Top 10 Worst Legendary Creatures to be your Commander

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TheManaLogs

TheManaLogs

Күн бұрын

One of the main draws of Commander as a format are the commanders. Being able to build your entire deck knowing that you have access to a specific card allows you to go for strategies that you normally wouldn’t consider. However, not every Commander is built the same, and some Commanders make you jump through a ton of hoops to do anything or just don’t work in format for some reason or another. There are far more than ten cards that fit this category, but today, we’re going to go over some of the most egregious examples.
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├ The List
Intro: (0:00)
10: Barktooth Warbeard: (0:23)
9: Bortuk Bonerattle: (2:18)
8: Arashi, the Sky Asunder / Jiwari, the Earth Aflame: (4:10)
7: Tetzimoc, Primal Death: (6:26)
6: Niambi, Faithful Healer: (7:45)
5: Phage the Untouchable: (9:26)
4: The Unspeakable: (10:45)
3: Cho-Manno, Revolutionary: (13:23)
2: Odric, the Blood Cursed: (15:19)
1: Grandmother Sengir: (17:11)
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(Just a note, we have people who actually know the game very well making the scripts for this channel. As the owner of the channel (Theduellogs/hirumaredx) is a total newbie to the game.)

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@Oimfiel
@Oimfiel 10 ай бұрын
My favourite bad commander has to be Isao, Enlightened Bushi A mono green samurai commander that lets you regenerate target samurai. Not counting changelings there are five green samurai in the game.
@InsanityBlitz
@InsanityBlitz 10 ай бұрын
Made him a Voltron deck, it was terrible mid
@LadyTsunade777
@LadyTsunade777 10 ай бұрын
The same problem also happens with Kentaro, the Smiling Cat. He lets you cast Samurai spells for X, where X is their cmc; basically letting you ignore any colored mana in their mana costs. No need to worry about color fixing. _But_ he's mono-White.
@adriannaranjo4397
@adriannaranjo4397 10 ай бұрын
@@LadyTsunade777 That's hilarious
@juter1122
@juter1122 10 ай бұрын
​@@LadyTsunade777 put him in a 5c deck
@theodorereggiardo77
@theodorereggiardo77 10 ай бұрын
@@LadyTsunade777 Spice8rack did do an impressive Kentaro combo deck, and it looked interesting. So there's at least potential since that mana fixing ability of his can be abused
@U1TR4F0RCE
@U1TR4F0RCE 10 ай бұрын
I had to replay 6:46 to make sure I didn’t miss hear rivals of ixalan as rivals of izaelia
@lukasazdanovic6477
@lukasazdanovic6477 8 ай бұрын
Rivals of Izalia caught me off guard, saying Ordic 56 times had me dyyiinngg
@cax1175
@cax1175 10 ай бұрын
I run a deck with Chandler, from Homelands, as the commander. How many people can say they run a commander who shares their name?
@darthsnarf
@darthsnarf 10 ай бұрын
my real name is K'rrik
@AwakenedAvocado
@AwakenedAvocado 10 ай бұрын
I run a deck with Chandler from friends. Interestingly, a Chandler means maker of candles.
@cax1175
@cax1175 10 ай бұрын
​@@AwakenedAvocadoMy name comes from the meaning, not the TV show.
@rocksy7156
@rocksy7156 10 ай бұрын
Hello fellow Chandler
@GenesisAkaG
@GenesisAkaG 10 ай бұрын
Having my name legally changed would be cheaper than some EDH decks tbh.
@Oimfiel
@Oimfiel 10 ай бұрын
6:46 YGO players really do have problems with names
@ASCP_Certified
@ASCP_Certified 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for making a list of potential commanders for my 2 power level groups.
@wvanhuss4190
@wvanhuss4190 10 ай бұрын
It's hard to get past how he pronounces cards 😂. Adding an r to Odric is wild. Pronouncing it Or-dic instead of Od-ric
@anthonycobb4867
@anthonycobb4867 10 ай бұрын
He just saying ordic
@xxRaynedonxx
@xxRaynedonxx 10 ай бұрын
And rivals of “izalan”
@ReyosBlackwood
@ReyosBlackwood 10 ай бұрын
not adding, transposing. but yeah the guy is really REALLY bad at reading. Honestly at this point I wonder if this is intentional to get engagement in the comments which figures into the youtube algorithm or if the guy really just has a grade school reading level or massive dyslexia.
@alexrowe9957
@alexrowe9957 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, I think he's a AI generated voice. Either that, or he does it on purpose to drive engagement
@ReyosBlackwood
@ReyosBlackwood 10 ай бұрын
@@alexrowe9957 definitely not ai generated, ai would mispronounce things, sure, but it would get the letters and their order right, it wouldn't replace the x with a z in Ixalan or swap the r and d in Odric.
