Toolmakers Adjustable V Blocks P2

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@Lazer108
@Lazer108 2 жыл бұрын
Little things like elastic bands around the parallels, are just neat little tricks I'd never of thought of. Thanks!
@privatezim3637
@privatezim3637 4 жыл бұрын
Respect for the ballsy tapping method there
@ctsteve1967
@ctsteve1967 4 жыл бұрын
ya think but it worked with brass
@michaelandersen7535
@michaelandersen7535 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he must really know the machine. That could easily go wrong...
@37yearsofanythingisenough39
@37yearsofanythingisenough39 4 жыл бұрын
If you have a 3 phase mill it will automatically reverse when you throw the power switch in the opposite direction. No need for waiting for a complete stop. If you have never tried this, you should, but I would suggest you bring the rpm down to a very low speed until you get the hang of it. Drill the hole at the correct spindle speed, put the mill in back gear, put the tap in a KEYED chuck (ball bearing type the best).....not keyless as it will self tighten sometimes to the point of cracking the chuck, make sure the vise is tight, and bring the tap to the work using the quill feed handle until it begins to self feed, keeping your hand on the power switch to instantly reverse before you run out of threads on the tap.I had high school students doing power tapping on Bridgeport’s in just a few minutes. You can do it too. And after you get the hang of it use common sense........no you should probably not tap 1 inch-8 threaded holes using this method and use a spiral point or gun type tap that pushes the chips ahead of the tap. Through holes only. No blind holes until hours of experience unless you like removing broken taps.
@johnbirkholz994
@johnbirkholz994 4 жыл бұрын
@@37yearsofanythingisenough39 Power tapping as you described (quite well I might add) is a pretty reliable way to tap holes if you are already set up in the mill. Leaving the chuck just slightly looser than you want it to be lets the tap do its work, but slip rather than snap if it binds. Saves a lot of arm and wrist strain, especially if you have a multiple hole pattern to do. Source: I am apprenticing in tool and die at my job and did this last week, instructed by a 40 year veteran machinist.
@37yearsofanythingisenough39
@37yearsofanythingisenough39 4 жыл бұрын
John Birkholz thanks John. Nice to know I can still verbally cover a technical subject to the point of understanding.
@ChrisFiggatt
@ChrisFiggatt 4 жыл бұрын
Love seeing your various options for setups
@twobob
@twobob 4 жыл бұрын
I was impressed by the luster of the cluster ;)
@jeffbuckles
@jeffbuckles 4 жыл бұрын
"That's what I'm gettin' to with all this yappin'" You keep yappin, I'll keep listening. It's all good!
@Rob_65
@Rob_65 4 жыл бұрын
I have a few of those 'little vises' in larger dimensions, sometimes called toolmaker vise, sometimes grinding vise but all times the chingas drops out of the chingas here too. I love how you spend the time to explain the different ways to set up for milling the chamfer on the nut.
@robertpartsmade5832
@robertpartsmade5832 4 жыл бұрын
I Fail to see why anybody can give content like this the 👎 .... as always Mr Lipton an excellent video . Stay safe Regards Robert Partsmade 🇬🇧
@MikeBramm
@MikeBramm 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work. You always show some new way of getting the job done.
@davidweber4750
@davidweber4750 4 жыл бұрын
You and all of the other creators especially you are all such amazing teachers and such a great thing that you're sharing your knowledge because I know that back when you probably learned people didn't necessarily do that you had to figure it out by yourself I'm glad that you're here to share your wisdom
@jeffbuckles
@jeffbuckles 4 жыл бұрын
It's always a pleasure to watch someone with the heart of a teacher sharing what they've learned. "Don't ask him how he knows that..."
@yosmith1
@yosmith1 4 жыл бұрын
I don't care how many times I watch Tom work, there's always many "no shit" moments. Keep em coming, Tom!
@Pow3llMorgan
@Pow3llMorgan 4 жыл бұрын
"I've screwed up every way that you can probably screw up on stuff like this" I hope you know how much this means to those of us who are budding machinists or hobbyists, coming from someone like you. It brings great confidence and reassurance, I can tell you!
