Top 10 BEST Riot Shield Counters in Modern Warfare III!

The Riot Shield in Call of Duty is often hated by many in the community so today, I wanted to share my top 10 best counters to riot shield users in Modern Warfare III. What are your thoughts on the current state of the riot shield and its counters in MWIII?
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0:00 Intro
0:48 Best Close Range Counters
3:25 Best Ranged Counters
5:41 What Else Can Work?
6:56 What DOESN'T Work?
8:22 Wrap Up

[@bioforce5]

I have a dedicated anti-riotshield build I switch to anytime somebody is using one. I'm running the underbarrel drill launcher on my primary, soulrender as my secondary, Demolition vest with shock sticks and thermites, and then the ammo box so I can keep restocking as needed. In the vast majority of cases the riot shielder eventually gets so annoyed by me hard countering them that they just switch to another class lol.

[@martybarrett523]

Same here, it’s so satisfying to piss them off

[@maxeliotttovar]

That's a genuine shield-hater build!

[@littlebadassgaming]

You switching your loadout is just asking the enemies to knock you out cuz your loadouts focused on one single guy vs the other 4 guys on their team

[@r.j.bedore9884]

I have a similar setup with a hipfire SMG build using that breacher device that improves hipfire, but I swap the Bruen Bastion underbarrel for the flamethrower. I used to use the RGL as my secondary, but now I usually use the Soul Render. Same demolition vest, shock sticks, and thermites.

[@kittydurgon8740]

Same. Sometimes I use thr medieval setup of Sticks n Stones. Boombolts, muni, soul render, thermites, restock, shocks, and then the standard gear setup for Boots,Gloves,Others. Jugg counter? Drills, Riot shield resupply. Drills, unless changed, do the MOST DAMAGE overall. Dbl stick. Riotshield negates their entire setup. And because they are slower than average, you can keep distance really easily. Even while crouched.

[@jayb.3592]

I just wish armor piercing rounds worked feel like it really should

[@Deathmare235]

Nah it’d be too powerful

[@DevlVergil]

This would make Riot Shields completely useless while having almost zero drawbacks.

[@jayb.3592]

@@DevlVergil true true

[@jacobm2625]

@@Deathmare235nah, doing 50% damage or less through the shield is reasonable

[@artemas9336]

@@DevlVergilI see that as a complete win😁

[@LA_Designer]

99% of the time I semtex them and then they start chasing you 😂

[@OscarMartinez-jd8gd]

This is why I go with the thermite. If they start chasing you, it won’t cause you to die most of the time

[@Crimson_Fatalis]

"if I die, you're coming down with me"

[@captainnemo5379]

This is my preferred method.

[@MiketheNerdRanger]

They die before they ever reach me 😂

[@davimuniz1469]

I'll always *exclusively* run the Thermite, It causes a LOT of damage,, and It pierces Riot Shields.

[@MattHealey.]

Thermite and ugl drill charges lol

[@poordude21]

Thermites are practically useless against anyone not using a riot shield tho

[@davimuniz1469]

@@poordude21 you clearly don't know the feeling of throwing a thermite on someone, and the thermite kills the person before the person has killed you. It's like, "If i'm dying, you're coming with me"

[@Crimson_Fatalis]

​@@poordude21if you stick or get a thermite near someone it kills faster than my dad leaving to get the milk

[@Tempessta]

I have a specific class with the shock charge, Semtex, and flamethrower for when I encounter teams of multiple shields in SnD. Works like a charm and they usually back out.

[@UnatMar]

The IW devs obsession with adding a invincible riot shield to a arcade shooter needs to be studied

[@user-tr2mb4xs7i]

I refuse to believe a handheld metal sheet can stop 50cals

[@TheGumpyGump]

@@user-tr2mb4xs7ior an RPG lol

[@yungmonsterxs8929]

It's never been hard to counter. The game gives you plenty to use, since the inception, and not enough reason to fail countering a literal turtle shell.

