Top 5 Rastakhan Cards Players Misrated: Hearthstone Quick Take

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The Penniless Player

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@magnatorra5325
@magnatorra5325 5 жыл бұрын
this guy is the hearthstone version of cgp grey, and i enjoy his content, and i enjoy this channels content. still annoying how long both youtube channels take to produce videos, but i understand without the time sink the videos would noticeably drop in quality
@meris8486
@meris8486 5 жыл бұрын
Da Undertakah was good but Druid got nerfed
@sh0gun___
@sh0gun___ 5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if Da Undatakah becomes a top tier card after rotations.
@meris8486
@meris8486 5 жыл бұрын
@@sh0gun___ Same
@joshg2188
@joshg2188 5 жыл бұрын
That just proved that you can even throw bad cards into the old Druid shell and have a playable deck. Untatakah Taunt Druid was worse than normal Taunt Druid. 8 mana lose some tempo and wait for a deathrattle is bad hearthstone. Card is bad.
@meris8486
@meris8486 5 жыл бұрын
@@joshg2188 It's not as simple as that, the deck could go _infinite_ which is broken in some matchups but irrelevant in others it's just that usually that doesn't matter, but this doesn't mean there won't be a meta where it's very powerful.
@user-et3xn2jm1u
@user-et3xn2jm1u 5 жыл бұрын
@@joshg2188 I usually tried to save a Naturalize or a charged Spellstone, or occasionally an Obliterate, for the Undatakah. Once you had 2 in the deck you could play out Undatakah a lot more freely.
@Renwoxing13
@Renwoxing13 5 жыл бұрын
My personal opinion on Rastakhan Rumbles MVP card is... Dun du du dan - amani war bear!
@SynderFGC
@SynderFGC 5 жыл бұрын
I'mma go with Baited Arrow. I knew it'd be good
@jackferring6790
@jackferring6790 5 жыл бұрын
I expect that usage of Spirit of the Dragonhawk will spike when Baku is kicked out of standard and people look for ways to still use Jan'alai on turn 7. Whether its stays in there or if Jan'alai ends up non-viable without Baku is yet to be seen.
@warptens5652
@warptens5652 5 жыл бұрын
Janalai is played in all big spell mages (not odd) with daring fire-eater spirit of the dragonhawk is horribly bad
@jackferring6790
@jackferring6790 5 жыл бұрын
@@warptens5652 fair enough, though with us losing Spiteful Summoner, Grand Archivist, Raven Familiar, and Dragon's Fury Big Spell mage is pretty much done for. If Mage doesn't get a new control-oriented deck Janalai might drop in usage.
@warptens5652
@warptens5652 5 жыл бұрын
yeah big spell mage will be gone, and even if big spells were still there I doubt any ctrl mage could work without jaina. They will have to print some serious value card for ctrl mage to be a thing.
@madelinew2884
@madelinew2884 5 жыл бұрын
Is your rating going to change after rotation? After all most of the cards had been overshadowed by mammoth year and will now make a semi new pool from witch I bet some unexpected cards are gonna shine.
@Bruh-el9js
@Bruh-el9js 5 жыл бұрын
7:31 spirit of the frog in maly shaman was rising bruh
@iansamuel1811
@iansamuel1811 5 жыл бұрын
yeah i'm pretty sure that card is just a 3 mana auctioneer with stealth... why is no one playing it? i think maly shaman in wild is way better than people give it credit for
@TheIvasyl
@TheIvasyl 5 жыл бұрын
Ian Samuel I saw Sinto playing a lot of malygos shaman a thought it was a thing in wild
@Bruh-el9js
@Bruh-el9js 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheIvasyl it is a thing in wild, there just aren't enough people playing it
@draw1341
@draw1341 5 жыл бұрын
Man, i like the enthusiasm in your voice. You improved greatly. Keep it up.
@elliotberg4572
@elliotberg4572 5 жыл бұрын
his voice makes we want to blow my brain out
@ebigunso
@ebigunso 5 жыл бұрын
I run the Spirit of the Tiger in my even pally deck, complete with Dinosize and it works amazingly well.
@jorgenand8
@jorgenand8 5 жыл бұрын
I wish serrated tooth made a minion in your hand have rush. Maybe for the next turn if permanent rush would be op.
@ramonestefano
@ramonestefano 5 жыл бұрын
Your analysis are great, you help the community evolve a lot by doing what you do.
