Top 10 Most Threatened American Museum Ships

[@jpkdd850]

Thank you for stating the historical Significance of USS ORLECK. Her Korean and Vietnam War service is legendary. Kudos for the mention

[@belind0388]

I worry for The Sullivans. She's a tough old girl that has been in fresh water, but our Buffalo winters are not kind. Lots of ice and wind where she's berthed at the eastern end of Lake Erie. I recently renewed my membership with the park, its not much, but every little bit helps for our museum fleet.

[@luvr381]

Been there a number of times, wonderful museum.

[@Th0nky]

Unfortunately your fears have been proven right. I hope at this point something can be done for her, but considering how slim margins are for Museums that seems far-fetched.

[@sombertownds149]

Whats your thoughts now?

[@anewzack78]

The mayor swears up and down they're going to save it. ALTHOUGH I just heard in the news the new USS the Sullivans which is only 7 years old is thinking of being decommissioned...

[@HaddaClu]

@@Th0nky Yeah... just saw the latest news update with the coast guard rep saying over 20 holes were plugged - 12 on one side alone.

[@medtechfire22]

Thank you for being kind towards the Sullivan's. I'm from Buffalo and within two weeks they more then had the funding for emergency repairs. A sign of the love the community here and across the nation have for her. Covid truly crushed that income for the naval park. Like everywhere. This video is an excellent way to light a fire and being knowledge to what's out there.

[@dannymiller3315]

I'm happy to see Texas isn't the only museum getting fixed up

[@popzstudios6358]

Cheers from Hamburg! I hope our beloved naval park here in Buffalo lasts for many generations to come.

[@frederickhoward4940]

Danny Miller nd7

[@sombertownds149]

o7

[@anewzack78]

What's happening to The Sullivans is truly heartbreaking

[@Train115]

Im a little worried about the Salem, shes the last Des Moines class Heavy Cruiser and one of few US cruisers at all on display. Shes also very rusty.

[@stephenchappell7512]

She's not only the last Des Moines, she's also the last Heavy Cruiser period!

[@XeroSygnal]

Biggest problem with Salem, IMO is her location. She's in the old Fore River Shipyard where she was built. Most of the yard is gone and replaced with industrial buildings. No real tourism draw to the area and most people wouldn't notice her until they drove across the Fore River Bridge. She needs a better location to draw in more visitors.

[@Train115]

@@XeroSygnal There was a short lived plan to move her to Fall River (at Battleship Cove) at one point, but well.. Yeah.. Never happened.

[@stephenchappell7512]

@@XeroSygnal Salem itself is an existing tourist location with a redeveloped waterfront. Makes sense to me anyway.

[@williamt.sherman9841]

@@XeroSygnal thats what i hate about Museum ships is they always put them in random locations rather than in one spot. i went to visit her and it was nearly impossible to find her without google maps

[@NavyCWO]

I served aboard the USS Texas (CGN-39); but was a member of the Battleship Texas Veterans Association for many years. A lot of work is being done on Texas to stabilize her and prepare her for drydocking. As a member of the association, I had access to virtually every space in the ship. I had some fascinating experiences touring Texas. Donations can be sent to the Battleship Texas Foundation which now manages the ship.

[@view05nys]

I am in the view that The Queen Mary can also be classified as a one time military ship. She transported many thousands of troops to ad from England during WW II. Her speed and capacity was critical.

[@tomsbasement4884]

My grandfather served on the USS Nevada BB36 from after her post-Pearl refit through to the end of the war. After the war the ship was used in the target fleet for two atomic bombs drops and was finally sunk being used as a target vessel for other surface ships. What a tremendous waste of history. I would love to have seen her as a museum ship. We can't lose these monuments to sacrifice, service, and history. Thank you to the unsung heroes who work on keeping them alive.

[@tankacebo9128]

in July of 2020, I visited the USS Texas, and was able to secure a three hour-personal tour by the restoration head. I was surprised at how much better looking she is on the inside. her bilges were bone dry, I personally went down in them and inspected two in the aft section beneath the engineering spaces. there is a wonderful team built by Bruce, the head of the Battleship Texas commission, that are working miracles to keep her in relatively good shape. I'll say this, at the time I visited her, the only threat to her continued existence was the fact that she was having trouble securing drydock space DUE TO THE PANDEMIC. that's not to say there isn't a lack of funding, as there always is a lack of funding for these vessels. it's the nature of the beast, I'm afraid. Keep up the brilliant work, gentlemen. A poor Irish boy thanks you for your continued service to these beautiful historic artifacts.

[@cats400]

The latest update on the USS Texas is they are in talks with a shipyard in the Galveston area to dry dock her. The issue is the shipyard has to obtain a dry dock large enough to berth her. Latest update estimated the first quarter of 2022 is when she will be drydocked.

[@David-hm9ic]

Just submitted a volunteer application to work on the USS Texas. Just waiting for the process to take its course.

[@12jazion]

Texas has been leaking for decades so you must have missed it somehow. Her lower levels have been filled with spray foam, concrete and mud in an attempt to keep the water out and most of that was done over 20 years ago. She is now suffering massive flooding and emergency work had to be done to keep her afloat. Luckily she is on her way to dry dock now.

[@tankacebo9128]

@@12jazion have you been there to look? have you been down in those spaces? or are you just basing your ideas off of the Wikipedia article that portrays her as having one foot in the grave? she's an old warrior, and her caretakers are doing a sterling job of keeping her going. granted my visit was two years ago now. a lot can change in two years.

[@12jazion]

@@tankacebo9128 I have not read the wiki page, I read the post from the Texas Government that said it had cost them over 85 million in 12 years to keep the ship afloat and they were considering scrapping it but the Texas foundation came up with 35 million to attempt to salvage the ship and was granted custody of the ship in 2019. The Texas Tribune has a good article about it and even Drachinifel talked about it having catastrophic flooding. The battleship Texas channel has made several videos about what they have had to do to temporarily stop the ship from sinking, most of which involves pumping it full of spray foam and concrete and having pumps running around the clock.