@marcusthompson3431
@marcusthompson3431 10 ай бұрын
No mention of Haakon, Stromgald Scourge. Who can never be cast if he's your commander and the amount of hoops to get him into your graveyard to cast.
@SergioGarsiaSolano
@SergioGarsiaSolano 10 ай бұрын
They let out a lot of cards like the grandeur legends than need copies of themselves to be able to use they're better effects but let odric in f second place because "hE wAs A lEtDoWn" This list was a joke
@cartervaill3043
@cartervaill3043 10 ай бұрын
He was the first card that came to mind when I saw this video. When I first started playing magic I tried to design a haakon deck because a graveyard knight tribal would be so cool until I realized he couldn't be cast from the command zone
@Millardfunderburg
@Millardfunderburg 10 ай бұрын
Ah, sad little Haakon, the commander with an interesting effect but has effectively banned himself from ever being a commander in Commander.
@raynmanshorts9275
@raynmanshorts9275 9 ай бұрын
When I played paper Magic, my play group was the rec room at Job Corps. The rec advisor that was the entire reason why there was a Magic play group in the first place had a Haakon deck (not EDH, just a standard 60 card deck). Because I didn't understand about discard or self-mill at the time, I didn't get how it was even possible to play him.
@Tealmaker
@Tealmaker 9 ай бұрын
What does EDH mean?
@Stinkoman87
@Stinkoman87 10 ай бұрын
How about Brothers Yamakazi? You can have two out at once and if you do get two they both get a decent bonus, but Commanders singleton rule still applies, so in order to turn it on you need a clone effect, which is preciously rare in mono red.
@Synavis
@Synavis 10 ай бұрын
I'm trying to figure that one out since I have started playing commander. Cards with my family name are only uncommons :(
@marcusramirez8181
@marcusramirez8181 10 ай бұрын
I'm actually making a commander deck with Brothers and a bunch of red/colorless clone effects
@ReederMG
@ReederMG 10 ай бұрын
I came to say the same thing. It's the first card that came to my head when I saw the video title.
@DigiTism
@DigiTism 10 ай бұрын
It’s wild to think at some point in time card designers and players didn’t think, “People want to win so it’s a natural tendency for players to put cards in their deck which do the most for the least” and instead thought, “It’s inherently good because it’s duel color. Let’s nerf it!”
@Aliens1337
@Aliens1337 10 ай бұрын
Magic was thought to be an extremely casual game, like friends playing with each others on their kitchen table. The design team didn't balance around meta or card powers, they care more about making cool flavors or unique effects. That was why early Magic has insanely powerful cards like Black Lotus or Time Walk. The designers knew full well that those cards are broken, but they still printed them because they thought casual players would just be getting a random one or two copies in their decks and not getting 4x copies to optimize their chances of drawing those cards. Early early Magic was a lot more different than the modern day hyper competitive Magic.
@charlieblocher7456
@charlieblocher7456 10 ай бұрын
I'm surprised that Haakon didn't make the list. He's another commander that suffers for being in the Command Zone.
@Samagachi
@Samagachi 10 ай бұрын
He looks like a good card otherwise
@Magnolius22
@Magnolius22 3 ай бұрын
Also iname as one
@Its109TheGamer
@Its109TheGamer 10 ай бұрын
6:46 ah yes, my favorite set. Rivals of Izalia How did you butcher Ixalan that hard?
@delathenleso5793
@delathenleso5793 10 ай бұрын
By not playing the game or knowing anything about it.
@Lcngopher
@Lcngopher 10 ай бұрын
By not being told the official pronunciation when creating the episode
@Padilla1
@Padilla1 10 ай бұрын
By wanting you to comment about it
@delathenleso5793
@delathenleso5793 10 ай бұрын
@@Padilla1 *shrug* stupidity driving engagement is still stupidity, and the well of sympathy will dry up long before this loser's bills will.
@josephrobertson5445
@josephrobertson5445 10 ай бұрын
Cho-Manno at least combos with Pariah and Pariah shield, both of which white can search. Haakon meanwhile definitely deserves a spot on this list, for being literally impossible to cast from the command zone, so you have to tutor out a card to add him to hand and then discard him to do literally anything.
@MegaGrip13
@MegaGrip13 10 ай бұрын
Was literally about to comment this. Cho-Manno has a few prison style soft locks you can do with him.
@ellieofthebeast7952
@ellieofthebeast7952 10 ай бұрын
Was gonna comment exactly this. I have a friend who built this deck, and it was busted.
