Agreed haha, this list was made before world explosion was released
@craigjuan57443 жыл бұрын
That game deserves a physical release. I would buy it
@roger2k3 жыл бұрын
@@TheElectricUnderground new list please
@streetmagik31053 жыл бұрын
I hope it gets a physical release. Excellent shmup!!
@Chronosv23 жыл бұрын
As of a couple months ago, the dev of Devil Engine reported that they've come to an agreement with Dangen Entertainment, and they now have full control of their game now. So it's a safe bet to get the game at this point.
@shikikan_kanchou2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see Azure Reflections on the list!
@mazstg88444 жыл бұрын
As a super Ikaruga fan, I appreciated your criteria of reserving the top seeds for console exclusives and better crafted ports. I currently own the 3 most recent versions of Ika (plus emu for save states cough cough) and I 95% play on Steam. The compressed OSTs and lag hiccups when playing docked are noticeable drawbacks for the Switch versions.
@RiRinKal4 жыл бұрын
Yikes...
@outexyt4 жыл бұрын
Of course in the end it is all personal taste, but I think Super Hydorah deserves a spot on your list. Such a well made, creative and challenging hommage to old school shooters.
@boghogSTG4 жыл бұрын
Psyvariar Delta hell yes! Can't recommend that game enough. Ingenious scoring mechanics, it takes what is usually a passive gameplay mechanic and turns it into a hyperactive fast paced spectacle. Instead of picking good spots, tap dodging and waiting for bullets to drift your way, you're chasing them down and dancing all over the screen.
@mishikomishiko90884 жыл бұрын
Switch is my main console. So thank you very much for this. Greatly appreciate it.
@dr_ubo4 жыл бұрын
This list will need a review when Crimzon Clover comes to the Switch. Great list honestly. Personally I'd add Pawarumi and Super Hydora.
@jamesclark93804 жыл бұрын
Darius Cozmic Collection seems to be a good menu simulator
@carlcueto26893 жыл бұрын
Neko Navy and Atomik RunGunJumpGun (runner/shmup hybrid) are missing here.
@BillB8084 жыл бұрын
I think i might find a spot for super hydorah and mayybe jamestown+ also
@BeugsTheLegend4 жыл бұрын
I haven’t picked up super hydorah yet but Jamestown+ might be my favorite shooter of all time.
@Albertredneck4 жыл бұрын
@@BeugsTheLegend Both are great.
@FuZZbaLLbee4 жыл бұрын
Definitely would recommend playing ESP Ra de psy horizontally with a flip grip.
@syltendo4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the list! Apart from these (half of which I’ve not played yet), I have a soft spot for Steredenn: Binary Stars and Freedom Finger.
@jeremydagg15523 жыл бұрын
No ghostblade HD? I was surprised to not see that on your list.
@TheElectricUnderground3 жыл бұрын
Oh I think that might have come out after I made the list, or I wasn't aware of the release
@Nicklaceydood3 жыл бұрын
Psyvariar Delta was the first shmup I ever bought and it’s also the game that got me hooked to the genre. This list is great!
@thelastgogeta4 жыл бұрын
I found your channel when searching for info on Dangen and really appreciate this list confirming that ACA releases (only have fighting games I think) are legit. Besides Thunder Force IV, I think I only have Astebreed and Cat Girl with Salad on Switch. That Touhou game will have to go up on my radar along with some others. Psyvariar Delta's blazing barrel roll grazing sounds neat too. 12 save states from Darius Cozmic Collection is sick... It really hurts that like... zero of these games have demos in addition to how small the community seems to be. Indie fighting games have it a bit similar.
@traphousegamer19063 жыл бұрын
Great list for all these games available on the US Nintendo eshop? And do they have any physical releases
@TheElectricUnderground3 жыл бұрын
I 'll have to double check!
@andrewbutler95332 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed watching this way after the fact and seeing now that all those games and DLCs you mentioned have since been released on Switch. 👍
@TheElectricUnderground2 жыл бұрын
Ha that s great!!
@mrblackjacker32.034 жыл бұрын
Ah Devil Engine. Probably one absolute gem of the last 2 years made by newcomers to the genre but not for newcomers because is harsh. People with practice is welcome. By the way, Protoculture Games still don't have access the game, didn't got paid and Ignition isn't released yet. tl;dr: No, you can't buy it on any platform yet, not even the soundtrack album.