[@Whiskey11Gaming]

The two that scare me the most are the Little Rock and Salem... the last light cruiser and part heavy cruiser... their preservation is EXTREMELY important.

[@Jpdt19]

I agree they need to be maintained but don't forget Belfast over here in London. Don't remotely want to loose them though I agree.

[@awuma]

@@Jpdt19 yeah! A very big light cruiser :-) Fortunately, it has both British and Russian friends. Like the Aurora, it's too much of a landmark in a prominent place to be allowed to deteriorate... I hope.

[@bf9142ftw]

@@Jpdt19 Belfast is in a decent location though, right? In terms of how many tourists go by her annually.

[@amtank]

As a former Orleck volunteer this is me yelling. Orleck is a hardy lady and was barely bothered by her latest adventure. I have total hopes she will be in FL soon.

[@matthewcraver9917]

I'm surprised that you mentioned USS Olympia without mentioning that the money for drydocking her _was_ raised in the 90's buy the director of the Independence Seaport Museum embezzled much of it.

[@haulperrel2547]

There was also that scandal a couple years ago with the accountant claiming the museum was illegally misreporting funds. From my research I guess that was dropped without ever looking into the actual financials of the museum. (MURDOCK v. INDEPENDENCE SEAPORT MUSEUM, 2018)

[@BattleshipNewJersey]

Our priority is where these ships stand today, not the mismanagement of them in the past.

[@matthewcraver9917]

@@BattleshipNewJersey If you are encouraging your followers to get involved with the organizations charged with preserving these ships, as you explicitly are in this video, it is a basic failure of honesty to neglect the mismanagement of the past. If there was financial mismanagement, anyone thinking of donating time or money deserves to know about that.

[@BattleshipNewJersey]

They absolutely should, but those folks who had those issues are no longer with that organization and they adjusted course.

[@ZTIERK]

@@matthewcraver9917 I don't think it is fair to argue that a case of fraud in the past taints the entire industry. When a case of bank fraud occurs, no one argues that we should stop using banks.

[@hyperfocal2002]

Donated to the USS The Sullivans after watching this video.

[@huntercurts9998]

Good man

[@brianchapman3701]

I grew up in Waterloo, Iowa, the Sullivans' home town. My Dad grew up in a neighborhood near the Sullivans' home and, though not well, knew some of the brothers. Damn good, IMO, to hear of your donation.

[@BuffaloNavalPark]

A little late to the party here, but the Buffalo Naval Park is grateful for your support! We've raised the $1 million, and we've begun the work to preserve her. The work has stopped because the temperature of the water, but about 100 feet of the port side from the blade aft, has been covered in the two part epoxy, and it has hardened. We haven't been without issues, but we're pleased that the work has started! Thanks for your support and check out our Buffalo Naval Park KZbin Channel!

[@j-maxfromor1895]

Came up the Columbia river from Longview to Portland Oregon on the USS New Jersey many years ago. Was a Navy League tour group for Rose Festival. Very impressive ship and guns.

[@gibbsey9579]

Wouldn't it be nice if a bunch of ship Museums could get together and build a dry dock, then take turns working on their charges...

[@bigstick6332]

Ling was not sunk by urban explorers. She was sunk due to a 3 inch hole in the hull. This was found while they were working on repairs.

[@YoloSwagNinja]

Do you have a source for that? A hole was eventually found in the sub, but the vandals opened a number of hatches and bilges. It’s been my understanding that this was the primary cause of the loss.

[@bigstick6332]

@@YoloSwagNinja It was posted on Facebook on the official page (Louisville Naval Museum Inc) of the group that is doing all the work trying to clean up and save the Ling. The guy in charge stated it was the hole and not vandals. Here is the quote (link below) "Joe Sullivan Admin After our first assessment inspection of Ling; It was found that no seawater valves were opened contrary to old news articles and word of mouth. The flooding was actually caused by a hull integrity failure near the aft signal ejector located on the portside of the aft Torpedo Room by means of a 3" rust hole. Since the initial inspection; we have patched the hole with a "sandwich" patch. As of now, the patch is holding and will be replaced with a permanent weld job. Engineer, USS Ling" Here is the link to the post on Facebook: facebook.com/groups/338689653415753/permalink/527462401205143 There is aslo a reference to it not being the vandals on this Wiki page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Ling Look in the "site" section.

[@DSToNe19and83]

The guy has a KZbin channel where he goes into abandon places and was in it beforehand and was accused of sinking it. He has videos explaining everything

[@roberteramian4245]

I grew up in south east Massachusetts had many school field trips to USS Massachusetts. Back then she was the only ship there.

[@intselec2184]

Imagine behing a worker who is habitued to work on modern ship and then sudently a giant battleship enter the drydock

[@RW4X4X3006]

Imagine the reaction when the USS Texas comes a knockin. Like front row seats at a Rolling Stones concert, and out strolls Keith Richards.

[@The_Modeling_Underdog]

@@RW4X4X3006 Couldn't have said it better myself. Keith Richards is the perfect example. You don't know how he's alive, how he even manages to move. And yet, there he is.

[@RW4X4X3006]

@@The_Modeling_Underdog Lol

[@RW4X4X3006]

@@The_Modeling_Underdog Once Texas is in drydock, it will be awesome to see.

[@peltel2222]

Thank you Ryan. Another excellent, factual report. Best curator 62 could ever have!!!

[@geographyRyan]

Great news about Queen Mary: she's been getting a lot of new repairs recently and is doing the best she's ever been

[@BillBaronas]

I am an ocean liner fan as well as a warship fan, and I can say that Queen Mary isn’t in danger due to a lack of a market so much as she has been the subject bureaucratic arguments as to who is responsible for financial support for maintenance. She is owned by the city of Long Beach and has been leased and operated by a number of real estate companies. During this time, inspectors have been fired by the operators for exposing major issues in their reports, and lease disputes over funding responsibilities have really put a damper on repairs, which are becoming exponentially expensive from ongoing neglect. It is very sad to watch preventable problems pile up while different organizations fight over them.

