The one thing I hate about it is that you have one and I don’t.
@thatseventiesman38653 жыл бұрын
He does sound a bit spoiled doesn't he? Showing 3 of his quite new looking bikes to us ;)
@ptrisonic3 жыл бұрын
@@thatseventiesman3865 Yeah but his main drive is a 2CV... I'm more jealous of his garage - in mine I have three lawnmowers and my wife's car. Best, Pete.
@jagdevone3 жыл бұрын
True
@jauxed3 жыл бұрын
Same here...lols.
@jonpram17373 жыл бұрын
I think the person who told him to add a dab of grease to his break pads was also feeling a bit jealous 🤣
@jh52574 жыл бұрын
Everyone should come up with a top 5 list of pros and cons just to maintain our objectivity. Thanks for sharing yours.
@tbutterworth16924 жыл бұрын
The way I see it, the whole DRL indicator light arrangement, that seems to get mentioned mention a good deal, makes perfect logical sense, because when it's dark enough to use the headlight, you don't want an indicator light shining in your face affecting your night vision. When it daytime, and you have the DRL on, it does least harm. Just an alternative perspective to consider.
@laurieberg28804 жыл бұрын
I’m going to go ride my faulty Triumph. The forecast is for 97% fewer texting drivers trying to kill me.
@RichDunn4 жыл бұрын
I agree re: DRL. Brake really hard to get the abs to cut in on the front and that will probably clear the brake pad dust. If not, a dob of copper slip on the back of the pads at the next service will sort that.
@daveyblakeney4 жыл бұрын
The front brake's glazed fella, do a couple of 'heavy' stops using the front brake to break the glaze and the squeak will go
@mickcresswell10314 жыл бұрын
Dave Blakeney agree - it works on mine!
@wandering_armadillo4 жыл бұрын
@@mickcresswell1031 Yup, squeak gone here also!
@droptuned834 жыл бұрын
Mine doesn't squeek ?
@bangladanglawtf4 жыл бұрын
nope. tried that with mine a million times, does not work. squeaked from day one. but now the brake disc seems to be warped as a bonus. fun.
@bjoernrider61644 жыл бұрын
Yeap, had the same issue. It may happen during tough braking when it's cold and the pads are cold or in the rain. In case of a real issue, talking out the pads and a piece of sandpaper help.
@slakk50934 жыл бұрын
That petrol gauge winge is a bit hilarious honestly. Why does it matter how quickly it goes up! You know there's a full tank of petrol, you just filled it up 😆
@John900C4 жыл бұрын
OCD works in mysterious ways.
@Granto-ni9qw4 жыл бұрын
Hate dige fuel gauge in block units
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
It’s a minor gripe but it just annoys me when it doesn’t need to happen....
@terrymoore42084 жыл бұрын
It's a good job he's not got the 1992 trident the fuel light came on after quarter of a mile on a 25 LTE tank
@karlosh92864 жыл бұрын
See now I thought exactly the same. After visiting the petrol station, you know it's full up (I never usually do a partial fill up on any vehicle, car or bike ) BUT during lockdown, well we haven't been allowed to make non essential journeys, therefore petrol has been left sitting in my Speed Twin. The current E5 (5% ethanol) petrol can go off quite quick and gum things up. Yes I can use fuel stabiliser, which I had done, but it had been so long I thought best to syphon off the fuel into a jerry can, and put it in the car which at least does a few "essential" journeys. Now with a fuel gauge that has the speed of a sloth on sedative drugs, I really don't know how much is in the tank. I know it's not a lot, but how much ? The gauge just keeps showing much more than I know is really in the tank. My Street Triple suffers from exactly the same issue !
@malek50034 жыл бұрын
Can certainly understand your frustration with the fuel cap situation, would bug me firstly that It’s not one of those Hinge cap style ones and secondly that you have to screw it round 5 times🤣They might as well have just given you a screw driver.
@johnstonstewart22984 жыл бұрын
Agreed, the indicators are flimsy. Half of one of mine has disappeared ,put a bit of coppaslip on the back of the pads. It's what they will do at the dealership so why not do it yourself, it works.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
I daren't fiddle with my brakes....
@John-qq4yr4 жыл бұрын
The brake reservoir is not only cheap looking, it looks like it obscures some of the speedo.
@terrymoore42084 жыл бұрын
Change the handle bars
@TreyyDaMenaceFan4 жыл бұрын
anyone know why sometimes they chose to have the reservoir in a round container with a cap on top and sometimes in an, often rectangular, closed black container? Personally since i see the round container on performance machines it makes me associate the 'cheaper, looking reservoir with faster bikes.