[@sonfgodla5508]

That and many baffling decions they made with all of MW2

[@maxeliotttovar]

Or direct impact rockets

[@OscarMartinez-jd8gd]

My favorite counter is the thermite since it’s fast, you can throw it from a distance, and you can still use it for objectives if needed. They still need to think of a way to nerf turtling though

[@overnow]

Personally I'd just remove it from the game. Assuming that isn't an option I would make it so overkill and gunner are not selectable and limit the choice of secondary weapons to the handguns, no melee and no launchers. Of all of the scenarios including the turtle pack the one I find least irritating is it + pistols since they generally use the pistols and in most scenarios that having a pistol for your ranged weapon is a notable disadvantage (maybe not hardcore or with akimbo revolvers on Shipment) I think I would also be fine with a scenario where the shield has some kind of health meter and when that meter depletes it auto swaps the shielder to their secondary and prevents them from swapping back for some amount of time. Oh and it should disable prone entirely, even on the back.

[@pax1217]

​@@overnowMake it deployable, when you have it in your back, it will be retracted, so no protection at all. When you want to use it, it deploys and protects you as normal. That way turtling is dead for good without removing the shield

[@Denilius123]

@@pax1217 but turtling isnt the main issue tho, its much worse coming up against someone crouching their way through the entire map or sitting in corner. is it not?

[@michaelthomas6138]

I tend to load with a Semtex but if there’s a riot shield crouching person on the game I change to a thermite next death. Works lovely. :)

[@zerocharity1999]

Crazy how y’all cry about riot shields when there are many ways to kills us literally the sun in the game makes it hard for us to see and yet y’all will cry throughout the whole game like we are using hacks or something.

[@Real_American_DAD]

Excellent info. Very helpful. Thank you ace !

[@HellDemonKyoKurosaki]

I feel like if they made it so when you put the shield on your back, it folds, and a lot of people's complains would disappear. I would personally have it fold up like it is in the gunsmith screen. Once you switch, it opens up like a deployable cover, and then when you unequip it, it folds up so it doesn't give you that back protection or at least not as much.

[@JoeBloggs-oj7gi]

Oh stop whingeing and get over it mate, stop looking for shortcuts haha

[@pmizz7959]

I think it’s fine other than the turtle effect when it’s on their back. Trying to shoot their feet with how little damage leg shots provide can be frustrating on smaller maps like shipment where you quickly need to move onto other targets

[@tahmidulamin8350]

Couldn't click on the video fast enough. So annoying coming across turtles in SND.

[@CalebMay-bf1ci]

Theres plenty of counters

[@dannylion69xxx97]

Womp womp

[@zerocharity1999]

@@CalebMay-bf1cithat’s what I’m saying but they still find a way to cry about it

[@commitgit5889]

Did you try having the person with the riot shield swap weapons after being stuck with the drill charge?

[@user-zb7ni6hg3e]

Yes, when you do this, there's a moment where the drill explosion direction isn't facing the character, so the enemies won't die.

[@YTKizuki]

very informative!

[@aaronharris102]

Flamethrower is a decent one too. It’s not as quick as the lethal grenades but is more forgiving if you miss. It also makes them panic/throws them off which is nice

[@echotapout183]

I think when throw the drill charge at a riot shield when they put it behind there back sometimes It doesn’t get the kill

[@Meravokas]

My biggest issue is with people running it on their backs still. And I don't always even mean on the enemy team (Though it sucks having to spray their legs if you're chasing them.) since they still haven't changed the factor of it acting as a non surface for teammates as well. On top of being a pain in the ass to see around, if you're in a situation where they spawn, run ahead or are simply ahead of you in general. You can end up wasting shots that ping off their riot shield while trying to go for either the same guy or someone next to them. I've gotten stack killed in corridors because I couldn't hit a guy in front of because of that shield. The Riot shield is annoying to go up against sure enough, but we've never had a shortage of things to kill them with. Or at least a lethal piece of equipment that hasn't been adored by the general player base as much as the Semtex. For me it's just controller breaking frustration when someone's running it primarily on their back on your own team. I cannot express it properly.