[@jilldesruisseau]

Having been to Battleship Cove in the last year, they do an amazing job but you're right, the multi ship format requires so much more in resources and volunteers to keep everything going. It's got to be tough to rationalize upkeep for the non-native ship with the others that are there.

[@werewolfsaves2179]

I wish it didn't cost so much to preserve these wonderful ships and pieces of history. I appreciate your hard work.

[@lsdzheeusi]

Curators: Do not let Ryan help when your vessel is in drydock ;)

[@BlindMansRevenge2002]

Ha Hah Hah Hah Hah Hah

[@deathscthye02]

This hurts my heart. I have loved ships for as long as I can remember, I hope ladies survive. It dishonors their crews and sacrifices to let them rot or be scrapped and forgotten by the people they fought for. Just... like... Enterprise.

[@Rwalt61]

If found your channel several days ago and I am addicted to it. I've been binge watching since.

[@XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX981]

Ships are alive. It is sad to see a couple of them treated like broken down horses. It's no one's fault really but it's especially sad to see the ocean liners like that. The Mary, the United States. Beautiful ships. Both the Queens transported whole divisions to the UK in 42-44 in one crossing. They could carry 15,000 each at 27 knots. The United States holds the Hales Trophy for the fastest Atlantic crossing, at 34 knots making the crossing in 3.5 days. Poor old USS Ling!

[@lindaterrell5535]

I was aboard the SS United States in 1956. My gram was going to Italy on her annual trip home. While the adults visited her cabin while waiting for push off, I ran all over that ship. I was 9. And it was a palace.

[@Kghammond852]

There were attempts to save United States but not before the scrapers got into her interior.

[@btomimatsucunard]

I would argue that the state of the Mary is the fault of Long Beach, once you know more on the process of her conversion and the way she is run. Her conversion was half done, and all of the amenities that she was to have was not put in, affecting her at her opening and rippling down all the way to today. There's a couple folks on youtube which have done very informative videos on current state. For me, since I grew up with her, she has a lot of potential as both a museum and a hotel/convention center. That said Long Beach needs a drastic overhaul of her operations. Her hotel section needs a massive upgrade in the same vein as the SS Rotterdam (basically modernizing her rooms while keeping the historic elements that made them unique) and a segregation of her Hotel spaces from museum spaces (the idea that I saw that I liked was recreating the class separations and allowing tour guests use of most of the first class spaces while hotel guests utilize shared spaces in second class including a recreated second class pool area).

[@michaeltillman1147]

I would love to see you do a video on "best kept" museum ships. Particularly, since I live close to Baton Rouge Louisiana, I'd like to know your opinion on the USS KIDD. 😎

[@colwebbsfmc]

Last I was on USS Kidd she was in spectacular shape.

[@David-hm9ic]

The Kidd is sitting out of the water unless the Mississippi is high. That probably helps a lot.

[@michaeltillman1147]

@@David-hm9ic that and fresh water. That salt is murder...

[@ksmurphable]

I used to go to battleship cove every year with my scouting group and camping on the ships. And I can attest that they do a great job cleaning maintaining and keeping things safe. My only wish is that they could have like a fleet museum. With like one of every type ship there to tour. Maybe just have one on each coast instead of all the ships spread out I am well aware that would be very expensive

[@unstoppableevan2699]

“Bunch Of Guys With A Boat” got me really good for whatever reason 😂

[@pilotdane]

Thank you for the very interesting, candid view into what it takes to fund and maintain a museum ship especially in light of modern circumstances.

[@fsj197811]

That's just SAD that political BS attached to a name makes a difference for a ship.

[@jefflovejoy2997]

I empathize with you. I really do. But Roger Taney was a racist. Irony of ironies Taney was a Democratic appointment to the position of Chief Justice of the Supreme Court in 1836. Leave it to those Democrats. Taney believed blacks were unfit to become US citizens. Taney supported slavery. Taney came from a slave holding family, and was a slave owner himself. Man, this guy was ugly. During the Civil War he remained up north. He knew the south would get their butts kicked. Racist and smart. This guy was really ugly.

[@legogenius1667]

@@jefflovejoy2997 I don't think anybody who's upset at those attacking the museum ship over this are trying to downplay the racism of that man really, it's just such a horrible position for the ship to be in. They can't really keep things as they are because of all the political stuff, but they can hardly rename it either as it's a historical artifact. Even damaging it by sawing off the nameplate is just not right in my opinion, even though I agree the namesake was extremely racist. Yes, it was named after a racist, but that actual ship's nameplate wasn't used for the same things and didn't stand for what he stood for. If only people were mature enough to separate the actions of that man and the brave, historic actions of the actual ship and crew, we could just acknowledge both as what they are.

[@XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX981]

@@legogenius1667 Well said. I totally agree with Jeff's points also. However it is pure tragedy for the ship and her crew and service. Can she not be renamed by the Sec of the Navy?

[@ghost307]

@@XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX981 Renaming a ship is bad luck...unless you do it when it's out of the water.

[@fsj197811]

@@ghost307 I'm not that big into ships so it's not surprising I'd never heard that. Interesting, thanks for sharing.

[@krabbacon63]

Great video as always, you guys. I really appreciate everything you do to keep history alive and well! There's a Balao-class sub in Muskogee Oklahoma called the USS Batfish (SS-310) which I would definitely considered threatened. Our state received significant flooding in the spring of 2019, which caused the Batfish, formerly secured on dry land, to rise and break free of her moorings. Fundraising and repairs have been ongoing since then, but I have heard very little in the way of updates on the project. A recent editorial from a local paper has also raised concerns about possible mismanagement. It'd be a shame to lose her, as she's been one of my favorite places in the state since I was a teenager. I guess I'm hoping that spreading the word will make a difference.