@marcelpursche53394 жыл бұрын
sam The smaller round ones are most of the times external reservoirs for radial brake pumps. The rectangular ones are builtin on regular brake pumps. The radial brake pumps are supposed to have a better brake feel. Haven’t tried one myself yet.
@DanTube20104 жыл бұрын
@@TreyyDaMenaceFan Good question! I'm looking at a Brembo plastic reservoir that costs £50. There must be a good reason why track bikes have these so called cheap reservoirs. All I can think of is that they're lightweight, transparent so the fluid can be easily seen, easy to open (fluid has to be changed between races), and simple with few points of failure.
@peterhird35424 жыл бұрын
Hi TMF, I could live with most of these dislikes but the front brakes squealing would drive me mad. My GSXS did it for a while and every time I stopped it was like finger nails down a blackboard. I couldn’t stand it. The indicators easily snapping off would also aggravate me. It would be one of those things that you realise could happen and you’ve got it in mind when you’re riding. Then one fine day you stop, dismount and clip the indicator...break it...then swear and curse your way to get your coffee. Should be mounted near the license plate in my humble opinion. Thanks for putting out videos during this covid crap...always good to see you 👍. Cheers.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Peter - to be honest the brake squeal isn’t thaaaat bad, just an annoyance when it happens....
@XsXTrills3 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2012 Street Triple in black and gold because I loved your bike, Flyer. Now I'm looking at Speed Twins, and you've sold me on yet another Triumph
@TheMissendenFlyer3 жыл бұрын
I actually think I prefer my Speed Twin to ride than the Street Triple - though I prefer the looks of the Street….
@EVargasIII Жыл бұрын
Hey mate this might be 2 years late but I have a Thruxton R and you’re not meant to use the key to twist the cap. You twist it once to unlock, then use the finger indents to twist the cap itself to unscrew. Then you screw back on, and the key is a single twist to lock.
@TheMissendenFlyer Жыл бұрын
Indeed….
@stratolestele7611 Жыл бұрын
Haha - I was thinking the same thing. As my wife would say about him, "awww, isn't he cute?!". OTOH, when my does something silly, I say, "you're so pretty!". 🤣
@andrewfletcher95593 жыл бұрын
Andy, just bear in mind that if you've just filled your tank up you don't really need to be looking at your fuel gauge, surely it's better to have something that's more accurate lol
@abouc4 жыл бұрын
In the US, motorcycle headlights are always on by default, and I've never owned a bike that had a switch to turn the lights on. By this logic, it's probable we don't get an option for daytime running lights. This may explain why the daytime running indicator light is reverse to what you'd expect. Otherwise owners in markets that have "always on" headlights would be seeing that green light all the time unless the high beams are on.
@wellyftw4 жыл бұрын
I’ve thought about the daytime running lights issue (I have a Speed Twin) - I think it’s more of a warning that you only have the DRL on rather than full (dipped) headlights on for when you ride at night. If the opposite was the case I think it’d be easy to forget to put the lights on full (dipped) beam.
@holdencaulfied74922 жыл бұрын
What the hell is a dipped headlight?
@gerrycollins2335 Жыл бұрын
@@holdencaulfied7492 Just what it says: the headlamp beam is dipped, not on full (raised) beam. Perhaps we're suffering from translation loss?
@holdencaulfied7492 Жыл бұрын
@@gerrycollins2335 Must be a British term. Go Manchester United!
@tedwitus4 жыл бұрын
after being a serious TMF fan, and becoming a triumph fan-boy, I think I'm leaning toward the Street Scrambler for my first.. I love the T-120 (includes heated grips !! and center-stand !!) and was surprised these two options are either not stock equipment or even available on the Speed Twin. Thanks TMF
@srhintz4 жыл бұрын
I guess we know who scuffs all the saddlebags at the dealership.
@jurgentreue12004 жыл бұрын
I had a squeaky front caliper on my 1990 Moto Guzzi Le Mans. Brembo brakes also. I bought the bike new and tried everything, including lubricating the disc pad backing plate and changing the disc pads. I finally gave up and learnt to live with it. I owned and loved the bike for 11 years.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's isn't a deal breaker for me - a minor annoyance at worst and it doesn't happen all the time....
@falarn4 жыл бұрын
i had the pleasure of riding one of these last year when my bike was being serviced. It was a wet day and my feet kept slipping on the foot rests which put me right off.
@wandering_armadillo4 жыл бұрын
So weird. I rode in the rain yesterday, no issues ..... I suspect it's a foot problem ;)
@Miata8224 жыл бұрын
You're experimenting with a more dynamic filming style. I like it.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Err am I? Great - glad you like it Bill!!!
@Miata8224 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer Faster more spontaneous pace seemed less scripted. Handheld camera movement, pulling back to frame the shot, it has a different look. Thought it was intentional.
