Top 10 Worst Tribal Lords in Magic

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@Lovuschka
@Lovuschka 11 ай бұрын
Come on, if you have four Kobold Drill Sergeant and a Kobold Overlord in play, you can just destroy the opponent with your 0/5 Kobolds of Kher Keep with trample and first strike.
@SyntheticNuclear
@SyntheticNuclear 11 ай бұрын
Kolbold Deck: I swing in with all my 7 kobolds Opponent: Already I take another 0 damage, I'm still at 20. Kolbold Deck: End Turn Opponent: I swing in with 2 steel leafs for letal.
@Asageun
@Asageun 11 ай бұрын
​@@SyntheticNuclearI activate my instant "table flip" I now flip the table. Ggs
@SyntheticNuclear
@SyntheticNuclear 11 ай бұрын
@@Asageun Jokes on you, its on MTGO and you just flipped your computer monitor into the wall
@Asageun
@Asageun 11 ай бұрын
@@SyntheticNuclear heck, dang, and quite possibly, crap
@WUZLE
@WUZLE 3 ай бұрын
I tried to build a kobold deck out of all the Italian Legends cards I bought. Even with four Gauntlets of Might it went about as well as you'd expect.
@calemr
@calemr 11 ай бұрын
I think my favourite videos are ones about something oddly specific. Especially the negatives, because it means I can see cards that I Never see in the wild, because no-one uses them.
@Kei-ye8if
@Kei-ye8if 11 ай бұрын
"... as long as WoTC remain sane" Very very bold assumption to make
@miaouew
@miaouew 2 ай бұрын
yeah that ship has sailed big time
@coreyroberson4550
@coreyroberson4550 11 ай бұрын
Talks about Sachi, Daughter of Seshiro. Compares Sachi's buff directly to Chief of the Scale, says "interestingly, this card [Chief] actually has a counterpart card in Chief of the Edge, who gives +1 power"... and completely ignores that Sachi also has a counterpart card that gives +1 power called Sosuke, Son of Seshiro.
@7ItalianStallion
@7ItalianStallion 11 ай бұрын
Great video! I still remember pulling that bird soldier Lord 20 years ago and making a soldier deck and having to take the Lord out because it just wasn't helping anything lol
@nobunt3729
@nobunt3729 11 ай бұрын
The idea with the vigilance cleric is that a lot of the old cleric cards could tap to prevent some amount of damage, so you could attack and keep them up to tap to prevent them from dying or prevent damage from your oppenent next turn. Not saying it's good, but it did do some stuff.
@fernandobanda5734
@fernandobanda5734 11 ай бұрын
The problem is such cards weren't good in combat anyway. You would put them at risk even on the tiniest of boards.
@neros_soren
@neros_soren 11 ай бұрын
@@fernandobanda5734 Not their point. The point is, it was claimed that Vigilance is only good if you want to attack and block with the same creature. Which is false. A creature with Vigilance and a tap ability is extremely strong, period. His card analysis is never about "how good was this effect back when it was printed?", also.
@fernandobanda5734
@fernandobanda5734 11 ай бұрын
@@neros_soren That's fair. I'm just saying that it wasn't a use case even back then because the Clerics with tap abilities that existed didn't even want to attack. It was a design with no big idea behind.
@neros_soren
@neros_soren 11 ай бұрын
@@fernandobanda5734 No one accused you of attacking anybody. Just told you that the point OP made, wasn't about it's viability, neither back than nor now, but about the usefulness of Vigilance.
@fernandobanda5734
@fernandobanda5734 11 ай бұрын
@@neros_soren I'm saying the *Clerics* didn't want to attack. As in, even if vigilance works with their tap abilities, they had 0 or 1 power and would immediately die against anything. They'd be better out of combat preventing damage.
@phyrexian_dude4645
@phyrexian_dude4645 11 ай бұрын
You forgot another tiny detail on Anaba Spirit Crafter, Aven Brigadier and Zuberi, Golden Feather... their buff symetrical. So in the hypotetical case your opponent is using those tribes, they also get the buff. Sure, this was an issue in other older Lord cards and... older Sliver in general (but on the later it made mirror matches way more interesting) but the upside on them was worth more than the downside.
@TheXcizer
@TheXcizer 11 ай бұрын
Was wondering if anyone else noticed that
@nuklearwinter2892
@nuklearwinter2892 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I’m totally worried about a griffin mirror match.
@quint3ssent1a
@quint3ssent1a 2 ай бұрын
On the other hand, imagine probability of TWO people playing the same dead tribe with barely 50 cards to speak of.