@headman824 жыл бұрын
Nice list. DU3 is probably my favorite of the bunch. Thanks for the recommendations. I actually wasn’t aware of some of them
@THESHMUPMASTER4 жыл бұрын
Devil Engine is great (even if it's basically a watered down version of a Thunder Force game). I've practiced it a bit but haven't beaten it yet... Azure Reflections is just.. bizarre LOL... Ikaruga I had major issues playing in handheld mode... Screen is just too small for me. And, I'll be that guy.... WHERE'S THUNDER FORCE 4????? IMO, it blows Devil Engine away. Also, M2 handled the port.. and as you know, they have done some amazing ports. Including your #1 game here ESP Ra.De. Psi. Lastly, you should check out Pawarumi if you haven't. They ported it to Switch last year I believe and it's a really solid shmup/bullet hell. I enjoyed this video man, under 15 minutes! I have time to watch it! :D
@55ense5imulation43 жыл бұрын
Ikaruga physical is dope as fork
@TheElectricUnderground3 жыл бұрын
I would be knifed with excitement 🗡️
@55ense5imulation43 жыл бұрын
Shing shing!
@jayhollow29364 жыл бұрын
Are you ever going to do a video on best 3ds/DS shumps?
@TheElectricUnderground4 жыл бұрын
That s a cool idea! Yeah maybe :-)
@jayhollow29364 жыл бұрын
@@TheElectricUnderground They're several hidden gems on the 3ds eshop. Chain Blaster, Flip the core, Galaxy Saver, little red riding hood's zombie bbq, G.G Series Wonderland, Dark Spirits, Assault Buster, and serval others. You should check them out.
@Magellan62763 жыл бұрын
Steel Empire in stereoscopic mode is crazy awesome!!
@CAVEDATA3 жыл бұрын
Is deathsmiles coming to switch in the us, if anyone knows?
@TheElectricUnderground3 жыл бұрын
I haven't heard, might have to go the japan route for now.
@sfbsfb4 жыл бұрын
Great picks. As others have mentioned, I’d also rate Super Hydorah and Jamestown highly. Another good one on Switch is Dezatopia. Maybe kinda niche, as its mechanics are unusual, and it looks like an unreleased Sega Saturn game - but very much to my liking. Don’t recall whether you ever tried that one.
@fatz4204 жыл бұрын
great video bro, it would be awesome to see you do a top 11 SHMUPS list for the PS2 in the future
@TheElectricUnderground4 жыл бұрын
Oh that s a cool idea!
@shahmcdonald3 жыл бұрын
So... Esprade is only available in Japan?
@TheElectricUnderground3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@shahmcdonald3 жыл бұрын
😢
@JuanRoosterbeard4 жыл бұрын
N•12 Súper Hydora! Great video Mark.
@titi642304 жыл бұрын
Hello , do you know if the input lag is better on the psikyo collection bravo than on gunbird 2 by zéro div ? It was terrible
@RicDreamlandAvalon5 ай бұрын
Cool list. But I don't find the first one in the e-shop.
@MP-S-TG4 жыл бұрын
Those restars on Ikaruga are definitely an oversight BUT here's a "pro" tip to make it better: In extra options set "easy menu" on! That gets rid off 2 selection screens, keeps your previous choices and makes it waaay faster and less tedious to try again by exiting to the menu Solid list! I have yet to play Rolling Gunner (looking forward to). And also, I discovered the Psikyo games on the Switch, I liked them (Strikers II, Tengai) but the lack of features is terrible
@TheElectricUnderground4 жыл бұрын
Oh great tip!
@Pedro49604 жыл бұрын
Ww
@Pedro49604 жыл бұрын
D
@Pedro49604 жыл бұрын
Wwwww
@MP-S-TG4 жыл бұрын
Mark I just played another ACA NEOGEO game (Metal Slug) and if all ports work the same you don't need to exit the game in Blazing Star to load the save state, just go "back to title screen" and start a new game and it will automatically load it (still cumbersome, but less so) ;)
@TheElectricUnderground4 жыл бұрын
Good to know! Wish they would just add real savestates though ha
@b3asle5514 жыл бұрын
Thanks really enjoyed the video. Didn’t know about Azure Reflections and may pick it up now
@FuZZbaLLbee4 жыл бұрын
As a newcomer to Shmups, I do enjoy Gunbird2 on the Switch but that might change when I become more critical of input lag. ESP Ra de is my favorite as well. It even supports a 4x3 monitor in vertical mode by allowing to stretch the image. Other games squash the widescreen into 4x3 giving bars and changing the aspect ratio of the game.