@michelelaschet96164 жыл бұрын
You are right in every single point. For the rest, a good bike.
@mark222b4 жыл бұрын
That fuel gauge issue also applies to the street twin. It got me worried the first time I filled up a close to empty tank but now I am used to it.
@resin8n4 жыл бұрын
Regarding your comments on the fuel gauge. I've been riding for over 45 years now and own a number of bikes as well. I've always been in the habit of resetting the trip meter whenever I fill the tank. I'm familiar enough with all my bikes to know when I jump on any one of them, how much range I have left by checking the trip meter prior to heading off. Touch wood, I've yet to be caught out. Cheers for the good views.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I do that too - it's just annoying when there's no need for the fuel gauge to be so sluggish...
@ChipsCooper4 жыл бұрын
Interestingly the squeaky front brakes were the main reason I canceled my order it just shouldn’t happen plus I agree with you about the brake reservoir and fuel cap pretty cheap and nasty for the price you pay for the bike Cheers Chips.
@wandering_armadillo4 жыл бұрын
Yes yes.... you just justify your way out of the purchase of a Speed Twin .... my squeak left after bike was run in. Just leave the Speedie for riders who love torque, handling and shooting the breeze with admirers of modern classics. Owning one is a dream.
@sv650nyc74 жыл бұрын
To remove squealing you apply brake grease on the edges of the caliper pistons, make sure the pads come with metal shims, or change the pads to softer material (the commonly used sintered HH pads are overkill for most riders anyways). Many ways to alleviate squealing brakes for cheap and it can be an issue on any bike. To not buy a bike for that reason seems strange.
@ChipsCooper4 жыл бұрын
Di Korlaet Firstly I own 2 Triumph Motorcycles a 2012 Street Triple R and a 2018 Tiger 800 which are both great bikes plus I also have 3 other bikes which does include a retro as well plus I also ride about 20000km annually so I wasn’t trying to justify not purchasing the bike ,to me when you’re buying a premium brand these sorts of things should not happen and when I started to do a bit of research it seemed to be a problem with the T120 and the Speed Master as well and apparently Triumph didn’t want to know about it when people complained which I thought was pretty ordinary that’s why I didn’t go through with the purchase.
@kingkole024 жыл бұрын
I just looked at one of these at the dealer. Didn’t see a whole lot I wasn’t pleased by. No counting miles anymore? No worrying about power slides in rain? I’m used to old school bikes where nothing is controlled and your hand controlled the ride you want.
@1ridgy3 жыл бұрын
I’m heading to a dealership as soon as possible and buying one of these buggers. Absolutely beautifully machine
@TheMissendenFlyer3 жыл бұрын
They are good - I agree!
@MrG00ny65 Жыл бұрын
Agree with most of your points there. Regarding the clocks though, what I also find annoying is that the odometer and the time cannot be seen together. You have to scroll through to either see the mileage or see the time. There is a small display on both the speedo and the tach so why not separate these two and have the mileage on the speedo and the clock on the tach? I have never had squeeky brakes on my Thruxton though.
@5ebra14 жыл бұрын
I hope Triumph listen to you and sort these things out.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
That would be nice...but I'm not holding my breath!!
@justinrigden65304 жыл бұрын
You right about the lights. In daytime, you can't easily tell what's happening with the lights. That fuel cap would drive me mad too. Triumph had great fuel caps in the 1960s.
@CheapskateMotorsports4 жыл бұрын
The rear end on that bike looks so cool, just wish they thought of a better place to put that license plate.
@virtualinsanity9114 жыл бұрын
The front brakes on my Street Triple RS (2019) squeal as well. Did so from day one and had the mechanic look at it at first service, but no change. Must be a Triumph thing.
@MVFRNinja4 жыл бұрын
Seems to be a Brembo thing, honestly. My Ducati Scrambler's front Brembo squeals and screams during light, normal traffic riding and always has done so. Take a look on any Ducati forum, or hell, even just search for 'Brembo Squeal' on the interwebz and you'll get more than you can care to read. Pretty annoying that "top shelf" brakes sound like crap!
@mattnicholas98424 жыл бұрын
virtualinsanity911 My Street RS is fine, a very fine smear of copper grease on the piston faces should sort it, not sure how you ride but a good workout might help.
@lord.onk994 жыл бұрын
The Speed Twin is my fav of all your bikes, with the little Honda close second. Great chat, keep them coming Andy, be safe.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Ken - you too!
@GadgetMart4 жыл бұрын
I hope Stuart fillingham doesn’t see this 😮
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Why?
@GadgetMart4 жыл бұрын
TheMissendenFlyer haha only joking, just loves his triumphs!
@karlosh92864 жыл бұрын
@@GadgetMart Stuart now seems to be saying Triumph's are overpriced compared to his RE Interceptor. Although I guess he still loves them.