@baconsir1159
@baconsir1159 11 ай бұрын
Sachi should NOT be on this list imo, it’s a pretty damn good Shaman lord. I’d be willing to bet if the snake half wasn’t there it wouldn’t be on the list, despite that being essentially gravy
@astuteanansi4935
@astuteanansi4935 11 ай бұрын
I feel like she was undervalued. A big deal was made out of the problem of getting her to untap, but even if the opponent removes her immediately when she hits the field, you may still tap your other shamans in response and potentially play a threat. It won't always work out (since you've already spent 4 to play Sachi), but there's a good chance she can at least replace herself.
@Rocketknightgeek
@Rocketknightgeek 11 ай бұрын
She was also part of an infinite mana combo in block (and draftable in theory) with Orochi Leafcaller and Freed from the Real.
@Bongus_Bubogus
@Bongus_Bubogus 11 ай бұрын
Vigilance is like my #4 best keyword has this man ever heard of a crackback. “Only good in very specific board states” -> like whenever you have creature advantage, i.e. playing a creature/aggro deck.
@fernandobanda5734
@fernandobanda5734 11 ай бұрын
Aggro decks don't normally care about blocking. Vigilance in general is a very weak keyword.
@Bongus_Bubogus
@Bongus_Bubogus 11 ай бұрын
@@fernandobanda5734 This mf don’t know Questing Beast and it shows
@fernandobanda5734
@fernandobanda5734 11 ай бұрын
@@Bongus_Bubogus Yeah, because THAT'S the strong part and not haste or evasion.
@Bongus_Bubogus
@Bongus_Bubogus 11 ай бұрын
@@fernandobanda5734 It’s unbeatable because you can’t attack into it and it can attack freely. You really haven’t played with or against it
@fernandobanda5734
@fernandobanda5734 11 ай бұрын
@@Bongus_Bubogus Vigilance is not nothing, and it's obviously better in a big body, but it's not always relevant. Not every matchup is an aggro race. On the other hand, haste and evasion is almost always relevant to dealing more damage. The planeswalker damage, prevention hate, deathtouch and vigilance are bonuses, not the main reason it's strong.
@themantyf1116
@themantyf1116 11 ай бұрын
I think Sachi would deserve the number ten of the list. The second ability is only the one that matters, giving it to itself too is a nice bonus, but it's not the core of it. Summoning sickness means that Saichi will have to wait, but other shamans on the board won't, and due to how the stack and mana abilities work if it doesn't get countered you can use it before the opponent has a chance to remove it, or generate mana in response to removal, meaning that removal won't take it all away. With two shamans on board, Saichi is virtually free, repaying itself. The main issue is that there isn't a strong Shaman kindred right now, but it still works better than Armament Master, and unlike other cards on the list, it has the potential to find a niche with future kindred release.
@איתןשי
@איתןשי 2 ай бұрын
It should have been replaced with Steamflogger Boss
@quint3ssent1a
@quint3ssent1a 2 ай бұрын
Just slap hexproof aura/equipment on it and you're golden.
@casuallydone468
@casuallydone468 11 ай бұрын
I feel like Bladestitched Skaab should have at minimum been an honorable mention on this list a 2 mana +1/+0, in a tribe with a TON of lords with more effective abilities, combined with requiring two specific colors of mana is just not good especially in such an already boosted tribe
@silmourne
@silmourne 11 ай бұрын
These are really consistently some of the best MTG content on the internet. Thank you for all your work!
@neros_soren
@neros_soren 11 ай бұрын
You're not watching much MTG content then, eh? There are so many errors in those videos. Not to dump on him or anyone who enjoys them (I mean...I do for what it's worth) but some of the best? meh
@chaospudding
@chaospudding 11 ай бұрын
Chief of the Scale was better than Chief of the Edge in KTK Limited at least.
@astuteanansi4935
@astuteanansi4935 11 ай бұрын
It should be noted that a lord that buffs a weak tribe is not necessarily equivalent to a weak lord, since there's always a chance the tribe will suddenly become playable as a result of being featured prominently in a set (like Orcs becoming viable after Tarkir after having spent ages being a complete joke). But to be honest, the only lord here that ever stands a realistic shot at being decent is Pheres-Band Warchief. If Centaurs were actually playable, I don't think it would belong on this list. All the others are stupidly overcosted, too weak or too situational.
@nobodyimportant72
@nobodyimportant72 11 ай бұрын
After seeing an attempt at a Centaur tribal deck I gave it a shot. Not sure if the 3/3 for 2 is bad but a green-white centaur deck built around +1/+1 counters may be fun with the Warchief at the top to help.