[@BattleshipNewJersey]

They got her back after her runaway incident! All of these ships have people claiming their mismanaged because someone comes and sees rust or something and doesn't understand how expensive it is to maintain them. Batfish will be ok.

[@DT-yt2zh]

Glad you mentioned the S.S. United States. Beautiful ship in her day and in need of an angel now.

[@lindaterrell5535]

I was on board her in 1956. A palace.

[@Butternades]

I was very happy to get a response from a business local to Buffalo that they were donating a large portion of the requested funding for The Sullivan’s

[@svenben9868]

When I was alot younger than I am now, around 11 or 12 I think. Being in southern NH my father took me to Battleship Cove. Even at the young age I was, I was fascinated with war ships. Mostly Battleships. Touring the Massachusetts and other vessels has stayed with me clearly all these years. You don't know exactly how big a battleship is until you are walking up the gangway.. incredible

[@fsctrucking]

USS Yorktown isn't in good shape either. Look at the picture. She does not float. She sits in the mud. The tide rises and falls around her. The access ramps to get on her are concrete and do not move. That can't be good for her bottom.

[@jaycooper2812]

It's amazing that you mentioned the U.S.S. Sullivan's here because she sank at her mooring about 4 months later.

[@crazyeyez1502]

Glad you mentioned the United States. Was wondering if you would when started on the QE, as you can probably see the US from the top of BBNJ. Keep up the great work.

[@testosteronetom7366]

When I was a Sea Cadet I spent a week in the buffalo Naval park aboard USS Little Rock doing a leadership academy hosted by the aptly named Sullivans Division. They always made sure people got the ships history and story right, sometimes even nitpicking the tour guides. Im almost certain that their reputation of being the richest sea cadet unit and their love of The Sullivans made them first in line to donate over some cash.

[@KPen3750]

I think with Taney there has to be a way to acknowledge the namesake of the ship, without taking away her identity or importance. With United States, they are planning to renovate and turn her into a cultural center for the city of Philadelphia. They have mentioned that while the paint looks rough, her hull is pretty sound structurally. Plus she does have ties to the US Navy because her propulsion plant is all navy grade stuff

[@garomcfbgdd3211]

Sadly, many People today have become unreasonably angry and I fear would destroy a piece of history out of misdirected indignation.

[@markwilliams2620]

I know about the Tawney at Pearl in third grade. I knew about Justice Rodger Tawney. In 10th grade. His writings on the Dred Scott Decision was attempting to end the slavery question finally. Instead he lit the fuse that ended up causing that God awful War. Market it as such....a new view of an old vision. Allow scholl kids on cheap. Enforce standard navy discipline with Marines. It will work. It will be a safe place to learn and play.

[@aj-2savage896]

@@garomcfbgdd3211 Absolutely correct.

[@user-wl7pj7xt4v]

I’m glad the lightship Columbia isn’t on here, I have a lot of good memories on that boat and the museum that supports her.

[@93FORDMUSTANG]

Glad you mentioned clamagore. My grandfather served on her 70-74. Ive toured her twice. A shame patriots point has let her decay to her current condition. I wish there was more that could be done. If there is anything you can think of we can do to support her. Please let me know.

[@jedijake3878]

Texas is one of my favorite ships

[@jerredwayne8401]

It is my favorite

[@Major-Kong]

I live in Sydney Australia, we have an old Destroyer (HMAS Vampire) and a Sub (HMAS Onslow), both have been to the Drydock in Garden island naval yard within the last 5 years.

[@wheels-n-tires1846]

Am curious how you go about watching for deterioration?? For instance, whenever it rains do you and all the volunteers go look through every compartment for leaks? Do you have a comprehensive daily, weekly, or monthly inspection walkthrough? Just wondering how you organize the efforts to stay ahead of deterioration, while continuing to restore additional spaces...

[@BattleshipNewJersey]

We do an annual walk through of the whole ship then keep track of those that leak and check on them when it rains. Its always the same few spots. Otherwise, we have weekly and monthly checks of the tanks, looking for increases or decreases in water levels, checks of the cathodic protection monthly and quarterly, checks of the fire suppression as required by the local Fire Department. Deterioration is slow, so we get to spaces when we get to them and triage. Everyone has their jobs and specialties so as we see issues we call the right person, whether that's our beloved plumber or the guy who touches up the murals.

[@bentley4446]

More good content, thanks. Just hearing about the Taney situation , I’m from Baltimore and I’ve been on all the inner harbor vessels many times. There’s no good solution for “Taney” in these polarizing times. Very sad

[@amerigo88]

As a member of a longtime Coast Guard family, including WWII service in Hawaii, I recommend marketing her as "US Coast Guard Cutter - WHEC-37". She could also be referenced as "The RBT." Military historians remember plenty of U-boats and I-boats even though they only had numbers. Chief Justice Taney was a hot mess, however. Perhaps the Coast Guard and/or Congress could just officially rename the vessel as WHEC-37, with that designation never to be reused given the historical significance of the vessel. Some public relations expert probably has a lot more ideas as to how to deal with the name problem. Some pariahs can be redeemed with enough money and the right publicity.

[@Shootkicksass]

@@amerigo88 Googling it, it seems that's what they've done. Wonder if they couldn't just rename her.

[@the4tierbridge]

@@amerigo88 Better idea: We say that USCGC Tanney was named after the previous USCGC Tanney, not the politician.

[@christopherlordon7457]

Just a suggestion; but instead of focusing on who she was named after, perhaps more emphasis should be put on her 50+ years of service especially being the last sole "fighting" ship still afloat that survived the attack on Pearl Harbor.

[@nohands3255]

How do you know if a ship can support dry dock blocks? Do the ships have a manual on where to put the blocks?

