'd become a sideshow. Riggs not only had a strong incentive (i.e., to not be fitted with "cement overshoes") to lose, he was a gentleman who actually liked women and was happy to "take one" to help their cause in sports.

[@buddysally886]

Exactly 😊

[@nickface55]

I was a 6' high school basketball player who sat way at the end of the bench. At the time I went to the gym and found a group of women who could play and got involved in a 3 on 3. It turned out that they were the womans basketball team from the University of Idaho. Now the truth was that I was way to fast for them to cover me out top and too strong for their 6'3 center to guard underneath. I could literally do anything that I wanted. Now they weren't the WNBA but I was a bench player from a mediocre high school boys team. If I had played for them I would have been a superstar and would have lead them in every single statistical category. I would also remind you that I was younger than they were at the time as well.

[@dbbdbdbdbd599]

In highschool boys school team and girls school team played against each other and the boys completely dominated, and thats an understament. It was literally like seeing nba players against toddlers. Their main focus was to rizz them up

[@joefaller4525]

MY experience wasn't WNBA, but involved a starting center for a top ten NCAA D1 player. I was in my mid 30,s playing pick up games twice a week with a bunch of older businessmen, lawyers and doctors etc. I was definitely one of the youngest. The college girl that played in our scrimmage was 6'1" and all of our "big men" were in their early to mid 1950s. She was unable to do much against these guys who were the same height or slightly taller. I was very surprised as I was very familiar with this woman who was the best player on her HS state championship team. It was surprised that she wasn't much more effective against us. BTW, I am 5'6" and was not good enough to make my HS varsity team.

[@DetectiveJayJackson]

This really happened, I can promise you that they wouldn’t leave CC off the roster like they did in the Olympics.

[@MH-lk8md]

My grade 9 boys coach also coached the championship women’s university team down the road. We had played together for less than a week… and we DECIMATED the championship women’s team. It wasn’t close.

[@believeit1234]

As a longtime basketball ref and head coach of both boys and girls high school teams I can wholeheartedly attest that the disparity of talent between the boys and girls is deep - abyss deep. So much so that if the undefeated Class A 20-0 girls champion played the 0-20 Class D bottom feeder boys team, the boys would win a a rout. In other words, the worst boys team would still easily beat the best girls team each and every time. Just the way it is, and the WNBA needs to come to grips with this reality. Doesn't mean the girls can't compete against each other and enjoy what sports afford those who play, again, just the way it is.

[@garydelacruz7690]

Yowww You did Ben Simmons dirty with that picture of his 😂😂😂😂

[@GrindSzn7]

Bro I’m dying

[@hbg143]

I don't truly believe most WNBA players think they could play with elite male players. When it comes to demanding more money (which their sport doesn't produce) some profess to be the same talent level as NBA players. When I see any competition between a WNBA player and a man, it's usually a man who is much younger or older or shorter or way less talented (like me) or employeed by the WNBA team to assure a victory. Then they say that uneven contest proves their point. I've NEVER seen them play a current or past NBA player.

[@clayglc0206]

Take a look at Dale High School in Oklahoma. 2A juggernauts! They have impressive accomplishments for the size of town that they are from.

[@charvisq]

I have two stories, but one involved my brother who went to the local gym with some friends and would casually hoop. The Houston Comets at the time wanted to practice against men, & these casual hoop guys absolutely destroyed them! News got out that they were practicing against men, so when the news crew showed up, they told them to stage it for the camera to make it look like the Comets could hold their own against them

[@penguinjay]

that's when you wait to go live, stuff a shot, and go "AHHHHHHHHHH!"

[@my3dviews]

What they need to do is put the basket up to 12 feet for the men to score on and leave it at 10 or even drop it to 9 feet for the women.

[@Texashog11]

@@my3dviews. They already play with a basketball that is smaller than the regulation ball that men use. Someday with this type of reasoning the women might play a semi close game.

[@my3dviews]

@@Texashog11 I mean if you have a game between men and women, you need to give women an advantage with the height of the basket. The size of the ball is irrelevant since both teams would be using the same ball.

[@callak_9974]

That's fine, the news crew could do that but with other gym members there would be filming it on their phones so that would totally destroy that narrative.