@Hugo00000
@Hugo00000 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think we should take any conclusions for the cards in Rastakhan expansion yet. This set will be judge after the mighty and loved month of april.
@victorheliangelo2666
@victorheliangelo2666 5 жыл бұрын
spirit of the frog is being slept on and will be the core with thunderhead for the best shaman deck in the next rotation
@iansamuel1811
@iansamuel1811 5 жыл бұрын
3 mana auctioneer.. nuff said
@rawovunlapin8201
@rawovunlapin8201 5 жыл бұрын
It's worth noting that these corrections are for a meta that appeared after 2 major rounds of nerfs, seriously affecting the playability of the enforcer compared to what we knew before the expansion dropped.
@HibeePin
@HibeePin 5 жыл бұрын
Spirit of the frog will be good after rotation in aggro shaman with doomhammer and likkim. Likkim is just too good
@foolishsamurai9
@foolishsamurai9 5 жыл бұрын
spirit of the frog does wonders in wild even tho aggro shaman is not that popular
@neon1321
@neon1321 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if spirit of the lynx would be usable if it switched effects with Untamed Beastmaster. Directly handcuffing your beasts as you draw them as well as having the same cost as beastmaster for less stats and a +1/+1 rather than +2/+2? (I don’t remember the beast masters stats buff)
@BranHawk775
@BranHawk775 5 жыл бұрын
Funny, I was watching the other counterpart to this vid and was wondering when this one would come. Good vid!
@Earlgrando
@Earlgrando 5 жыл бұрын
Players really underestimated baited arrow. It saw tons of play pre nerf and still sees play .
@schumerus6786
@schumerus6786 5 жыл бұрын
The Tiger Spirit is not as bad as people think. Sure it’s a massive throwback to play it early, but if you have one in your deck and run a decent amount of spell, particularly buff-spells (because putting a buff in the spirit is game changing) and you might just be able to summon a bunch of 2/2 in the late game or a 4/7 and 4/4 for 8 Mana with Blessing of Kings. I wouldn’t let this one slip out of the radar just yet, it’s time will come
@somalianpirate7305
@somalianpirate7305 5 жыл бұрын
In regards to the Spirit cards, Dragonhawk and Frog has seen competitive play in Wild, in Even Mage and Burn Shaman (respectively).
@thewave1983
@thewave1983 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't a lot of streamers say Wardruid Loti was going to be a thing? I never saw it once in the 2 months I played through the meta. It's a terrible card.
@bycmozeszymon
@bycmozeszymon 5 жыл бұрын
That's mostly because all good Druid decks run some Oaken Summons synergy, which obviously makes Loti awful.
@OnEiNsAnEmOtHeRfUcKa
@OnEiNsAnEmOtHeRfUcKa 5 жыл бұрын
For some reason people thought a lot of incredibly mediocre options was somehow equal to two very good ones.
@warptens5652
@warptens5652 5 жыл бұрын
it was definitely over rated, but the card is not terrible, it's druid of the scythe with more options, and druid of the scythe sees some play in spiteful druid. It's just not worth crafting a legendary. It's a bit like crystalizer that should see play over dire mole in rogue decks but doesn't because it's epic
@TheIvasyl
@TheIvasyl 5 жыл бұрын
1. The competition is too high. Some good cards may not make it to the best decks. 2. We got 6 expansions at the same time 3. Watch Purple, my personal best Tog druid player
@chrisjason7607
@chrisjason7607 5 жыл бұрын
How to fix spirit of the dead “my favorite of the 9 spirits” and make it competitive *Change (after a friendly minion dies, shuffle a 1 cost copy into your deck)* *To (WHENEVER a friendly minion dies shuffle a 1 cost copy into your deck)* Because it will be able to shuffle after a boardclear, The Whole shuffle strategy for priest goes to hell when i play my second spirit and get hellfired and i have a Bwonsamdi that can no longer fill my hand with hacks
@arumon123
@arumon123 5 жыл бұрын
spirit of the dead is already competitive though... maybe you're just not playing it right? because if it was whenever a minion dies what would be the point of playing any class other than priest? we'd have the same problems as when hunter over took the meta after the recent expansion.