@Narakiomal
@Narakiomal 10 ай бұрын
Phage may be a super bizarre card but I have always loved her ever since I opened her up back in 10th edition so she has a soft spot in my heart (also the whole lore behind her as Jeska and Karona is so good) I just can't help but love her and have a super fucked up and trolly "gift away" deck o her XD.
@obliviouslich1722
@obliviouslich1722 10 ай бұрын
I love the idea of those decks? Have the card list anywhere to see?
@ReyosBlackwood
@ReyosBlackwood 10 ай бұрын
Phage and endless whispers, with phyrexian reclamation to replay her and any sac outlet
@7ItalianStallion
@7ItalianStallion 10 ай бұрын
Yeah I remember when she first came out in Legions. I pulled Akroma and my friend pulled Phage. The story was really cool I had the books from the fat packs. Kamahl was badass too and how Akroma was created by Ixidor 😁
@ReyosBlackwood
@ReyosBlackwood 10 ай бұрын
@@7ItalianStallion i miss the books coming with the product.
@njmfff
@njmfff 6 ай бұрын
@@7ItalianStallion Phage was my first rare from Legions, and I used her in my reanimator deck. There was this enchantment that reanimated creatures from graveyard under next player's turn, so if you Entomb her she reanimates under their control next turn and this triggers her ability and they lose game because they didn't play her from hand. Also I use to have her red barb variant and Kamahl in both red and green variant. Green druid Kamahl was dope, he had built-in Overrun, which I used in my beast deck, but sometimes swap him into my joke squirrel deck. It's all fun and games till bunch of squirrel tokens Overrun you.
@taylor3621
@taylor3621 10 ай бұрын
Surprised to not see the Myojin on this list. They're basically just overcosted spirits in the Command zone
@MaestroAlvis
@MaestroAlvis 10 ай бұрын
9:46 they really need an overcosted sorcery that puts a commander directly into your hand
@dyciefisk2535
@dyciefisk2535 10 ай бұрын
There are actually multiple cards that do so, most of them are permanents so they can be used multiple times. Edit: Those that I can see are Campfire, Command Beacon, Netherborn Altar, Road of Return. Although that last one is off-colour.
@Dovirr
@Dovirr 10 ай бұрын
Take a drink every time Odric's name gets butchered. 🥃💀⚰
@DatShepTho
@DatShepTho 10 ай бұрын
Bleughhh
@kozad86
@kozad86 2 ай бұрын
Fuuuu... my bottle is empty now. :( Seriously, how someone gonna do an MTG channel and not even try to pronounce stuff? Dude also calls Slivers "silvers" instead, as if they're a purse of coins.
@Atmapalazzo
@Atmapalazzo 10 ай бұрын
The top three feel odd. Considering how most of them are cards that don't properly function in the command zone or on the battlefield, I expected Brothers Yamazaki; Haakon, Stromgald Scourge; or any of the Grandeur commanders.
@willmiller1179
@willmiller1179 10 ай бұрын
"Ordic" now lives rent free in my head
@ianford9221
@ianford9221 10 ай бұрын
ordic is my fave character from innistrad
@MM-lv7iy
@MM-lv7iy 10 ай бұрын
Video idea: The best lands in Commander… that are terrible in every other format. Honorable mentions to lands that are designed to work in Commander, obviously, but there are a few that aren’t specifically intended that way that could be considered.
@12jojimbo
@12jojimbo 10 ай бұрын
Grandmother Sengir is such a nostalgic card for me. I’m the youngest with two much older brothers who, with my father, were pretty involved in early magic. I grew up playing Mtg by the lantern light while camping. I had no cards of my own, just played whatever my brothers and father had around. One of my favourite decks was the mono black deck. Some vampires, some royal assassins with the dreaded Icy Manipulator combo, and of course, Grandma Sengir herself! It wasn’t until many years later, long after my brothers stopped playing that I actually got back into playing myself, inheriting all their old cards. Haven’t played much in recent years but seeing Grandma Sengir in your list snapped me back to those times lol. Thanks for the video!
@tobyh.6713
@tobyh.6713 6 ай бұрын
Seeing Niambi, Faithful Healer on this list is hilarious, seeing as my Niambi deck is one of those 100 or so decks on EDHREC. And like, it's not THAT bad. It works pretty well for a Teferi Tribal deck comnander, which is kinda one of the main purposes of choosing Niambi for me at least.
@jessewinter5826
@jessewinter5826 10 ай бұрын
Hajar, Loyal Bodyguard should be on this list. Low mana cost aside, there are better ways to give creatures indestructible without having to worry about commander tax.