@splodge57144 жыл бұрын
Surely he doesn't watch TMF.
@torqueofthedevil81454 жыл бұрын
splodge 57 he does he was bitching a week or so ago suggesting Andy was out making videos during the lockdown, stupid old fart.
@elegantinfusions Жыл бұрын
I have a speed twin 900 and certainly don’t have any of the issues you are raising, the fuel gauge was the same on the Trident 660,
@glenbreaks54484 жыл бұрын
Same cap on my 16 Thruxton R. I'm 65 with a petrified brain, yet it only took a few fillups to learn how to remove the cap without any fuss. Hint- not by twirling it with the key!
@stevenhill62144 жыл бұрын
The squeaky brakes thing would bother me the most. You may have re-ignited the CoppaSlip argument....yes or no? All i should say is, i have been using it for years (just a tiny smear on the rim of the caliper piston) and it works for me
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Yes I've heard that a lot - will try and get it done next time someone competent goes near the brakes!
@karlosh92864 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer "someone competent goes near the brakes!" is that a Freudian slip ? ROFLMAO :)
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
?? Not sure I follow ??
@karlosh92864 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer If that was to my Freudian slip comment. Well I wondered if you were inferring you're not competent to play with the brakes :-D :-D :-D :-D
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Yes that's exactly what I was saying! (no inference intended, I'm technically incompetent)
@Robert84554 жыл бұрын
I don't have a Triumph (yet) but agree about the fuel cap, break prone indicator, slow fuel gauge & squeaky breaks. Triumph should fix them all. Nice organized garage!
@Youchoob14 жыл бұрын
When it's a 'premium machine'? You believed the salesman selling you that Thailand built thing then I take it? lol!
@edwelld4 жыл бұрын
You need to get out more ;-) My 1200 scrambler has the same style fuel cap - i leave the plastic part unlocked.
@Fireblade9184 жыл бұрын
Good points well made the lights and fuel cap would drive me nuts the rest could be called spoiling the ship for a half penny of tar not what you expect on a premium motorcycle, ride and stay safe everyone.
@russelllocke71804 жыл бұрын
I’m afflicted with the same issue with blinkers, both front & rear, but these are on an old 1994 Kawasaki ZR750 Zephyr. Old style, stick right out there for snapping off type. More so when in the garage and being bumped when squeezing past. Replaced three times. It’s a classic looking motorcycle though, designed like bikes of the 70s. Thanks for more lockdown entertainment. Stay well. 👍🏍😷🇦🇺
@xyic0re7143 жыл бұрын
Great video. One thing I dislike is the 'speed twin' logs plastered on the bike. I know what bike I have, leave me alone.
@andyhollund4934 жыл бұрын
Out of all your dislikes the only one that bothers me is the squeaky front brakes, although it is only slight. I've not broken any indicators though.
@mattnicholas98424 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, it’s very useful to get owner feedback around niggles, no big deal but good to know. My Street Triple RS is undoubtedly the best road bike I’ve owned (and I’ve got a V4 Factory as well), DRL. Disagree, you want the warning light in the daytime, at night you can see the headlights are on. Fuel cap, totally agree that is a bit pants, a proper alloy “Le Mans” cap would be much better, Brake reservoir, yeah I bought both the billet alloy ones for mine are they are much classier, that said nearly all Bikes have the plastic things, even a premium machine has to be built to a price. Fuel gauge, seems very sluggish my Street takes about 100 yds. I think the indicator is the same as mine, it just seems to be unfortunately placed on the twin. It is a real challenge to find fault with modern bikes, they’re all so good now.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
That's very true....I struggled to come up with these...
@ducatimale4 жыл бұрын
A good greasing of the front discs usually keeps that squeaking sound away.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
:0)
@danielleclare29384 жыл бұрын
Fuel cap on my Yamaha Radian is flush mount works great looks cool and does not interfere with a tank bag. Nostalgia is one thing but some stuff is just a no brainer like ABS and modern tires...fuel injection. If it was easy to do back in the day they would have flush mounted the cap methinks...
@sashasimons48264 жыл бұрын
The plastic break reservoir really did my head in when I bought my street triple. Also payed for the metallic but, why, just why, is it not standard on a hight range make?! All these problems are kind of "small" problems that seem to be on all triumph models... I don't understand why they make such excellent bikes but cut corners when it comes to finishing touches
@chevinbarghest84532 жыл бұрын
ps "breaks" is what happens to the rear indicators and "brakes" are what stops you...
@jeffreyporras38394 жыл бұрын
The brake pads are what’s chattering . Check the hold down clips or spray the back of the brake pads with products like Quite Brake from Napa Auto Parts. It’s very common on cars.
