Top 5 reasons the TW200 might not be for you

[@prw7016]

Just bought two of these. One for my son, who is green as hell and one for myself. I've been riding street and off road for fifty years and we love out TW's so far.

[@hurt1704]

You all are getting ready to make some of the best memories. That’s an Awesome dad! I have many more videos coming so feel free to subscribe. Thanks for watching

[@akmankalash]

My 13 year old loves it and he has a honda grom.

[@BillySBC]

Try dropping the rear sprocket from 50 teeth to 44 teeth and it will improve the all-around use of the bike while not losing much of the 1st gear pull.

[@MuktiLuv]

@@BillySBC 47.... even 45 makes no sense, 47 will even go faster than 45, by 1-2kph but still, and better acceleration.

[@gungadingo]

I picked up my 2016 for 3,000 with 63 miles on it last year. I have added a Clark 4+ gallon tank, two inch Rox bar risers, heated grips, 15 tooth counter shaft sprocket, led headlight, IMS foot pegs, LiFePo battery, rear rack, and bark busters with hand guards. I’ve seen an indicated 80 while in a full tucked in crouch. I’m really enjoying tooling around town as well as trails and forest roads. I feel like I got a great little bike at a great price.

[@hurt1704]

Yeah you stole that bike. That’s the barn find everyone wants

[@thegutterpunk00]

Just curious, Earl, if you don’t mind me asking, how tall are you and how much do you weigh (just ball park)? I’m 6’2 ~260 and I’m worried about top speed. I don’t have plans for highway riding, probably just ~55 mph back roads, but of course everybody wants to go 10 over and I definitely don’t want to get run over because of that, haha. And I agree, you got an absolute steal on that one. I see mostly stock, mid ‘00 bikes with 5-10k+ miles going for damn near MSRP in my neck of the woods.

[@MuktiLuv]

got mine for 800$, a TW225... im in thailand though, lol. _

[@HappyHermitt]

As fast as they're sold and what people are paying for used, I'd say they're effin awesome.

[@hurt1704]

I agree 100%! Check out my other videos and I say the exact same thing. Thanks for watching!

[@Rene-up1dl]

Try buying a new klx300 in the west. 👎

[@CD-hc5ds]

All true! Im 6¹ 230lbs & still have a blast on my 2012. Ill be investing in the Seat Concepts "tall seat" & Pro Cycles upgraded springs (not HD) larger foot pegs where a must! I can throw a few bucks into it, i picked it up for 2K.

[@hurt1704]

You definitely got into it cheap! I just can’t imagine more fun you could have for 2k

[@Rene-up1dl]

Wow. Score.

[@LarryeWhite61]

I'm lookin to get a TW200 strictly for commuting of less than a 12-mile distance at max 45mph.

[@hurt1704]

It’s perfect for you then! Buy and don’t look back. Thanks for checking out the video and feel free to check out my other videos

[@BillySBC]

Drop the rear sprocket from 50 teeth to 44 teeth and it will make it far more streetable for you while still being a great offroad trail bike. Also ditch the plain drive chain and install an O-Ring or X-Ring chain, the stock chain is basically an un-lubed bicycle chain.

[@pezpengy9308]

its my first bike. im 6'3" and 275 pounds. after break in my little puttputt will drag my butt up a long hill at 55. i did go down a few teeth on the rear sprocket. the only performance upgrade was an air cleaner that im pretty sure doesnt do anything. im at 600' on an island so its not in the mountains.

[@hikeNbikeCK]

Thanks for this video. Like you, I bought my ‘23 sight unseen and had to do some searching. I’m only 5’2” and just got my license in July. I can’t have both feet flat on the ground but I still feel comfortable stopping. I mostly commute in mid size city to work less than 12 miles total. There are some trails I plan to hit next year. I rode a Honda 50 then 125 as a kid and loved it. I was looking for something similar and found it for my first bike as an adult (in my 40’s). I couldn’t be happier with the TDubs.