@thepiratedoggo1996
@thepiratedoggo1996 10 ай бұрын
Ive always enjoyed yet feel mixed on commander, it's great fun building a deck round one card or using it to bolster a strategy or playstyle. you also get to see a lot of potential combo's youd never see in other formats due to the many unique interactions that building a deck from only 1 copy of a card has, however sometimes it can be a lot more chaotic in general espically being a format aimed at casual bigger multiplayer games.
@delathenleso5793
@delathenleso5793 10 ай бұрын
That's a feature, not a bug. Commander is meant, from the ground up, to let you tell a story and to hear your friends' story.
@solbradguy7628
@solbradguy7628 10 ай бұрын
Phage was one of the most fun commanders I ever built around. Not great if your objective is to win a lot of games but very fun. And you can definitely win some games occasionally (or at least get some cheesy kills a little more often).
@dyne313
@dyne313 10 ай бұрын
I love the puzzle of getting Phage into play without losing.
@vincentsissom4180
@vincentsissom4180 10 ай бұрын
I would love to see you do a video where you cover the best Commanders in Pauper Commander, where any Common and Uncommon Creature can be your Commander.
@NataliaNeeSama
@NataliaNeeSama 9 ай бұрын
Phage is cluncky but I love her! Even if she is not that powerful, she is the scariest thing in a table when you somehow manage to pull her out and give her shroud or indestructable. It is so funny to see people nuking a whole table just because Phage is there. While she is not ideal, she is very fun to try to make her work.
@njmfff
@njmfff 6 ай бұрын
Back in the day I had mono-black deck, which had Phage, Visara, 4 black knights, unholy strength, 4 terrors, pestilence, Undead Gladiator, Corruption, Mutilation and Nightmare. It was super fun deck. Then Mirrodin came in and completely mess up the game (alto some might say it saved MTG by speeding it up), and bunch of people that use to play quit, including me, because power creep was insane, most previous sets couldn't keep up with Mirrodin.
@tvdinner1986
@tvdinner1986 10 ай бұрын
Odric, Blood-Cursed feels like he stepped right out of Dark Souls 2 / Bloodbourne / Elden Ring, and I'm really diggin' it 🤩
@theangrycolossal
@theangrycolossal 10 ай бұрын
I had an idea for a joke deck where the idea was to get as much mana as possible as quickly as possible and 'win' by playing Phage on turn 1 (you'd need a very specific opening hand to make this work and 'winning' would be very inconsistent)
@torismegistos7111
@torismegistos7111 10 ай бұрын
I tried it with dark ritual, a 0 cost creature, myr moonvessel and culling the weak, play swamp, cast ritual, 3 mana, one for myr vessel, one for another ritual, 4 black mana, cast culling the weak, 3 mana, myr dies, 4 mana, culling resolves, , 8 mana, cast phage and you get 1 floating mana for those pesky tax counters! People.laugh when i can pull it off
@Oxygen1004
@Oxygen1004 10 ай бұрын
An "OTK" if you will
@lilllithjaxxle
@lilllithjaxxle 10 ай бұрын
A bad commander that I feel should have made this list is Dragonlord Kolaghan, the secondary ability to deal damage to an opponent to casted a card with the same name as something in their graveyard is 99% of the time not going to trigger since the commander format is singleton having two cards with the same name is almost impossible except for the small number of decks that can run multiple copies like Relentless Rats, Dragon’s Approach, Shadowborn Apostle, and Persistent Perstioners.
@dylanvolckaert404
@dylanvolckaert404 9 ай бұрын
You actually can put plains, mountains and islands in a bortuk deck. The colored icon on basic land icons is in the reminder text, which is jot part of the card text. Thia is for the same reason you can use cards with extort in konowhite or black decks.
@Bubben246
@Bubben246 8 ай бұрын
Incorrect. The 5 basic land types each contribute to color identity.
@fyreaxis4938
@fyreaxis4938 10 ай бұрын
Isamaru, Hound of Konda could have been on this list. A 2/2 as a one drop is a great rate, but having this card take up your command zone is bad. Anything after the first cast is just a feelsbad.
@danielgreenwood793
@danielgreenwood793 10 ай бұрын
Isamaru could be voltroned, his low cost makes it easy to resummon and re equip when it gets blow up.
@GonzoEDH
@GonzoEDH 10 ай бұрын
I was expecting the two myojin cycles. So bad overcosted and junky to play from the command zone
@TNTColonel
@TNTColonel 10 ай бұрын
I still remember how much it hurt when Odric's new card got revealed during Crimson Vow spoilers =C
@Xineombine
@Xineombine 10 ай бұрын
Master tactician was so good, how the mighty have fallen...