@hassiaschbi
@hassiaschbi 4 жыл бұрын
Povl Besser an expert is a person who did all the mistakes in that specific field
@Pow3llMorgan
@Pow3llMorgan 4 жыл бұрын
@@hassiaschbi I like that explanation more than the bone-dry one I've been given: An expert is someone who has more than 10.000 hours worth of experience in a specific field.
@Cadwaladr
@Cadwaladr 4 жыл бұрын
I'm primarily a woodworker, but I always enjoy your videos and feel smart when I think of something related to machining, for instance, it occurred to me that you could probably use a fly cutter to cut those radii, then you mentioned it a minute later.
@robwigglezz944
@robwigglezz944 4 жыл бұрын
Pre thumbs up, cause I know it'll satisfy my craving.
@1dd-h6y
@1dd-h6y 4 жыл бұрын
Try doubling up the thin parallels, the shorter one against the vise jaws and the one supporting the part next to it. For example, 1-1/4" parallels against the jaws and 1-3/8" tall parallels held next to them. For thinner parts I use a curved piece of flat spring steel to hold the parallels in place. It would be nice if 1/16" parallels were commercially available. Thanks for the posts.
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
That was great. I sure am glad you are making some videos again. I tap things like that but mostly in the drill press.
@fredgenius
@fredgenius 4 жыл бұрын
Love the sine bar! Next time you get more made, how about some metric versions? 100mm would be nice...
@MrRvandeW
@MrRvandeW 4 жыл бұрын
I second that, 100mm would be a nice size.
@Rob_65
@Rob_65 4 жыл бұрын
Meh ... even if the length is exactly 100mm, you always end up with odd sizes of gauge blocks to be stacked together. But since my vises are only 100mm wide that would be a nice size. But you do need to engrave the length of the sine bar, preferably in metric as well as imperial sizes.
@michaelmarks1391
@michaelmarks1391 4 жыл бұрын
Love the rubber bands to hold the thin parallels.
@seanrodden6151
@seanrodden6151 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Marks Not as pretty as the Edgetech solution, but quite a bit cheaper!
@johnbirkholz994
@johnbirkholz994 4 жыл бұрын
@@seanrodden6151 My coworkers put a light duty spring between the parallels, same idea as the rubber band, just pushing them out rather than pulling them back.
@Molb0rg
@Molb0rg 4 жыл бұрын
those angle setting options - soo sweet))
@ckvasnic1
@ckvasnic1 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You Mr Wizard! Thank you for sharing your time and many talents! All the best Chuck
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 4 жыл бұрын
I use my magnetic electronic level all the time for setup. It works great!!
@kknives_switzerland
@kknives_switzerland 4 жыл бұрын
So do I😁🤜🏻
@Ryan-dz3jo
@Ryan-dz3jo 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom, really enjoy the yappin and set up demonstrations.
@nickhenscheid369
@nickhenscheid369 4 жыл бұрын
I loved the small part setup! I machined a bunch of tiny 1/4" square brass a few years ago for fancy cabinet door hardware and the hardest part was holding on to the stuff.
@erlingweiseth2774
@erlingweiseth2774 4 жыл бұрын
Off to the garage to try some power tapping for the rest of the day. Nice video. Thanks, Tom!
@СергейКолесников-ф5ь
@СергейКолесников-ф5ь 4 жыл бұрын
Спасибо за Ваши видеообзоры. На Вашем опыте хорошо учиться. Много интересных технологических приемов.
@SlowEarl1
@SlowEarl1 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool video! Always learn something new .Thanks Tom!
@MattysWorkshop
@MattysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Gday Tom, those digital level boxes are brilliant, I’ve had one for quite a while now and it’s more than good enough for the projects I make, I find it really useful for setting the compound slide angle on my shaper, takes the guess work out, the little tiny vice could be a very handy item to own as well, probability get used quite often for little jobs that are a pain to hold in a set of larger jaws, easier to hold the part in place when snugging up the vice, thanks Tom for sharing another great video, please stay safe, Cheers Matty
@oldschoolengineer58
@oldschoolengineer58 4 жыл бұрын
Tom that was a neat trick with the tapped jaw screw, i will alter my own and use that set up, thanks for sharing and keep safe
@RightOnJonCrane
@RightOnJonCrane 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great video Tom! The Ox Tool sine bar gets the job done ✅ I’ll have to head over to your swag rack and pick up one 👏💪
@gasparini76
@gasparini76 4 жыл бұрын
Good to see you back Tom! Stay safe!
