Top 10 Historically Inaccurate Details in Disney Movies

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@MsMojo
@MsMojo Жыл бұрын
Which historical inaccuracy stood out to you in Disney movies? Let us know below, and be sure to also check out our video of the Top 10 Historically Accurate Details in Disney Movies - kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIfUeaN-ebB-hM0
@aleph9006
@aleph9006 Жыл бұрын
As native american, Matoaka is a part of our history. I've also realized because of what ACTUALLY happened Disney will probably NEVER make a live action version of this one.
@nicolelengyel9766
@nicolelengyel9766 Жыл бұрын
Msmojo how is Anastasia not even an honorable mention?!?? I usually agree but that was a ridiculous oversight
@aleph9006
@aleph9006 Жыл бұрын
@@nicolelengyel9766 probably because Anastasia isn't Disney. It's 20th century Fox. This video is only talking about Disney movies.
@nicolelengyel9766
@nicolelengyel9766 Жыл бұрын
@@aleph9006 ooops 🤦🏻‍♀️ well that’s embarrassing . I was wondering how that could’ve been off the list. I guess just because it’s cartoon, doesn’t mean it’s Disney
@MrAnthonydemesa
@MrAnthonydemesa Ай бұрын
@@nicolelengyel9766 Well Disney now owns Anastasia and Fox.
@sarahkimberley9375
@sarahkimberley9375 Жыл бұрын
I've never gone into a Disney movie thinkin it was going to be historically accurate. I watch them cause they're fun 💙
@ChibiProwl
@ChibiProwl Жыл бұрын
Ditto. At 41, I still love these movies.💙😌
@jamessparkman6604
@jamessparkman6604 Жыл бұрын
@@ChibiProwl Trust me historical accuracy can be such a killjoy
@ChibiProwl
@ChibiProwl Жыл бұрын
@@jamessparkman6604 yep. If Pocahontas was historically accurate it’d be very sad. If Hercules was accurate it’d scar the kids.
@Manglethefox238
@Manglethefox238 Жыл бұрын
Same.
@dustinbollnow6391
@dustinbollnow6391 Жыл бұрын
Same here @Sarah Kimberley. I like these stories from Disney just the way they are. Disney's Pocahontas is a fun story and in my opinion a "What If" story. Same goes for Hercules. Overall, Disney movies are awesome just like they are.
@wak773
@wak773 Жыл бұрын
racism was hinted at in the movie. "a little woman of your 'background'" it could also explain why the shadow man wanted all that wealth and power.
@Cons_88
@Cons_88 Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@Cons_88
@Cons_88 Жыл бұрын
Racism, sexism, and classism.
@heavenkelley5608
@heavenkelley5608 Жыл бұрын
my question is why she wouldnt be able to marry naveen if he is black himself?
@andrealee1882
@andrealee1882 Жыл бұрын
@@heavenkelley5608 according to Disney wiki , he’s Indian (and yea they were white washed into thinking they aren’t black 😅)
@Cons_88
@Cons_88 Жыл бұрын
@heaven kelley I know it's only animation and it's open to interpretation- but I'd presume Naveen is Indian, judging by the name and appearance. The world isn't only black and white... Eventhough these archaic, colour connotation terms themselves mean very little ethnically in 21st century anyway.
@DonovanOliver
@DonovanOliver Жыл бұрын
I agree. Dinosaur may be underrated for a Disney film, but it’s been my uplifting childhood movie growing up in the 2000s. Although Lemurs don’t coexist with Dinos which is possible that they come right after the extinction of Dinos, it’s still wonderful.
@nancyomalley6286
@nancyomalley6286 Жыл бұрын
#2. You talked about 'Ignoring racism' yet showed those two men talking about Tiana's "Background" and denying her the chance to open the restaurant! So, racism was NOT ignored!
@emilygodwin4480
@emilygodwin4480 Жыл бұрын
Yes, but still, I think she was referring to the fact that it was the only time racism was addressed at all, and the movie largely does not depict what it was like during segregation.
@Furienna
@Furienna Жыл бұрын
​@@emilygodwin4480 Sure, but I don't think that it was what the movie was going to be about either. "Pocahontas" and "The Hunchback of Notre-Dame" are the only two Disney movies to directly deal with racism, I think.
@behindthescenesphotos5133
@behindthescenesphotos5133 Жыл бұрын
"She was taken to England and later married John Rolfe?" Speaking of historical inaccuracies, thirty seconds of research shows she married John Rolfe in 1614, and they went to England in 1616. Thirty seconds. She was taken captive in an attempt to get the return of captured colonists and stolen weapons from her father during the First Anglo-Powhatan War. Her father didn't fully hold up his end of the bargain and she chose to stay with the colonists afterwards, saying he valued the weapons more than her. The same as some colonists chose to live among the Indians, some Indians chose to live among the new settlers. Some people can't accept she chose to stay with the settlers, chose Christianity, chose the name "Rebecca," and chose to marry John Rolfe. I really wish she wrote a book about her experiences, because people keep making up claims to push a one-note victim narrative that's unquestioningly accepted by people who want that to be the truth, perpetually muddying the waters. They just want to cry about that "poor little Indian girl," and vilify everyone who arrived by boat, regardless of the facts. Read about the real Governor Ratcliffe and consider how the movie depicted him; he was so eager to keep good relations with the Indians he overtraded, creating supply shortages for his own men. His party was ambushed and captured while making a trading expedition, he was tied to a stake and skinned alive while being slowly burnt. Even the people who know the movie's largely fiction assume the historical Ratcliffe was some kind of villain because it fits their desired narrative.
@ericgjovaag7958
@ericgjovaag7958 Жыл бұрын
I've always said that all the problems with "Pocahontas" could be solved very simply with a name change: "The Legend of Pocahontas".