@God-ch8lq
@God-ch8lq Ай бұрын
a 4 mana lord is not worth it imo unless ur playing a really slow format 4 mana should be ur top-end unless ur tribe has a fuckton of mana dorks (like elves) or a way to cheat ur bigger threats into play (like legacy goblins)
@astuteanansi4935
@astuteanansi4935 Ай бұрын
@@God-ch8lq I agree it wouldn't be a good card, but it wouldn't be worth calling one of the "worst ever".
@thomasallen3570
@thomasallen3570 9 ай бұрын
Love the cleric. I can attest that back in that block my cleric deck really only attacked if I was losing or if the opponent was wide open. Giving them Vigilance was not even a factor, haha.
@stigmaoftherose
@stigmaoftherose 11 ай бұрын
Actually, having a lord give vigilance can be very impactful; best example is slivers. The best slivers list has gemhide to make them all tap for mana, a flash sliver, and vigilance let's you attack without tapping, then flash out a combat buff, infect, or any other powerful combat ability after the opponent blocks unfavorably using the slivers as mana dorks. The problem with giving clerics vigilance is that most of their powerful abilities are static, so they don't need to tap. There are a few clerics that tap other clerics for a payoff , so them having vigilance then isn't bad but even then it's usually easier to use an anthem that gives the whole board vigilance and often a plus to their stats for 4 mana.
@Psyman2
@Psyman2 11 ай бұрын
No hate intended, I love your videos, but there was some amount of weird reasons in this one. 6:23 "The biggest weakness is how weak that leaves you to removal." Lords don't have protection. Ever. Some lords have evasion, like flying, while some others buff themselves or grow - either on their own (Bloodlord of Vaasgoth) or with their allies (Goblin Rabblemaster), but they do not have protection. If a way to grade an object applies to all objects, throw it out the window. 6:40 "If you went out of your way to make as many spawn tokens as possible you'd probably only get around 5 in play." Brood Birthing vomits three onto the field for 2mana. I goldfished it out of curiosity and attacked with 16 power on turn4. The bigger problem is that you don't want to have them lying around. It is a 1-card nonbo. You take a creature type that wants to ramp you, basically a sidegrade to treasure tokens, and you turn them into attackers. 4:30 "Power is better than toughness because one of these cards was used in standard". Power was better than toughness in this instance. Not in every circumstance. If you implement strategies like High Alert or similar cards that allow you to smack someone with your creature's ass, you will want more toughness. Saying one card is better than the other because power is better than toughness applies a rule of thumb to a single card. Additional context is needed (like analyzing whether or not the card's colors can utilize toughness). 8:55 "At the time this card was printed" This one was weird. In several of your "top10 worst" videos you mention how cards were strong when they were released, but rulechanges made them worse today. Or several other reasons. But that has no relation to their performance today. The wording is here.
@HazhMcMoor
@HazhMcMoor 10 ай бұрын
Yeah I'm immediately curious on what "top 10 strongest tribal lords" looks like
@juggulator123
@juggulator123 7 ай бұрын
I think when he mentions brood being weak to removal is that the strategy or relying on your whole tribes/boards power coming from one creature is opening up a situation when you have no power at all. If you were playing zombies and your lord was sniped chances are your other zombies even if they were tokens or weak, would still have some attacking utility.
@NishantShankar-j8h
@NishantShankar-j8h 11 ай бұрын
I don’t know how well this works in your video format, but “Top 10 most complex decks” (across formats, maybe excluding commander) might be an interesting idea
@archwing3441
@archwing3441 11 ай бұрын
You keep on mentioning how there aren't too many of a specific type, like bird soldiers only having 55, but 55 is more than enough bird soldiers when you consider you'll only use like 10 of them. Really, you mean to say there isn't 10 bird soldiers good enough to make a deck out of. Like, Kobold sucks not because there are 13 of them, but because they have 13 bad cards. 13 cards is more than enough to make a tribal deck.
@ohuckabee
@ohuckabee 11 ай бұрын
Does Aven Brigadier's artwork remind anyone else of Sam the Eagle from The Muppet Show?