[@hurt1704]

Of course! I’m glad you’re enjoying your TDub. How many miles have you managed to put on your 23 so far? Mine just rolled over 200. Feel free to check out my other videos and subscribe if you like tdub content. Thanks for watching

[@hikeNbikeCK]

@@hurt1704 I’m @ 192 miles. 😊 I have checked out some of your other videos and subscribed. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

[@hikeNbikeCK]

@Linda Hebert thank you

[@hurt1704]

I hit 245 on mine today. Love just putting around on it. So enjoyable

[@hurt1704]

You bought the closest bike to a tdub. XT250 is an excellent choice as well! Enjoy

[@FreddyFunderbunz]

The most important part, they hold their resale value, for when u get tired of going 27mph 😂

[@hurt1704]

Haha they definitely do hold their resale forsure. Honestly the top speed hasn’t bothered me, but I can see why it would some. Definitely not a great highway machine

[@caseyjames7379]

Just picked one up , 6ft 225lb and the bike fits me great , could use a little taller bars but ride it stock comfortably.

[@hurt1704]

Great to hear! Super comfortable little trails machines once you get them dialed in to your liking. Thanks for watching

[@Rene-up1dl]

Bar risers

[@MuktiLuv]

bar riser (under the handlebar)... 1cm is perfect, 1.5cm is too much for me... stock is nonsense i agree... play w the gearing too, rear 47t or front 15t should be good for you. _

[@JacobAnawalt]

Great review! It's a farm bike, not a dirt bike. Not a sporty adventure bike. It's outclassed by most dual-sport bikes. But it's a fun little put-put that will put-put up many things.

[@hurt1704]

I completely agree! It’s a great motorcycle for someone wanting this style of motorcycle. Thanks for watching

[@collinmc90]

yup sometimes I wish it had that 6th gear and could go 60 or 65 all day but honestly she keeps me humble. I ride alone off road a lot and this bike keeps me out of trouble haha. You aren't gonna be flying up steep hills and jumping stuff. You aren't gonna go 35 down single track lol but it will get you just about anywhere, only had a couple hills I couldnt do cause it's so hard to keep momentum on the TW. second gear is just a little too tall and first is a little too short for really steep, loose sand and rocky hills BUT if you can maintain traction first gear will climb a damn tree.

[@hurt1704]

Yep exactly. It keeps me out of trouble and out of the hospital. It’s a lot of fun overall just to crawl down the trails though. Thanks for watching and feel free to stick around check out my other videos

[@PanzerRatten]

I don't know if I'd agree about the hills...my TW just eats hills like they're nothing. Stand on the pegs and keep your weight forward and it'll take on insane dirt inclines, so long as they aren't muddy or slick.

[@MuktiLuv]

put 6th gear, theres a kit for it... ;-) _

[@redbilly5972]

Thanks for the vid. I am torn between the Kawasaki KLX230 OR The T-Dub fortunately I don't have the money right now.

[@hurt1704]

Well I’d definitely go with the TW over the klx230. However, the klx 300 would be nice. It just depends on your needs. Keep in mind the TW will have much better resale value in case you want to turn it in a few years.

[@themadscientest]

If I ever get an off-road capable motorcycle I'm getting a TW200, it can handle just about anything from paved roads to none at all.

[@hurt1704]

Yep. Might not be the best looking or fastest bike, but it’s a beast in the trails and will never let you down. Thanks for watching

[@themadscientest]

@@hurt1704 From what I've figured out, "fast" just means less fun especially if it will mostly be used on public roads.

[@hurt1704]

@@themadscientest yep I have owned everything from dirt bikes, crotch rockets, Harley’s etc and I love this bike. I just enjoy putting around on it

[@themadscientest]

@@hurt1704 Same thing with cars, currently trying to find a "slow car" that has good handling and a stick and has a roomy interior for hauling up to 4 and grocery getting.

[@hurt1704]

@@themadscientest getting hard to find a simple manual anything anymore that isn’t loaded down with all the technology crap. I tried to order a Tacoma last year with a manual and rubber floors and it couldn’t be done.

[@PineyRider]

It's simply a 2 wheeled tractor. If you're an adrenaline junky, this bike will sedate you. You ride this bike listening to The Grateful Dead, John Denver, James Taylor, maybe a little Jimmy Buffet if you're feeling rowdy🤣! I'm 5'10" ish and 300 lbs and finally with a Seat Concepts seat am very comfortable on it for hours at a time.