@盧璘壽로인수
@盧璘壽로인수 Жыл бұрын
so basically in the same vein of "Ruyi's Royal Love in the Palace" (originally "Legend of Ruyi"), which is about the Step Empress of Qianlong Emperor
@Rui_and_Kinger_Ultra_Fan
@Rui_and_Kinger_Ultra_Fan Жыл бұрын
And the name change from John Smith to John Rolfe ,because Pocahontas’ love interest was never John Smith
@bessieburnet9816
@bessieburnet9816 Жыл бұрын
It would not
@ericgjovaag7958
@ericgjovaag7958 Жыл бұрын
@@bessieburnet9816 Okay, maybe "solved" is too strong a word. "Lessened"?
@Daniel_Huffman
@Daniel_Huffman Жыл бұрын
There was a horrific animated film from 1999 that did just that. It was called _La Leggenda del Titanic,_ Italian for _The Legend of the Titanic,_ and oh my gods, that film is literally the worst _Titanic_ film ever put to screen, and it’s not just bad in terms of historical accuracy, but also AS A FILM. And it gets WORSE with context.
@pap64
@pap64 Жыл бұрын
Video starts off with "Robin Hood" and my mind says "Well of course Robin Hood is inaccurate! There were no anthropomorphic animals in medieval England!".
@fromthehaven94
@fromthehaven94 Жыл бұрын
Or talking dinner table settings, like in Beauty and the Beast.
@michaelpalmieri7335
@michaelpalmieri7335 Жыл бұрын
Another inaccuracy in Disney's "Robin Hood" is that even though the setting is England in the days of King Richard I, the only characters who speak with British accents are Robin Hood (who's a fox) and King John (a lion), whereas most of the other characters talk like American Southerners! (Except for a few of the child characters who definitely have the voices of American children) Britishers talking like AMERICAN SOUTHERNERS? WTF??? I mean, it's supposed to be the story of Robin Hood, not a rerun of "The Beverly Hillbillies" or "Green Acres"! Why, even the animated rooster who narrates the film (and sings a few songs while playing a lute like a strolling minstrel of old) is voiced by country singer Tennessee Ernie Ford.
@jasonours6957
@jasonours6957 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelpalmieri7335 rooster sounds like Matthew mcconaughy
@盧璘壽로인수
@盧璘壽로인수 Жыл бұрын
@@fromthehaven94 France was already the culinary capital (as well as the center of refined table manners) since the Renaissance, but that image of the Eifel Tower during "Be My Guest" is what sets me
@Compucles
@Compucles 5 ай бұрын
@@michaelpalmieri7335 Yeah, but they wouldn't be speaking modern English in the first place! Do the accents really matter compared to that?
@matthewcraig6395
@matthewcraig6395 Жыл бұрын
My sister got really irritated with the Beauty and the Beast remake for saying Belle’s mom died of the plague, because that was over by the 18th century.
@Compucles
@Compucles Жыл бұрын
There have been many plagues throughout history, not just the Black/Bubonic Plague. You could technically even count COVID-19 as a plague.
@Compucles
@Compucles 5 ай бұрын
There have been a lot more plagues than just THE Plague AKA the Bubonic plague. Each one was "the plague" for its time. It would be like complaining about someone dying from "the pandemic" while referring to the Spanish flu instead of COVID-19.
@Fusilier7
@Fusilier7 Жыл бұрын
One other thing about Robin Hood, the English accents spoken in the film are quite modern. Prince John, was an Angevin, who would have spoken with a French sounding accent, as for the peasants, the middle English accent would have sounded very Scandinavian, it would have been quite sing-songy similar to the modern Swedish accent.
@kugelweg
@kugelweg Жыл бұрын
That is interesting to know. I did not know this, but it makes sense really. However, Disney wanted to create a movie that was appealing and accessible to modern day children (and adults). Naturally they would choose talent from their fine pool of fine actors who spoke modern English.
@Otaku155
@Otaku155 Жыл бұрын
Actually John would have been a Plantagenet
@pfcpotatoes
@pfcpotatoes Жыл бұрын
Let’s be honest, ANYTHING by Disney was and is to attract children. An educational video this is either way.
@forcewielder2000
@forcewielder2000 Жыл бұрын
And English in the 12th century would have sounded very different from English of the 20th century (when the film was made), and not just because of accents. Think of how many people nowadays find the English in the works of Shakespeare confusing, and he was several centuries *after* Robin Hood's time.
@Ikajo
@Ikajo Жыл бұрын
Swedish accent? We don't have a Swedish accent. There are so many dialects in Sweden almost every region has its own one.
@roseprevost5876
@roseprevost5876 Жыл бұрын
I've said this before-Naveen was a prince, not American, so marrying Tiana wouldn't be a problem.
@ellynmacgregor8210
@ellynmacgregor8210 Жыл бұрын
Plus, despite his comparatively light complexion, he always gave the impression of being at least part African (though, as you point out, NOT American).
@emilygodwin4480
@emilygodwin4480 Жыл бұрын
Yep, I was like, well he ain’t white, so at that time, would not have been acceptable? Lol
@amandapike2477
@amandapike2477 Жыл бұрын
Ugh, Watch Mojo life expectancy wasn't that people died of old age sooner. It was based on averages, heavily based on the fact that there was an extremely high infant mortality rate.
@ellynmacgregor8210
@ellynmacgregor8210 Жыл бұрын
Another factor in the short average life expectancy was that so many young mothers died in childbirth. :(
@arrow_of_ravenclaw5155
@arrow_of_ravenclaw5155 Жыл бұрын
Number one is just Pocahontas Edit: knew it
@bighand1530
@bighand1530 Жыл бұрын
Wow
@KangaKucha
@KangaKucha Жыл бұрын
Can't deny that but at least it's a good love story and not as bad as Legend of Zorro (that isn't Disney but that movie is so off you would really hate it like I do).
@melissacooper8724
@melissacooper8724 Жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised that Pocahontas is on the list! I definitely never watched the movie because of all the inaccuracies.