@robertfarrington2716
@robertfarrington2716 11 ай бұрын
Zuberi works great with this commander Zeriam, Golden Wind, Along with a few other of those lords that work pretty great in commander. If you are going to say worst lords you should at least state what format they are worst in because commander is a whole different ball of wax
@atmaximum
@atmaximum 11 ай бұрын
I have more than one Changeling EDH decks, so i'm gonna love this
@CRAETION_
@CRAETION_ 11 ай бұрын
Tribal decks have always been my favorite in MTG
@cc_rex5017
@cc_rex5017 11 ай бұрын
Amen here. Every time a new set has a Tribal theme, I build at least 2 new Commanders. With Ixalan I upgraded Merfolks, Vampires and Pirates and during our last visit to Innistrad, I build 5 Decks since it's my favorite plane with such cool tribes (Especially werewolves)
@ComfyBasilisk
@ComfyBasilisk 11 ай бұрын
it's worth noting that vigilance doesn't Need to be purely defensive. it can also be used to let your creatures attack without turning off activated abilities they need to tap for. ... altho, that's hardly enough to make a 4-mana 2/4 worth using lol
@drifter-donosadventureobsc9565
@drifter-donosadventureobsc9565 11 ай бұрын
So much of this video is based solely around standard. Vigilance is pretty OP in commander.
@josephwodarczyk977
@josephwodarczyk977 11 ай бұрын
Commander isn't a competitive format, so he actively ignores it for these videos.
@Flum666
@Flum666 11 ай бұрын
vigilance on clerics is actually good because they can attack and tap for their ability
@emmetstanevich2121
@emmetstanevich2121 11 ай бұрын
Something I just noticed, but I'm not sure how relevant it is: some of the cards here buff *all* creatures of the stated types, rather than specifying creatures you control. Does that mean they also buff the opponent's creatures of their respective types, like how the murlocs in hearthstone used to work, or is the effect only working for your own creatures meant to be implied?
@Kanelbroed
@Kanelbroed 11 ай бұрын
Cards that give "all X +1/+1" also includes your opponents creatures, unless it says "You control" It's why old school slivers are wonky as hell in a mirror match, as they give ALL slivers their abilities, not just your own.
@williamdrum9899
@williamdrum9899 11 ай бұрын
If it doesn't say "you control" it does indeed affect all players' creatures
@bradensorensen966
@bradensorensen966 5 ай бұрын
“Captain’s claws” costs 2 and equips for 1. It gives a creature +1/+0 and “Whenever equipped creature attacks, create a 1/1 white Kor Ally creature token that’s tapped and attacking.”
@byronsmothers8064
@byronsmothers8064 11 ай бұрын
Armament master + Arden//Toggo deck? Lands produce equipment tokens, so the deck can run fewer dedicated equipment and more kor to buff. Far from perfect but I'm brainstorming.
@cc_rex5017
@cc_rex5017 11 ай бұрын
At least Kobolds got Rohgahh, Kher Keep Overlord as a "decent" commander. Although 12 other Kobolds isn't much to work with (changelings excluded). At least the low cost of the Kobolds makes it easier to make the 4/4 dragons with Rohgahhs ability But centaurs really need some more support.
@biobroly9324
@biobroly9324 11 ай бұрын
Can you do a video on exert or expend? The bad ability that gives your creature a decent boost but prevents it from untapping next turn. I have some nagas with it
@ashleypenhall7949
@ashleypenhall7949 2 ай бұрын
I runa crystal witness deck with Sachi, Sakura tribe elders moxs and birds. It's super quick to build a powerhouse fireball
@TheKingNaesala
@TheKingNaesala 11 ай бұрын
Pheras-Band Warchief shouldnt be so high on the list. Yeah Centaur-kindred is pretty weak, but it's a really good lord for what the deck wants to do. Vigilance and Trample are great keywords in selesnya. On the list for sure, but maybe at 8 or 9 in my opinion.
@i8mrwaffles
@i8mrwaffles 11 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to build my Zuberi commander deck
@RayneOfSalt
@RayneOfSalt 11 ай бұрын
Minotaurs are a very viable tribe in Commander. Did you forget that it's a format that exists?
@dotv2359
@dotv2359 11 ай бұрын
Paltry number of birds? More like a poultry number! 10:30
@Weckacore
@Weckacore 8 ай бұрын
"there are only 9 snake shaman" goes to scryfall and enters "changeling"
@gentlemanchogath7613
@gentlemanchogath7613 11 ай бұрын
I was gonna ask how Zombie Master missed the list, but then I realized I had forgot he gave regenerate in addition to swampwalk.