[@joeldriver-sp2rg]

Just to be clear it is well known by anybody that is knowledgeable about tennis that Bobby Riggs threw that match against BJK. He had just beat world #1 Margaret Court in a match 6-2, 6-1 and completely destroyed her and she was better than BJK. I don't even know much about tennis and I've watched the match where they played and Riggs clearly is throwing shots left and right. He must have made a huge bet against himself and cashed in on it.

[@handsomeX]

And he was 55yrs old at the time.

[@joeldriver-sp2rg]

@@handsomeX Yes which makes it much, much worse.

[@kalipooh3388]

@@joeldriver-sp2rg Margaret was not better then BJK

[@joeldriver-sp2rg]

@@kalipooh3388 Why was she ranked #1 in the world then?

[@MrJbee73]

​@@joeldriver-sp2rgbecause she was better. Lol

[@westtex3675]

They would never have such an exhibition game. The 2 sides don’t even use the same sized basketball. How would you decide which ball to use?

[@chrisfacchiano7356]

This would definitely be the most viewed WNBA game of all time

[@khm6585]

Tbf, it's a lose-lose situation for the WNBA. If the WNBA team win, this would be an expected result since they are pros. If they lose against those highschool boys? The roast gonna be BRUTAL.

[@sabrevinver4062]

assuming they would win..

[@joshualong7517]

Bobby Riggs threw the game, too. A good friend of ours is friends with him and knew it was going to be lost before it started to drive the hype machine crazy.

[@1stAmendmentorDie1776]

We all know bobby was broke and threw that match.

[@dougie8010]

Your commentary is spot on! Especially if the WNBA could hold their own and maintain a reasonably close loss. I would argue the boys team has to be U15s. I was fully grown at 14 and riding road pushies in a higher level at that age so believe that scenario would be fair for the girls!

[@zanti4132]

I'm with you on thinking a fair match-up would be a star team of boys under 15 vs a WNBA team. Anyone who thinks it is insulting to say high school boys would beat any WNBA team easily needs to realize that the high school boys will have a very significant advantage in both height and athleticism.

[@guiwhiz]

Honestly... not even sure that's fair if you talk about an AAU Elite level 15u team. My son's 15U team that won the NE Regional (chose not to go to nationals as too many of the kids' families couldn't do the travel) had 5 boys 6'2" or taller on it with 3 dunkers. The PG was already getting interest from some lower level D-1 schools and they had 3 kids who had legit NBA 3pt range. That team.... yeah... pretty sure they take a WNBA team 3 out of 5 games consistently.

[@Chris-es6ps]

Please... You mean to tell me that 15 year old teenage boys could handle Rebecca lobo or a Brittany griner in the post?? Id pay to see it.

[@Chris-es6ps]

Not the Chicago sky championship team. Let the 15 year old boys play them.

[@brysonbuck9709]

I think that the expierience that the WNBA players have from playing longer than the 15yo's would be a little too much for them but I definitely think that the boys would give them a fight

[@pauldelay7797]

Most sport experts believe that Bobby Riggs threw that match because of gambling depths. The reason most believed that was because Riggs destroyed Margret Court a few months before and King couldn’t beat Court at the time.

[@richborn6700]

I feel like this new crop of girls like Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark want that senior smoke 🤣🤣

[@J0hnRatcliffe]

so wnba players would get absolutely smoked, but college players could do better? Dude what are you not thinking?

[@castleford2591]

​@@J0hnRatcliffeHe's saying they wouldn't be scared to play.

[@MrFlashsnap806]

I played 4 years of basketball in H.S., I guarantee you a WNBA team could not have beaten my 9th grade JV team. The other issue regarding this topic; would you use the smaller female basketball, or the regulation size ball.

[@nonionob7787]

In 2017, the world record in the 100 m dash and the world record in the 400 m -, the women’s world record, each was broken 15,000 times by men and boys.

[@johnlongstreth1525]

I never realized that Bobby Riggs was 55 at the time. I am older than that so, I can say playing a 29 year old Billie Jean King was definitely not a true measure of ability for women in tennis. Age is like that. It changes the calculus.

[@tonystarks5733]

👍👍👍💯💯💯

[@muztan3100]

As someone said earlier, he supposedly threw that game for a likely bet against himself.

[@stevenasser368]

The fact that Brian Griner is 6 foot 9 and barely gets over the rim is a joke

[@deirdre108]

When King beat Riggs, she was at the top of her game-- Riggs had been at the top of his game 30 years earlier. She beat a man who was old enough to be her father.