@Texicles
@Texicles 4 жыл бұрын
Watching the first few minutes of exploiting symmetry, I thought to myself, I knew Tom was a bright guy, but I didn't realize he was some kinda brain genius
@MrCellardoor7
@MrCellardoor7 4 жыл бұрын
Texicles machinists have been using these techniques for a long time
@Texicles
@Texicles 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrCellardoor7 I know they have, and it's not the first time I've seen it. My comment was exaggerated for comedic effect That said, while I've seen all sorts of tricks before, I don't get to interact with real machinists much. CNC folks seem to have little use for the arcane arts of machining, and sometimes look at you like you've got lobsters crawling out of your ears when suggest such things. There are people out there, running successful shops, who don't understand the concept of grinding a HSS form tool. Literally willing to buy a whole box of carbide insert blanks and have a tool grinder make form tools with them for a one-off, 2 piece aluminum job because they don't quite grok that you can buy a $4 piece of HSS and get the same (possibly better) result Old school toolmakers exist, Tom's proof enough of that, but there are places where manufacturing takes place seemingly without their sorcerer's ways
@MrCellardoor7
@MrCellardoor7 4 жыл бұрын
Texicles all manufacturing takes place without sorcery, most manufacturing takes place without hand ground tools
@Texicles
@Texicles 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrCellardoor7 Whooooooosh...
@Chris-bg8mk
@Chris-bg8mk 4 жыл бұрын
The biggest pitfall, as I see it, is that your datum moves around when you exploit the symmetry. As long as you are keeping an eye on that, and the parts required precision supports it, it's a great technique!
@craigbrown790
@craigbrown790 4 жыл бұрын
Very much enjoying this project, and all other projects you do for that matter, and would like to make a pair of these in the future. Would also be great if you made one of those tiny vices that you used to hold the brass part. Cheers, Craig
@bulletproofpepper2
@bulletproofpepper2 4 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s awesome!!! Thanks for sharing
@krazziee2000
@krazziee2000 4 жыл бұрын
very good video and lesson, thanks so much for your knowledge..
@billdlv
@billdlv 4 жыл бұрын
Looks good Tom. I like your tips on holding the small part at the angle.
@christurley391
@christurley391 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Tom.
@jamesstanlake4064
@jamesstanlake4064 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I love the digital angle finder. As a woodworker I bought one simular to the one you have but when I recently bought a new table saw it had one built in for the blade angle adjustment. So much easier than kneeling down and trying to align a flimsy pointer on a wide mark on the cabinet base.
@wilsonhardy2100
@wilsonhardy2100 4 жыл бұрын
Tom, you just rock, that’s all there is.
@outsidescrewball
@outsidescrewball 4 жыл бұрын
lots of lessons...enjoyed
@mikepeterson8663
@mikepeterson8663 4 жыл бұрын
Tom look's like you have another project right in your setup. You could make a new one or make a fix for your little vise. amazing what you think of when you have extra time on your hands lol. Cheers from Chigwell Alberta Canada still -6 today and a foot of snow left
@bob_mllr
@bob_mllr 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom - greate video!
@sulyluu
@sulyluu 4 жыл бұрын
Question, does anyone know where the into tune comes from... I like it..
@waldemarii
@waldemarii 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job there.
@priority2
@priority2 4 жыл бұрын
I hate when my chingus falls out! Great tutorial Tom, thanks 😊👍
@rickhaass1133
@rickhaass1133 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom - cool clip
@kevinzucco8358
@kevinzucco8358 4 жыл бұрын
Where can we buy these sine bars??? Looking to buy a couple.
@fredcreer1929
@fredcreer1929 4 жыл бұрын
And a price for supply to the U.K. if that is possible?.
@heatshield
@heatshield 4 жыл бұрын
I tried looking them up for you but I got a cosine error.