[@dabluesgarage]

Most ships have a dry dock plan onboard that tell a shipyard/drydock where to place blocks.

[@roundy_roundy6064]

I love the content you produce on this channel. Keep up the great work.

[@MrSchnebs]

Ryan, thanks for the mentions of QUEEN MARY and UNITED STATES in your video. There aren’t many examples of the great ocean liners left any more (the only others I can think of are QUEEN ELIZABETH 2 and ROTTERDAM), and they deserved to be preserved and supported, too. This isn’t the first time QUEEN MARY and her operators have gotten into dire financial straits, so hopefully the operators and the City of Long Beach can come up with a plan to keep at least the museum operating.

[@danielsummey4144]

In that view of #9, the USCG ship, is that an HVAC unit on deck?

[@robertbryce7626]

Has there been an update to this? Battleship Texas is now out of drydock and is being fully restored, USS The Sullivans sank at the pier, was refloated and repaired, USS Clamagore has been scrapped, Queen Mary being repaired, etc.

[@miguelhidalgo9372]

Many moons ago, I had the honor of symbolically swabbing the deck of the glorious battleship New Jersey while in the reserves in Long Beach. Today, I am a volunteer at the San Diego Maritime Museum. I am committed to restoring the Medea, an absolutely gorgeous steam yatch that is over 100 years old! We got the Midway in the next dock in tip top shape.

[@jamescodyjones]

How do you feel about the USS Batfidh in Muskogee, OK?

[@AC_WILDCARD]

I visited her in November of 2019 and she looked good, I think provided the funding keeps on coming in, her and the museum will be in good shape. But this past year I didn't go up there so dunno if they moved her back into position or not.

[@jandajanda2242]

I am really sad about the state of the clamagore. I have so many great memories of seeing her at patriots point as a kid

[@dannymiller3315]

I saw her she is rusty and has huge holes in her she is more than likely going to be a reef

[@RalphReagan]

Thank you for talking about the Olympia.

[@maxhauler]

Thank you for your work! This is very important. Now more than ever, that we remember.

[@dutchglobetrotter4513]

I sometimes work on a 60ft sailing yacht, finding a leak can take days. No wonder yours take months.

[@jerredwayne8401]

I wouldn't be surprised if Texas is on this list. But seeing as she has been repaired structurally and has a plan to go to drydock for hull repair personally i wouldn't put it high on the list

[@jerredwayne8401]

@@pdmacguire its not in the mud. Texas floats unless the tides especially low

[@jerredwayne8401]

@@pdmacguire they don't have the resources to restore the ship to original configuration

[@MrTexasDan]

@@pdmacguire They made a huge thing about their restored Bofors guns ... there's no way they go back to the original, or even WW1 configuration. That being said, I could live without the blisters if it meant a better hull restoration for her.

[@jerredwayne8401]

@Edgar Miller she needs love no doubt. But I wouldn't say she's in terrible shape.

[@mikehancho800]

her machinery is not the problem really. the 40's are actually in like new shape. her problems are deep in the ship, they are having to replace all of the structural supports deep in the ship so when she go's into drydock she does not just collapse. she has had a lot of leaks over the years so all the load bearing structure deep in the ship is compromised. but they have been going in for a few years now and rebuilding all of it and patching holes that are leaking along the way, just a very long process. they actually have some videos showing the work they are doing online, worth a watch. also after the drydock they are planning on having her out of the water so they do not have these problems again.

[@420funny6]

How do you ask people to donate to taney? Tell them to grow tf up, save GOOD history and move on

[@66WDB]

As always- what a great video Ryan. A lot of museum ships are really well done and appear to be in good material shape- the battleships North Carolina, Alabama, Wisky, Missouri. On the other hand, I feel sorry for Patriots Point, the Yorktown despite their work always seem to look forelorn (rust and peeling paint.) The Laffey down there nearly sank with a bunch of vets on her several years ago, which at least got it into drydock for proper repair work.

[@roguelead72]

I was there last week, Cleghorne looks really bad, the pressure hull's exposed.

[@MutsumiOtohime78]

When I went to the USS Yorktown last year I actually enjoyed it a lot it looked just as good as the USS Midway when I visited it. USS Hornet is the carrier I think is in the worst condition, she was rusting everywhere interior wise and her flight deck looked like complete crap and barely had any planes on it anyway.

[@thomasgoller7621]

I know the leader of the group that was trying to get the Ling brought to Louisville as a museum. He told me the local government was unwilling to support to project and finding funding was proving very difficult. I was going to volunteer to help on the project if it ever came to Louisville. Sad that the local government here in the Louisville area doesn't care about anything that doesn't involve horses or horse racing.

[@nogoodnameleft]

The Ling is done. Will get scrapped eventually. Nobody claims ownership of her anymore and nobody wants to do anything. They can't even move her to a scrapyard. They will have to scrap her in situ. USS Clamagore was scrapped recently too.

[@adamlewellen5081]

I saw the ships main compass on the hornet, do the iowa's have a similar space?

[@BattleshipNewJersey]

Weve got many compasses and repeaters. Are you looking for the bridge? Check out our videos on the conning tower

[@adamlewellen5081]

@@BattleshipNewJersey no. Not sure if it even applies to bbs ships. But the cv12 hornet had a small space low and midship that was the ships master compass and a nav station. It sent a signals the the rest of the compass abord... Was a decade ago.....

[@BattleshipNewJersey]

This video includes central Station which has the big gyro, which might be what you're looking for kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZjHeIqtbK-jr9E

[@adamlewellen5081]

@@BattleshipNewJersey yes sir!!! This is it.. thx much sir. Do you have any videos on docking and shore operations? I.e. coming to home port? Thx

[@Capri42PRG]

Over in the UK I'm worried about HMS Bristol. She's a Falklands war veteran that's just been decommissioned. There are hopes she'll be made into a museum ship but we have a terrible history of preserving historic ships who knows if that will happen

[@stephenchappell7512]

Sadly I doubt she'll last that long. If we're not capable of saving Hermes, we're not capable of saving anything! :(

[@Capri42PRG]

@@stephenchappell7512 unfortunately I think you might be right

[@stephenchappell7512]

@Vincent Van Der Hyde The globalists in power dislike symbols of nationhood. They cannot be trusted with our heritage.