@KangaKucha
@KangaKucha Жыл бұрын
@@melissacooper8724 well imho it's worth it as a good love story :)
@michaelpalmieri7335
@michaelpalmieri7335 Жыл бұрын
@@melissacooper8724 The biggest inaccuracy in "Pocahontas" is that there's no proof that the legend of the title character begging her father to spare John Smith's life was a true story. While Captain Smith wrote about this incident in his autobiography, he didn't mention it in an earlier version of his book, which means there's a possibility that Smith made up the Pocahontas story as an embellishment of his adventures in the area now called Virginia. We now know that Pocahontas wasn't even her real name, it was her NICKNAME! (It means "playful one" in the language of her tribe.) Yet, generations of Americans (and perhaps, people in other countries) have been taught that this Native American princess's nickname was her REAL NAME! WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH THAT? That would be like saying that Adolf Hitler's actual name really was "Herr Schickelgrubber." (I think that's how it's spelled; if I made a mistake, please let me know.)
@cjlaw0137
@cjlaw0137 Жыл бұрын
Hercules is actually the roman equivilant, Heracles was the greek mythology. Small detail, but it always bothers me that people use the roman spelling to talk about the greek mythology
@thezivzumbo6710
@thezivzumbo6710 Жыл бұрын
My surprise when I heard this was a thing
@georgeray1906
@georgeray1906 Жыл бұрын
Well to be fair both mythologies is commonly known as the Greco Roman Pantheon so it's easy is mistake one for the other.
@TardisNerdGirl
@TardisNerdGirl Жыл бұрын
This is what I came to say. Took Latin in high school and after, this always bothered me lol
@Compucles
@Compucles Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but the name "Hercules" is more well-known among modern people even before the Disney movie, such as with that Hercules TV series with Kevin Sarbo. Of course, I could make a huge list of all the mythical inaccuracies in both the Disney movie and its follow-up TV series, some like the name change and retconning his parentage being understandable, and others making no sense at all as to why the changes were made.
@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n
@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n Ай бұрын
The reason that he was named Heracles in the first place was that his mother and surrogate father were hoping that naming him that would appease Hera, because Heracles means "the glory of Hera"! Obviously, that did not work, given all the shit Hera put him through!
@felicity1877
@felicity1877 Жыл бұрын
Firstly, they're rather animated fairy tales and are also contexted through their inspirations, just like Sleeping Beauty is based on the 19th century ballet and includes that is why waltz (;
@KangaKucha
@KangaKucha Жыл бұрын
I remember when I saw Tarzan in the cinema in 1999. I said then and still believe now, it doesn't follow the book well (read that years before this), but this is Disney so I didn't expect it and the way they did it (like having the ape king forgive Taz before dying) is good stuff. :)
@forcewielder2000
@forcewielder2000 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Disney actually makes a lot of changes, even in completely fictional stories. For example, in the original story by Hans Christian Anderson, the Little Mermaid was supposed to feel sharp jabs of pain in her human feet every time she took a step, and in the end she actually does NOT get the prince and dies. And in Cinderella (the Brothers Grim version), the stepmother at first convinces her older daughters to cut off the heel of her foot in order to get her foot into the slipper, on the argument that she won't need to walk any more after marrying the prince, because she'll have servants to do stuff for her, and somehow the prince fails to notice this until they're on the way back to the palace and Cinderella's animal friends draw his attention to the blood gushing out of the slipper, at which point he turns back to try the slipper on the other stepsister and Cinderella. The stepmother then convinces her younger daughter to cut off her big toe, on the same argument, and again the prince fails to notice until the animals again draw his attention to the blood gushing out of the slipper and he once again turns back. Only then does Cinderella get to try on the slipper and get the prince.
@KangaKucha
@KangaKucha Жыл бұрын
@@forcewielder2000 I know that in Mermaid she dies in the end unfortunately. Heck they change up Hunback of Notra Dame too quite a bit as well. Didn't know that about Cinderella but at least the Disney Villian in that is one hell of one eh? :)
@michaelpalmieri7335
@michaelpalmieri7335 Жыл бұрын
@@KangaKucha *Hunchback
@KangaKucha
@KangaKucha Жыл бұрын
@@michaelpalmieri7335 Sorry mate my spelling sucks.
@ivanacurna6577
@ivanacurna6577 Жыл бұрын
I honestly prefers the Disney version over Burrough's (sorry if I butcher his name) for three reasons: 1. it is more accurate than Burrough's books. For example: Tigers don't live in Africa, Tarzan wouldn't know how to write or read without human's contact/knowledge since grew up only with gorillas 2. It is less prejudiced (it was book of its time, so you can't blame author for that) 3. It shows compassion, somethings that books lack of and it's replaced by fights.
@BanaiFeldstein
@BanaiFeldstein Жыл бұрын
Saying an old man wouldn't be alive because of life expectancy is nonsense. Life expectancy is the average age, not the maximum age. Given how many people died before reaching the age of 1, or how many women died from complications of childbirth, the average came down a lot. But other people had to live to be a lot older to balance out all those young deaths.
@forcewielder2000
@forcewielder2000 Жыл бұрын
An 11-year-old Pocahontas also would have not worn any clothes at that age, due to the customs of her people that children didn't get to wear any. Also, from many historical accounts Captain John Smith was reportedly short, ugly, and not very popular with the men under his command. The movie version of Hercules also omits the detail that in Greek mythology Zeus and Hera were also brother and sister as well as husband and wife, and that Hera was actually the villain more than Hades was, due to her being ticked off over her husband's many infidelities.
@ellynmacgregor8210
@ellynmacgregor8210 Жыл бұрын
Also--and I'm surprised no one has apparently mentioned this detail--there were actually *nine* muses, not five. I hasten to add that, despite this inaccuracy (and some far greater ones, such as Hera being Hercules/Herakles' loving mother instead of his attempted murderer), HERCULES is one of my favorite Disney animated movies. It's a great blend of warmhearted romance and smart-alecky humor.
@盧璘壽로인수
@盧璘壽로인수 Жыл бұрын
also Hades is NOT A VILLAIN
@HannahHess92
@HannahHess92 Жыл бұрын
@@盧璘壽로인수 IKR? He's a god of death, not the devil.