@Ted007-r5r
@Ted007-r5r 2 жыл бұрын
I like your videos. I could not find a link to the PDF files.
@jeffk5062
@jeffk5062 4 жыл бұрын
How do we buy that little sine bar
@Smallathe
@Smallathe 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, as usual. As for annular cutters - I wanted to buy one... let's just say that the price tag on these makes me close the ebay page promptly...😂
@andymouse
@andymouse 4 жыл бұрын
Great vids, I am measuring tiny currents in materials, in the Nano, Pico range so sort of the same thing, Metrology, once you go down the rabbit hole your in all kinds of trouble !....just found you and subbed.
@royreynolds108
@royreynolds108 4 жыл бұрын
You definitely are in the right hole.
@ROBRENZ
@ROBRENZ 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed Tom! ATB, Robin
@emanuellandry4559
@emanuellandry4559 4 жыл бұрын
Great videos!! Do you make or buy those little mini vises?
@bobwas4066
@bobwas4066 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video series!! I like the idea of that stop on the end of the milling vise. Did you show how to make that in a past video? what are the dimensions of the stop? Thanks
@guye7763
@guye7763 4 жыл бұрын
That was excellent thanks!
@axisotw3669
@axisotw3669 4 жыл бұрын
Where can we buy the sine bar? Not seeing them on your site. And where can we get the drawings for the adjustable v blocks?
@CafeenMan
@CafeenMan 4 жыл бұрын
At the beginning where you're talking about moving the part, I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm a model-builder and often make hatches that have a screw in each of the corners. So you have to know when to flip the part and when to rotate the part so that the holes are symmetrical. If the hole isn't the exact same distance from both edges then if you only rotate the part then you get a spiral sort of drill pattern and not a symmetrical drill pattern. I'm guessing that's what you did in regard to " ask me how I know".
@somebodyelse6673
@somebodyelse6673 4 жыл бұрын
Also gotta be able to trust your ability to square the part properly, if you're going to reference different corners. (Or maintain symmetry if your part has other than square corners). You can't rely on DRO to make interior features symmetrical with one reference corner, then machine the profile to the reference as well.
@crossbowhunter9118
@crossbowhunter9118 4 жыл бұрын
What is the difference between a center drill and a spotting drill? Which is better? When would you use a spotting drill and when would you use a center drill?
@somebodyelse6673
@somebodyelse6673 4 жыл бұрын
A center drill is most commonly referring to the drill used in lathe work, for putting a 60 degree cone in one end for a lathe tailstock center (it has that 'pilot hole' to make a reservoir for lube, a legacy feature for the Old Skool 'dead' centers that did NOT spin with the workpiece. They are used because they are cheap, rigid, and generally laying around in handfuls at a busy shop. As an example: www.grainger.com/category/machining/drilling-and-holemaking/countersinks-center-drills-spotting-drills/center-drills A spotting drill is designed specifically for spotting. Design features include a deliberately short flute length, to maintain as much resistance to deflection / flex as possible. They often have 120 included angle tips, so that when you follow up with a common 118 degree twist drill, the center of that drill contacts the work before the vulnerable outer corners of the cutting edge. Many a drill (particularly inexpensive ones) have had chunks of those corners torn off by using a little too aggressive downfeed. Real spotting drills should not be used for making holes, as you can see chip removel quickly becomes a problem. It's not much of a risk to use a center drill for the purpose of spotting, provided you take care when starting the twist drill. Don't shock load it, but make a habit of getting the the chip to an appropriate thickness (say 2 to 5 thou), as fast as you are comfortable with. That habit will greatly help you from ruining drills and parts, by minimizing 'rubbing' the cutting edge rather than taking an actual cut. Rubbing generates excessive heat, which can work harden materials like stainless and even some carbon steels, promotes welding the base material to the drill, and cause the hole to cut oversize. As an example: www.grainger.com/category/machining/drilling-and-holemaking/countersinks-center-drills-spotting-drills/spotting-drills IMO, the only good reason to use a center drill for spotting, is convenience. There are some tricks to choosing drills for spotting. When making threaded holes, if you make your 'spot' a little bit larger than the outer diameter of the thread, it can serve as the chamfer for starting a tap. You can do a similar thing if your hole needs to be countersunk (typically for a flat head fastener). Choose a spotting drill tip angle the same as the angle required by the fastener head. Spot and countersink in one operation. You may even have to 'pre-spot' with a flat bottom, center cutting end mill when you have to drill on rounded or sloping surfaces, then spot drill on the flat, perpendicular surface you just made.