[@lloydknighten5071]

Ryan, of all the ships you mentioned in your Most Endangered Museums List, I think that USS OLYMPIA should be moved to the top. As you pointed out, she hasn't been drydocked in 76 years. And judging from the photos I have seen and what I have read over the years, she is in danger of sinking at her moorings . . . just like the USS HARTFORD, Admiral D. G. Farragut's flagship did in the late 1940's. I hope that she and USS TEXAS are not to far gone to save. TEXAS is the last Dreadnought era battleship. And OLYMPIA, along with Greece's GEORGIO AVEROFF is one of the last protected cruisers. The loss of these ships would be truly tragic.

[@mikepenn8273]

It would be cool to see a video comparing the iowas against eachother. Ie a WWII Iowa vs wisconsin in its current state

[@BattleshipNewJersey]

Check these out kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqSmqod_o8-BpNE kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaGoq4BsqdSeotE kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJ6oo3qig5VsZpI kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3KnmGypq89oedE

[@PresidentoftheManosquare]

Wisconsin! Woot. Best ship cuz Wisconsin pride...

[@justaguynamedmax8207]

@@PresidentoftheManosquare sorry, Mighty MO for the win.

[@tominiowa2513]

@@PresidentoftheManosquare - They need to sell Spotted Cow to people touring BB-64.

[@stephenchappell7512]

Sadly the survival of all of the Iowa's has been to the detriment of others on this list.

[@williamaprewittjr337]

As of June 2021, In case you are unaware, battleship Texas will be open to the public for two days only on July 3rd-4th, 2021, only to show her upper decks. Also the new owners don’t plan to move her during the hurricane season, so most likely she’ll be moved spring of 2022. Battleship Texas also shows she can float since her on site repairs.

[@axysdnyd]

According to Patriots Point website, the USS Clamagore is open and able to be visited. Last time I was there, she was being worked on and some areas were being restored. It wasn't in the best shape but she is still being worked on.

[@lilidutour3617]

When did you visit Patriots Point? This is Lili's husband and I'm a volunteer there. Clamagore hasn't been open since the virus insanity started. Prior to that I saw NO RESTORATION of any kind taking place. The museum hasn't done anything in 10+ years.

[@axysdnyd]

@@lilidutour3617 I was there about 3 years ago and I saw parts of the outer hull removed. There were a couple of people working on something there and there was what looked like temporary work scaffolding around he aft section of the sub. I wish my phone battery hadn't died while I was on the Laffey or I would've gotten pictures.

[@lilidutour3617]

@@axysdnyd Matt, I don't know what they were doing at that time but the job you saw was started over 10+ years ago. A new director came in and he stopped all work immediately. The work crew wasn't even allowed to finish what they'd started. Everything is as they left it over 10 years ago. The narrative has been and remains that this vessel is an ecological disaster waiting to happen and we me do something NOW! If they fix it up and make it look nice the picture no longer supports the narrative. Viola! No more work and make sure it looks like crap.

[@axysdnyd]

@@lilidutour3617 well damn, that's bullshit..... Shouldn't leave a ship to just rot away like that, especially if that ship has historic significance

[@swinedance]

This was a great informative video. Running museum ships is obviously a tough business. At the other end of the spectrum, I'd like to see and hear your opinion of the top ten best run museum ships and what makes them successful. Thanks.

[@lindaterrell5535]

I was on board the Constellation years ago. It was in dreadful shape then. We were able to go right to the keel and see the ballast still there.

[@ghost307]

What do you do to prepare the rusted steel before welding in a patch? Rust is pretty hard to stop once it gets a foothold.

[@BattleshipNewJersey]

Needlegunning off the rust is basically scraping the rust off. It then gets primed and painted.

[@ghost307]

@@BattleshipNewJersey Thanks.

[@aj-2savage896]

For welding, you need to cut out the areas rusted through or almost rusted through. You can really only weld a patch onto good metal, otherwise it won't last.

[@kidnamedfinger6323]

Got to go on The Sullivans a few weeks ago along with the other ships in buffalo.

[@watomb]

That submarine that’s stuck in NJ USS Ling (SS-297)

[@ChrsGuit]

I used to think so... but unfortunately, it's not really historically significant... It didn't participate in world War two, and was only active for just a year before deactivation... Years later, it was used for training, but that was pretty much it...

[@watomb]

@@ChrsGuit totally correct I understood that

[@ChrsGuit]

@@watomb regardless, it's a ww2 era submarine, and I would love to see it saved. it's historic no matter it's service record... I still am amazed, of all ships, uss enterprise wasn't saved from scrapping

[@wheels-n-tires1846]

@Edgar Miller I think Long Beach was very much gutted during deactivation. I think shes just a hull now, beleive the superstructure is gone, so not much left to save...

[@shawnpavlik209]

I work at the boat yard where the hiddensea was scrapped. Was a cool boat. Even when they were cutting her up we all Commented on how good of shape it was in. Insane the amount of bottom growth on that ship.

[@þþþþþþþþþ]

Playing the Taney (sp?) dry dock move backwards is brilliant.

[@BattleshipNewJersey]

I had expected the ship to move bow first so set up my camera to do so and then by the time we had established she was going to do the entire trip backwards it was too late to change it. It worked out ok ish though!

[@chrisnichols7607]

@@BattleshipNewJersey I would think that being so close to the Coast Guard Yard at Hawkins Point has been a benefit for the (ex) TANEY. Was it your experience that the CG Yard folks were enthusiastic about working on her given her CG service? BTW, I'm career CG (active 23 yrs) and now a civilian servant with them. Sad to see TANEY get snared in today's cancel culture.