[@stickman-1]

Riggs was 55 years old, King was 29. He just got tired and anyone over 50 knows how that goes. Also he really did like King and in an interview I saw him give many years later, he alluded to that fact that he "let" her win. He mentioned how tired he was and didn't have the drive or energy to keep battling. And yes, I'd pay PPV to see it as long as the price was reasonable.

[@Greg1096]

There are quite a few theorys that he threw the game to cover some gambling debts

[@lutherheggs]

AND Riggs had to defend the doubles line. It would have been a one sided Riggs win otherwise.

[@stickman-1]

Actually that was the Connors v Navratilova match. Connors was limited to one serve per point and Navratilova could hit to the doubles line. Conner still beat her 7-5, 6-2 in 88 minutes. And Navratilova was a better player than King IMO. The whole thing was rigged from the start. Riggs was in debt to the mob, and all the odds makers put Riggs up easily. So the mob bet on King and made a killing, wiping out Riggs debt. Riggs beating Court was the precursor. The whole thing was a setup. But the public eat it up because of the times. A player named Hal Shaw claims to have heard the negotiations of the mob before the match was even set. But anyone who watched it knew that was not Bobby Riggs trying to win.

[@lutherheggs]

@@stickman-1 I got some bad information from someone who wasn't in command of the facts. Your info is very interesting! Thanks!

[@stickman-1]

That's cool. Riggs son even believes it was a setup. @@lutherheggs

[@carolinec4289]

BJK is a queen but I think any woman who’s playing in a grand slam can beat any man, no matter the age, if he hasn’t played tennis much because tennis is so skill based. Although, a high school varsity boy against a woman grand slam champion I think both could possibly win.

[@khawaitkhastellano353]

yeah when i was 15 i was shooting around in the gym & a girl who was a small forward for fresno state came in there we played 1 v 1. i won like 11-5. i started playing basketball at 14 & had never played organized ball in my life 😂

[@jakemccoy]

The game has to be against male 8th graders and maybe 9th graders. There is just no way possible against top juniors and seniors. More precisely, keep the boys team 15 years old max.

[@guiwhiz]

Even then... if you take an AAU Elite u15 squad? My son was 6'2" tall at 15 (now 6'4" at 16) and he played small forward for his AAU Elite team. The starting PF and Center were 6'4" and 6'6" respectively.

[@smoothALOE]

I’ve told people I was the last guy on the bench while playing jv basketball in high school, but held my own vs a couple of D2-level women’s college players while playing pickup games at a gym. People were trying to tell me I made it up. Why would I do that? I wasn’t even saying it to say they couldn’t play; just that the level of play is completely different.

[@jonny15dk]

I shut down a D3 bench player that was 6'1 and 250lbs and she was fast. She scored 0 points on me. I am only 2 inchs taller and I was 195lbs. She would not post me up and she would settle for 10fters and missed all of them. I never tried out for my Highschool. But I was above JV starter skill level 1 on 1. I beat a starting SG 1 on 1 while being out of shape.

[@smoothALOE]

@@jonny15dk right. I’m about 6’1” and weighed in at around 200 at the time. One of the women was a forward and was roughly the same size as I was. The other was a guard and a good half foot shorter.

[@grimeybeast1465]

Interesting note, Bobby Riggs likely threw that match with King. He even told one of his friends as much before he died. If you watch the whole match, there are moments where he looks like he's sandbagging.

[@Cactusboxes]

Yea this is what would happen if you did wnba vs highschool and the girls won a close game. Everyone would just say the boys let them win 🫤 and if they likely lose, then everyone would clown the women. Seems like a lose-lose situation to me tbh

[@azul93gt38]

@@Cactusboxes - The media got a lot of mileage out of BJK "beating" the 55 year old never was, Riggs. Most people believe BJK won, and no matter what you did to sandbag the boys' team, I don't know how you even make it look competitive. The boys have too much of an ability, size, athleticism, and aggressiveness advantage.

[@claytonjohnson6945]

Riggs was definitely a hustler and he probably bet against himself and got paid........

[@user-eh4wg2ex6j]

@@Cactusboxescope harder replying to all these comments😂

[@grimeybeast1465]

​@@Cactusboxes Sandbagging or not, there's a reason we're talking about the WNBA playing against high schoolers rather than the NBA. It's the same reason BJK played tennis against a 55 year old Bobby Riggs instead of a top male tennis player of the day. It's because everyone knows they would get destroyed. It wouldn't even be close. The only way they even have a chance is if the men play at a handicap. In this case they're playing against high school boys, instead of pros. In Billy Jean King's case, she beat a retired, out of shape, chain-smoking Bobby Riggs, who, arguably was holding back.