@marcoottina654
@marcoottina654 11 ай бұрын
Not exactly a Tribe Lord, which barely save her, but ..... Silver Seraph, a 6/6 for 5WWW giving +2/+2 by having Threshold on (i.e., "7 or more cards in your graveyard"). Conditional stat buff for so much mana is not worthy at all, Coat of Arms is probably better. I bought some copies of her due to the emotional link with Might Sliver The Bird Soldier __was__ useful in my Soldier deck, featuring some +1/+1 counters related birdos ... then, the latter were replaced by more efficient soldiers ( and/or providing card draws) so those lords had no room nor meaning to stay in the deck. Sadly, it was nice to cheat out with Preeminent Captain Lastly, Docent of Perfection can Wizards really _take fly_, but it's clunky (3UU and requires to have 4 wizards to *flip*, even if it helps by creating 1/1 tokes while casting instants/sorceries) *and it's not a wizard itself*
@Garl_Vinland
@Garl_Vinland 11 ай бұрын
I have a discard reanimator deck with Silver Seraph. Cycling Decree of Justice into the buff is quite scary.
@marcoottina654
@marcoottina654 11 ай бұрын
@@Garl_Vinland nive!
@nobodyimportant72
@nobodyimportant72 11 ай бұрын
Docentt of Perfection: I'll admit I wasn't playing at the time to know where the power creep was at that time but it's a strictly better Air Elemental that can transfor into something pretty scary.
@marcoottina654
@marcoottina654 11 ай бұрын
@@nobodyimportant72 yeah it's good in 2 copies on the battlefield and with some cantrips
@EthanBeattie-wh4zx
@EthanBeattie-wh4zx 11 ай бұрын
Just as a heads-up, Wizards is officially moving away from the Tribal terminology. Decks built around one creature type are officially referred to as "typal" decks, and the niche Tribal card type is now renamed as 'Kindred.'
@Warcrafter4
@Warcrafter4 11 ай бұрын
I mostly disagree with Sachi being on the list and Zuberi being as high as #3. Sachi works well with elf shaman decks as they can both ramp and cycle through their decks and in Red/Green versions can use X cost spells such as any "deal X damage" spells for lethal as a back up plan if they didn't zerg down their opponents which Sachi's effect over doubles the mana ramp and thus over double the X damage spells. It also needs a counter spell to stop the ramp as you can activate the mana ramp in responce to it being destroyed, making most decks unable to stop the ramp even if they can get rid of her instantly. Zuberi while they don't have many good main deck creatures to work with, Zuberi does have good selection of 2/2 flying griffon creature token creating enchantments/sorcery spells to work with. Its not good due to white tokens having better and cheaper lords but its sure as heck better then Anaba Spirit Crafter.
@UsaSatsui
@UsaSatsui 11 ай бұрын
Zombie Master belongs on this list. Also, if it counts as a tribal lord, Baron Sengir is disappointing. Also...Silvers???
@vovlasc9817
@vovlasc9817 11 ай бұрын
Zombie Master is an okay zombie lord. Baron Sengir is not a lord. Slivers are usually incredibly efficient and have been a heavily supported tribe.
@UsaSatsui
@UsaSatsui 11 ай бұрын
@@vovlasc9817 Giving two meh abilities (including one that really screws you over) and no stackable bonus to all zombies on the board? Nope. That's far from okay. Slivers are a well established tribe. Silvers, though, aren't
@vovlasc9817
@vovlasc9817 11 ай бұрын
@@UsaSatsui Regen isnt bad and hes costed at 3 cmc. Im not saying hes anything special, but saying that he is one of the top ten worst lords isnt really accurate. Also what do you mean by "silvers"?
@UsaSatsui
@UsaSatsui 11 ай бұрын
@@vovlasc9817 He calls the tribe "Silvers" in the video.
@vovlasc9817
@vovlasc9817 11 ай бұрын
@@UsaSatsui ahh i mistook you saying slivers were bad/unplayable tribal cards, as if you were asking why they werent on the list
@marcusthompson3431
@marcusthompson3431 11 ай бұрын
My friend back in the day had a really meme kobold legacy deck, cast glimpse of nature, fuel it with a million kolbolds, play like led and brain freeze you opponent to death.
@U1TR4F0RCE
@U1TR4F0RCE 11 ай бұрын
I love silver overlord and the first silver
@7Alberto7
@7Alberto7 11 ай бұрын
Amazing!🎉
@Collinreyerson18
@Collinreyerson18 8 ай бұрын
You really missed the chance for the text to say "Poultry" when you said "Paltry" for Aven Brigadier hahaha
@GreatgoatonFire
@GreatgoatonFire 11 ай бұрын
Top 10 Best Lords next?
@TheAceOfFire
@TheAceOfFire 11 ай бұрын
10:29, A paltry number... Or a poultry number!?!?