[@scottjackson1420]

Is the Texas again open to the public for visitors? We're likely to go the Houston area, and a day on Texas is a centerpiece of my visit.

[@BattleshipNewJersey]

Texas has not reopened, she is still in drydock. They are doing tours under the ship while she's out of the water though.

[@nogoodnameleft]

She's in Galveston. Will not be open to public until late 2025/early 2026. They plan to do repairwork on her through August 2025, possibly longer.

[@andytidnits]

Regarding upper deck leaks, have you considered using dyes on a known source on an upper deck and then seeing where that dye winds up?

[@chrisblakey9116]

I live 10 minutes from the USS Texas. They drydocked her in 89 at Todd ship yard in Galvestonto do an extensive bottom job. She took on water heading down the Houston ship channel and Galveston bay, and crossed into the dry dock with 6 inched of draft to spare, as the story goes. Once the hull was patched up, they towed her to a dock on green's bayou to do superstructure work and restore the wooden deck. My dad took my sister and I up greens bayou in his boat and we motored by her with our hands dragging against her hull at the water line. You can't buy memories like that. There's a picture of us somewhere touching the hull from the boat.

[@MartinCHorowitz]

I live in Long Beach, The Queen Mary is owned by Long Beach, and was considered profitable before Covid, but in Need of work. The Ship has a Hotel, Bar and restaurants, Museum, and held Monthly Special events. It also includes an event space which was sometimes used for moving filming (Mostly inside the dome that was used for the Spruce Goose). All of the activity stopped during Covid. The company that has the QM operating lease runs several Hotels in Socal and is in trouble with the leases on many of them. If it does reopen, it is just across a Bridge from San Pedro home of the USS Iowa and SS VIctory Lane and would be the right place for a ships historian to stay for the night. The Hotel rooms are the former First Class State rooms of the ship, many with the prewar furnishings installed. The City of Long Beach has an intangible source of income from the ship due to the Queen Mary effect. real estate with a view of the ship brings in more tax revenue than other similar locations and is the Symbol of the City.

[@grunnyg6693]

I was at Patriot's point in August of 21. Clamagore was in really poor condition and closed. Also visited the Olympia for the first time in April of 21. Donated to both. I hope to see the New Jersey this spring.

[@gunslinger4203]

In 1981 I took my daughter on the Ling ! She was 6 ! It was a very nice tour ! I flew over the Battleship New Jersey in 1968 when I was in the Navy off the coast of Cuba ! It was so beautiful and the deck was magnificent looking ! At leas t from about 3000- 5000 feet ! It was on its way to Vietnam!

[@earlcollinsworth4914]

Could you do something on the Jeremiah O'brien?

[@CalifgalCindy1]

I recently read about the lighthouse ship, Barnegat LV79, which is just north of the New Jersey in a small marina in Camden, it has a interesting history and is currently in mud without any organization to protect her. Happy to hear you mention the Olympia, a which brought the WWI unknown soldier home to be entombed in Washington. Also the SS United States, a speed record holder in real danger of being scrapped, thank you for mentioning her.

[@kellylt1620]

I think that USS LCS(L)(3)-102 (i.e. Landing Craft Support, Large, Mark 3), moored at the former Mare Island Naval Ship Yard in Vallejo, CA, deserves mention. She is the last of the 130 "Mighty Midgets" (because pound for pound they were the most heavily armed US Navy vessels) which were built during the latter half of WW2 to provide close-in and ongoing fire support for amphibious landings. With a length of 158', a beam of 23'-6", and a draft of only 5'-8" they were the smallest, self deploying, blue water, US ships of the war. It is fascinating imagining her compliment of 6 officers and 65 enlisted working and living in such a small space. My grandfather served on LCS(L)(3)-37 at the Battle of Okinawa; supporting the amphibious landing, but seeing its heaviest action while performing radar picket duty, defending against Japanese "Kamikaze" attacks, suicide motorboats (which heavily damaged her on April 28, 1945), etc. When we last visited her in 2016, the staff gave my family and I a very thorough and personal guided tour of virtually every space on the ship which greatly aided my understanding of my grandfather's wartime service. Her small size lends itself to this type of intimate experience, but probably also negatively impacts her attendance and financial support. The LCS(L)(3)'s, as well as LCI(L)'s -713 (Portland, OR) and -1091 (Eureka, CA), which share a common hull design, are important elements of WW2 amphibious warfare history and deserve to be preserved.

[@MrJeep75]

I help restored the 713 also love the lcs

[@HaddaClu]

After finding out about The Sullivan's; one thing I noticed after watching the Military Park's youtube channel is that Little Rock also has issues with taking on water from time to time - just not as much. IF that organization manages to get any of their vessels into drydock for major hull repair I hope they put anti-fouling paint on the hull so the zebra mussels wont latch on and accelerate the corrosion. That was the reason given in the youtube vids by the curator at least.

[@drewfullhart1750]

I love these top ten videos

[@teescottageguyproductions]

6:44 can Taney still work under her own power?

[@BattleshipNewJersey]

No

[@mikeowen9268]

Thanks for posting about the USS Texas. I find more information from you than I do from any other source on her current disposition. The World of Warships video game has produced some good content about her as well.

[@08alphawolf]

The Texas was moved today from her place Battleground Park to Galveston to be in drydock for around 12 to 14 months

[@karlsenula9495]

Curious what assets have been divested?

[@aw34565]

Remember what happened to HMS Plymouth after the collapse of the Warship Preservation Trust. The Argentine surrender of South Georgia was signed in her wardroom, yet she was allowed to rot in Birkenhead docks before being towed for scrap in Turkey. Another of their ships, LCT 7074, the last surviving tank landing craft that took part in D-Day is now at the D-Day museum in Portsmouth.