@paulbadger6336
@paulbadger6336 4 жыл бұрын
Somebody else, very well explained. Now if more people would read your comment.
@crossbowhunter9118
@crossbowhunter9118 4 жыл бұрын
somebody else so a spotting drill is used on a mill and a center drill is used on a lathe?
@buckshot0203
@buckshot0203 4 жыл бұрын
This is making me wish I had my machines right now (on order)
@bobvines00
@bobvines00 4 жыл бұрын
Tom, did you make the little machinist's vice that you held the nuts with?
@jeroen-surf
@jeroen-surf 4 жыл бұрын
Love it!!
@freemanfreed1581
@freemanfreed1581 4 жыл бұрын
so with boring bar and angular cutter we can cut radii?? but how can we adjust radius??
@dustinmasters9239
@dustinmasters9239 4 жыл бұрын
I too use the elastic parallel retention device. 😂
@buckstarchaser2376
@buckstarchaser2376 4 жыл бұрын
What is the type of drill bit used at 3:24?
@johncornell2214
@johncornell2214 4 жыл бұрын
how do you buy your 5 inch sine plate attachment? Thx for the video's!
@leejones9827
@leejones9827 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if anyone did manage to find those sine bars available for purchase?
@markRTFGuns
@markRTFGuns 4 жыл бұрын
Hay. Where can I find the print for this tool ? Thank you. I’m going to look over the video again to make sure I didn’t miss you telling me. Lol 😆 great video by the way.
@felixar90
@felixar90 4 жыл бұрын
Could always us a FUN-879 screw for holes counterbored on the wrong side (Actually for countersink)
@willi-fg2dh
@willi-fg2dh 4 жыл бұрын
clever . . . inertial tapping.
@markowen7164
@markowen7164 4 жыл бұрын
Just want to say what was that add at the beginning of you video about? But the real inquiry about. Where can I get that little vice from? Mark. A vertual machinist. Vicarious. If you will. Can't afford A lathe or a mill. Just to have hands on a small. Masinest tool. M
@zordichstach
@zordichstach 4 жыл бұрын
looked this up too... www.shars.com/products/workholding/vise/precision-toolmakers-insert-vise-1 no affiliation, i dont own many tools from Shars.
@robwigglezz944
@robwigglezz944 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone know where to find his sine bars for sale? His website doesn't show them.
@ccamen
@ccamen 4 жыл бұрын
www.mscdirect.com/browse/tn/Measuring-Inspecting/Calibration-Layout-Machine-Setup-Tools/Layout-Setup-Tools/Sine-Bars?navid=12107956
@somebodyelse6673
@somebodyelse6673 4 жыл бұрын
@@ccamen - I think he wants one that Tom had lasered out, with the logo and all. It seems like a modest fundraiser, like Keith's t-slot cleaners. Something to buy that would support the channel a bit, not MSC?
@peterbennett1792
@peterbennett1792 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Tom a question from a tradesman at work was 'what is the point of adjustable V blocks?' He told me the point of V blocks is to have a pair that are identical? I just told him that your an epic tool maker and you probly have a good reason haha. He didnt seem convinced (he is just wondering why I am making them, me being an apprentice and all)
@WAVETUBE84
@WAVETUBE84 4 жыл бұрын
Cool beans.
@AttilaAsztalos
@AttilaAsztalos 4 жыл бұрын
19:00 That's not a repeatable stop though... :)))
@0psi736
@0psi736 4 жыл бұрын
I caught that too! Although I burnt to many brain cells working it out in my head over and over just to be sure.
@wlogue
@wlogue 4 жыл бұрын
And how do I know? I heard about it one time! Than,s Tom, taker easy, Will
@zedo5851
@zedo5851 4 жыл бұрын
"It's never happened to me and I hope it never happens again"
@mausball
@mausball 4 жыл бұрын
"Trust me because I've screwed up" The master has failed more times than the student has tried.