[@dooder126]

I feel you. It’s an absolute crutch. Almost grinds my gears as much as crowding choke points. Like gtfo of my way.

[@Meravokas]

@@dooder126 The choice of adding player collision sometime MW2019 and MW2 baffles me in the first place. I don't remember it being present in 2019 or Cold War. I skipped Vanguard. I also don't really see the point of playing "Turtle" I did it for a while when I did nothing but shipment because I was bored and just wanted to grind out my tokens in MW2, but I didn't feel like I actually died any less with it than without it so I ditched it. Especially after the frustrations I found myself feeling from other people doing the same. Player collision on teammates is just... It's a good thing you can eventually nudge people around, otherwise people would be able to actively grief teams and just trap people places. But yeah there's no good reason for team level player collision to be in game, or at least in core modes.

[@jwhowa0379]

It's just great when you spawn in behind someone running the shield, either door camping or AFK, inside one of the containers on shipment. Always fun to try and bunny hop your way out before someone tosses in a thermite.

[@peterz2160]

Thanks Ace, a video that needed doing! I'd like to see some gameplay of you jumping around the back of them and shooting them no counter. I try but due most of the time😂 I've seen some good players able to do this effectively. Keep up the fantastic content 💯

[@bo-dg3bh]

thanks for the extensive list. i personally don’t mind them tho unless it’s a whole shield squad

[@Van88E]

we need a bigger riot shield with flash bang lights in front haha

[@JackLeftTown427]

Didn’t they have that in a game?

[@Van88E]

@JackLeftTown427 it's only in rainbow 6 sadly

[@Zack-dw5op]

Nice I've actually been using the underbarrel drill launcher since wz2. I just love the extra utility and 3+ extra lethals

[@OrigenalDarkMew]

My favorite is the drill charge underbarrel launcher. I always have that on my ARs when I'm in Search if I know theres a shielder. It's great for both up close and at range and it's never failed me.

[@seesidesummerhouse6112]

Riot shield is so situational, it’s honestly so easy to counter. Sometimes they’ll have you beat if you’re cornered, but that’s their W if they get you there.

[@XO_Keo]

I'd like to add that if you're using the Katt AMR it is a one shot everywhere. You aiming at them puts the fear of God inside of them. Especially in SND

[@xenogenisys]

They need to buff the Crossbow. In MWII IT WAS A ONE HIT KILL with both thermite and explosive tips.

[@ToddSweeney341]

Just Subscribed 🙂

[@hamza-chaudhry]

Going on from your video the other day about which attachments to favourite, would you recommend the underbarrel drill charge that you can pop on when you go against a riot shield user?

[@Tigliz12]

My concern is the overall movement speed of riot shield users. Seems they have the same speed as those creepy knifers which reminds me of creepy skateboarders. I’m not sure of the riot shield movement penalty if exist bcos I do not use it. I do know I can not run away from them and I always get caught and bashed from behind.

[@DA-lp4rh]

running away is the worst - that's how you get hit with a throwing knife by them....i do it all the time

[@Mattsawesomeness]

The running speed nerf is only for when the riot shield is on someones back

[@Tigliz12]

Thanks.

[@mattm9069]

thermite is my favorite. I keep it on all the time

[@matthewleiva1933]

That Lachmann sub looks like so much work to use 💀

[@Simon_Hawkshaw]

Thanks for these insights and the underbarrel drill charge will be certainly tested out against these pesky turtles.