@eyalhecht637
@eyalhecht637 5 жыл бұрын
@@arumon123 spirit of the dead is competitive? I wouldn't call a card thats played in less than 1% of decks competitive (according to hs replay)
@chrisjason7607
@chrisjason7607 5 жыл бұрын
@@arumon123 it's not, it's in no meta or tier 2 deck, and it dies to everything. I'm pretty proficient at using it in wild but I cannot pass rank 17, if I'm running it as a key card. It has to be in a deck based around card draw, and if said card is destroyed you put yourself at risk of fatigue 6 cards before your opponent. (Because you'll have loothorders drawing cards for no reason now. And it wouldn't be that bad if it was "whenever" it would just shuffle itself when it dies. It Can still be silenced and you'd still have to wait to draw it again. Now yes that change would make spirit of the dead marginally batter than the other spirits but it wouldn't make all other decks obsolete, as ANY shuffle deck loses to an agro deck if said deck is capable of lethal on turn 5 or 6. I've got the whole team of SOTD, Bwonsamdi, and other synergies, but the card just vanishes to fast, in most cases I have to pack mirage caller just so I can shuffle the spirit when it does and it still takes too long. Only 2 things would change 1) it shuffles minions killed in board clear 2)it shuffles when it dies Nothing crazy
@chrisjason7607
@chrisjason7607 5 жыл бұрын
Oof I didn't mean to type an essay, I just want that card to be great
@milozaagsma1155
@milozaagsma1155 5 жыл бұрын
Thats soo fucking op my dude...
@F2PAlius
@F2PAlius 5 жыл бұрын
5:05 I have a standard pirate rogue deck that uses Serrated Tooth and it is decent. I dont think it was Overrated, but i wouldn't say it is bad. I mean, there are many pirates in the game with weapon synergies and the Tooth is a 1 mana weapon for rogue.
@Boon.Oreo6042
@Boon.Oreo6042 5 жыл бұрын
I used the Serrated Tooth on a kind of zoo-pirate rogue that was like a control deck (yeah, it was weird af) the card is not that bad, its just a bit hard to use and you have to expect almost nothing from it, if they use a weapon removal... it's a shame but it's not that bad, also it makes a good 3 mana combo with the hero power to give rush to all your minions, i don't know, i liked it :P
@scottdevnull5778
@scottdevnull5778 5 жыл бұрын
did the champion for warrior see much play ? I could of sworn it was seen as a powerful value card but I've never seen it
@TheDragonLord12341
@TheDragonLord12341 5 жыл бұрын
Because he is 4 mana and the good dragon warrior deck was odd dragonquest warrior
@warptens5652
@warptens5652 5 жыл бұрын
yes it's played in rush warrior and it's good there check hs replay
@JustChadYT
@JustChadYT 5 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the data for this?
@willcozine1581
@willcozine1581 5 жыл бұрын
Kinda proud of myself because I liked moshogg from the start
@willcozine1581
@willcozine1581 5 жыл бұрын
I really wanted serrated tooth to be good tho. Very wrong about that
@chrisjason7607
@chrisjason7607 5 жыл бұрын
True, one look and you can tell that it was printed for priest but so many were amazed
@gregmattessich4733
@gregmattessich4733 5 жыл бұрын
Spirit of the frog was run in Aggro overload shaman quite a lot how was it not good
@pierrotnasse
@pierrotnasse 5 жыл бұрын
I think the spirits and undatakah are still to find a more potent synergy in standard - more likely to happen with the adventure and one expansion or two - and might be too soon to say it
@Gradamit
@Gradamit 5 жыл бұрын
He's how people rate cards they think of the best case scenario then the worst case scenario and what ever the most likely will happen that's the rating they'll give
@musicforu5819
@musicforu5819 5 жыл бұрын
Shaman spirit is actually really strong in wild agro spell overload shaman. Being able to draw 5 cards per round on agro deck that has roughly 24 face damage in spells alone is kinda a big deal (it can go higher due to discover factor too)
@warptens5652
@warptens5652 5 жыл бұрын
It's actually not very strong in anything, it's never in the top half of the cards (HS replay, sort by drawn winrate)
@jamesrobsonza7752
@jamesrobsonza7752 5 жыл бұрын
I do believe that Spirit of the Frog is a good card, its just that decks that revolve around burn rely so heavily on it they fall flat without it and decks that tech it in dont have enough spells to make it worth
@nathand842
@nathand842 5 жыл бұрын
Amani Warbear?
@GreekMorpheous
@GreekMorpheous 5 жыл бұрын
Dah undertaker is an interesting card, it’s power swinging wildly from broken to useless depending on the game.