@salvatoredidio94243 жыл бұрын
Yes but the Input lag is about 6ms Same as the Dreamcast Version. The Psikyo Bullets are so fast that even without Input lag the only Thing U can survive is memorisation.
@D-A-K4 жыл бұрын
Just got a Switch and I'm stoked to get into some shmups. Thanks for this!
@wesleyvanpinxteren59613 жыл бұрын
i'm gonna ask it here, what are good games on switch for somebody trying to get into shmups and bullet hell style games?
Great vid -- thanks man. Couple of gems in here that I totally missed. :)
@alexrushdy27514 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! EU talked about Darius Gaiden! Lol Darius Cozmic Collection is my hands down #1 for switch. I love Gaiden. If you ever want someone to chat about Darius on the pod hit a brother up 😂
@yakovhadash4 жыл бұрын
in the Defender type free-roaming category: Graceful Explosion Machine and Aqua Kitty
@hooksnfangs60064 жыл бұрын
Wonderful list! Ill definitely have to check out Psyvariar Delta some time. Also nice to see Azure Reflections get in the list! I've spent so many hours on it along with Rolling Gunner and Esp RaDe.
@alexevaldez4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this!
@Yozora_153 жыл бұрын
Hoping CAVE will make a Dodonpachi port in the future...
@TheElectricUnderground3 жыл бұрын
ME TOO with campaign version included
@Yozora_153 жыл бұрын
@The Electric Underground crossing my fingers, but with more shmups being released lately (Yay for Espgaluda 2 being available now on Switch!), the future is looking well... Hope Capcom adds more shmup packages to their Arcade Stadium thing too... I'm really glad they included Progear no Arashi on one of the packages...
@Picouzi914 жыл бұрын
Crimzon Clover World Explosion leaked, future number 1?
@TheElectricUnderground4 жыл бұрын
ccwi would indeed be number 1 !
@salvatoredidio94243 жыл бұрын
No Love for Psikyo ? Or the Input lag makes them unplayable? Agree full with ESP RA DE and even Crimzon Clover, Mushihimesama, Espgaluda2 and Dodonpachi can Change my mind.
@TheElectricUnderground3 жыл бұрын
It s the input lag, otherwise it would be on the list
@salvatoredidio94243 жыл бұрын
@@TheElectricUnderground Have heard the Dreamcast Versions have also Input lag. What Version U recommend for the Psikyo Games?
@neontetra10004 жыл бұрын
If caladrius was a vertical I’d like it but I really can’t be bothered to slowly go to the other side of the screen all the time just to kill a couple of enemies
@mylastright3 жыл бұрын
Devil Engine was awesome!
@DSilvergun3 жыл бұрын
Need 2021 Edition.
@DrSid213 жыл бұрын
Is it comfortable to play these in handheld mode? IMO switch original model is bulky and battery life is very bad. I primarily game on PC
@TheElectricUnderground3 жыл бұрын
Yes if you add in the hori d pad on the left and the hori split pad pro on the Right :-)
@warwize4 жыл бұрын
shmup junkie の 方 が 良 い.
@rurouni823 жыл бұрын
Have you figured out anyway yet to make the zero dev stuff perform better?
@TheElectricUnderground3 жыл бұрын
Just emulate them on retro arch on the switch so yes :-)
@critterarcade4 жыл бұрын
With various new shmups and ports of older shmups coming out in both PS4 and Switch, should the PS4 performance be better? I’m considering a Switch to play CC on my Games Wizard (Vewlix clone) but then wonder if I should load it up with other shooters or stick with the PS4.
@TheElectricUnderground4 жыл бұрын
The PS4 is the stronger console for shmups (much stronger I feel), so it would probably be the better fit for that kind of setup :-)
@critterarcade4 жыл бұрын
@@TheElectricUnderground thanks Mark. I figured as much but wasn’t sure how much difference it made with 2D these days. I’ve got so many games to play, maybe I’ll just hold my breath for Crimzon Clover on PS4.