@TheMagicDragon-mm5dr
@TheMagicDragon-mm5dr 7 ай бұрын
There's a sliver that makes all slivers deal damage to their controller on their upkeep, making it an anti-lord to kill enemy sliver players, and then there's scarecrow dude who makes scarecrows destroy target permanent on entering the battlefield, except scarecrows are such a bad tribe that it's better to just make more of the scarecrow lord to destroy everything.
@afriendofafriend5766
@afriendofafriend5766 11 ай бұрын
You can tell just by looking at Anaba Spirit Crafter that it's from Homelands.
@lichttod
@lichttod 11 ай бұрын
Isn't Aven even worse? Maybe I am too new to magic, but wouldn't all include your opponents' soldiers and birds?
@fernandobanda5734
@fernandobanda5734 11 ай бұрын
It would but that downside doesn't matter that much, at least not over a lord for a 0/1 tribe.
@EmeraldCrowley
@EmeraldCrowley 11 ай бұрын
I'm surprised Steamflogger Boss isn't included, since it is the only legal rigger in the game
@jojotheswede8444
@jojotheswede8444 11 ай бұрын
What If you put a lot of thran power suits on armament master? Could that be a thing?
@melissalutherpendragon
@melissalutherpendragon 11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, Armament Master can't buff itself, only other Kor.
@NeufAtora
@NeufAtora Ай бұрын
Comparing most tribes to Slivers is unfair here, since Slivers are a tribe of lords. They auto-win
@lancourt
@lancourt 11 ай бұрын
Ugh. Just realized that the Brigadier (and the Griffin/anaba if anyone cares) are symetrical... So they can buff your opponent's creatures in the right circumstances
@tobiaspause1775
@tobiaspause1775 10 ай бұрын
As a Master of Crappy Cards, since i have pretty much all of them.... I tell you having Armament Master here is an Insult. How about Thrull Champion? For example? Ainok Bond Kin? Or Sunrise Souverign?
@willropa4226
@willropa4226 9 ай бұрын
Might want to reconsider the definition for tribal lords since wouldn't that mean that nearly every Sliver creature is a tribal lord?
@YoonnsAvec2N
@YoonnsAvec2N 11 ай бұрын
Do you really have to explain what vigilance and trample do ?
@josephwodarczyk977
@josephwodarczyk977 11 ай бұрын
This channel is meant to be accessible. You can show it to someone who knows nothing about magic, and they'll still enjoy it. He's very aware of how annoying this makes the videos for veterans of the game.
@MrSharpClaw
@MrSharpClaw 11 ай бұрын
Kobolds seem like UN cards before UN was a thing.
@connorhamilton5707
@connorhamilton5707 11 ай бұрын
I'd say that honor would actually go to Beebles. They had some appearances in card arts (including before the first Un-set) and a couple cards of their own, before it was decided they were too weird to be made outside of supplemental products. They have since received several cards in Un-sets, including their own planeswalkers card, B.O.B. (Bevy of Beebles).
@Crembaw
@Crembaw 11 ай бұрын
This is easily one of your flimsiest videos yet. The justifications are mediocre and don’t seem to consider the actual conditions of these cards’ releases outside a few more potshots at older sets like the evergreen Homelands beatdown. Some of these barely qualify as lords outside of the broadest, least useful definitions possible. But the worst by far has got to be the complete assassination attempt on Brood Warden, a perfectly usable card (that isn’t a Lord btw) with a perfectly fine ability that both helps make Eldrazi Spawn more versatile and protects them from shock-based removal - something you want to do if you’re using them so that they have any presence or endurance for your later-game pulls. And that was a block with some VERY big lategame pulls.
@fd7003
@fd7003 Ай бұрын
I think Pheras-Band Warchief shouldn´t be on the List at all. With the 68 Centaur cards you forgot that there are many that create 3/3 Tokens
@aidansnead146
@aidansnead146 11 ай бұрын
Steamflogger boss should probably be on this list
@jonbrewer297
@jonbrewer297 3 ай бұрын
Sliver, not silver. Also, obligatory mention of Plated Sliver. Slivers are a good creature type normally, but a lot of sliver decks love to use Wild Pair. This sucks because it makes total P/T for all your slivers (on the battlefield, not in your library) odd. And the fact that it boosts toughness, not power.
@T4N7
@T4N7 11 ай бұрын
I disagree with Aven Brigadier being on this list. In constructed nowadays, yes it is bad. N I don’t think it was great in the standard of its day but was far more comparable to other lords at the time. N 1 thing it did have going for it that u don’t seem o have considered, this was from Onslaught block where birds n soldiers were everywhere including many bird soldiers n about half those cards were in white; this was a king top end threat for draft. I think the goblin who buffs riggers to make extra contraptions should’ve been on this list instead
@nobodyimportant72
@nobodyimportant72 11 ай бұрын
Also sad to say but the 3/5 flier for six wasn't nearly as bad as that stat line is these days. Still not good but not nearly as bad.