@kassandramartin3016
@kassandramartin3016 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with waiting on Da Undatakah. I think it's a really strong card that could be really good given the right support.
@Rasul_583
@Rasul_583 5 жыл бұрын
I saw someone on the hearthstone subreddit bet 1000$ that pirate rouge would be tier 1 on lol (it wasnt and he donated it to charity). I had also seen other people also think that pirate rouge or even rouge would be good and some people crafted a golden hooktusk
@warptens5652
@warptens5652 5 жыл бұрын
hooktusk is extremely good pirate rogue and even rogue are both above 50% winrate, with the good lists consistently going around 57%
@icymcspicy9511
@icymcspicy9511 5 жыл бұрын
bloodclaw is good in pirate paladin though. Ive hit legend with the deck and ended up climbing high with it as well
@leobastian_
@leobastian_ 5 жыл бұрын
Pirate Paladin in Standard?
@warptens5652
@warptens5652 5 жыл бұрын
it's not really about pirates, more about sharkfin fan there's a 54%winrate list on hs replay right now
@Jonius
@Jonius 5 жыл бұрын
Bloodclaw is not bad for heal paladin synergy, why the heck would it ever go in Odd Paladin?
@TheDragonLord12341
@TheDragonLord12341 5 жыл бұрын
Cuz 1mana 2/2 weapon is technically insane?
@Jonius
@Jonius 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheDragonLord12341 However Odd Paladin's aim is to have lots of small minions on board. Bloodclaw doesn't do much to achieve that.
@TheDragonLord12341
@TheDragonLord12341 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jonius thats why I said Technically
@DiabolicalImperfectionist
@DiabolicalImperfectionist 5 жыл бұрын
Both druid and Shudderwock got nerfed before Da Undertaka could really be crazy imo.
@TheDragonLord12341
@TheDragonLord12341 5 жыл бұрын
He will probably shine in deathrattle rogue after rotation
@meris8486
@meris8486 5 жыл бұрын
I think Serrated Tooth might be used once more cards that synergize with rush are printed
@JackSmith331
@JackSmith331 5 жыл бұрын
Saronite Taskmaster, anyone? I definitely thought it'd see a lot more play, especially in (odd) aggro decks lol
@oday2130
@oday2130 5 жыл бұрын
هل يمكنك اضافة الترجمة العربية
@Petrico94
@Petrico94 5 жыл бұрын
Really just want to comment on those new Year of the Dragon changes. But absolutely, videos and scripting take time. Rastakhan has been a fun expansion, I honestly got a lot of fun out of a Priest Zombie deck. Wish Druid went somewhere but then they got some heft nerfs, Hunter did pretty well early on and OTKO Paladin was more of a thing.
@ArmorFrogEntertainment
@ArmorFrogEntertainment 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone thought Baited Arrow would suck. Then it turned out pretty good.
@ICA_Ghost
@ICA_Ghost 5 жыл бұрын
how does hakkar fit in this list? it was rated SLIGHTLY better than it is... nothing you would mention in a video like this
@Begeru
@Begeru 5 жыл бұрын
Trump thought Moshogg Enforcer would be great with Master Oakheart. Everyone gives him crap for bad calls, but he's one of the only streamers to get that right. Also I'm blown away that anyone seriously thought the Spirit of the Lynx was going to be good.
@benwendt8430
@benwendt8430 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot treespeaker! ....kinda. It was relevant briefly there
@Polar007
@Polar007 5 жыл бұрын
I think sulthraze was pretty underated... but maybe it’s my point of view. War isn’t that much played but every non odd one use this card
@tonyVBergeron
@tonyVBergeron 5 жыл бұрын
Im playin serrated tooth since day 1 and let me tell you that you are wrong penniless. Its very good.
@adriandurlej9266
@adriandurlej9266 5 жыл бұрын
you can't argue with this logic tho. Maybe you were lucky to pull it off in most circumstances but for me it always flopped going against anything that wasn't aggro. He is underestimating the fact that u can break it at anytime with hero power which does make it alot more playable.
@tonyVBergeron
@tonyVBergeron 5 жыл бұрын
@@adriandurlej9266 ive played it in a pirate tempo deck . serrated tooth is good but not by itself true . you need to play the 3 cost draw 2 pirate combo a weapon . but i found that these 2 cards together shines.