@DSilvergun3 жыл бұрын
No ESPRADE?
@TheElectricUnderground3 жыл бұрын
This was before rade came out :-) will update the list next jan
@pablor.1224 жыл бұрын
Dear Mark. I'm considering the purchase of a Nintendo Switch. If possible, I would like to know what do you think about Switch Lite vs Switch original for shmups. I read your article and your discussion about it on system11 forum, but I can't find any updated info about it. Did you tried the Switch Lite?. Is it any better/worse for playing shmups?. I am interested only in the handheld aspects (like you, I prefer PC when I'm at home). Thanks in advance for your help, and thanks again for your great articles and videos on this subject. All the best.
@TheElectricUnderground4 жыл бұрын
Hey my dude! So I have made up my mind on the subject! I d Definetly say go with the original switch and buy the hori joycon and the split pad pro :-) they make controlling the games significantly better
@pablor.1224 жыл бұрын
@@TheElectricUnderground I'm taking your advice!. Thanks a lot, man.
@rahndail38634 жыл бұрын
Hey Mark - does the Shmuparch version available now work on Switch? I saw your vid demomstrating Shmuparch on Switch but don't see a separate build for it. If it's the same download, is installation as simple as replacing all folders from the base Retroarch download?
@TheElectricUnderground4 жыл бұрын
Hey I saw your message on the forum! The setting on the switch are actually very different then the settings on pc or pie (switch is not as capable and has some ui differences) if you would like I can post a guide on the switch settings for SA :-)
@rahndail38634 жыл бұрын
@@TheElectricUnderground Sorry for the multiple comments hah, just wasn't sure which means of communication you preferred. That would be awesome - definitely interested in using SA on Switch. Hopefully it won't be a long guide, but I'm sure a decent amount of people would be interested in this as well.
@neontetra10003 жыл бұрын
Did you see several cane games were announced for switch today? Mushi . Dfk and espguda 2 Hope they get ltd editions
@TheElectricUnderground3 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to find where this was announced
@mareksekua42874 жыл бұрын
When the pc edition is coming? great video, I think about buying switch
@TheElectricUnderground4 жыл бұрын
Oh I have a video kinda like that in the works
@MurphyReal4 жыл бұрын
My only "complaint" about Esp.Ra.De. Psi is that unlike the other ShotTriggers ports it doesn't have a unique arrange outside of Arcade Plus in the same way that there's Deathtiny for Ketsui, Fever for Dangun Feveron, etc. You can of course use custom modes for practice and to work up to Arcade difficulty, but that always feels more like a stepping stone than a valid intermediate target for its own merits in the same way an arrange that may also have unique scoring or mechanics does. Still, I think that, since M2 STG ports are in many practical ways already "better than arcade" (as much as that's a thing), this is a minor quibble about "how much better" really. Also Jamestown+ is pretty enjoyable, and I think the fact that there's scoreboards for each individual stage that are actually combined across all difficulties is pretty cool. I tend to be better able to focus on and enjoy grinding and dialing in shorter stuff like the CCWI Time Attack, and it really delivers on that. The only part I'm not completely crazy about is the "vertizontal" orientation, which is just not my favorite.
@JustAnOldGuyGaming3 жыл бұрын
Love this video, we need an updated one mind 😉
@TheElectricUnderground3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Next year will do an update!
@nekononiaow4 жыл бұрын
Great selection, thank So! Do these come in cartridge form? I do not want to lose my purchase in a few years when Nintendo decides to stop supporting the Switch and disables re-downloads.
@TheElectricUnderground4 жыл бұрын
Some of them do! I think you'll probably need to pick them up on limited run or stuff like that.
@MP-S-TG3 жыл бұрын
Don't uninstall the games then, in the same way you wouldn't "uninstall/remove" your cartridges from your physical collection. Wouldn't it be the "same" in that regard?
@futureicon233 жыл бұрын
I've got a new question now. From all of the ones you've played which versions of Gunbird 1 and Gunbird 2 are the best?