[@r.j.bedore9884]

Ace, I know in MWII that the drill charge didn't initially work against the riot shield and it took them a while to fix it, so maybe one of the patches since then reintroduced a bug for some people. The Crossbow with explosive or thermite tipped bolts was my favorite riot shield counter in both MW2019 and MWII, but I haven't tried it in MWIII. It used to only require one bolt in those games so maybe the health increase in MWIII had the unintended consequence of those no longer doing enough damage to kill through a shield, and that might be yet another bug they need to fix. My current favorite counters are the two underbarrel attachments you mentioned, being the underbarrel flamethrower and drill charge.

[@bruceharrison9308]

This is why I miss the Molotov, it never failed me again riot sheilders

[@baseballmastero5853]

my idea for a nerf: a 75% movement reduction when on the back, and the same mobility when stunned when it is held in hand

[@merlebyu1]

I like the soulrender. I usually use thermite. I didn’t know of the flame thrower. I may try the drill charge launcher too. I have tried breacher drones, but they don’t seem to kill much of anything lately.

[@joshtheking1772]

Testing is great. Good job. Flamethrower underbarrel is by far the best. You dont even have to stop moving.

[@billwhipple9039]

Everyone who uses a gun thinks shields shouldn't be in the game. It makes you play out of your comfort zone

[@curioplays]

I put the riot shield on because it somewhat negates the prevalence of wall hackers and aim bots. You can basically tell when someone is aimbotting if they are melting your whole team but have no idea how to counter a player that doesn't die when they make eye contact with them, because they aren't actually good at the game and can't strategize. No lie tho, I love clipping gamer rage. It kinda just feels like people want to turn their brains off to play this game and get really angry when you force them to think beyond arcade shooting. I don't think I've been killed by someone else with a riot shield more than a handful of times.

[@dillonc7955]

I feel shotgun bolo rounds should have the added effect of doing damage through shields or at least stunning through shields. The ammo type is god awful and need some form of a buff. Right now there's zero point of using them and honestly the Longbow and BASB conversion make better shotguns with how balancing has been lately...

[@mjfj82]

No gun should be able to just shoot through a riot shield.

[@ricky.g7528]

Crossbow with explosive tips ❤

[@GatecrasherUA]

On the other note, never forget that if they have a shield on your back and you are close behind them, you can just execute them. It can't always be done successfully, but it's better than shooting/hitting at that shield endlessly if you're close to them.

[@powerg3824]

I think they need to nerf the shield swap speed when changing to weapons and throwables

[@mjfj82]

The riot shield is already punishing enough.

[@jolbertti7421]

No its not? ​@@mjfj82

[@powerg3824]

@mjfj82 Most of these counters ace talk about are neutralized because they run trophy systems and trying to melee a shield is not easy unless the shield player is an absolute bot. So you are forced to run the sword and then if you do they just swap to throwing knife.

[@jolbertti7421]

@@powerg3824 this is main reason why they should just take riots out of the game

[@peppermintsynth3151]

​@@jolbertti7421 if you still can't counter it, might want to look into other game options

[@pxlzer0]

Usually when stuck with a drill charge, if a shield swaps to his secondary as the charge is igniting the charge will ignore the player and won't kill them in one shot, especially if they use E.O.D. Padding. You'll get the hitmarker for it but will need to do more damage.

[@moon-doggiegaming7302]

Molotov is also useful similar to thermites. Comes out fast making it hard for them to react and has other utility like Area denial.

[@chrisbutler1221]

The good ole Semtex and run works perfectly for me 😂

[@ahmedabrahim4603]

Ace is the best CoD YTer

[@SG5fzZ]

Nah merkmusic is ace is second

[@TheRealZookness]

Another reason the thermite is GOAT is because its also an AoE effect to ANY enemy operators in the radius. I am absolute trash with frags and semtex so I just always run thermite, I get a little happy when I see a riot shield in one of my lobbies. :)

[@cobeyEMT23]

In custom games, how do you get the other players to armor plates in when you add plates to the game usually only the maker of the game can put plates.