@盧璘壽로인수
@盧璘壽로인수 Жыл бұрын
@@HannahHess92 *WRONG* Thanatos is the god of *death* as stated in "The Gospel Truth", Hades is the god of *the underworld (also named after him) where the dead go*
@Furienna
@Furienna Жыл бұрын
​@@盧璘壽로인수 But he was unpopular in Ancient Greece since he was associated with death and couldn’t be appeased like the other gods. So I would say that Disney weren't all wrong.
@keynanmartinez
@keynanmartinez Жыл бұрын
Even if these aren't accurate I still love these movies.
@thepowerfulwolfspirit.2581
@thepowerfulwolfspirit.2581 Жыл бұрын
Same.😊 Disney movies for life!😃
@keynanmartinez
@keynanmartinez Жыл бұрын
@@thepowerfulwolfspirit.2581 Happy you agree!
@chrismulwee4911
@chrismulwee4911 Жыл бұрын
I seriously doubt anyone cares how accurate the movies are. I know I don't. People just watch them to be entertained and to have a good time.
@LBTElectricDinoOnline
@LBTElectricDinoOnline Жыл бұрын
Finally, Dinosaur 2000 gets more attention and it deserves to be in the Msmojo list and finally, Dinosaur 2000 gets more praise and more respect than what it got and it makes me happy. I pretty much agree that lemurs and dinosaurs never coexist with each other. Sure I do enjoy the movie and it’s one of my favorite animated Disney movies of all time but I’ll admit that some parts of the movie could be very inaccurate. Honestly, this has got to be the best MsMojo videos I’ve ever seen and I’m so happy that Dinosaur 2000 gets more of the positives and more love because of how great this movie really is. If more MsMojo makes more of these Disney lists, Dinosaur 2000 totally deserves to be the one the list because the movie is great and it’s one of my favorites growing up and I still adore the movie.
@fireflyparker1584
@fireflyparker1584 Жыл бұрын
Despite the historically inaccurate details, I still love these movies!
@TheLionNamedLeo
@TheLionNamedLeo Жыл бұрын
You missed the football part in Robin hood >< lady cluck sure knew how to make a tackle and a stiff arm...football wasnt around in Robin hoods time
@TardisNerdGirl
@TardisNerdGirl Жыл бұрын
I grew up in the Jamestown area and every time this movie starts, I keep wondering, where tf did the animators think a waterfall like that existed even back then in coastal Virginia? Did they even check a map?
@dylans.1741
@dylans.1741 Жыл бұрын
For those thinking "it would have been legal for Tiana to marry Naveen because he's also black," that may not be entirely true. Based on his Hindi first name and the way he speaks, Naveen is most likely intended as Indian or South Asian, and therefore his marriage to Tiana would have constituted an interracial marriage
@Furienna
@Furienna Жыл бұрын
Not that I'm an expert, but didn't those laws only forbid white people to marry non-white people? Naveen is hardly white...
@joelandrews8374
@joelandrews8374 Жыл бұрын
You are telling me that a movie about a talking dinosaur isn’t realistic 😮
@marilyntaylor9577
@marilyntaylor9577 Жыл бұрын
Yeah! And where are all those Prince Charmings?
@princesspixel3151
@princesspixel3151 Жыл бұрын
@@marilyntaylor9577 …I think Frozen can answer that? …Yeah, Reality sucks
@KangaKucha
@KangaKucha Жыл бұрын
No offence but fuck that Disney Sleeping Beauty is great! To quote the Villian: Now you have to deal with me AND ALL THE POWERS OF HELL!
@rubyhay450
@rubyhay450 Жыл бұрын
Love these Disney movies! And Tarzan is so not Anna and Else's brother lost at sea. His folks were on a steamship not a wooden boat!
@ellynmacgregor8210
@ellynmacgregor8210 Жыл бұрын
Not only that, but Lord and Lady Greystoke (Tarzan's *English* parents) were in their twenties or at the oldest (in the case of Lord Greystoke) early thirties...much younger than Elsa and Anna's parents!
@rhokesh4391
@rhokesh4391 Жыл бұрын
Frozen 2 debunks the whole theory anyway ;)
@inesatt1313
@inesatt1313 Жыл бұрын
Yup they missed but still creativity overruns reality on these movies
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
Creativity and storytelling over reality anyday
@christineparis5607
@christineparis5607 Жыл бұрын
Most of history, especially around the Indians, is too horrible to contemplate, much less show children. It's almost all gruesome beyond belief (like the early conquistadors using their dogs to hunt down and kill the fleeing indians who didn't immediately agree to be their slaves), so I can understand why they wouldn't want to craft actual history into stories for young people. That said, I was completely traumatized by the movie, Dumbo, and Bambi. That was a lot more "reality" than I was ever ready for....
@bighand1530
@bighand1530 Жыл бұрын
@@christineparis5607 Been a while since I have seen Bambi
@christineparis5607
@christineparis5607 Жыл бұрын
@@bighand1530 When the hunter blows away Bambi's mom, I was only 6, and not ready for a hideous, violent animal death, or the immense fear and anxiety that it caused Bambi. Just like the other Disney traumitizer, "Old Yeller". Who does this to children???
@princesspixel3151
@princesspixel3151 Жыл бұрын
Idk how I wasn’t so traumatized by that scene… or maybe I at least don’t remember? Maybe it’s the same basic reason with the Pink Elephants scene; I was too young and innocent to understand. (My early childhood was different to many others’, okay?)
@jakeilano6821
@jakeilano6821 Жыл бұрын
I don't really care how inaccurate the movies are I still love them. But the information is nice to know too.
@joshuawells835
@joshuawells835 Жыл бұрын
Whenever I watch a newer Disney film set during the 18th-19th century, such as Tangled or Frozen and Frozen II, something I always think of is why the soldiers are using medieval swords, pikes, and crossbows - where are the guns? Muskets, artillery, etc... I can understand why Disney might be hesitant, but time appropriate weaponry is something that I think should be on this list.
@Compucles
@Compucles Жыл бұрын
The guns would still lose to the frying pan.