@billyc2572
@billyc2572 4 жыл бұрын
The radius of your "annular" cutter would have been more than enough to achieve what your boring jig setup did. Why did you setup for a whole extra operation?
@laiquocbao2565
@laiquocbao2565 4 жыл бұрын
for surface finish and accuracy, I think. Just like drilling then boring then reaming, while boring can actually give and acceptable accuracy and straightness, you still need to ream it in order to have a smooth surface. Or maybe he just want to do it in that way because that is a training project, lol.
@Proverbhouse
@Proverbhouse 4 жыл бұрын
Where do we go to get the oxtool sine bar?
@youcoulduseit7492
@youcoulduseit7492 4 жыл бұрын
See there, thats just enough fixture and angle gauge use . For one episode. "How am I gonna cut that compound angle" Oh ya that swival base thingy I bought with the vise. there's some real brain teaser's there. Often wondered if round slot milling could be done like that . Like your trick with rounding the ends on bar strap/ a drilled hole
@joell439
@joell439 4 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@89sirmonk
@89sirmonk 4 жыл бұрын
@oxtoolco where would i go to get those laser cut sin bars? not seeing them on your website.
@waynepegram3262
@waynepegram3262 4 жыл бұрын
And don't try to power tap with a single phase unit (lathe/mill). It won't reverse until the motor has almost stopped (start windings reconnect). That's right, it keeps on going forward and you now have a 2 piece tap??? Ask ME how I know.
@josephwilson6651
@josephwilson6651 4 жыл бұрын
We did the exact same procedures on all our product lines, our manager called it "production line fundamentals". I called it Henry Ford mindless drone repetition.
@454Casull
@454Casull 4 жыл бұрын
Why didn't he countersink before tapping? :(
@rosserpace3602
@rosserpace3602 4 жыл бұрын
Cool
@adavid7901
@adavid7901 4 жыл бұрын
I’d like to purchase a sine bar where can we get one.
@Frostysam44
@Frostysam44 4 жыл бұрын
Where do you buy the signbar?
@sickandtiredofcomplaining6574
@sickandtiredofcomplaining6574 4 жыл бұрын
that little vise is a ⚓️
@davesalzer3220
@davesalzer3220 4 жыл бұрын
That damn Chingas
@aerogfs
@aerogfs 4 жыл бұрын
So... how do you know that?
@ehamster
@ehamster 4 жыл бұрын
Given that the angle was calculated using trig and the two dimensions of a triangle (arctan), you could have skipped that trig and the sine bar trig to come up with your stack up directly from the drawing dimensions with Pythagoras. No need to even know the angle.
@bluedeath996
@bluedeath996 4 жыл бұрын
You don't learn unless you screw up, and you can't screw up unless you attempt the project.
@EVguru
@EVguru 4 жыл бұрын
Welded HSS. All of the "If you get HSS too hot when grinding, you'll ruin the temper" people just had their world view shattered. Except that they'll probably dismiss it as "fake news", because unlearning out of date information goes against their fundamental view of self.
@excession777
@excession777 4 жыл бұрын
Triffic stuff, Tom.
@curtisvonepp4335
@curtisvonepp4335 4 жыл бұрын
PEACHE KEEN SO FAR TOM 👍🙊
@exdime
@exdime 4 жыл бұрын
MmmmOkay your the 3D MR Mackey apparantly
@Kevork79
@Kevork79 4 жыл бұрын
when you just said cemetry.... just reading my mind
@duane4665
@duane4665 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing I hate about Tom's videos is......... They are to short!
@fenrisulfur666
@fenrisulfur666 4 жыл бұрын
The Master has made more mistakes than the apprentice has attempts.
@glfarwell
@glfarwell 4 жыл бұрын
After 45 years, I know this to be true. The true test, is how can you recover from that "learning moment"/?
@DJhenderlong
@DJhenderlong 4 жыл бұрын
wow never tapped in high gear like that. ha
@AWDJRforYouTube
@AWDJRforYouTube 4 жыл бұрын
2nd comment
@kennymarto1316
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