@TheElectricUnderground3 жыл бұрын
Saturn for gunbird 1, Gunbird 2 is a tough one because the dreamcast port is a laggy boy too. So maybe the steam port? I don't have the steam port but the steam strikers 2 port is less laggy. Both games need a stronger port though I think, either m2 or arcade archives
@futureicon233 жыл бұрын
@@TheElectricUnderground After checking out some of the gameplay performances on the PC version I can only feel nothing but disappointed... Have to accept the Saturn and Dreamcast versions for now lol I want to play Deathsmiles II SO badly!
@kingdavid92524 жыл бұрын
Its impossible to find esp ra.de.psi in the eshop search engine
@kingdavid92524 жыл бұрын
Fuck the only game I havent played on the fucking list is number 1 and I cant even fuckibg buy it.
@TheElectricUnderground4 жыл бұрын
store-jp.nintendo.com/list/software/70010000020461.html Here you go!! You 'll have to download it from the Japanese eshop which is a bit of a pain but doable!
@kingdavid92524 жыл бұрын
@@TheElectricUnderground sweet
@AnonYmous-yb5ew4 жыл бұрын
No Steredenn? Admittedly I haven't played it myself (yet) but have been hearing good things.
@TheElectricUnderground4 жыл бұрын
No, it's not quite my style but I can see why other players could connect with it :-)
@Jonathan-ei7vp3 жыл бұрын
How fun that the #1 is not available outside of Japan
@TheElectricUnderground3 жыл бұрын
I know, come on m2 make the damn thing international.
@@TheElectricUnderground just set up a Japanese account :)
@puckman32414 жыл бұрын
Skyforce Anniversary should be there
@superscatboy4 жыл бұрын
I have a real soft spot for that game too.
@MP-S-TG4 жыл бұрын
G.R.I.N.D.
@skepticaltile3 жыл бұрын
Darius cozmic collection and devil engine should have had higher spots imo
@TheElectricUnderground3 жыл бұрын
Going to update this list soon, lots of cool changes
@digitalworms4 жыл бұрын
I so wanna buy a switch! But with money right now and so much on the list idk when it would be right!
@clarku43 жыл бұрын
Always found Danmaku 3 a bit bland because it doesn't have any real backgrounds. Also a bit repetitive. Some great choices on this list though. Nice one.
@djdedan4 жыл бұрын
hmm no idea why i haven't subscribed to this channel.. .anyway i just did - keep it up.
@TheElectricUnderground4 жыл бұрын
:-D
@RiRinKal4 жыл бұрын
Original Gradius is on Nintendo Switch by Arcade Archives, but I wish the second game is on Switch already (Probably the best Gradius game besides the console release)
@RiRinKal4 жыл бұрын
@@seanmcbay I am aware of the Konami Collection. But i heard its western version of the game called Vulcan Venture. Dont know if Konami patched out to have original Japanese version tho
@55ense5imulation43 жыл бұрын
Esp a rade and rolling gunner and ......
@Ammothief413 жыл бұрын
Raiden IV soon!!!!! Edit: It's arrived!!!
@mrhobs3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, this was the one I was looking for... EDIT: K erasing some stuff that you answered in the video. 😄 I want to play Gradius 3 (arcade) since I liked the SNES version back in the day... hope it doesn't lag too bad. (I only have Switch basically, so unless there's a good Mac port, I'm a Switch gamer. Maybe someday I'll set up a little PC, but I'm still likely going to use LED/LCD. IDK, maybe one of my standard CRTs would be good?)
@TheElectricUnderground3 жыл бұрын
Gonna have to update this vid soon, so many new great switch shmup releases since then.
@mrhobs3 жыл бұрын
@@TheElectricUnderground Awesome bro, whenever you do, that will be great! You've already hit almost every topic I've always wondered about... been fascinated by shmups most of my gaming life, they really do have a mystique about them (for us Westerners anyway), but finally found your channel for a wealth of information and discussion on things I thought were only in my head... stuff from a bygone era, but glad to see there's pretty active shmup scene out there.
@fightaman73 жыл бұрын
"Ikaruga is not a rare, hard to come by shmup" checks eBay for Switch release and lowest price is $190. Man these limited print releases are ruining physical game collecting
@TheElectricUnderground3 жыл бұрын
Yeah this was made before game prices exploded
@neontetra10004 жыл бұрын
You can throw all these in the bin when crimson clover drops 😉 I have to buy a bloody switch to play it! Might be cheaper to buy a pc!?