[@toddp.226]

I'm a white guy that is in his 50's now and played junior college basketball. I was 6'4" and 235 lbs with a good vertical. Could dunk with zero steps off two feet with ease and shoot the lights out from 3 as well. At the time there wasn't a WNBA, but I remember telling one of my friends when I was in my 30's that I could beat the best female basketball player in the world one on one 1000 out of 1000 times. I still think I was correct, but of course I couldn't do it now, well at least not 100% of the time. I still think I could beat the best female player in the world around 50% of the time to this day. Michael Jordan would make them look silly and Shaq would make it illegal. I would say that most NBA players in their 60's could form a team that would beat the WNBA champions with ease. It's a joke. Men are just better in EVERY area. I wouldn't watch a WNBA game from start to finish for less than a thousand dollars, just not worth the pain. And that's on tv, you would have to pay me MUCH more to actually go watch in person. And in college I dated a 6'2" volleyball player who also had basketball scholarships. And yes, she beat me in horse a couple of times, but one on one I would drop step and dunk all over her, it wasn't even fair, why we just played HORSE. I was actually afraid of injuring her if we played one on one for "real". Men were engineered for war, fighting, etc and women were engineered to have children and keep the human race going. Facts are facts, and you don't even have to like it.

[@selfdo]

The penultimate sentence says it all. Physically, men and women are DIFFERENT. Many sports, like basketball, men have an incredible advantage, due to generally greater height, weight, and muscle mass, especially in the upper body. Women were simply not built for hand-to-hand, melee combat against men, no matter what some comic book or TV series asserts. They do have certain advantages in agility and/or endurance, which, again, reflect their abilities in fine crafts, or in handling small, very active and agile toddlers, and, of course, without them, the human race ends (as likewise if there's no men). This is the simple reason why "trans" athletes should NOT compete in women's sports, physically, they have the XY chromosome and still are MALE, no matter their otherwise disgusting, effeminate manners.

[@paulscottrobson]

I'm a cricketer (think Baseball pitcher if you don't know the game). I'm 60, overweight, and nothing more than an amateur player in pub teams. I can bowl (e.g. pitch) at the same speed as the international female equivalent. It's ridiculous really, the pretence.

[@kevinb9313]

The Riggs-King match was tilted towards King. Bobbie only got one serve, not the standard two. Also King got to play with the doubles line while Riggs had to play the singles" lines.

[@pugsnhogz]

this isn’t true

[@bobjeff1243]

@@pugsnhogz then u haven't seen the facts

[@Rome_504]

The issue with this, the boys would naturally take off a little bit too against the women, instead of just giving them the business like they would do against another guy. Whenever I played against a female I’d play them with a little less aggression, because it was a woman, and they would be trying their best. So if this game was close it’ll only be because the boys left a little off the plate.

[@BatmanBoss]

My high school team would’ve smoked a WNBA team

[@N7Tigger]

I'm 50 years old and I've never played professionally and I don't think I've put up as many airballs in my life as I saw from WNBA players just in this video.

[@ditto1958]

When I was in college some friends dragged me to a women’s basketball game. Both teams were NCAA D-1. I quickly became bored, but my friends were staying so I started to analyze the game a bit, and I realized that my mediocre high school JV team would have easily wiped either of those women’s teams off the floor. It’s just not a very good game, women’s basketball. Three women’s sports that are good to watch? Softball, volleyball, tennis.

[@mikehoward9211]

good to watch? you mean the girls are prettier in volleyball and tennis

[@BleakOsama]

played a high level d2 schools women’s basketball team with my friends from my aau team at the the time i was a sophomore in high school. we ran them off the floor. not to say they were not good but they just couldn’t keep up even when they would foul like crazy it just was nothing they could do.

[@sphong0610]

Yup, We scrimmaged with WNBA/foreign league players a couple of times and I felt that we were not only much more athletic but also had better discipline on defense. The one thing that they did have on us was positioning and in-game management but that didn't mean much with the tempo we were playing at. I was in highschool and starting PG at 6'2 and our tallest player was 6'8. To be fair some of the WNBA players were only about 5 years older than us.