@DarthMetool
@DarthMetool 10 ай бұрын
Looking forward to seeing what these are. May make a Commander deck with one of these. EDIT: This reminds me. I need to rebuild my Grandmother Sengir deck.
@andrewpeli9019
@andrewpeli9019 8 ай бұрын
Making a bad legend your commander can be a lot of fun. There was a tier list on tapped out that has since be abandoned. I picked a commander from the lowest tier on that list LuBu master at arms and made a reasonably powerful voltron deck with him. Going into card shops with a obscure old commander and doing well with it is fun. Plus LuBu has a theme song from being a historical figure and being represented in Dynasty Warriors.
@cayden5257
@cayden5257 10 ай бұрын
I run a Niambi deck and it rules. Not only is she a blocker once you cast Teferi later on, his +2 is very strong with mana rocks. He can, while definitely being overcosted, still draw you cards when you’re in a rut, and his -9 is a wincon. By using cards like the Chain Veil you can untap it with his ability to have multiple, occasionally infinite, activations on all your planeswalkers.
@christopherb501
@christopherb501 10 ай бұрын
Do best/worst Oathbreakers. And best/worst Commander pairings.
@AgentArcadia
@AgentArcadia 10 ай бұрын
Ehhh I don't think you fully understood Odric. Having an abundance of tokens (let alone artifacts) on the field for any reason is just straight up useful
@noahandrulis9077
@noahandrulis9077 Ай бұрын
16:17 preach! My favorite commander deck is still my Odric, Master Tactician deck.
@kunochijenkins5530
@kunochijenkins5530 10 ай бұрын
Kentaro, the Smiling Cat deserves at least an honorable mention.
@herzerj.5045
@herzerj.5045 10 ай бұрын
Kentaro is a combo commander. Not a really good one, but probably better as every other bushido samurai deck.
@U1TR4F0RCE
@U1TR4F0RCE 10 ай бұрын
Didn’t spice8rack figure out a semi serviceable deck with kentaro?
@kunochijenkins5530
@kunochijenkins5530 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, exactly. Thats where i know Kentaro from =D@@U1TR4F0RCE
@WIBYTIEDH
@WIBYTIEDH 3 ай бұрын
I honestly don't think Sengir deserved the #1 spot on this. Whether it's in order or not, the fact that she can work with Horobi, Death's Wail and the new Massacre Girl can enable her to draw you cards when she kills things isn't anything to sneeze at. There's also lots of cards that can let you untap her and black ramp is bananas. I've actually squeaked out wins with her because of how ignored she is. "There aren't that many ways to untap her in mono black" Thousand-Year Elixir, Puppet Strings, Staff of Domination, Magewright's Stone, Patriar's Seal, Thornbite Staff, and Umbral Mantle would all like to have a word 😉
@spac3dout320
@spac3dout320 10 ай бұрын
I wonder how things would Change if from the hand effects could be activated from command zone, would tetzimoc then be ok?
@Havlark
@Havlark 10 ай бұрын
Could you cast pariah or equip pariahs shield on cho to make yourself never take damage? White does have ways to find it too. But thats about all I can think of to take advantage of the ability.
@davidhower7095
@davidhower7095 10 ай бұрын
One of these days I’ll make a Niambi deck. The Teferi could be a much worse card. Anyway, surprised Nael, Avizoa Aeronaut didn’t share Bortuk’s slot, along with Radha, Coalition Warlord and Zar Ojanen, Scion of Efrava.
@darkmatter32x
@darkmatter32x 10 ай бұрын
After 3 months in deployment and I am greeted with a good top 10. So delicious. Edit: Building my mono black EDH using Ihsan's Shade just for nostalgia reasons, throwing in all the memorable cards when I first started MTG, problem is that one of the yawgmoth card is banned and the other is insanely expensive.
@erlanddrow7950
@erlanddrow7950 10 ай бұрын
While I disagree with Ordic being number 2, there is also the fact some of the keywords won't be in your deck. How many Hexproof, Reach and Deathtouch creatures are you running in a Red/White deck?
@SwedeRacerDC
@SwedeRacerDC 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, Dominaria is a Legends matters set, so any of the domain cards are meant to go into something like a WUBRG Legends matters deck. The same is true with a lot of cards on this list that they are meant to go in other decks and not be commanders. Just because something can be your commander doesn't mean it's meant to be.
@UsaSatsui
@UsaSatsui 10 ай бұрын
This list went from "cards that are bad in Commander because of the nature of the format" to "just bad cards" surprisingly quick. I mean, Nana Sengir is bad, yes, but you can play her and she does stuff. Haakon, on the other hand...
