I'm shocked that the final corner at long beach isn't on the list but I would definitely agree with a lot of those choices 👍
@jackbelton7611 Жыл бұрын
COTA literally scarred me for life getting DQ'd at the finish line of a 12 hour.
@BasicOllie Жыл бұрын
OUCH!
@ApexCris Жыл бұрын
Sunset and Fujis final sector a fantastic imo because there are so many different lines that work. I'd much rather be able to take multiple lines than a corner like Tower at Sebring where there's only one line through, and even that feels absolutely awful. Also the Long Beach hairpin deserves to be here.
@BasicOllie Жыл бұрын
Ah no worries, I thought this my spark a difference of opinion 🤣 for me corners can have multiple lines but there is always only 1 that should be used and it’s the quickest!
@ApexCris Жыл бұрын
@@BasicOllie Oh I hear you, it can take a while to figure out, but it's great for racing, especially in downforce cars where you can adapt to avoid dirty air. But I also understand why some don't enjoy Fuji especially
@HH0ps Жыл бұрын
I love the uncertainty of sunset at Sebring, turn 1 is way worse in my eyes
@Kevakazii Жыл бұрын
Turns 15 & 16 in Le mans are my kryptonite.
@DoubleDashMotorsportMedia Жыл бұрын
One for my list - Turn 2, entry to the esses at Road Atlanta. Specifically if I'm in multi class and I'm in a GT. It's a blind crest, the apex is somewhere out there, get it wrong you're then fudged for the next 6 corners, LMP2 cars come charging up on you and just expect you to not exist all of a sudden oh and just to top it off anyone coming out of the pits will be slow, off the racing line and understeering on cold tyres so much they'll end up in the next state. Rest of the track - great. But T2 - I hate it!
@Kronikman07 Жыл бұрын
I agree with a couple turns, but idk how people don't hate the last turn on long beach.
@VbPickleball Жыл бұрын
Man i HATE Hungaroring, glad I'm not the only one. Great vid!
@dangerousdave123451 Жыл бұрын
Sunset, and Sebring in general, is my current best example of a track I absolutely hated when I first tried it but the more I drive it, the more I enjoy it.
@christopherdowning7776 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love Sebring in the rain. Especially turns 2-14. The dry lines get slick the wet lines get grip and game on!
@dangerousdave123451 Жыл бұрын
@@christopherdowning7776 is that because of the water flowing from higher parts of the track surface and pooling in lower parts? Looking forward to struggling with it once iracing gets rain!
@regibson23 Жыл бұрын
Hard disagree on Sunset. The beauty of it is how tough it is to find the right line. And really it's that there's several good lines. Silverstone T4's sister corner is T15 at COTA. On Magny Cours don't forget that it's a chicane that comes immediately after a hard turn. So you're not even going fast.
@sdickinson64 Жыл бұрын
Long Beach hairpin definitely needs to be on this list. Maybe replacing Hungaroring. Hungaroring is definitely an absolutely terrible track, but for single corners and/or sectors, hard to beat the ridiculousness of the Long Beach hairpin and Road America kink. Also 100% agree regarding COTA. Absolutely hate that track, but the only flowy bit of the entire track is the esses and I do love those when I get it right. Just removing those curbs to allow for a tiny safety margin would go so far.
@ingobordewick6480 Жыл бұрын
I wonder that the chicane at Barcelona is not in here. It's horrible. Agreed on most of your opinions.
@Bottna Жыл бұрын
I like the last part at Fuji. 😅 It gets better the more you race there. 😊
@ralf4431 Жыл бұрын
Fuji last sector is genuine pain on single monitor, as you said each apex feels like a gamble and the line you have to take is just an open invitation to divebomb from the driver behind. Fuji S1 and S2 feel great but S3 just scares me away from ever attempting to drive it again
@jamesfrearson8822 Жыл бұрын
Turn 4 at Silverstone and the last section of Fuji is one off the reason why I got a head tracker.
@curlyqv2467 Жыл бұрын
Honorable mention is the last corner at Imola. The slowdowns are brutal
@Neekogee Жыл бұрын
imola, yes, but I have more PTSD from the third chicane, the green stuff at the exit is soo slippery!