@dominiciancabatit6012
@dominiciancabatit6012 11 ай бұрын
There's also Thelomite Hermit and Thrull Champion. Especially Thrull Champion. How many thrulls are there in MTG.
@Bubben246
@Bubben246 11 ай бұрын
Thelonite Hermit at least works well with the 87 other cards that generate Saprolings, several of which are repeatable effects.
@brianbrunen9803
@brianbrunen9803 11 ай бұрын
Silvers eh?
@g_grunz
@g_grunz 8 ай бұрын
Not really sure what's wrong with 50+ different cards having a specific type - non-singleton formats are typically only running about 20 creatures, and even if you are using all legendaries, there are plenty of options. Sure not as much as other types with hundreds, but you're still leaving plenty on the cutting room floor. Even in Commander you're running 25ish, that's still more than enough to have every single one in your deck be the same type. Sure lower numbers means a lower chance of them being actually good, but the number itself isn't the issue, as long as it's over the recommended number to have in a deck. It's not like Beaver or Deer or Wombat where there's like 1 card.
@ericcox970
@ericcox970 7 ай бұрын
Krosan warchief has to be up there for one of the worst.
@sunwentai1
@sunwentai1 11 ай бұрын
Come on, guys, he's only calling them Silvers on purpose so we comment on his video to correct him. It's just a cheap way of getting comments on his videos, so don't encourage that type of behavior and don't comment! ... ...oh wait.
@TheSpiritombsableye
@TheSpiritombsableye 11 ай бұрын
Aven Brigadier is even worse as it boosts your opponent's creatures.
@noahjuskevich1292
@noahjuskevich1292 11 ай бұрын
I wish Centaurs would get proper Tribal support...
@auburncrow4568
@auburncrow4568 Ай бұрын
Kobolds were all fun and games until someone found out that being able to "Cast" five Kobolds and then play Tendrils of Agony or any storm spell was...how you say... Fucked up?
@SANT14GO
@SANT14GO 11 ай бұрын
Hey, I like the idea! But I feel a bit more context is needed. It is kinda odd to call old, power-crept cards or ones designed for limited (like broodwarden or chief) bad in today's 60-card formats.
@zackkelley2940
@zackkelley2940 11 ай бұрын
Broodwarden is even worse than it reads..... For reasons beyond my comprehension, they made TWO types of eldrazi tokens that can be sacrificed for mana.... eldrazi spawns and eldrazi scions (spawns are 0/1s whereas the scions are the now standard 1/1s). If they had simply kept them as 'eldrazi spawn' tokens Broodwarden would still be lackluster but it would have been at least somewhat playable with an additional 24 potential sources of eldrazi tokens.
@bluedestiny2710
@bluedestiny2710 11 ай бұрын
You missed one terrible lord from Homelands: Faerie Noble. For G2, you get a 1/2 creature with flying that gives all other faeries you control +0/+1. Then, you can tap it to give all faeries you control +1/+0 until end of turn. Not only is the thing's mana cost relatively high, but it doesn't immediately influence your damage the turn it drops. You have to wait a turn to do so. Also, the damage buff doesnt even always apply. You have to wait for the right time to apply it. Also... it being Green where majority of the newer and most powerful faeries are found in Blue and Black also doesn't help it's case. Are faerie players really going to splash Green to have access to this lord?
@zackkelley2940
@zackkelley2940 11 ай бұрын
I do, though it's MOSTLY for Oko (and Willow Priestess and Scryb Ranger to a lesser extent). Faerie Noble is mostly just there for style (He looks like Bowie).^^
@schwarzerritter5724
@schwarzerritter5724 5 ай бұрын
I disagree with Sachi, Daughter of Seshiro. While the bonus she gives to Snakes really is weak, Sachi being a manadork that can produce 2 green mana should be enough to keep her of the list. Plus she shared a block with 3 pretty good creatures that are both Snakes and Shamans: Orochi Leafcaller, Sakura Tribe Scout and Sakura Tribe Elder.