@SergioGarsiaSolano
@SergioGarsiaSolano 10 ай бұрын
They didn't even mentioned all the commanders that lose effects because commander doesn't let you play copies of cards like the grandeur commanders, the old mishra or dragon lord kolaghan
@davidfox9309
@davidfox9309 10 ай бұрын
When I was 13, I won my first FMN (Friday Night Magic) at my locals. This was back during OG Innistrad, and I wanted the swords from New Phyrexia. Pulled a card called, Jor Kadeen, Privailer. He has firststrike and metalcraft - creatures you control get +3/+0. When I saw Odric, Blood cursed the frist thing I thought was, "He'd be cool in a Jor Kadeen deck"
@stigmaoftherose
@stigmaoftherose 10 ай бұрын
The real downside of bortuk is only black and green have "all lands are land type in addition" you got urborg and yavimayah with are already black and green really make it worse, if there was a full 5 color cycle of these lands it could work as green fetches lands well enough.
@EmeraldCrowley
@EmeraldCrowley 10 ай бұрын
6:46 I'm sorry, rivals of WHAT?
@monikatelescope9311
@monikatelescope9311 10 ай бұрын
Making one of these as a commander deck.
@jettblade
@jettblade 10 ай бұрын
I don't mind having something that is bad or not as effective as a commander. It could fit well in the 99 or have a really interesting deck building challenge some people like, I'm one of those that like a challenge. Bortuk you could get 3 basic land types in a deck because of Wastes. Also if anything you can return a creature to your hand to cast again later. It isn't horrible but not nearly as effective as it could be with more colors, its at least playable. Tetzimoc, Phage, The Unspeakable, and by extension the Miyojans(not mentioned but should have been) weren't designed with commander in mind at all so I don't blame them for not working. I do respect that there were ways of making them kind-of work but there needs to be way more of those options. Cho-Manno is an amazing card to build around. There are quite a few things the can redirect damage from you to a creature and most of that is in white. I remember early when commander was starting up that a few people had Cho-Manno decks that were just unbeatable. It does take work but it certainly isn't worst. Odric the Blood Cursed was an absolute travesty and the card is actually alright, they did him so wrong in the story. White and red does have a lot of options for each of those abilities but the fact he doesn't have one himself hurts him a little. I don't think he is unplayable its just the stigma around what they did to him that sours the card.
@TooMuchBSToo
@TooMuchBSToo 10 ай бұрын
Wastes sadly don't have a land type. The max for domain is 5: plains, islands, swamps, mountains, and forests.
@7Alberto7
@7Alberto7 10 ай бұрын
Grandmother demand more tespect😂😂😂😂😂 Amazing!!!!
@jameshonaker585
@jameshonaker585 3 ай бұрын
Omitting the legendary creature you literally are unable to cast from the command zone in Haakon, Stromgald Scourge is...an interesting decision. It's a strong card but a massive albatross in the Command zone.
@Darkorinth1
@Darkorinth1 10 ай бұрын
With Cho-Manno you could run Pariah and Pariah Shield, and there may be similar effects I don't know about. It doesn't make the card good, but not bad enough for this list.
@cooldes4593
@cooldes4593 10 ай бұрын
Forgetting Haakon is insane
@kevintemple1447
@kevintemple1447 10 ай бұрын
I'd like a list of the weakest and strongest precon commander decks
@markcahalan5698
@markcahalan5698 10 ай бұрын
I actually built a deck with Haakon as the commander, surprised he isn't on the list
@watsondontaable
@watsondontaable 9 ай бұрын
I play Niambi as the commander for my Teferi tribal deck and the precon Teferi gives a lot of extra turns late in the game.
@zackkelley2940
@zackkelley2940 10 ай бұрын
You could run Granny Sengir in a Vhati Il-Dal deck I suppose. Vhati can get a creatures toughness to 1 so Granny here can actually kill it and green has LOTS of untappers. Still not GOOD by any means but... somewhat useable. I would argue that Veldrane is actually worse. You either have a 7 mana vanilla 5/5 OR a 10 mana unblocable 2/5. Without activating his ability he can be chumped by anything. WITH activating his ability you're only chipping someone for 2.
@adam122352
@adam122352 10 ай бұрын
When he said Izellia I was positive I stroked out
@Largeguuy
@Largeguuy 10 ай бұрын
It’s ixilan omg 😂
@FrankTheChrank
@FrankTheChrank 10 ай бұрын
Haakon, Stromgald Scourge would come to mind. As a commander he is very hard to cast and his ability to play knights from the graveyard is nice, but not worth the effort.
