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[@TeamChaosYugi]

What an insane end to game 3. Wow

[@xscriblez6824]

@13:06 all the hype just to announce Joshua’s down 1 😂

[@xCorvus7x]

25:47 Using Cyber Valley you can bridge into Snowman Eater from Ryko.

[@kollin1138]

When a die roll goes that long, you know it’s a good game

[@xCorvus7x]

24:37 How exactly would Crossout Designator interact with Edison-format Future Fusion? The effect activates the turn you activate the card but it seems to create a lingering effect (which summons the Fusion monster two turns later). Would the negation of the effect (but not its activation) turn Future Fusion into a dead card on field with no monsters send to the graveyard (and no Fusion monster revealed)?

[@elijahbuscho7715]

If you chain designator to future fusion, the effect to reveal and send does not occur, so the lingering effect doesn't work either because no fusion was revealed. If designator is played after future fusion has already resolved, I imagine that the lingering effect would disappear because I would interpret that as an "effect on the field", but I'm not totally sure.

[@xCorvus7x]

@@elijahbuscho7715 Since the effect is bound to the card, it might be on the field, but is it really a lingering effect then? I thought lingering effects were independent of the cards from which they originate; after resolving, it just takes a bit longer to realise their resolved effects. During the second Standby phase after activation, does the effect to Fusion summon start a chain or does the Fusion summon simply happen (just the same as Maxx C drawing cards or Mirrorjade nuking the board during the End phase)? If the effect of Future Fusion is actually a lingering effect, I'd expect the Fusion summon itself to simply happen (after which, of course, a chain is formed, just as with any other summon). Then Crossout Designator shouldn't do anything either, if it's not chained to Future Fusion's effect activating (formerly responding to the activation of the card, nowadays during the first Standby phase afterwards). The on the field clause on Crossout Designator would only apply to continuous effects such as Macrocosm, effects that allow the placement of Spell counters, etc.

[@elijahbuscho7715]

@@xCorvus7x Yeah, I guess it doesn't make sense being classified as a lingering effect if it worked how I said. I was confused with the ruling that if it leaves the field the monster doesn't summon, but that would make sense if the lingering effect is simply tied to the card, and when the card leaves the lingering eff leaves with it. So then I was wrong, and the monster should be able to summon if designator is used after the first effect has resolved. I guess even Spell Canceller wouldn't be able to stop it then? If it goes Future Fusion resolve turn 1, then opponent summons spell canceller summoned turn 2, and both cards stay on the field, I imagine that the fusion would still summon on turn 5 in the standby phase then. I think that makes sense, right? The summon in the standby phase does not start a chain

[@xCorvus7x]

@@elijahbuscho7715 Yeah, so it seems. For what it's worth, that is how it works (or at least worked) for Return of the Doomed, which has a lingering effect similar to Future Fusion (it's mentioned in the Rulings section on Spell Canceller).

[@SavagePUGman]

He didn't pop vayu with ryko and ended losing because of it.

[@ryanmccarthy4088]

god damn check grave how many ryko... then go into bora push and run into ryko.. either you are a good edison player or not..

[@sinderside8279]

Gojo ?

[@redgadgetyugioh]

The commentators being such Joshua fanboys is kinda cringe hahahahha. Unfair to the other guy!