[@dbfbobt]

I'm most familiar with Pampanito and Turner Joy. Hope they are doing well. My first boat, Sea Devil SS-400 was same class as Pampanito.

[@nikolasproctor7061]

I know WhisKy won't be on the list. I've been on her literally dozens of times. She needs a new coat of paint, but rust is minimal. She is in pretty good shape

[@jordansayas3957]

Wish they move Whisky to her name state. it be cool to have a battleship on the great lakes. perhaps the cold wouldn't do her favors tho. ;(

[@BattleshipNewJersey]

Wisconsin doesn't fit in the canals. She could never get to the lakes.

[@legogenius1667]

That reminds me of the Hornet here in California. There's a lot of flaking paint and in some patches the exterior looks rough, but structurally the ship's still going strong!

[@tominiowa2513]

@@BattleshipNewJersey - Just like USS Iowa could not be moved up the Mississippi River to the Quad Cities.

[@ghost307]

@@BattleshipNewJersey The great lakes have unique challenges compared to the oceans. The Navy is even limited as to what hull types they can bring to Chicago for special events.

[@jamesdavis5096]

the buttons area all covers up; I cant push them. Arn't there ANY buttons I can push?

[@BattleshipNewJersey]

i had a group of adults last year that I was showing one of the 5in mounts to and told them that they are still functional weapons so they shouldn't push the buttons in there. Immediately the lights went out because of course, someone pushed the button. And of course he couldn't remember where the switch was even though he just pushed it.

[@TheTripleAce3]

Would you say there are any threats to the North Carolina? I've had a hard time really finding much information on her state of repair.

[@BattleshipNewJersey]

All of these ships are facing a tough time in the pandemic. But she's got some really innovative repair method for her hull that we think could be the standard going forward so from a maintenance standpoint and a "does their museum actually function" standpoint, she's in very good hands.

[@TheTripleAce3]

@@BattleshipNewJersey That was an incredibly fast reply, thank you! One of the few stories I found said that the mud she was in had preserved her hull quite well, so that and what you've said definitely give it a good outlook.

[@almirria6753]

Ours in Mo. is on the bottom of the Mississippi River [USS Inaugural, St. Louis, Mo.]

[@nicholasmarshall9128]

Atleast Missouri has the USS Aires, or does that count

[@almirria6753]

@@nicholasmarshall9128 She is not open to the public, they are still trying to raise the funds for the restoration & other infrastructures for it. If they can not do that, then it would be sold to a private owner/s.

[@Will_DiGiorgio]

If I remember correctly, the cold molding repair of the Constellation was supposed to be the end all be all repair... I remember asking a museum employee after she came back why she was making so much water after such a large refit, he said it was normal... I thought he was full of it then, and I thank you Ryan for confirming that.

[@BattleshipNewJersey]

Wooden ships always leak

[@Will_DiGiorgio]

@@BattleshipNewJersey I seem to remember fire hose shooting continuous streams of water... That's alot of water to make in a relatively calm sheltered harbor.

[@aj-2savage896]

If done perfectly. Many air gaps were left. Air gaps hold rainwater, which causes rot in inaccessible places. Hill sheathing planks were sawn partway through to make them bend, which didn't help. It was more about helping local "at-risk" folks than about saving the ship. So we wound up with an at-risk ship right from the start.

[@johntroy426]

I know freedom park in omaha ne has volunteer weekends to help do work on the ship. They use sea cadets, So that is one option to consider for scraping and painting. Thank you for what you do in keeping the museum ships going.

[@sirboomsalot4902]

If I recall correctly, didn’t they originally restore Constellation to look like the original frigate as it was a common myth that they were the same ship?

[@mcallahan9060]

I toured the Constellation 1995 and remember the the tour guides at the time were claiming the ship was the original frigate.

[@BattleshipNewJersey]

The original restoration of Constellation called for her to be superficially made to look like the frigate for a major anniversary. And they just kind of left it that way leaving her to be thought of as the frigate for so long by so many that it kind of just became her story. By the 90s it was well established that this had happened and they were working to fix those errors but the myth still persists to this day.

[@aj-2savage896]

FDR told them to do whatever half-ass thing was necessary to make it emulate the original frigate, and that was perpetuated over the years. Cutting a huge opening in the weather deck to achieve that way back when significantly weakened the hull. The original frigate Constellation was broken up at one location and the present one was built in a different location nearby. A few original pieces crossed over, as did some equipage, etc. ON PAPER, the Navy "rebuilt" the original, so it is the "same" Constellation in that sense. Materially, it is a different ship, built to a different design. When Congress gets cheap, you are allowed to rehab and upgrade and repair because that's the money they give you. They didn't provide money for a "new" ship. I've seen the same thing happen in military construction into recent times.

[@chrism5329]

USNS Hiddensee at Battleship Cove in Fall River, Ma

[@nogoodnameleft]

Scrapped now. Clamagore too. Ling is all but dead, abandoned and nobody owns her anymore but trapped from being moved to sea.

[@adamdubin1276]

USS Ling wasn't actually sunk by vandals, After she was refloated it was found that a section of her hull rusted through and allowed water to flood her. She is after all sitting in a river that until recently was heavily polluted by local industry which tends to do nasty things to steel.

[@christopherwilson6724]

when dry docking a museum ship, why isn't the hull below the waterline coated with a rubberized or plastic coating like submarines to add longevity to the repair? It would not be seen but it seems it would add a layer of protection that is easier to replace than steel. Please explain beyond just cost please. Does the technology not exist?

[@BattleshipNewJersey]

They do get special coatings designed to combat growth and rust.

[@aj-2savage896]

Rubber coatings on subs are for acoustic stealth, not as a protective layer. Also, these days you are limited by being forced to use environmentally friendly coatings as opposed to what has shown itself to work best in the past. This usually involves some compromise in coating performance. It has come a long way though in the last 20 years. F-22 fighters and USS Theodore Roosevelt are compromised by the "green" coatings used during construction.