@Gallagher_meme
@Gallagher_meme 3 күн бұрын
I'm really surprised that Dragonlord Koloaghan isn't on this list since it's ability does nothing against all but like 4 decks
@calemr
@calemr 10 ай бұрын
Pre watch predictions: Kentaro, Smiling Cat (Mono colored mana fixer), Phage the Untouchable (Die on ETB from Command zone.), and Haakon, Stromgald Scourge (May only be cast from graveyard). And at least one of the terrible old vanilla legends.
@SeleenShadowpaw
@SeleenShadowpaw 3 ай бұрын
I have a tetzimoc aristocrats-y deck with a lot of the cheap return to hand reviva and sac outlets. The deck works very well on it's own, and tetzimoc is just a very reliable selective boardwipe that's only mildly clunky to get going the first time. It's far from competetively viable mind you, but it is pretty high power and more than pulls it's weight. I give you that he isn't a combo piece just living in the command zone, but i don't think he deserves a spot on worst commanders of all time :D
@RDA000
@RDA000 9 ай бұрын
"Odric isn't very strong" *Me one shotting my friends for the 30th time with an army of flying double strikers*
@gremlinfriend6956
@gremlinfriend6956 10 ай бұрын
I wanted to build a “fuck your fliers” deck with Arashi, The Sky Asunder. Run creatures with reach, every single plummet effect, etc. a silly meme deck
@jimmysmith2249
@jimmysmith2249 10 ай бұрын
They did Odric dirty. Really dirty. Like, dirty sanchez dirty.
@thomasallen3570
@thomasallen3570 10 ай бұрын
Just to be clear about the #10 spot, those were intended to BE your commander. EDH was created by the community (a small group, but it grew fast) to favor older cards with neat art so that they could actually SEE play. As the "Commander" format, those are bad cards, but originally before WOTC got the format legitimized, those kinds of cards were meant to be leading your deck. The whole idea of EDH was to have fun with old/expensive/slow cards that would never see play in higher tier formats.
@Lcngopher
@Lcngopher 10 ай бұрын
Another decent reason for the legends from legends to only be tenth is the og elder dragons from that set are the entire reason the format was created to begin with.
@georgeneuman488
@georgeneuman488 4 ай бұрын
I think we liked these underpowered cards like Barktooth back then because players were mostly a bunch of dorky kids who were like "COOL THESE CARDS ARE GOLD!!!" and that was as far as our thought process went.
@TheSpiritombsableye
@TheSpiritombsableye 10 ай бұрын
15:19 who is Ordic?
@dyne313
@dyne313 10 ай бұрын
AI have a Phage deck, and I love it!
@zackkelley2940
@zackkelley2940 10 ай бұрын
If you want to run an effect like Arashi... run Silklash Spider. Though it's not legendary so you'll have to run it in the 99 anyway. You lose the single target but you have a tougher creature that can REPEATEDLY wipe out flyers.
@MageSkeleton
@MageSkeleton 10 ай бұрын
Cho Manno and Odric i feel could had been up higher like be the 9th and 8th positions. Cho Manno is interesting because he cannot be damaged. This is not that insignificant. Odric blood cursed (and i disagree with him becoming a vampire WotC) while his ETB may seem underwhelming, your getting alot of "free" blood tokens depending on what different keywords you have on the field. When you find out how many reanimation spells there are and "flicker" spells in just white you can do some really interesting things with him creating blood tokens WHICH also upon paying one mana allow you to discard a card and draw a card. The problem when he was released was just that he didn't do much with the blood tokens.
@Turn140
@Turn140 3 ай бұрын
I've been getting into commander and I've been looking through all my old magic cards from the 90s. And the 2000s and I. Specifically remember picking up Grandma. I was like wow. She sounds like a funny name for commander and then I read her abilities and I was like wow. That just it's awful
@stonewallkotdm
@stonewallkotdm 9 ай бұрын
I would love to see a video (if you haven't already) of the top 10 worst cards in the Homelands set. Homelands had just come out when I started playing Magic, so I played all those shitty cards because I didn't know any better. 😂
@afriendofafriend5766
@afriendofafriend5766 10 ай бұрын
I know what my next 15 commanders are going to be
@Fangs-jo4bq
@Fangs-jo4bq 10 ай бұрын
Top ten Voltron commander.