@dalerose3500
@dalerose3500 Жыл бұрын
Since Frozen was located in a mountain Kingdom perhaps guns would not be a good choice especially when snow is involved.
@joshuawells835
@joshuawells835 Жыл бұрын
@@dalerose3500 Norway still has guns.
@Furienna
@Furienna Жыл бұрын
Has it been confirmed when "Tangled" takes place though?
@joshuawells835
@joshuawells835 Жыл бұрын
@@Furienna Yes, Corona is a 17th Century Germanic kingdom.
@andreapatane4204
@andreapatane4204 Жыл бұрын
I studied about early humans in 6th Grade for Social Studies at my former middle school and Dinosaur had many inaccuracies that I've never seen back then.
@fantasyprincessgirl
@fantasyprincessgirl Жыл бұрын
Also, John Rolfe was horribly abusive at Pocahontas as well!
@behindthescenesphotos5133
@behindthescenesphotos5133 Жыл бұрын
Example?
@fantasyprincessgirl
@fantasyprincessgirl Жыл бұрын
@@behindthescenesphotos5133 he was racist to her and forced her to take up an English name, Rebecca
@josephwest124
@josephwest124 Жыл бұрын
Well, depending on Navim's actual "race," there might not have been any real problem. The British actress, Merle Oberon, for instance, had a mixed ethnic background (South Asian/Maori on her mother's side--her birth mother AND the grandmother who raised her as her own daughter--and English on her father's side) and, to avoid stigma, she made up a backstory of being born in Tasmania. But her mixed-race heritage nearly cost her her film career. She'd dated a retired English actor who promised to introduce her to the director, Rex Ingram, but he quit dating her once he saw her mixed-race mother/grandmother. The film shows Navim as relatively dark-skinned compared to the obviously white/Caucasian characters and there was a fair amount of racial prejudice directed at people of North African, Arabian, Persian, North Indian (the Punjab, Rajasthan, Andhra Pradesh) and East Asian (Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Filipino, Malay, etc) when they were encountered in the US (aside from the Chinese--who were mostly found on the US West Coast--the other groups wouldn't really be too numerous until the early to mid 20th century).
@whizkidliz
@whizkidliz Жыл бұрын
I've never understood why people get so bent out of shape about movies that are fictitious in nature. It's for entertainment, not education
@Compucles
@Compucles 5 ай бұрын
This is also for entertainment. Besides, the real story of "Pocahontas" is *not* fictitious in nature.
@benjaminparkinson5255
@benjaminparkinson5255 Жыл бұрын
I love Tarzan 1999 just for Phillip Collins songs
@sifilore9462
@sifilore9462 Жыл бұрын
If Disney included racism is The Frog Prince it wouldn't have been a hit cause it featured the 1st black princess. Whereas other dark skinned ones were Pocahontas, Jasmine, and Esmeralda. Other like Moana and Raya came later. I'm no history buff so please tell me what happened to that bridge of Pocahontas that was mentioned.
@grandpa_the_kid
@grandpa_the_kid Жыл бұрын
Let’s be honest, we all know what the #1 movie would be
@tunestar2245
@tunestar2245 Жыл бұрын
2:48 The chicken’s name isn’t Maid Marian, her name is Lady Kluck.
@Furienna
@Furienna Жыл бұрын
I'm not really bothered by these inaccuracies since this is cartoons, and we all know that the original stories often aren't very family-friendly anyway. Lots of people have pointed out that "The Princess & The Frog" should be given more credit. There's a reference to racism in the movie (it was even shown in this video), even if they were more subtle about it than "Pocahontas" and "Hunchback of Notre-Dame" were. And I dont think that Naveen would have been considered white even if he had been an American. But I must admit that one historical inaccuracy in an otherwise good Disney movie annoys me even though it wasn't even mentioned in this video. And it's how both Elsa and Kristoff in "Frozen" objects to Anna's engagement to Hans on the grounds that they had only just met each other. I'm sorry, but princes and princesses in the past normally didn't have more than a short courtship at best before they got engaged. As a matter of fact, all of the older Disney Princess romances which are ridiculed by many cynics today are actually realistic in that regard...
@mumblingpatchey318
@mumblingpatchey318 Жыл бұрын
Pocahontas married Rolfe when they were in VA, she "converted" to Christianity, and changed her name to Rebecca. On the voyage to England is when she got sick, then died shortly afterwards.
@jerryjiang568
@jerryjiang568 Жыл бұрын
Another thing about "Hercules", there were 9 Muses not 5. Also Hercules didn't fight the Titans, he fought the Gigantes. Last thing: there were way more than 4 Titans
@盧璘壽로인수
@盧璘壽로인수 Жыл бұрын
heck, Herakles freed Prometheos, a Titan grand-uncle
@Compucles
@Compucles Жыл бұрын
@@盧璘壽로인수 They covered that in the TV series, but yes, they left out the part about him being a Titan.
@盧璘壽로인수
@盧璘壽로인수 Жыл бұрын
@@Compucles well since it's established that the Titans (+ a Kyklopes) were the villains according to the "Gospel Truth" propos
@donovandelaney3171
@donovandelaney3171 Жыл бұрын
Aurora's the half biological daughter of Maleficent. She's got hidden powers that she doesn't know about. She's going to wake up with horns one day.
@Steveirwin4477
@Steveirwin4477 Жыл бұрын
Poor Rodger Miller he's been dead for 30 years he was a country singer he played the rooster at the beginning of this video he died at the age of 56 of cancer cuz he was a long time smoker
@ericastones1052
@ericastones1052 Жыл бұрын
Well, actually they did have that one scene where the two retaliate men said "a woman of your background" which Disney saying "we know it happen back then and we do want to do this right without offending anyone" and so that scene was written in and they didn't didn't get married in the USA, they got married in Prince's native country but their marriage would be seen as legit back then until 1967 of course. I don't think Disney wanted to offend anyone since they're volt does have some very risky images of racist characters and wanted to avoid that with all cost possible and so wrote one racist thing without offending anyone hopefully.
@Compucles
@Compucles Жыл бұрын
I thought they got married in a Louisiana swamp. Even in the 1920s, that was still American territory, and it was legit enough to break a powerful curse.