@gtrguy17 Жыл бұрын
Agree on the daytime running light. Are you listening Triumph?
@rickdono644 жыл бұрын
Queensland Australia have lifted non essential travel restrictions from 2nd of May, we can go 50km from home so already have my 100k's mapped out!! Stay safe and keep upright all.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Nice lucky you!!
@spetersonmusic4 жыл бұрын
All valid criticisms and as with all things, opinions are subjective. When I buy a bike, I factor in all things I'll be changing (prioritizing over time). I know you do the same. My 2013 Street Triple R had squeaky rear brakes. Pad swap fixed that. You've discussed the lights vs. switches in the UK in the past, I agree with you. Over here in the USA, the daytime running lights up with the low beams by default, so it's not an issue here. The fuel cap, I'd look into unlocking it and leaving it or get a new cap to use under the 'cover'. I swap out those plastic brake reservoirs; never been a fan but that's almost universal on all bikes from the factory. I swap out my rear light for one with integrated turn signals - here in the US the DOT forces manufacturers to use big ugly plastic 'pumpkin' indicators. Drives me buggy. We almost always HAVE to replace the indicators one way or another with LEDs - so for the rear, I prefer integrated versions. Making a bike "your own" is a (sometimes slow) process but that journey is part of the package in my opinion. That hoodie is rather smart looking and I've now ordered one.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Standby for a LOT of female attention Scott!! Al the best - A
@jeffhopkins81314 жыл бұрын
Hate's a bad word to use, 'Annoys Me' much better to use IMO, You're spot on about the light switching, doesn't make sense except to the euro bods , some bikes might not have running lights so it's probably more regulations than common sense, Fuel Cap and Cover, Micky Mouse is an understatement, what's going on with the numberplate number, didn't take you for a numberplate vanity bod.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
That number plate came with the bike, nowt to do with me! - I don't to personalised plates myself (My Mrs wouldn't let me as she reckons only people with "more money than sense" buy them)....shame 'cos there's lots of "TMF" options to choose from!
@jeffhopkins81314 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer Top man thought it wouldn't be you! having said that, TMF 1 would be a lot better than SXE!
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
...yes, again I repeat, nowt to do with me!!!
@peterwharton21034 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with you on the brakes, thought that was just mine, the lights and reservoir. Like you I love the bike bar those minor issues. The usb charger and no we here to easily feed wire is a bit frustrating.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Glad we concur!
@peterwharton21034 жыл бұрын
It was your reviews that convinced me to get a speed twin. I’ve only been riding 6 months and love it. I originally got a tiger 800 but didn’t get on with it. I’m heading to Swindon today for the 500 mile service, although I’ve gone a bit over that. Where can I get a replacement reservoir from which looks better. Your videos are great BTW really useful in the decision making processes.
@pistolpete63214 жыл бұрын
I have some of the same complaints about my T120. While it takes a few miles after fill up to register a full tank at least it has a fuel gauge which my more expensive Aprilia Tuono Factory lacks!! Great video!
@mwsletten4 жыл бұрын
If you're relying on the fuel gauge to tell you when to get fuel you're gonna run out of gas. Use the odometer. Ride 175 miles, stop for gas, ignore the gauge. Problem solved! Nice bike, BTW. I miss my Triumph Tiger. I've got a BMW S1000XR now. I like it too, but it's more like a razor where the Tiger was more like a Bowie knife. You can shave with a Bowie knife, but a razor is a lot comfortable and easier, because it's the perfect precision tool for the job. On the other hand, you can chop a small down tree with a Bowie knife if you have enough time. That's never gonna happen with a razor.
@telbenj4 жыл бұрын
I think the Monza fuel cap is pretty poor it should be opened with the key from the start not the faff of having to unscrew the cap with the key in place, it wouldn't be so bad if you could remove the key. My brakes began to make the noise but then stopped, all good for the last 500 miles anyway. My other gripe is no room under the seat to stow anything. But as you say what a great bike I love mine and it's also a keeper, Cheers Terry
@ian-c.014 жыл бұрын
I hate indicators in general, they always look out of place but the original old flex mounted ones that were fitted to older bikes were far less likely to snap off than any of the after market replacements I've tried. I bought some neat little replacements from a big online parts shop and kept snapping the rear ones by bumping into them when the bike was on the stand and knocking them with my foot when getting on and off ! Replacing broken ones every couple of weeks became very irritating and I never realised just how much abuse indicators get. If I need to get replacements in future I will look for some with flexible mounts or flexible arms because that's what is on my current bike and they have taken a lot of damage and abuse but never broken.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
The thing is these do have flexible arms....just not flexible enough!