[@hurt1704]

Lol yep exactly. It’s a beast. Glad the seat concepts seat is working out for you! I’d like to have one myself

[@PineyRider]

@@hurt1704 I've got a few mods on mine and the seat is the one I would miss the most. I made a few half-assed videos if you want to see. I have 5 motorcycles and though this is not the most expensive, I do think it's the one I enjoy most.

[@jmason61]

Excellent & THX for the 2nd review... here's a big question - for putting around in the suburbs (& maybe hitting a dirt trail a bit) do you like other small bikes that are available & not crazy trendy = I can actually find one to buy?

[@hurt1704]

The yamaha xt250 would make an awesome bike. That would probably be my next choice that was similar to a TW. I guess you could also steer more towards a Honda trail 125? Not sure how small you are considering going cc wise. Thanks for watching!

[@Imightberiding]

Forgive me for butting in. Hurt 1's advice above is very good on the xt250 but I suspect the Honda Trail might fall short of your street/commuting expectations & wouldn't really suit your needs or application. A Honda Cub 125 although not a trail bike can handle some off-road situations & is far more comfortable & capable on the street. The Honda Trail is a very specific, slow but excellent off-road trail bike for a particular need (ie: hunting or slow adventures off-road, farm work, or camping but not very good for the street). I would suggest after the Yamaha xt250 (if you can't find it) a Kawasaki KLX250 or 300 is an excellent choice. Or maybe for a bit more $, a Honda CRF250L or CRF300L Rally. You could even get a 125cc, 155cc or 300cc Scooter if you're secure enough in your manhood. Yamaha Yuma/BWS 125, Yamaha SMAX 155, Yamaha XMAX 300, Honda PCX 150/155/160, Honda ADV 150/155, Honda ADV 350 (330cc) or Vespa 155, 200, 250 or 300 Scooter & have heaps of fun on one of these. Believe it or not, the Yamaha BWS/Yuma 125cc & the Honda ADV 150/155cc or 350cc (actually 330cc) scooters are actually made & much more suited for mild off-road riding as well as the street. The other options are more suited for the street or perhaps relatively smooth gravel or dirt roads. I love my Vespas though. They pretty much go anywhere. Check some videos on KZbin about dudes riding around the world on Vespas or Honda Cubs. Good luck in your search. This is from an old dude who has owned almost all the above bikes (except the KLX300, CRF300L Rally or Honda ADV 350) & countless others over the past 45 yrs. The TW200 is a fantastic bike (equally great for around town or on the trails) & hard to beat if you're not concerned with going real fast (50-55 MPH realistically) but you can't go wrong with any of the smaller 250cc or 300cc Yamaha, Kawasaki or Honda Enduros/Dual Sports. Cheers.

[@jmason61]

@@Imightberiding excellent info & thx... still looking more towards the dual sport design vs the others Cheers back to you

[@Imightberiding]

@@jmason61 I'm glad you saw my comment. Didn't mean to take over the conversation. Just wanted to offer you some more options & advice from an old rider with miles & years of experience. Have at it dude. Good choice. A dual sport can do pretty much anything on & off road & bring a big smile to your face & lower stress levels. The little 125's are heaps of fun but it won't be long before you'll be wanting a little more grunt, speed & capability. Yamaha, Kawasaki or Honda; you can't go wrong with the welterweight 250's or 300's. They are a perfect balance between the lightweight 125's & the middle weight 450-650's. You will find that a 250-300 will bring you years of use & even as an experienced rider, you won't grow out of them. Hurt 1 uploaded a good & useful video along with some good observations & advice. Whatever you choose, ride safe & have fun! *Edit: Look for & consider a good used bike in decent condition as an option. Properly maintained, 50 000 or more miles is nothing on these engines & bikes if they are not molested or abused. Refrain from performance mods if you can. At least for the first couple years. The engineers for these manufacturers know what they're doing & your bike will hold its resale value far more if it isn't modded. Also, don't be afraid of carburetors. Motor cycles are not like cars & you will most certainly not even notice any difference in performance or reliability if it isn't fuel injected. Cheers.