@MustacheWins Жыл бұрын
It's not a great corner in ACC, can't imagine how bad it is in iracing with this slowdown bs
@dcfcwill23 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t really disagree too much with this list, but I wanna believe that some corners on this list might feel a bit better in a different car compared to others I’d also include the uphill left hander at Watkins Glen, no grip and confidence at all, it’s just abysmal. Or just simply the entire road Atlanta and Laguna seca track 😭
@hugopalmava Жыл бұрын
As an almost exclusively formula driver I did not agree with most, but, trying to imagine those same corners on a heavier, bigger car, than what Im used to, yeah, I totally see your point. F4 in hungaro was amazing, first time I drove there. (I only drive formulas because I find it easier, I struggle with the weight of gt3's, but I will learn someday)
@hugopalmava Жыл бұрын
I wish I could get a refund on magny cour as well
@stormsurgeesports Жыл бұрын
I'm an oval guy who's done about 500 road races now... I absolutely hate the first corner and the middle sector at Red Bull Ring.
@AdrianJSClark Жыл бұрын
Even in VR and the open-cockpit of the Mercedes-AMG W13 F1 car Silverstone T4 is a pain! The wheels are so big with the wake deflectors that the apex is still hidden.
@phillupson8561 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree on Hungaroring, I practiced hard thinking it was just me, once I get the hang of it I'll learn to love it, but nope, I still hate it more than any other track on iracing. I too would take a refund in a heartbeat on that one.
@hackiison Жыл бұрын
The final chicane at Le Mans is my least favourite. Great way to bottle a good quali lap by either slightly cutting and getting a slow down or lose so much time being cautious.
@racingprincipal Жыл бұрын
I agree with you about Hungaroring, no flow at all and a lot of slow corners. I would add a couple of corners from Barcelona as well.
@marijn17s Жыл бұрын
When i saw the title, these tracks were EXACTLY what i was thinking about. Plus also turn 11 at COTA, which has the same issue as the silverstone one but maybe even worse cause you can't see the apex at all for multiple seconds on single screen
@eastofmars6413 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree on Fuji. Never played iracing but it's rough on GT as well.
@scrappy8494 Жыл бұрын
I actually quite like COTA Sector 1 but not the sector 1 iRacing has. those bumps completely ruin it. 1cm to wide and you get sent to the ISS Space Station Magy-Cour I completely agree with especially in LMDH and LMP2, those curbs are absolutely horrible
@graemeraine2010 Жыл бұрын
Agree with Fuji. If you take a line that's quick, you get divebombed as drivers see the "door open"
@stuarthamilton679 Жыл бұрын
Sebring lol, "it's just aweful" you say, just as I was thinking "it's just brilliant", amazing!
@connorohidy8491 Жыл бұрын
Alternate video idea: The worst 8 corners that I cannot help but love. Man... sunset, the kink at Road America, these are love/hate relationships, they are the crazy ex you keep going back to. Sunset at sunset has got to be my fav corner/time in all of racing
@otto-m.lampert5205 Жыл бұрын
Full agree to your choice, Oli. You could also add COTA Turn 16 to list, which is also blind as Silverstone.
@secret_one Жыл бұрын
COTA - The snake is a very poor copy of a part of Assen. I hate COTA, it is a track that has meant to have taken the best parts of a lot of different tracks and just butchered them completely. Most of the other corners and sectors I have to agree with.
@thornament367 Жыл бұрын
My absolute top 1 has to be the West Bend section at Lime Rock, such a horrible double apex into a swift direction change. Thankfully that layout is barely used!
@baldmar5083 Жыл бұрын
Last corner at Long Beach?
@jk_46 Жыл бұрын
Hungary in a GT3 in ACC I got punted off at T2 1st lap and was trying to recover. I caught someone at over 2s a lap and just could not pass, I got blocked at every opportunity. Eventually I got a sniff of a gap after he made a mistake 2nd to last corner, I was up the inside of the last corner my front wheel next to his front door and got punted and spun out. They may abolish that track it really sucks!