@TheRattyBiker4 жыл бұрын
I think they are all reasonable gripes, I think another thing that would annoy me is the fuel cap isn't symmetrical, I see how it would make filling up easier on a side stand but it's also something thats in the corner of you eye all the time
TMF, I agree with your list and am happy that they're rather minor items. I also agree that this is an epic bike and a keeper. It checks more boxes for me than any of my other bikes, past and present. I plan to do the gauge face update as seen in your other videos. Am also converting to the euro-spec directionals and appreciate the warning about their fragility. Keep up the great work!
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Tom - love my Speed Twin, brilliant bike....
@kevinmobile4 жыл бұрын
I see that in (small) aircraft fuel gauges are composed of magnetoresitance level sensors and these are sealed, highly accurate and being outside the fuel are not affected by damaging ethanol. They're more expensive of course than standard floats (the strips on quick-reading BMWs can also be problematic) but it's either that TMF or a dip stick which you will be familiar with in another life!
@karlosh92864 жыл бұрын
When I was on my training to pass my Mod 1 and 2 last year, 2019 ( as a middle aged newbie rider) , I asked the instructor about where the fuel gauge was on a 2006 Honda CB600 . He said "open the fuel cap and look in" . So I guess having fuel gauges now, we're just SO LUCKY ! But the speed the Triumph ones register fuel at is a little bit annoying, although not a major issue.
@rogerwilliams29024 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure I saw a speck of dust on the bench, 🤐. Triumphs arent really my cup of tea, but the one you have is a good looking bike for sure, no wonder they sell so well. Keep safe everyone .
@rumien13834 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, as regards the DLR. makes perfect sense to have it the other way around. 👍🏻
@robertakerson71864 жыл бұрын
Mr. Flyer- I wouldn't be too concerned about the slowness of the fuel gauge coming up to the FULL mark. Even with my Old Timer's Disease I can still remember for a few blocks that I filled up the tank just now, and after those few blocks the gauge shows it too. Also as a fellow bald man I hope your lockdown goes away soon so that you can get to the barbershop- you are getting a bit shaggy
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
..it's been a very long time since I paid someone to shave my head!!! I'm just being lazy....
@greyanaroth4 жыл бұрын
TMF, I am with you on the lights thing. Its bloody annoying. But one gets used to it. I also hate the "flasher" on the high beam where its an on off switch and there's no real flasher unless you're on your DRLs. Silly.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@PeterPAAntony4 жыл бұрын
I agree with your complaints. I also do not like the shape of the tank. I would prefer, to see something more classic shaped. Like a 60s Bonneville. Also like the vintage badging.
@owloped4054 жыл бұрын
My 2016 Triumph Street Twin gas indicator sometimes doesn't show me the right gas amount after I fill until I shut the bike off and turn it back on again. It must be a Triumph thing or a Street Twin thing. I find it odd but it doesn't bother me much. I use it all the time and never had an issue where I ran out of gas because it was wrong. This only happens after a fill-up. But I'd say it happens at least 50% of the time.
@itsallabouttheridekeepingi44494 жыл бұрын
The Brembos have ALWAYS had issues with brake squall , also with the fuel gauge " Triumph issue " you are probably aware more than most that their Fuel gauges are SLOW to fill ( its happened to two of my previous a Tiger 800 and 1050 Tiger Sport.
@haydnwalker10444 жыл бұрын
The DRL/Headlight illumination indicator, is absolutely backwards TMF... it should be the way you suggested. My car has DRLs, and doesn't tell me they're on... but it DOES tell me when the Dipped Beam is on! The Fuel Gauge thing, happens on all Triumph's I've seen, and also happens (although not as slow as the Triumphs) on my BMW K1200GT (it is a 2008 model though...)
@brockett4 жыл бұрын
Brakes squealing: These bikes are over braked for general use. You just don't need a twin disc set up most of the time. This leads to, comparatively, gentle brake applications and low pressure on the pads to stop the bike . This puts a glaze on the pad resulting in a sqeal as you slow right down to a stop. When it's safe to do , try a few (10 or 12) really hard brake applications from speed - let the ABS do it's thing- and see if the sqeal goes away. I had to do this from time to time on my Fat Bob Harley.
@kevmeister17024 жыл бұрын
Sometimes a squeaky brake is nothing more than dirt trapped in the caliper somewhere. It was happening on my GS and a good squirt into the calipers with brake cleaner stopped it.
@uzi750204 жыл бұрын
I can see your point about the fuel cap. That would get old pretty quick. The fuel gauge on my Tiger 800 does the same thing as yours. I'm thinking it must be the software. When I first noticed it, I thought the level sensor was broken.