[@MuktiLuv]

xt250 is a good advise, but i would wait for a Tdub, that bike is just too nice, you can mod it too, or even put an xt250 motor in it directly. get an older model too, it's the same bike since 1987, carbu is still better than EFI, and discs are overratted in my opinion. those bikes are tanks, i literally crashed with a car, destroyed his left side while the Tdub didnt had a scratch and didnt even stop... lol import if you can, im in thailand and there's literally 20 for sale around-ish my house. _

[@2old4allthis]

Good vid. Just curious -do you know of an electric bike available that’s similar in configuration, especially the rear wheel, to the TW 200?

[@hurt1704]

I actually just watched one a while back. It looks very similar, fat tires, chain driven etc, but electric. No experience with it though. Volcon Grunt is what it’s called. Here is the video I watched and they compare it to a TW. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2PQd2R3lphnr6M

[@wasappeningvato]

Those are 5 reasons why I want it. 😂😍

[@hurt1704]

Exactly! 😂

[@BillySBC]

Drop the rear sprocket from 50 teeth to 44 teeth and it will be more streetable without losing much of the 1st gear pull for offroad.

[@hurt1704]

That’s what I have been reading. I think I’m going to try the 47 tooth first and just toy with it. I do plan on regearing though for improved highway use. Unfortunately, we have a lot of 55mph highways around here. Thanks for watching and stick around for more content

[@BillySBC]

@@hurt1704 Yeah the 44 tooth is what I did to mine and it's really made it more streetable and I didn't notice much change offroad. I also have a DR650 for highway use but I love the little TW I have as well. Good luck and many happy adventures with yours.

[@JacobAnawalt]

I've considered it, but I often go on steep single-track where I wish I had a lower gear so I could go easier on the clutch and feel safer with a slower low end. If I was trying to commute on the regular maybe I'd be more serious, but honestly the current gearing can't pull highway speeds up the pass I have to traverse, a 44 would be worse. For now I'll keep dealing with stock.

[@MuktiLuv]

@@hurt1704 or 15t front... same ratio.... 5$ on aliex ;-)...+stock chain still fit.

[@mkshffr4936]

1. You like complexity. 2. You are in a hurry. 3. You need to carry 1000# of gear 4. You are really tall. 5. You live for electronic do dads.

[@eighthnotch_]

What if none of those apply to me, except #4? I’m 6’5”/200lbs 🥹

[@slaverescuehound3440]

@@eighthnotch_you’ll be fine just put some risers on it

[@ronjohnson7699]

I want to do the mountain goat mod on the rear tire. I really love this bike . Plus it’s my first street legal bike .

[@mkshffr4936]

Short and chunky like me.... Perfect. 😆

[@hurt1704]

Haha I mean, she is short and chunky and there is nothing wrong with that! Thanks for watching and feel free to stick around. More content is coming

[@JamminB100]

Old guy here. I wish they made a 300cc version of this with a 6 speed. I'd buy it in a minute. I'm 6'2" and 280. I dont think 200cc will cut it lol.

[@hurt1704]

Me and you both! A 300 would literally be perfect in every way. I’d buy with you lol

[@akustaka]

@@hurt1704 In theory yeah, a 300 would be great, but you also have to remember that if they attempt to update the platform then they need to meet or exceed todays strict emissions, that alone would slash that 300cc back down to 200 if not worse since they will have to choke the hell out of the bike with the exhaust system AND lean the (hopefully) new fuel injection system to keep it legal. The only reason the bike is still around is cause its the only real farm bike left, Yamaha literally controls the entire market for that sector.

[@hurt1704]

@@akustaka oh I know the reasoning. They could do it though with fuel injection and a little elbow grease. It would still be a bad machine

[@hurt1704]

Also, i just read your other comment, if you don’t like my videos, you’re more than welcome to not watch. I’m not a full time KZbinr, get paid nothing and threw up a few videos to help people out. Nothing more

[@akustaka]

@@hurt1704 Me?