@ChrisZero7 Жыл бұрын
Had been to COTA several times (Super Lap Battle), can agree to that lol - its cool to see cars go through the back area of the Pits but during Gridlife races, a whole crowd of 30 cars, could imagine the mess of getting through S1 💀 *in Addition, I’d probably say Sonoma has the worst S1 - high climb into a hard right turn then a quick left
@joshuachipling6923 Жыл бұрын
lol totally agree with the Hungaro id put it up there with iRacing Superspeedway for the oval cars as my worst tracks.
@AndrewPeddie3 ай бұрын
"I can't find the right line at Fuji" - whilst driving the perfect line at Fuji
@SunDodger Жыл бұрын
Solid choices here. I thought Sunset was like Eau Rouge or the Porsche Curves and beyond reproach... Hate that corner.
@osama6najargamer184 Жыл бұрын
Hockenheim hairpin is number one in my list, god I hate that corner
@maxb148 Жыл бұрын
For me the worst corner in racing is the last corner of the Dunlop esses as I never know when to get on power and either do it too late and ruin my run all down Mulsane or go too early and run off also ruining my run.
@kidMclean Жыл бұрын
This should be a 500k channel
@Iyaxgaming Жыл бұрын
didnt expect to see sunset in your list, its one of my favourites
@MylesHimself Жыл бұрын
I was racing Fuji earlier today and was just as completely dumbfounded as you at the last sector. that i had a whole rant about it to my friend on discord lmao. like literally 30 minutes ago.
@samdajellybeenie14 Жыл бұрын
7:26 I did not expect that and burst out laughing hahaha. The Fuji sausage curbs ripped the entire front end of my Merc GT3 once, hilarious replay material. Yes Silverstone T4 is horrible for me with a single monitor. The Auto Club roval T6 is like that too. Getting the line right is a crapshoot really. Fuji I think is not TOO bad because you can follow the rubbered-in line but it took me a lot of practice to get reasonably quick there. I'm surprised Nurburgring GP arena section didn't make it on the list - those few corners are some of the worst in motorsport imo. They're not fast but not slow, they feel like they take forever and the car kind of lumbers through them.
@ciaranconnor4466 Жыл бұрын
Haha T4 at Silverstone, couldn't agree more, great shout. Don't actually mind the Fuji final sector, it's T1 gets me anxious, dive bomb city!
@kurtschnippel1053 Жыл бұрын
There is a TON of art on the real life walls after Road America’s kink for all the reasons you listed
@midslam Жыл бұрын
"Nobody knows...blow it up" 🤣
@Infigo96 Жыл бұрын
Don't you dare diss T1 at VIR. It is an amazing corner for overtaking. Outside, inside, over-under. Done it all. They even removed (or reduced) the HUGE bump on the outside at the exit too with the rescan. The bump that have sent me round a few times out in the abyss. The kink is worse at VIR, loose it there and you have an eternety to get back....or get a black flag for reaching the back straight. And if you are talking t4 at Silverstone, why not t11 at cota which is hopelessly blind or T1 which is so tricky, narrow and chaos + being blind single screen. Sunset at sebring I do agre, I always loose time there or get sent or some akward encounter
@BasicOllie Жыл бұрын
Came at me Hampus cause I just did 🤣 appreciate the comment regardless
@Alan-ww8vi Жыл бұрын
Surprised you mentioned Silverstone turn 4 and Fuji's last sector but you didn't mention the COTA corners that you can't see the apex on a single screen too.
@davidius74 Жыл бұрын
I agree with most of that but I would put CoTA as #1 and not just the first sector but the whole track. There is just something about Hermann Tilke designed tracks that I just don't like, not one of them! As these are all modeled from the real circuits there is not a thing iRacing SHOULD do to change them just so you can 'cut' the corner a bit more and go faster through them e.g. the CoTA sausage kerbs and the high kerbs at Magny Cours. If iRacing took away the things that exist on the real circuits then they are not being faithful to the circuit and then you might as well forget about scanning the circuits and just make rough approximations of them or make complete fantasy tracks. I would add Daytona Roval Turn 1 to this list. Coming off the banking while turning slightly to get to that short chute and then braking heavily to make the turn, the car is ALWAYS unsettled and difficuly to stop properly. The only way I have managed to make the turn successfully is by starting my braking just before the bend, easing off to turn the wheel to go into the bend and then braking heavily. Of course that means I am usually 2 seconds down just on that 1 turn compared to everyone else and if I happen to be in front of someone often get booted up the rear and punted off anyway. Certainly the one corner I haven't mastered
@xXxBo5sANaCxXx Жыл бұрын
Road Atlanta T2 and T3 on that uphill gotta be the WROSE, Redbull ring T1 close second
@nicholasmotz Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Fuji is weird right! I'm glad I'm not the only one. In Gran Turismo, I'm so bad at it
@exediron188 Жыл бұрын
The only thing really missing is the Long Beach hairpin, which is an absolute abomination of a corner.