@simonrobinson75364 жыл бұрын
Top video. I agree the DRL should come on with the ignition and then use the he switch for the headlights and main beam. 👍
@fernandojimenez5034 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I totally agree with all your points, except the fuel gauge... I frankly don't care about that one. Triumph, if you are reading, not acceptable on a premium bike, totally puts me off buying one
@IanTed4 жыл бұрын
Great bike but the tank range would be my main gripe, but then I ride a GSA😜, soon be back out mate it’s getting to all of us😎🏍
@karlosh92864 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's on my list of annoyances. Speed Twin Range to empty is about 160 miles. So in reality, something like 140 miles before visiting the petrol station.
@darkoflight49384 жыл бұрын
Minor things really and one can find such in any bike/product. The question lingerers in the air tho... is it really a premium bike? The price is anyway. It just is as it is with whatever you buy these day´s. Keep up the good work sir and stay safe!
@MrDibles4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with those lights! What a silly mistake, that should be sorted!
@danebrewer104 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree with the headlight/drl switch scenario....
@Mikey__R4 жыл бұрын
I would assume defaulting to low beam is a safety feature. If you forget to switch to DLR in daytime, you'll be fine, maybe get slightly worse mileage. But if the default was the other way round, forgetting to switch to low beam might cause an accident. My Street Twin doesn't have DLR, I dont think it's that big a deal. Other than that, these gripes are all things you can switch out.
@TheGreatestBeyonder4 жыл бұрын
The fuel cap issue is a pretty easy fix. If you strip the barrel down you can make the cap so it can be left unlocked and opened without the use of the key. I leave my T120 cap unlocked (do thieves even bother with fuel these days)? The green dipped beam is Triumph just being twits. There’s no logical reason for it being that way and they well know it! The rest are all easy fixes too.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Indeed, these are a few minor niggles as I said - I love the bike!
@daveharriman27564 жыл бұрын
I have the Speed Twin, love it, but agree with the fuel gauge being slow to register, and the DRL/ dip is ar*e about face, the biggest niggle for me though, is the front brake squeal, the reservoir I bought the cnc machined one, and got the bullet indicators that are fitted to the Thruxton R before I took charge of the bike.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Glad we concur!
@ivanjulian25324 жыл бұрын
Yay! A new TMF video. Life is good!
@murraymarshall58654 жыл бұрын
Dipped headlights as default makes perfect sense, if daytime lights were the default there is more chance that the rider would drive on them at night having forgotten to change to dipped headlight, also dipped headlight during daytime is OK, day running lights at night less so.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
...leaning on an open door here...
@garyt1234 жыл бұрын
Huge selection of tools seen on the wall behind, also what looks like a Snap-On style toolbox which we assume is full to the brim of great tools....and you need to visit a dealer to change an indicator? 🤔
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
You've clearly never tried to change an indicator on a Speed Twin!!
@anshumanmohapatra16653 жыл бұрын
my Tiger XRx front brakes squealed too.. seems like a Triumph thing!
@pas00033 жыл бұрын
That fuel cap is outrageous. For such an expensive motorcycle and considering that it'll be something that is used quite frequently, it's an absolute outrage. My '07 cb400 had a proper fuel cap, so did my '16 CBR500 and so does my '16 XSR900. All of these are around 40-60% of the price of the Speed Twin. Gah!!
@johnsumser97433 жыл бұрын
Hi, have you noticed your left foot going numb from vibration? It happens to me on longish rides.
@AmritGrewal313 жыл бұрын
1:02 Yeah, that'll work REAL good 😄 2:40 nope, only Triumph simps would defend it. I'd say you're absolutely right. That fuel cap is just a sad choice by Triumph
@cedricjuin78883 жыл бұрын
Hello, thanks very much for this interesting video. I totaly agree with the first thing you hate regarding very bad sound of brakes at low speed. I meet the same problem with mine. I am interested about solution or idears on how you have fixed the problem. Regards from a french biker 😉✌️
@TheMissendenFlyer3 жыл бұрын
I sadly haven't - mine still squeak!
@OntarioAndrews4154 жыл бұрын
Not that it matters, but I agree w/everything you said about the annoying things about that bike. The light switch thingy does sound backwards.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Glad we concur!
@greyrock5514 жыл бұрын
DRL is for legal reasons. Where I live, it is mandatory to have the headlight on (on a motorcycle) - DRL doesn't count. So legally, they have to 'warn' you (through the dash light) that you're running on DRL rather than the obligatory headlight.
@greyrock5514 жыл бұрын
So you kicked off your own indicator (twice), haven't figured out how to open the fuel cap (seems to me there is a set of indents to just screw on/off with your fingers after unlocking), got a plastic brake reservoir just like on every single other bike on sale today, have a bit of OCD going on with your fuel level indicator and discovered that running DRL isn't legal in many countries (and Triumph obviously produce their bike for global sales). Not sure what the point of this vid was then, other than 'squeaky brakes' :). Which isn't nice of course.