@ericastones1052
@ericastones1052 Жыл бұрын
@@Compucles well that means they got two weddings and since she got a husband then she could let him be the main owner to fool the tax man back then because a woman running things was seen as impossible back then because sexism was a issue as well.
@Amaruuno
@Amaruuno Жыл бұрын
a cartoon franchise about changing the story so that they have happy endings where dreams come true being inaccurate to history?! NOOOOOOOO! -eyeroll-
@everlenaoliver6912
@everlenaoliver6912 Жыл бұрын
HOLD UP! How is The Hunchback of Notre Dame not on the list? And, don't @ me, the list covered fictional stories.
@TheCutiepie2004
@TheCutiepie2004 Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this comment
@disneyvillainsfan1666
@disneyvillainsfan1666 Жыл бұрын
I just decided that these Disney Movies took place in their own separate timelines, rather than the real world.
@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n
@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n Ай бұрын
Good for you for including the ENTIRETY of "Pocahontas", because that movie as a whole was a historical inaccuracy from beginning to end!
@jcj268
@jcj268 Жыл бұрын
Most of these inaccuracies I can forgive, except for Pocahontas
@sarahkwast1250
@sarahkwast1250 Жыл бұрын
Who goes into a children's movie and expects historical accuracy?? It is a movie for the same audience that loves stories about talking animals and superheros.
@Compucles
@Compucles 5 ай бұрын
It's not that we expect it. It's that we have fun pointing it out when it doesn't happen.
@TowelsKingdom
@TowelsKingdom Жыл бұрын
I can't help but but feel if you think anything is accurate in a Disney movie, you need a new source for historical information
@AtarahDerek
@AtarahDerek Жыл бұрын
Excuse you, madam, but how do YOU know Robin Hood is inaccurate to the history of the Zootopia-verse? Hmmmmmmmmmmm????? As for PatF... 1. Eli LaBouff practically runs New Orleans in this fictionalized version of it, and he canonically has a low tolerance for racism, given his daughter's best friend is a black girl. 2. The two bankers DID reject Tiana's offer because she was black, female and poor. But they knew full well they had to be subtle about it if they didn't want to lose LaBouff's business. 3. Naveen was a prince of a foreign nation whose laws obviously DO allow interracial marriage. Hence why Charlotte, a very WHITE girl (you'll notice that Naveen, while not black, is also very much NOT white), was more than happy to try and woo him. 4. The REAL historical inaccuracy dealing with racism is the fact that the restaurant Tiana worked at wasn't segregated. The LaBouffs should've been the only white people in that place, and that they would've done out of sheer audacity, reveling in the fact that they have "screw your rules" money. Now, if the Tiana series makes our little shipper hearts happy by at least teasing Elidora, THAT will demand a confrontation with laws against interracial marriage eventually, I'm sure. And I'm all for it because I am absolutely sailing Elidora. Tangled takes place in or shortly before 1836. We know this because it exists in the same setting as Frozen, which takes place in 1839. So yes, Raps had matches.
@larssjostrom6565
@larssjostrom6565 Жыл бұрын
The historical inaccuracy that I think most about is the idealisation of Richard the Lionhearted and villainization of prince/later king John Lackland/Softsword. All kings of the time raised the taxes if they could, including Richard the Lionhearted. Not because of any sexual preference for gold like prince John in the disney movie, but to pay for their military expenses.
@Compucles
@Compucles 5 ай бұрын
Richard may not have been a saint, but John was still much worse. As King, John 1 was such a tyrant that he had to be bullied into signing the Magna Carta.
@lindildeev5721
@lindildeev5721 Жыл бұрын
Well, what you said about Snow-White was true for almost all heroïns... except for Merida, Pocahontas and Mulan. And the problem with Beauty and the Beast is that it was written during 17th century so, it should have been quiet.
@jacobdrolet4262
@jacobdrolet4262 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video ms mojo, fantastic job. I still love Pocahontas even with fails problems of the true story of search material of Pocahontas too. It’s my favourite Disney animated movie ever.
@casckettfriki
@casckettfriki Жыл бұрын
It's disney, what do you expect? They are supouse to be beatiful movies full of hope and happy endings. They can't tell the originals stories as they are not supouse to be for kids. I can get what they do this, life is hard enough, we need this stories to keep the faith and hope of having a better life.
@sarahramsey9454
@sarahramsey9454 Жыл бұрын
beyond bizarre for these historical facts but absolutely love frozen and tangled though the stories are just whimsy with a touch of cuteness
@samuelcollantes1175
@samuelcollantes1175 Жыл бұрын
Who knew My favorite childhood movies were so inaccurate? Anywho, happy saturday and Nice video as well Ms mojo, i wish You all happy holiday Season as well and i hope to see You soon for more content like this , take care , and i send You greetings from Colombia.
@TaraLyz
@TaraLyz Жыл бұрын
I knew clicking on this video I was going to regret it. I was not disappiointed. No one really goes into watching a Disney movie (animated or otherwise) expecting historical accuracy. You could also make the same arguement for most movies from all production companies though. Something is ALWAYS inaccurate in historical movies and I've just come to accept that. If I wanted historically accurate I'd take a history class or visit a museum, not go watch a movie.
@baliyae
@baliyae Жыл бұрын
I honestly didn’t care about the historical inaccuracies, I just watched for the entertainment.
@KangaKucha
@KangaKucha Жыл бұрын
Fair enough about historical inaccurate, but honestly it's Disney. They don't try to do it for that but to tell their own fictional story. You either like it or not. Imho, I love Pocahontas but it's more a guilty pleasure than a good movie (like a talking tree? Really!).
@michaelpalmieri7335
@michaelpalmieri7335 Жыл бұрын
You're mystified about a talking tree in that "Pocahontas" movie. Were you also mystified about all the talking animals that have been appearing in animated movies since the early 1900s, including Disney's famous talking MOUSE named Mickey?