[@batsukamuro]

Of the 3 throwables, thermite > drill charge > Semtex. I’ve only had one drill charge fail. If I’m going full counter, I’ll run thermite with shock sticks.

[@1delta10tango9]

It's the flamethrower for me. It tickles me when I'm getting called all kinds of slurs in post game from the riot shield users LOL

[@bagl7833]

I've died while doing the soul render heavy attack on a riot shield. They threw a throwing knife as the animation was going through which is bs

[@CalebMay-bf1ci]

Same once i was mad

[@mani21axe40]

I just have a designated crossbow class with explosive tips, and since I run on HC, I never have any problems. I just wish running fmj rounds would allow you to shoot through it.

[@DeoxTew]

Me dealing with a constant riot shield player: aight, time to bring out my underbarrel surprise surgery charge.

[@frozentiger2175]

The underbarrel drill charge is also great for people camping in sniping spots

[@austinjordan8308]

Hmmm. Completely unrelated but Sledge should add an armored vest that lets you use plates. Would give a good incentive to have an Armor Piercing field upgrade or ammunition class

[@FAVOURITEBRO]

I hope they do more front animation melee weapon kills. Not just for utility but for the aesthetic

[@cipherpac]

AP rounds attachment should allow you to deal 15% damage to a riot shield, and the AP rounds field upgrade shpuld let you do full damage through the shield, since like Ace says, its rarely used, and it also requires you to go through a reload animation to activate it on your weapon.

[@carbonclaw7280]

I think they could turn the shield into more of a cosmetic when it's on your back. It'd still be there but wouldn't block bullets. Far as the front, I think there needs to be a health bar to it or a limited time use, like limited ammo on a firearm. Best counter is Thermite by a mile for sure. The AOE of the thermite alone makes it better than the semtex and drill charge. Also, I saw a comment about stopping power rounds and that's a good idea. An ammo type that can break through the shield would be nice. Probably would have to be a limited field upgrade. Edit: a bigger movement penalty while it's not being used it extremely necessary. Force the knifers and meleers in general to watch their back.

[@MellowVibesRadio]

The two issues I have with the riot shield is people getting free armor on their backs, and the speed they can just throw a throwing knife at you.

[@JoeBloggs-oj7gi]

Oh stop whingeing will you lol i use the shield all the time. Stop looking for shortcuts haha

[@MellowVibesRadio]

@@JoeBloggs-oj7gi "stop looking for shortcuts" says the guy who needs a crutch like armor on his back lol

[@JoeBloggs-oj7gi]

@@MellowVibesRadio haha. You know it's funny, everyone always uses METAs (guns) but barely anyone uses shields. I wonder why that is 🥲

[@LiveTUNA]

The underbarrel drill charge is my go to if I'm not using thermite.

[@LiveTUNA]

I wrote this comment before you even mentioned it, thinking you forgot about it 😂

[@IAmMadMattDog]

flamethrower actually a good tip, i run semtex on every class since its also almost always a good lethal so i never usually have issues

[@FromWitchSide]

The 2 crossbow bolts, must be new/MW3 thing, as I racked a lot of kills on shields in MW2 and one bolt was always 100% enough.

[@JamesWaston]

I don't know about you guys, but i consider the gas grenade almost useless in most of the cases... maybe a slight buff to it would be forcing riot shied users to expose themselves a little bit just like the shock charge does

[@eoghanwalsh3937]

Riot shield rpg user here, thanks for the tips

[@medleyfriends9525]

If you get a hit with the thermobaric grenades, you can then get a kill with any explosive ammo, through a shield

[@evilmcfluffin6774]

the cross bow used to kill in one shot i thought? is that something to do with this game having 150 hp or am i just remembering wrong

[@bskumodraz9048]

fast SMG class movement build with smoke tactical and semtex lethal :D

[@maxmustermann8447]

you can change the riot shield with an gun on the ground when you get semtex sticket or stuff then the sticky grenade will sticvk on the shield :D

[@egybecks]

Thermite on MP and close range Warzone & Thermite Crossbow on long range.... I found the Thermite Crossbow very funny by the way, seeing the operator running in fire 😂

[@deathtrooper2048]

I am so sick of riot shields, they always ruin the game.