@johnhunter68664 жыл бұрын
I gotta ask, when did Shmups or Shooting games only mean Bullet Hell games? The Shump genre is bigger than Japanese or Indy Bullet hell games. Bullet Hell is a sub genre of Shumps. I guess it’s just a naming convention but if you say “check out these upcoming games where you slowly move a pixel around super dense bullet patterns” just say upcoming Bullet Hells.
@TheElectricUnderground4 жыл бұрын
Bullet hell became the dominant subgenre around the 2000s, which is also when some of the best shmups were being made, so that s one reason why they are so popular. There are a ton of more classic style shmups around though! :-)
@gravewolfwood57474 жыл бұрын
How’s the switch lite with shumps?
@TheElectricUnderground4 жыл бұрын
I m not sure! I need to try one out.
@dadrising64644 жыл бұрын
subpar imo, but doable.. no flipgrip option, smaller screen, but better dpad and more comfy on the go.
@thelastgogeta4 жыл бұрын
@@dadrising6464 3rd party Joy Cons more than make up for the shortcomings of the regular Switch. Nothing can make the Switch Vanilla smaller, but if you are playing a shump which recognises both analog and digital inputs and have the left side drift... Oh well. A second controller is actually needed.
@dadrising64644 жыл бұрын
@@thelastgogeta ? maybe i got something wrong.. ha was asking about the switch lite.
@thelastgogeta4 жыл бұрын
@@dadrising6464 You got nothing wrong, I was just saying that the shortcomings of the regular Switch in comparison to the Lite are easy to get around. You are completely correct if we are just talking about a Switch Lite vs Switch alone with nothing else.
@EricKlein4 жыл бұрын
pew pew pew
@afistfulofpimples17454 жыл бұрын
💩
@pjmlfc054 жыл бұрын
Thunderforce 4 is also a great shooter!
@BillB8084 жыл бұрын
Neko Navy....try it...its going in the list hiiigh up i promise
@TheElectricUnderground4 жыл бұрын
Ok! I 'll try it :-)
@sorubro21933 жыл бұрын
Shmup fans so bitter about ikaruga, lmao, every fanbase has a game like that
@MRrZero10 ай бұрын
remake this list please
@mcayea4 жыл бұрын
I thought Rigid Force Redux, Super Hydorah, Habroxia, and Sturmwind would be a good contender on this list, I had a lot of fun with them, Devil Engine is one of my top favorites too, wish that BS with the publisher would get worked out, been waiting for ignition for ever! Also I will never understand why Ikaruga is on every console out there, but not one port of Radiant Silver Gun
@sonicmania99934 жыл бұрын
The Xbox 360 version of Radiant Silvergun is playable on XB1.
@mcayea4 жыл бұрын
@@sonicmania9993 I dont have an XBOX,
@jimbuddy91423 жыл бұрын
it's not supposed to be "shmup" as in "pup" ... it is pronounced "shoot em up" ... when someone pronounces it wrong, it is almost always a sign of a rookie who doesn't know what they are talking about
@TheElectricUnderground3 жыл бұрын
Shmup is a widely recognized usage among players now, yes even super players and world record holders, so I would say it s more outdated to insist on not using the term :-) insisting that players use the full term of shoot em up even though shmup is widely recognized and used strikes me as gatekeeping honestly
@kirkcavenaugh7583 жыл бұрын
Niice
@sonicmania99934 жыл бұрын
Zero Gunner 2
@dadrising64644 жыл бұрын
Damn, you are raping my wallet. btw, does anyone can give me a rwcommendation which stick i should put in my mayflash f300? is there a sanwa one good for shmups?
@TheElectricUnderground4 жыл бұрын
Sanwa is a solid stick :-) the siemitsu ls 32 is also very good
@dadrising64644 жыл бұрын
@@TheElectricUnderground A sanwa jlf would fit right in, could save me some hassle , is there a version thats espeacially suited for shmups? or nything i should get with it like a different spring?
@marcianoacuerda3 жыл бұрын
As The electric underground mentioned. The seimitsu ls32 is made for shmups. It has a short throw good for those small movements. Very tiring on fighting games though in case you want a versatile stick.