@TaQa04
@TaQa04 11 ай бұрын
My Man mispronouncing one of the most iconic tribes in magic history, I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
@Garl_Vinland
@Garl_Vinland 11 ай бұрын
Ironically chief of the scale would help against first strike
@omarortiz9660
@omarortiz9660 11 ай бұрын
The only problem i see whit the lists is, it doesnt analize if the card was good on his time. Of course Akroma's Devoted is not amazing, but works well whit Clerics who tap for something. In a Black/White deck Shepherd of Rot was amazing. Battlefield Medic or Ancestor's Prophet where good too
@AsgneonthebesT
@AsgneonthebesT 11 ай бұрын
Old kangee is garbo too, 7 mana for a +1/+1
@fernandobanda5734
@fernandobanda5734 11 ай бұрын
Birds didn't deserve such a terrible lord.
@vovlasc9817
@vovlasc9817 11 ай бұрын
I know lmao, I love birds in mtg so much. New kangee is at least okay, especially when compared to his original version.
@GreentextFeverDreams
@GreentextFeverDreams 11 ай бұрын
I have a Kangee feather counter meme deck, Stormscape familiar and watcher of the spheres to reduce cost, aven mimeomancer and thrummingbird to place feather counters and judges familiars to counter and feed the aerie
@christopherb501
@christopherb501 11 ай бұрын
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@aristizle8797
@aristizle8797 11 ай бұрын
I tried really really hard to make a griffin deck with that card.
@josephwodarczyk977
@josephwodarczyk977 11 ай бұрын
How'd it come out????
@aristizle8797
@aristizle8797 11 ай бұрын
@@josephwodarczyk977 I made it right around Weatherlight, there were fewer griffins back then. I used pegasus...es and white weenie support to fill it out. It ended up being a white weenie deck with some mid game push potential. Not great. It had banding cards in it.
@josephwodarczyk977
@josephwodarczyk977 11 ай бұрын
@@aristizle8797 if you're ever feeling nostalgic, there's a griffin commander now. Zeriam. "Whenever a Griffin you control deals combat damage to a player, create a 2/2 white Griffin creature token with flying." Edit: also I fully support any deck with banding in it.
@doodlealchemist1257
@doodlealchemist1257 11 ай бұрын
Kobold Slander Detected!! ACTIVATE THE 0/2 FIRST STRIKERS!!
@Prince_Eva_Huepow
@Prince_Eva_Huepow 11 ай бұрын
4:57 First or Double?
@user-cp9id1mj8b
@user-cp9id1mj8b 8 ай бұрын
10:31 A poultry number?
@john-l4i6u
@john-l4i6u 10 ай бұрын
I feel like the quality of your videos is slipping quite quickly, you should have a talk with your writers.
@Necrotog82
@Necrotog82 11 ай бұрын
Yes there lords lords are terrible, but Kobolds was still love a first sight when i was young, so bad but i wanted it to work.
@aclevername7613
@aclevername7613 11 ай бұрын
I really really want mtg to make centaurs a solid tribe. One of my faiv mythical creatures.
@alch3nemy394
@alch3nemy394 10 ай бұрын
I don't trust anything with two ribcages
@aclevername7613
@aclevername7613 10 ай бұрын
@@alch3nemy394 Lol: ok that made me chuckle for some reasoon. I expected a "don't trust things with more then two legs" line. Nice one.
@ReederMG
@ReederMG 11 ай бұрын
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@darkyte5323
@darkyte5323 9 ай бұрын
Is there any mention of Old kangee on here? love playing him but dayum he sucks
@BookOfVampires
@BookOfVampires Ай бұрын
The snow zombie one is bad. I thought it would win.
@algotkristoffersson15
@algotkristoffersson15 11 ай бұрын
11:06 maskwood nexus
@theotherguy4456
@theotherguy4456 11 ай бұрын
Isn't there a sliver which punishes you for playing sluvers I think that is the worst lord around
@lawtonfriedland1228
@lawtonfriedland1228 10 ай бұрын
Chief of the scale goated in limited don’t try me
@devil00923
@devil00923 11 ай бұрын
Vote for Sliver tribal video 🥲
@algotkristoffersson15
@algotkristoffersson15 11 ай бұрын
Just play it with 10:34 creatures that are either
@marcoottina654
@marcoottina654 11 ай бұрын
I've done it for years: better to stick with soldiers, lately WotC have printed cards-advantage Soldiers
@ChristopherSmithNYC
@ChristopherSmithNYC 11 ай бұрын
What's tribal?
@josephwodarczyk977
@josephwodarczyk977 11 ай бұрын
It's when you build around a single creature type.
@barongeoffrey75
@barongeoffrey75 11 ай бұрын
Giving trample and increasing thoughness....
@sophiepedigree7139
@sophiepedigree7139 11 ай бұрын
Slivers, not silvers.
@biancablayze1453
@biancablayze1453 2 ай бұрын
Zuberi, Family Guy 😅
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