[@carbonclaw7280]

Agreed.

[@dannylion69xxx97]

Skill issue

[@mattwilson2278]

Bot

[@AliFOJ5]

I just use simtex and soul ender on them. But thermite is a good option as well

[@jaretrobert7158]

I genuinely feel like I should give SLAP rounds to the sniper rifles that have increased penetration capabilities, capable of punching through vehicle armor and riot Shields, but do half damage to unarmored targets due to over penatration when compared to fmj and mono bullets.

[@Dynbear]

Put a riot shield on my compression carrier class and it’s so fun it’s great for me since i play obj and i recover health after capping an objective i usually carry my team with obj time anyway but its a bit more fun adding in the riot shield 😊

[@Withoutmixture]

I don’t know but does that “stormender” weapon work on them?

[@pspcow]

Yes, heavy attack ignores the shield

[@offtheroadoli5189]

This would be a huge video if you did a warzone version.

[@offtheroadoli5189]

Also full blown mage is my favourite 😊

[@FlowKom]

as soon as a melee player is on the enemy team, i switch to a double thermite class. after getting cooked 3 or 4 times, they stop using it

[@tagxevolution]

Its very easy to fix the riot shield in cod, make the top glass breakable ( maybe 500 health ) so they still have 90% of their body covered after it breaks. Buff the crossbow so that they die in one shot again like in mw2. and make all higher caliber bullet piercing rounds actually work against the roit shield. make it do 60% less damage but still they cant just sit in a corner and eat 1k shots from an lmg like nothing happened.

[@y0ungbuddha759]

They should have blocked eod if you have a riot shield on, and should have it like the og cod where the riot shield vision gets messed up when shooting it. And put a perk counter in for eod like they use to have in og games.

[@shaneoscar4561]

Love the feeling of chopping a shield in half with the sword. Most gratifying thing in COD ! Especially when they don’t know and think you’re hacking ! 😆

[@JGROVES716.]

Someone killed me through my shield with a tonfa so apparently they work too

[@jimbozini100]

I would just like one cod without the riot shield. Pretty please.

[@weirdeurasianboy8091]

CW til GW 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Soulfly-BR]

How about a team of riot shield in vondel solo?

[@renegadetx2001]

As an avid riot shield user I’ve countered all these tactics and have won plenty of warzones

[@goldenwolf_gamingYT]

The solution is simple. Make it exclusive to the juggernaut recon and Ace drill charges dont always work it'll go right through them and not do anything since mw2. Private matches isnt always going to yield the same results as public matches for this kind of issue

[@harr6676]

I win 9/10 of my solo wz matches with a shield, you can’t touch 15 years of riot shield experience

[@Denilius123]

One of the fastest times I've ever clicked on a video the second I saw it. I can't wait to watch. Dealing with Shield players is the worst, do those people even have brains or any feeling of fun? Currently I just have a class with Demolition Vest and Thermites as my main Shield counter. EDIT: After watching, I will definitely be making use of the Flamethrower underbarrel attachment more often, maybe a save a custom mod or two. That combined with the thermite will be a great Shield counter class for me!

[@ohitzlighting6681]

The riot sheild is fun for trolling

[@santi_claws]

Its extremely fun using off meta weapons. Different playstyle, different skillset

[@Denilius123]

@@santi_claws I never said I disagree with that, I regularly use the Chimera for nostalgia for the Honey Badger. But the shield is just toxic

[@Denilius123]

@@ohitzlighting6681 how is it fun ruining everone's experience being toxic player? While not performing well urself

[@dannylion69xxx97]

@Denilius123 if you don't how to use one just say that

[@davidphillips9445]

Did you test the Molotov?