@felipeluz5035
@felipeluz5035 5 жыл бұрын
If the Mage Spirit was cost 3 (odd) I think Baku would actually make it see play. xD
@TheWoodcookie
@TheWoodcookie 5 жыл бұрын
5. I thought this was a good card but only like 3/5. Priest really made it 4.idk meme card I figured 3. Didn't like since you had to run only beasts. 2.i was way off thought this would be amazing lol 1. Forgot that existed
@StrangerX9
@StrangerX9 5 жыл бұрын
All spirit cards should have been totems, this way it opens it up for Shaman to have a totem themed deck and cards that could discover a totem or summon a random totem.
@matthewmazzatto8003
@matthewmazzatto8003 5 жыл бұрын
We also got a neutral totem in Rastakhan's Rumble (Serpent Ward), so introducing more totem synergy wouldn't have been a bad idea.
@splatmaster1903
@splatmaster1903 5 жыл бұрын
Your still the best hearthstone KZbinr =)
@GoddamitJmie
@GoddamitJmie 5 жыл бұрын
You miss a very important card that peole under rated highly there bud? Yes you did , MASTERS CALL , how'd you miss that ? Everyone said itll never work in any hunter deck , and here we are , in hunterstone caused by masterscall and masterscall alone , the beast hunter deck literally does not work without it
@Roxanneredpanda
@Roxanneredpanda 5 жыл бұрын
I crafted undertakah and dusted it today ;~;
@warptens5652
@warptens5652 5 жыл бұрын
No, spirit of the shark isn't working, it's the worst card of any deck it's included in
@jeromefournier9667
@jeromefournier9667 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man, if a card steals cards from opposing classes or synergises with stolen cards... then i rate them top tier (In fun!)
@danielcharland1374
@danielcharland1374 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know about the spirits being useless. I get creamed by priest decks using Spirit of the Dead all the time. Also, I'm of the view that there is no worthless card, simply synergies that either have yet to be discovered with the current cards, or will become available in an expatiation or two. That's one of the reasons I love wild. So many more useful cards because of so many possible synergies.
@nohbody987
@nohbody987 5 жыл бұрын
Im said the spirits didn't get a time to shine
@peshomighty5051
@peshomighty5051 5 жыл бұрын
Imortal prilate and da undertakah
@Athanatov
@Athanatov 5 жыл бұрын
That's what happens if you go by Hearthpwn ratings lol.
@meris8486
@meris8486 5 жыл бұрын
Masters Call was the card that surprised me the most because it near singlehandedly made Midrange hunter go from Good to Top Tier
@chrisjason7607
@chrisjason7607 5 жыл бұрын
Until they dispose of shiny finder in both formats rouge doesn’t deserve any good weapons
@Spironic
@Spironic 5 жыл бұрын
People thought Serrated Tooth would be good? Seriously? It's so obviously bad it hurts.
@kiran6270
@kiran6270 5 жыл бұрын
Mah baby hakkar is gonna be bad now that there isn't naturalize anymore D:
@TheDragonLord12341
@TheDragonLord12341 5 жыл бұрын
Hakkar was going to be bad anyway sonce togwaggle rotated Naturalize hall just instakills Mecha'thun druid wich I'm forever gratefull for Fuck that deck
@chrisjason7607
@chrisjason7607 5 жыл бұрын
...spirit of the dead is a wonderful card, and I will not hear this blasphemy
@leonardopain
@leonardopain 5 жыл бұрын
I have been noticing lately you're voice is cracking more than in previous videos, anything okay?
@roberthays2656
@roberthays2656 5 жыл бұрын
Rating new cards is stupid. New sets can change what is viable with older sets.
@shivendrakumaresadeva7666
@shivendrakumaresadeva7666 5 жыл бұрын
Warrduid loti
@carthagegaming5545
@carthagegaming5545 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm... I feel like hireek and bwonsomdi are pretty overrated
@sephiroth7655
@sephiroth7655 5 жыл бұрын
Likkem was pretty overrated imho
@michaelkim753
@michaelkim753 5 жыл бұрын
4th? cool
@yarigaso
@yarigaso 5 жыл бұрын
Frist
@yarigaso
@yarigaso 5 жыл бұрын
yay lol
@richtorum5136
@richtorum5136 5 жыл бұрын
No one cares
@yarigaso
@yarigaso 5 жыл бұрын
Well look at this, it's Mr. Obvious!
@williammcnierney1381
@williammcnierney1381 5 жыл бұрын
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