[@franmitch3589]

Got a Himalayan "little" more power, fuel injection, more range per tank, lots of tie down areas, more tire options but regardless it's a bastard bike not many like & also ain't for everyone

[@hurt1704]

Hey I’m cool with anything on two wheels that will go anywhere. Not into motocross bikes though. Would mind picking up a rokon to go with the tw

[@keithsmith7278]

Its the Marsh tacky of motorcycles..love mine

[@hurt1704]

If definitely is! I love mine as well! Thanks for watching and feel free to subscribe. More content on the way

[@nikk_nobody]

Best bike I ever had..by far..who needs a bike that is built for jumping 65 ft.that you can't touch your feet on the ground when your overlooking your pot crop..looser big L

[@hurt1704]

Agreed. Overall it’s awesome and it puts a smile on my face everytime I ride it! Thanks for watching

[@ablebaker1275]

I believe this is an ATC… All Terrain Cycle. Never thought of this as a Dual Purpose, and especially not a Motocross bike…

[@hurt1704]

Ohh I agree. I just see people buying it expecting things out of the machine that it’s made to do.

[@akmankalash]

Ive literally never have seen one b4 i bought it.

[@hurt1704]

Me either. Haha I mention how rare they are in another video and how people stare at it when I’m out riding it. Thanks for the sub and taking the time to watch!

[@akmankalash]

@@hurt1704 me too the Harley guys say it reminds them of the big cat.

[@hurt1704]

It really does in many ways. Definitely neat machines! Love me a nice ak. Digging your name

[@akmankalash]

@@hurt1704 I referenced you in my new video welcome to the family

[@nikk_nobody]

Oh I didn't watch the whole thing I quit watching after the second no good..I'm older had Hogs Hondas kawies dirt street 2 stroke 4 stroke nothing more practical than the tw on earth..you can not mess with perfection..they built the perfect bike when they built the tw..for trails farms and small towns..I basically agree with what you said but found your lack of excitement for my favorite bike on earth a bit annoying..I did subscribe cuz it's about tws

[@hurt1704]

Appreciate the feedback. Just had to keep it honest for viewers because it’s not All good like many rave about. Overal it’s good, but not for everyone

[@nikk_nobody]

@@hurt1704 you should not argue with the ravers as I am one cuz the reason we rave is cuz there is no bike better for us..the practical people.. most bike enthusiasts have bikes that can jump 65ft.or go 300km an hour.. I will guess about .001% of the enthusiasts have the ability to perform at 10% of there bikes abilities.. I feel you picked on "us" ravers but will acknowledge your 1 point

[@hurt1704]

@@nikk_nobody ohh no, I have another video raving on the bike. This video was just why it might not be for certain people.

[@MuktiLuv]

there's a reason why there's a TW forum with 22,000 peoples talking Tdubs all the time... best bike ever made i completely agree... _

[@ranstan814]

NICE

[@bondjames652]

I don't go on the highway with mine. For good reason...

[@MuktiLuv]

great, now make a video "Top 250 reasons the TW200 might be for you" ;-) 200cc - mod it, 250cc, wiseco piston, higher compression, will reach 140kph, fit a tubo even if you want. nobody should need or want ABS size... im 6'2"... could be smaller. suspension... thats a dual sport, nobody think it's cross, or mod it. im in thailand, saw 9 peoples on one... my take: best all-round bike ever made, didnt change since 1987 for a reason. (by the way if you rode that bike with the ridiculous 14/50T stock gearing, change that... thats a different bike) _

[@graynotescartridgebox]

It’s probably not for me.

[@hurt1704]

Nonsense. You need one lol

[@graynotescartridgebox]

@@hurt1704 😂

[@jerryhoward7910]

Rode one this past weekend. Not impressed at all …….total slug….

[@hurt1704]

Haha yep. They are definitely far from fast. I would encourage anyone to ride before buying

[@lawrencefranck9417]

That’s the point of the tw

[@MuktiLuv]

and what do you ride normally if i might ask..? unless you're an hayabusa guy, yours might have been broken or set like garbage... not a speed monster sure, but it still punches. _

[@lawrencefranck9417]

It’s glorified mini bike.