[@Enoughsenoughnomas]

I don’t think she’s calling him a dumbass for knowing highschool boys could beat woman professionals, calling him a dumbass for not having a life and acting like a bully on a playground

[@jvcomedy]

I never quite understand when people use the Riggs vs. King tennis match as a good example of men vs. women in sports. That match was a 29 year old femaile in her prime vs. a 55 year old retired player. They should use the Connors vs. Navratilova match as they were both still active players. The used hybrid rules as Connors had to defend a doubles court and was only allowed one serve yet he still beat her in straight sets.

[@EZALAS]

Played against five members of the Milwaukee Does Women's Professional basketball team in 1978 several time at the UWM field house. Nice girls. I assumed they wanted to play against college guys to improve their game and toughness. No problem. I was finishing grad school, 6'4", 32" vertical and had played HS ball and on many league teams in college. I remember the ladies were each about 5'10 to 6 feet tall, solid on passing fundamentals and could hit an open 16-17 foot outside shot. That said, there was zero chance - and I mean zero - that any of them could drive into the lane and score. I could block any of their shots at will. Forget about boxing out or getting physical - they could not compete in that regard. The obvious difference between the ladies and the college guys was (1) the ladies could not jump; and (2) they had no explosve quickness. Typical gym rat guys - not former HS or college players - could routinely blow past any of the lady professional players and get their shot off with impunity. Sorry, but that's the stone cold truth.

[@dhart8451]

I was playing on a bar team in the late '70s in Milwaukee and I sent a registered letter to the Does office. The letter said that my bar team would challenge the Does to a game with referees for $1000, the winning team to give the money to a charity of their choice. The Does response was................well I'm still waiting..

[@metanga1223]

I agree with them as competitive as a high school boy's champion team to be entertaining. But, a problem with WNBA is that they believe they are as good as or better than some of MBA players. Their pride would not let them play against a high school boy's champion team. And, with or lose, their foul attitudes would spoil the outcome of the match.

[@jonsmith6506]

if they did this, the wnba would be finished !!!!

[@stevenashe8900]

What the hell is the point of all this? It’s like asking who would win between Muhammad Ali and Robert Duran. We all know the answer. A high school boys state championship basketball team would be comprised of guys 17 to maybe even 19 and would have a significant size advantage. Why would anyone want to see the WNBA be humiliated like that? Just putting up $1 million alone has the effect of belittling and humiliating the WNBA. These women all worked very hard to be the best in their class. I’m sure a lot of young girls look up to them and maybe even aspire to be them. What purpose does this serve other than to belittle women’s basketball which - respect it or not - adds to the overall interest in the sport? That’s what this country has become: just “owning” anyone that can make you feel good about yourself or make you money. I think all those who are perpetuating this debate should just shut the hell up.

[@brettwheeler7753]

Bobby Riggs tanked the match to pay off gambling debts that he owed to the Mafia. A couple of months earlier, Riggs had defeated the women's no. 1 in the World tennis player. This was all to set up the match with BJK.

[@Financialwiz4567]

Our girls team was ranked in top ten nationally my freshman year of high school. To help get them ready to play vs state competition they scrimmaged our 9th grade average boys team. They had the number one female player in the nation, she was held to a mere 4 points in what amounted to about 20 minutes of play. We crushed the girls team in that scrimmage. A few years later I had the privilege of playing against a NBA starter. He made me feel like a kindergartner trying to play against a grown man. So the gaps are enormous. The only females I have seen fare well vs guys of high school/college age are those who can shoot well and make a step back three. Trying to rebound, drive the lane, pull up for a jumper all end disastrously for female vs male competition.

[@BiosTheo]

Anyone else wanna point out that the WNBA isn't where all the top women's prospects go, but European leagues?

[@benny341vorques9]

We should give this challenge to all those women's teams to a boys or men's team. Be it basketball, football, boxing or whatever sports category.

[@beng4151]

That starting five from montverde academy is better than everyone in a 500 mile radius of me, and that includes colleges. A six foot seven shooting guard? He would annihilate everyone I've seen play basketball.

[@mrwookie72]

Correction: the Wrexham mens team that trounced the US women's team were all long retired players. None were active players.

[@sonnybelanger6068]

If you took the 12 best 16yrs old in the USA and put them Vs the WNBA champ.... the 16yrs old boys would win by 70.