@KnicKnac
@KnicKnac 10 ай бұрын
“You can tap grandma” no thanks I’d rather not
@SwedeRacerDC
@SwedeRacerDC 10 ай бұрын
All of the Kamigawa Myojin that need to be cast from your hand to work should also be on this list. They are some of the worst commanders. I actually think this Odric, though he may be pretty bad, can be underrated and has uses. You can filter a ton with him to get through your deck if you build it right and even get to the Lumarch Marshal to make all your creatures have all the abilities out there. But the Myojin are even worse than a lot of the cards that want to be in your hand from this list because they cost so much
@powcowdoesgames
@powcowdoesgames 10 ай бұрын
Skeleton ship is my favorite “bad” commander. Better than grandma but not by much 😂😂
@Danothyus1
@Danothyus1 10 ай бұрын
no Haakon stromgald scourge? The most convoluted commander in history to play. You need to send him from the command zone to your hand, so you can send him to the graveyard, and them you can finally put him in play. His effect is at best decent, and he still have a drawback of shocking you every time he dies.
@HakureiIllusion
@HakureiIllusion 10 ай бұрын
Heavy disagree on Phage. She's not GREAT, but there's enough ways to get around her effect (Platinum Angel, Lich's Mastery, Sundial of the Infinite, Torpor Orb, Stunning Reversal, The Golden Throne, the aforementioned Command Beacon/Campfire, Netherborn Altar, all the black tutors to get these things, etc.) that a deck built around her can and will find ways to get her to stick without losing. Once on board, she is an immediate and dire threat to everyone else at the table, since there are enough equipment and enchantments out there to protect her and make her difficult to block. There are problems with her, but unlike everything else on this list, she can work incredibly well.
@Samagachi
@Samagachi 10 ай бұрын
Give her eldrazi conscription 🙂
@InquisitorSinCross
@InquisitorSinCross 10 ай бұрын
Phage is amazing in the 99. Phage + Fractured Identity = gg
@dyne313
@dyne313 10 ай бұрын
Phage is fun as your commander. I know from experience.
@maxmustermann9503
@maxmustermann9503 10 ай бұрын
I was surprised you didn't give a spot to the legends with Grandeur (an activated ability that lets you discard another card with the same name for some benefit) as those are practically unusable without both a clone effect and the ability to get your commander into your hand.
@_TicTacJoe
@_TicTacJoe 10 ай бұрын
I have a friend who made this "work" - it was hard to watch!
@Draqson
@Draqson 5 ай бұрын
Hmm I expected "Mishra, Artificer Prodigy" to make the list, his whole effect is about searching copies of artifacts you play, which is pointless in a Highlander-Deck.
@magicalgirlanime
@magicalgirlanime 10 ай бұрын
At least the Elder Dragon cycle is why we have Elder Dragon Highlander to begin with. And Nicol Bolas was sort of alright.
@jonathananonymouse7685
@jonathananonymouse7685 10 ай бұрын
Can you not run Wastes in Bortuk? That can at least get you up to 3, unless I'm mistaken.
@wurdulac923
@wurdulac923 10 ай бұрын
EDIT: Nevermind, I guess Wastes is a basic land, but does not count as a type of basic land. Ignore everything else in this post as it is incorrect; I will leave it up as a monument to my failure. It's not great, but you can also run Wastes in your Bortuk deck for a colorless basic land, letting you return a three drop alongside your (at first) six drop 4/4 Commander. So I guess that's an option?
@TheBBbandit
@TheBBbandit 10 ай бұрын
Calling a blinkable commander that can reliably give you 5-6 artifacts when artifact support is so strong is WILD lmao
@venkelos6996
@venkelos6996 10 ай бұрын
I was expecting to see the original Mishra, or maybe a stand in with a similarly limited effect, as EDH, being a singleton format, makes their effects moot, but oh well. I eas definitely expecting to see Phage, and I'm still sad she's there, though it's obvious why.
@Atmapalazzo
@Atmapalazzo 10 ай бұрын
I completely forgot what the black primal dinosaur did
@fwop7436
@fwop7436 6 ай бұрын
Cho Manno is great with Pariah and the shield 👌👌👌
@BadDrummerCarl
@BadDrummerCarl 10 ай бұрын
Inname as One is probably one of the hardest build arounds
@creepykoala7255
@creepykoala7255 7 ай бұрын
At least if you use Phage as your commander you'll always have a stylish way of conceding available.
@zackbonno3675
@zackbonno3675 10 ай бұрын
I'm shocked you didn't mention Baru, Fist of Krosia, Korlash Heir to Blackblade, OG mishra or Kotose, the silent spider, all cards that are literally useless in commander, the one minor exception being Kotose can hose rat colony style decks
@robertomacetti7069
@robertomacetti7069 10 ай бұрын
our beloved phage the unplayable
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