@TheQ4274 жыл бұрын
The break squeaking was also evident on the T120 you testrode. The fillercap is definitely fiddly and should have been solved differently. In regarde to the fuel gauge - meanwhile I personally consider it a Triumph feature ;-) It's on all bikes since T started with digital fuel gauges the exact same behaviour. In addition my TEX even refused to show full even when it definitely was (meaning the last block of the gauge) just to change it's behaviour one day w/o any reason :-) Stay safe
@karlosh92864 жыл бұрын
Broken rear indicator. I guess get some piece of rubber tubing, with really thick walls, and make the indicators extra bendy !
@johnaronson59744 жыл бұрын
Good morning, My 2012 Tiger Explorer's gas gauge takes about a half mile to come up to a full reading after gassing up. I suspect this is standard on Triumphs? Regarding your plastic brake reservoir and rear turn signal...Like most manufacturers, Triumph builds even their premium machines to a price point and P&E is likely a good business for them. Considering a Speed Twin but am concerned my 65 yr old wrists and back might suffer. What are your thoughts on bar risers. (Should I just look at the T-120?)
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
The Speed twin is a very comfortable bike - you won't need to change it I wouldn't have thought - the T120 isn't any more comfy in my opinion....
@karlosh92864 жыл бұрын
(1) Front brake squeal, yeah really annoying on my one too. This definitely needs fixing, although not with as someone said to you "Put a dab of grease on the back of the brake pads" . Oh dear, do they have suicidal tendencies ? (2) Daytime running lights. To do it the way you'd like then you would need a push to make, release to break switch to toggle say a relay. I can't say this bothers me too much. Although dipped beam always seems okay to me for running in the daytime . DRL seems to be a bit of a pointless feature. This then leads on to the flasher switch changing what it does on DRL or dipped beam. My Honda CB125R (no DRL) was simpler and more logical on this. ( but the Honda does do the silly thing of having the indicators permanently on when they're not flashing. This seems a bit dangerous to me, could confuse some inattentive drivers ) (3) Fuel cap doesn't bother me, but I can see some of your points. Yeah it took a bit getting used to. My Striple fuel cap is easier to use, but that'd look plain silly on a Speed Twin ! (4) Brake fluid reservoir. I quite like being able to easily see the brake fluid level. Seems okay to me. Reading the comments below, I seem to be the only one ! (5) Fuel Gauge response. As quick as a sloth on sedative drugs. This didn't annoy me until we came to lock down. Drained nearly all of my tank, still shows lots of petrol. I've run the bike in my garden every few weeks, haven't checked for a week or so, but the slow fuel gauge means I don't know how much is left in the tank since I've syphoned off the fuel. Maybe it will register when I next drag it out in a week or so. (6) I haven't broken a rear indicator, yet ! (I'll look out for that one) On my list of minor annoyances, I'd add : (a) Fuel tank is a bit too small. Needs to be more like 16.5 litres. (b) Side stand foot lug is really hard to get to. Needs to be 1/2 inch longer. (c) The standard exhaust with black section looks a bit naff. I guess Triumph need a reason for customers to buy the Vance & Hines. (d) Why the seat doesn't cover up the final rear bit of frame sure beats me. Looks a little bit naff. (e) Slightly snatchy throttle in Sport mode. (f) The indicator switch isn't quite as good as what I had on a Honda CB125R. The feel isn't as positive. (Although Honda puts the switch in the wrong position) But like you, my Speed Twin is definitely a keeper. The list of positives easily out weigh the few minor niggles. I love my Striple, but if I had to sell one of my bikes (sorry Striple) it would be the Striple. This would be a hard choice !
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Yes I tend to agree and would probably have the Twin over the Triple....re (e) Did you see my video “how to cure a snatchy throttle on the Triumph speed twin”???
@karlosh92864 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer I did . I might do that :)
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
.....it transforms the bike!
@iancrossley66373 жыл бұрын
The only one I can agree on is the fuel cap.
@CHuzz77774 жыл бұрын
I sat on one a couple of months ago, it’s a beautiful bike but I’d add one gripe - it’s absolutely tiny. Like all of Triumph’s retro bikes it’s an absurdly small and low bike. I’m convinced Triumph are targeting the pockets of our shorter brethren.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Hurrah! Works for me ;0)
@dannyperry35984 жыл бұрын
I agree, the squeaking brakes are a pain in the arse !
@richardpearson42484 жыл бұрын
Great video fantastic bike my speed twin the breaks never squeak I love mine can not fault it stay safe 🇬🇧👍🏻
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Don't get me wrong Richard - I love mine too - brilliant machine!