[@maksimslhernault4042]

for me i never run the shield unless i need to do a challenge for it or grtind the mastery but after that it goes back into the closet even when i run around with a melee secondary i would rather have a gun as a primary so i can still challenge long range rather than cower behind a shield

[@kamikazex8o8]

Unless they have changed it dropping the riot shield can save you from a stick as long as it was attached to the shield it self And for the “turtles” there all the same outside of two additional things that help killing them are 1st assassinations (that’s why the new sword goes through the shield because it’s works just like them) 2nd the leg crippling rounds due that the legs are usually the only spot available to actually get hits on and the fact they slow and disable them makes it easier to deal with them

[@SUDAGANGTV]

I love the Riot Shield and find it hilarious how ppl complain about it when it has so many counters now and even back in old days! 😂

[@marcelkrijger4534]

Which gun setup do I see for most of the gameplay in this video?

[@andrewsavage6983]

Compare all lethals?

[@GhostWalker-tl5sy]

I hate riots shields but think they should be in the game to give it variety to players, and I think we have plenty of counters to in now although I believe the armor piercing rounds should be added to it

[@pmizz7959]

I think people think the drill charge doesn’t always work is when you hit them they panic and start to run. Then a teammate shoots them before it explodes

[@whattagiordi]

Still need IW to explain me how the riot shield glass can take 200 lmg bullets without problem

[@robanderson5673]

Well, you couldn't really carry a lmg and all the rounds, let alone fire one like we do in COD....

[@Dragoonsoul7878]

Because it is a video game where you respawn after death. A shield which can't do damage outside of melee range and needs multiple hits to kill should tank 200+ bullets since if you have the time to empty this much ammo into them you've had enough time to realize that person is just seeing how smart you are and probably laughing at you since they are just doing nothing.

[@whattagiordi]

@@Dragoonsoul7878 that was for saying that infinite ammo is ridiculous, thank god they nerfed the turtle thing, ok that’s a meele and y have to get very close but making y this hard to kill is stupid. Devs should consider the idea of putting that thing away from CoD, it’s just toxic and pain for camo grinders

[@Dragoonsoul7878]

The more things that completely ignore the riot shield the more likely it will be given the ability to fire a pistol while using it. This will be an interesting outcome, hated, but interesting.

[@Blue-cq2hl]

I'm laughing at this video because it's always been easy to counter and I only dislike it for the turtle thing. Yet everyone seems to act like they're the worst thing in the game... If you play with them you'll easily find the counters too because people are gonna use them on you lol

[@TheRickyG67]

yea drill charge doesn't always work dkw, you get the 'stuck' award pop up ... just no kill

[@truthdog1107]

EOMM

[@bbobson2k]

I use the drill charge almost exclusively (unless a daily challenge, etc.) for grenades or semtex. I can confirm that in some occasions the drill charge doesn't kill at least in MP. About 2% spitballing it and have just assumed they have EOD or just a bug. What drives me nuts is with the turtle backs on my team who block my shots, i.e., can't shoot through the riot shield on their back. The frustration is the drill charge, i.e., can throw it right through their turtle back riot shield. Doesn't make sense as it blocks regular shots but not lethals. Bug?

[@truthdog1107]

EOMM. The game is rigged. You can even die to being shot through the front of your shield 😮

[@REexpert44]

Did they take Mollys out of MW3? In MW1 and 2 those were my go to for turtle killing

[@Ajm72411]

I think the options are pretty good if a bit unique. Wish I needed them, but haven’t played MP in months due to the weird “memory error” issue or whatever it is. I get 1 game, no lag, no issues, then at the scoreboard screen it says system error and kicks me to the startup. Then it almost always happens every game. I play zombies, and I can play 3+ games with 0 issue. Just gotta go where the game play is stable :/