@KangaKucha
@KangaKucha Жыл бұрын
@@michaelpalmieri7335 mate I hate the talking tree (especially as the animals don't talk, or at least eventually don't). If it was just with Pocahontas, I could accept that. Nope, also talks to John Smith and has ago at 2 settlers! HATE THAT! At least when Disney has talking animals I can take it, but the tree talking when animals don't is too much.
@Compucles
@Compucles Жыл бұрын
@@michaelpalmieri7335 Fantasy elements are much less excusable in a movie that's (at least intended to) depict actual history.
@ashsmee
@ashsmee Жыл бұрын
I mean for Matoaka story (Pocahontas) it’s the whole movie lol she was literally a child!!! Nothing about that movie is right.
@juneauatkinson6069
@juneauatkinson6069 Жыл бұрын
Why can't we just enjoy the magic of Disney without looking into it too much??
@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847
@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847 Жыл бұрын
*Looks at Disney right now* Yeah, sure...magic.
@princesspixel3151
@princesspixel3151 Жыл бұрын
If there’s one simple and “overrated” quote we should take notes on… it’s “let it go”
@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847
@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847 Жыл бұрын
@@princesspixel3151 Let go of what exactly?
@92RKID
@92RKID Жыл бұрын
@@princesspixel3151 I get your movie reference and point. Yes they are often quite inaccurate but the movies as you put it, were never meant to be historically accurate. They are basically the studio's interpretation and fun version of said story. Or in Pocahontas's case, a case of what if? Of what if what could have happened if history were different like that?
@Compucles
@Compucles Жыл бұрын
Because it's also fun to over-analyze things.
@autumbreeze1129
@autumbreeze1129 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, did you say American laws would've prevent Navean and Tiana's marriage? Navean is freaking royalty of a totally different country. American marriage laws don't mean Jack murd in this case. What, would the police arrest the royal family? Gimme a brake
@teejaysdiary
@teejaysdiary Жыл бұрын
I love these movies, inaccuracies and all 😄
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
They’re absolute classics of our childhoods and they tell awesome stories
@bighand1530
@bighand1530 Жыл бұрын
Cool
@keynanmartinez
@keynanmartinez Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@daveed1750
@daveed1750 Жыл бұрын
Hercules?? LOL. Mythologically inaccurate does not equal historically inaccurate.
@selinapersaud7629
@selinapersaud7629 Жыл бұрын
The interracial, marriage problem could’ve probably been avoided by them getting married in his country. Or, probably more realistically, in a really shady area, because India is even more racist at times.
@Compucles
@Compucles 5 ай бұрын
It still doesn't fix the interracial marriage in the live action remake of "Lady and the Tramp."
@dvqjacks7735
@dvqjacks7735 Жыл бұрын
The Good Dinosaur is historically inaccurate. As we all know the film shows the co-existence of Dinos and humans and answers the question: "What if the dinosaurs never died?" This is seen in the beginning when the meteor misses earth, negating the dinosaur's extinction, but that doesn't save Pixar from suffering a huge historical mishap. Several species of dinosaurs went extinct before the meteor hit, and within that list of species included the Apatosaurus which is the species of Arlo and his family.
@isaackinne1971
@isaackinne1971 Жыл бұрын
I don't care about the history problems Pocahontas has! I STILL LOVE THE FILM!
@katjuarez4266
@katjuarez4266 Жыл бұрын
Yayce! Pocahontas was definitely #1 , #2 Dinosaur #3 The Princess and the Frog and #4 Mulan I was so pissed at wht those men said to Tiana! 😾
@rash71194
@rash71194 Жыл бұрын
Hercules wasn't even the real greek name, the correct one would be Heracles. Hercules is the roman equivalent.
@mistybethune9116
@mistybethune9116 Жыл бұрын
correction inneracial marriage was illegal in some us states until 1967 not all
@pvthitch
@pvthitch Жыл бұрын
They are not gorillas. The books call them Great Apes.
@ellynmacgregor8210
@ellynmacgregor8210 Жыл бұрын
The books, yes--but having read the first in the series, Tarzan of the Apes, I can tell you the movie took great liberties...some of which, quite frankly, I considered improvements. I'm ambivalent, however, about the simian aspect. The movie changed Great Apes to gorillas, and I don't see any good reason for that change.
@Compucles
@Compucles Жыл бұрын
@@ellynmacgregor8210 There are two good reasons for that particular change: 1) "Great ape" isn't the name of a real species. 2) Gorilla behavior matches much more closely to what is depicted in the movie and the original book than ape behavior does.
@OverlordZeroULTIMA
@OverlordZeroULTIMA Жыл бұрын
I personally don't need any historical accuracy. I just want to enjoy the movie. :P But I think I fell asleep during Dinosuar because it was so boring, lol. I don't remember it at all, but there was definitely a more realistic movie like this involving dinosaurs that I saw in theaters as a kid and woke up to it being almost - if not - over. That was the ONLY time I ever fell asleep in a theater, LOL.
@ttopbugatti9430
@ttopbugatti9430 Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure a Disney film is designed for accuracy 😩
@KangaKucha
@KangaKucha Жыл бұрын
At least Pocahontas is a good love story movie. It's inaccurate and mostly fictional, but a good movie imho. It was meant to be Disney successfully Best Picture of the Year at the Oscars, but it failed. It's not that good anyway (but honestly sometimes Oscars gets it wrong so whatever).
@Compucles
@Compucles Жыл бұрын
Except it's not actually a love story. An explicit romance between the two leads is never shown in the movie, and then Pocahontas got together with her real life husband in the sequel.
@KangaKucha
@KangaKucha Жыл бұрын
@@Compucles disagree mate, they do end up being lovers in the end. Yet your right that in the sequel, they roughly history kinda right by setting her up with her actual partner/husband. Heck the sequel is even better than I originally thought yet overall still blows compared to the frist movie imho.
@Compucles
@Compucles Жыл бұрын
@@KangaKucha Lovers?! They don't even kiss.
@KangaKucha
@KangaKucha Жыл бұрын
@@Compucles IDOIT THEY DO AT THE END!