[@TheAetherGamer]

R u a kings fan

[@therealBocaStudios]

Fact. After high school I played in a city league there was one girl there who was better than me and plenty of guys. When I went into the navy I played basketball on a team and was only one of two white guys to make the entire league roster, the other dude was 7 ft tall. Billy Jean king was a dude anyway..he/she/it is an example of men moving into woman’s sports

[@Nikkithedog-t6b]

This really shouldn't even be a debate, I can't think of any state boys title winner that could lose to the wnba champs. It's just apples and oranges.

[@eisleyism]

I play beach volleyball. I beat 2 low ranking male AVP pros with an NCAA woman. No bullshit, no tricks. Straight up, hard hitting. That being said, I still agree with the premise of the video.

[@mark11967AD]

I’d actually like to see WNBA teams play top rated boys high school teams just to see what would happen with the understanding that no cheap shot play or fouls will be allowed. Just good clean basketball and honestly just see what happens. It would be fun if both sides had their share of wins. And if the women were successful then they might try a few power 5 men’s college teams. Just see how they do. Or you could have a WNBA all star team of women play those men’s teams. Obviously the college teams most feel would beat the women. But still would be interesting to watch as long as sportsmanship and not hate or dissing was the name of the game. Along with competing of course.

[@justinpybus85]

I’d bet an additional $10 that, if me WNBA were to agree to such a game, they’d leave Caitlin Clark off the team 🙄🤦‍♂️

[@Genzo-hz6bc]

That's the same in soccer, they'll just keep bragging equal pay when do Australians women team which is the 5th place ranked in the world lost 7-0 to The Arsenal Under 15 players

[@Ish4MyIggans]

That Monteverde team is beating the Spurs Pistons and Portland RN

[@Huls0356]

It’s no different than that 15 years and under boys soccer team that smoked the US Olympic gold medal soccer team. It was embarrassing, wasn’t even close.

[@Homer-OJ-Simpson]

And heavyweight boxers would smoke middleweight boxers yet middleweight boxing is great to watch regardless. The point is that it’s irrelevant if best high school boys can beat WNBA players

[@orange_cat]

As a former male basketball player in high school and college, I've played against the top notch players in both arenas. Any state-champ male high schoolers would easily destroy all women. The male college players, division 1 or even 2, would be nice and make it a "close game".

[@sandmonst]

That's all true, but if you take an average boys high school team they will lose every time to a wnba team. They would be smaller and way less skilled, and not as well coached. People need to understand there is a huge difference between a state champion high school team and an average high school team. The average high school basketball team is made up of normal kids who are recreational athletes.

[@keithyoung7]

The Riggs v King game, apparently Riggs has a gambling problem and needed money. He was the favourite, therefore the odds on King were good. I rest my case m’lord.

[@thizlam4810]

My favorite one was when Brittany Griner said she could beat Demarcus cousins in a 1v1. Then they asked Brittany Griner’s coach if she could beat Demarcus cousins in a 1v1 and he said: I’m gonna go to the ATM, I’m going to sell my house, and I’m putting all my money on Demarcus Cousins 😂

[@terryblejokes]

In 2003, the Chinese men's table tennis team beat the Shanghai female soccer team (League champion, half of the players in the national team) 8-6.

[@Deliveries_with_ADHD]

Unfortunately, the books would make the odds so low, you would probably win 1 cent for every $1000 bet.

[@VelhaGuardaTricolor]

Prime Women vs a a 55 year older bloke and people say there was no handicap.

[@brucecole3263]

They never mention that Bobby Riggs beat Margaret Court before playing King.

[@OnLine-sk8xk]

In my city high-school sports are ran like old school colleges powerhouses, half the players aren't even students, not residents, and are (illegally) paid and housed so a state champ high-school team could me be more like a d1 or d2 school nonetheless, the Wnba should ignore that disrespect.

[@danielsgrunge]

I dont know anything about basketball but if this game was to happen I would spend 20h a day learning the game so could watch it and experience this masterpiec of a battle

[@brianshepherd9927]

Okay! How about wnba all stars vs an all boys high-school state champ? I would pay to watch it too?!

[@ItsSillyBillE]

Great video but I don't know why you think this would be a huge hit on ppv.... Nobody paying $20-50 to watch a blow out and will just catch the highlights later lol

[@ReuvenF957]

After seeing and hearing the stats on the Montverde team, maybe we should limit it to high-school freshmen (14-year olds).

[@thecreator23]

Prime chino hills would destory any wnba team in history