@deborahkogan8742
@deborahkogan8742 Жыл бұрын
Great job!
@tatianavelasco1335
@tatianavelasco1335 Жыл бұрын
The Intro, why is the rooster playing the banjo?
@mariapdr3261
@mariapdr3261 Жыл бұрын
The main villain of Hercules’ story is Hera. However, Hercules is pretty horrible character who kills many people when he loses his temper even without Hera’s interference.
@Compucles
@Compucles Жыл бұрын
Yes, the Princess and the Frog was unrealistically light on racism, but you then proceeded to highlight the biggest examples of racism that are in the film by depicting the segregated buses and then Tiana indeed being turned down for purchasing the restaurant due to her race (and gender). WTH?! Also, I'm pretty sure Naveen is meant to be a black man himself and an African prince. It was Naveen's original intention of marrying that rich white girl that wouldn't have worked.
@williammccollom6847
@williammccollom6847 Жыл бұрын
Considering all of these movies, except 1, are fiction based on myths and lore, then accuracy doesn't matter. The only one that needs to be accurate is Pocahontas
@danielclaeys7598
@danielclaeys7598 Жыл бұрын
Since when has Disney ever been accurate historically or otherwise? If this was of importance, there wouldn't be any Disney movies.
@TheAeroAvatar
@TheAeroAvatar Жыл бұрын
Hilarious that people still won't shut up about Pocahontas being historically inaccurate when you know you're watching a bloody Disney movie. We don't condemn Hunchback for the fact that Quasimodo lives in that version, so what's the deal?
@Compucles
@Compucles 5 ай бұрын
The issue is that "Pocahontas" is actually (or supposed to be) based on real historic events.
@TheAeroAvatar
@TheAeroAvatar 5 ай бұрын
@@Compucles Welp the romanticized version isn't Disney's fault, pin that on the real John Smith and whoever exaggerated the story. I'm a history buff myself but I don't come to Disney expecting a history lesson.
@gavinblack3380
@gavinblack3380 Жыл бұрын
Nice video we love Disney fans I love we learn about pixar moments to show them I really like Pixar fans the most I like them cool video
@Lady-Kanerasoka
@Lady-Kanerasoka Жыл бұрын
Ever since I found out the TRUE story about Pocahontas after watching a Smithsonian channel documentary (“Pocahontas: Beyond the Myth” which is available on Paramount+) I’ve NEVER been able to watch the Disney film ever again! Talk about “ruining your childhood!”
@semiretired86
@semiretired86 Жыл бұрын
Robin Hood is actually one of the more historically correct Disney movies it's set in King Richard Lionheatr's reign as king and Prince John became King as he's movie caracter and became one of the worst if the the worst english kings ig not the worst King ever apparently
@grayshigami6797
@grayshigami6797 Жыл бұрын
Why would an animated movie for kids need to be historically accurate?
@pedrogabrielduarte4544
@pedrogabrielduarte4544 Жыл бұрын
Dude even dreamworks is way accurate than disney
@CircleofLifeStudios
@CircleofLifeStudios Жыл бұрын
I disagree with Tarzan - we are never given an actual year for the timeline. So if Darwin is still alive it's obvious no more than 20ish years behind what you guys think the year is. I always got the vibe Tarzan was set in the 1870s/80s. Jane's father gives us the hint that it's obvious the early 1880s if he's mentioning Darwin and Queen Victoria.
@freddiemolinajr.8397
@freddiemolinajr.8397 Жыл бұрын
Good video Ms mojo is a good channel
@bighand1530
@bighand1530 Жыл бұрын
Yeah
@simba123935
@simba123935 Жыл бұрын
Zeus wasn't a one woman man?!? Jk I knew that.
@justineves3588
@justineves3588 Жыл бұрын
Very very great list I like it a lot very great job mis mojo one of my absolute favorite list ever 💗
@revanius2213
@revanius2213 Жыл бұрын
Matoaka instead of Pocahontas, they should really teach that distinction.
@jennifer_m.8613
@jennifer_m.8613 5 ай бұрын
Yes, that was the first thing I noticed when I watched The Princess and the Frog
@sailorearth2007
@sailorearth2007 Жыл бұрын
I never read into accuracy…these are just fun adaptations of stories and legends Pocahontas is the only real person and the story as it was would not have been appropriate or gotten past the censors…at least she is the first native princess adding diversity to the lineup at the time
@thebookishpanda6992
@thebookishpanda6992 Жыл бұрын
Talking about Darwin in Tarzan, could Jane have meant introducing Tarzan to his writing verses introducing him to the actual man? That's how I always thought of it.
@amandapike2477
@amandapike2477 Жыл бұрын
Banning interracial marriage was deemed illegal in 1967 because SOME states were still banning them but many states allowed interracial marriages. Some quite early.
@ellynmacgregor8210
@ellynmacgregor8210 Жыл бұрын
Not, sadly, Louisiana. However (as I pointed out in an earlier post), who's to say that Naveen is white? I was under the impression that he was at least part African. Plus, as another poster pointed out, Naveen was a foreign prince--so the anti-miscegenation (anti-mixed-marriage) laws would not apply to him.
@ElsaMusicVideos
@ElsaMusicVideos Жыл бұрын
Tangled is set in the 1840s or 1820s. Matches would’ve been invented. I don’t know where you got 1780’s from but I’ve never heard of that theory in my life. It’s 1820/ 1840s and fits on the same timeline as Frozen, hence the Eugene and Rapunzel cameo in the first movie.
@Joy6168
@Joy6168 Жыл бұрын
@Elsa Music Videos Tangled’s directors claim the movie’s set in the 1780’s, but 1810’s to 1820’s fits better.
@盧璘壽로인수
@盧璘壽로인수 Жыл бұрын
the 1780's part was because prior to becoming "Tangled", the creators wanted the French Rococo influence à la Fragonard
@everlenaoliver6912
@everlenaoliver6912 Жыл бұрын
3:15 I can't believe Universal's series was closer to the source material.
@genericfanart5423
@genericfanart5423 Жыл бұрын
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