@Ruthless1LE Жыл бұрын
Great video Ollie! However, I disagree on the Kink at Road America. Maybe its because I live just hours from there and have done a track day there, who knows. However, as the saying goes....Respect The Kink. 😉
@WayWorthRacing Жыл бұрын
Next week is Hungaroring in the IMSA iRacing Series, not looking forward to it , it really is a difficult track to multi class race
@Bob-huisbaas Жыл бұрын
I actually love how bumpy sebring is ;)
@closetsimracer Жыл бұрын
I love sunset, Silverstone T4 is great in VR 😂
@ohgeez9971 Жыл бұрын
I hate turn 1 at Nurburgring GP. So many deaths there, it should be renamed Graveyard Corner.
@kin3tic271 Жыл бұрын
I think you should get the track map of hungaroring on the wall behind you 😀
@Laz0rftw Жыл бұрын
I dont get how you pick the best corner of Sebring and then proveed to drive the distance to the worst corner and STOP before you reach it😂😂😂 That hairpin would make my top 8 for sure :) But Im happy I saw Silverstone t4 on this. These were the two corners I thought of
@xshotzuk8360 Жыл бұрын
I'm just curious why you don't use triples? Obviously your are skilled enough without but surely you would be even quicker or at an advantage with triples? Be good to hear your thoughts Ollie
@BasicOllie Жыл бұрын
Been using triples for about a month now bud. Was just saying it for anyone on singles
@xshotzuk8360 Жыл бұрын
@BasicOllie oh nice! Not seen them on your stream. How do you rate them over a single? I use triples myself. Maybe one day I'll get into your splits 😆
@charlesbochar8681 Жыл бұрын
Strange. I love COTA. One of my top favorites. I would have to say Sonoma should be on this list.
@jonhartley7238 Жыл бұрын
I love T4 Silverstone, but tbf I'm VR only
@POP7QWIZ Жыл бұрын
VIR is the place to go to learn that the grass physics in iRacing are iBroke
@justinpoulter5700 Жыл бұрын
Any week with VIR makes me depressed for this reason
@Injektil_o Жыл бұрын
Surprised no mention of chicane at Imola
@the_real_beaker_ Жыл бұрын
Oh man, couldn’t agree more putting all of Hungoring on n here hahaha and I don’t mind the first sector of cota, but the second and third sector?? Hate it…
@faduf2047 Жыл бұрын
I like hungaroring but really don't like the red bull ring, especially T1. Also don't like much T1 at COTA.
@ericforster2970 Жыл бұрын
For me, COTA is so awful it makes Hungaroring or Fuji seem like Mugello in comparison. COTA is such a strange track. The esses don't flow, and zero-radius hairpins are just tedious. Worst of the Tilke-dromes.
@brendanressler4359 Жыл бұрын
I love magny cours
@vocnys Жыл бұрын
The whole track at COTA could have been included tbf. Same goes with Silverstone
@SgtMikas Жыл бұрын
Fully agree on Hungaroring, such a terrible track. Didnt even purchase it for iRacig since i hated it in F1 alrdy.
@alejandrotorrealba2306 Жыл бұрын
You want deadly sausage kerbs and overall worst corner/sector? Roval 2018 bus stop should've been here
@joshmilton Жыл бұрын
Just calling out the whole of the Hungaroring gets the my vote, what a god awful circuit.
@I_Like__bananas Жыл бұрын
I have no problem with T4 at silverstone but I hate how two straights look that much like each other. Those fast rights are terribme
@mitchelldoub8488 Жыл бұрын
Agreed All 8 times
@LukeVesty Жыл бұрын
Ha, and that's the easier version of the final sector at Fuji. Try it again in the GP configuration in the W13 with T10, 11 and 12 fully intact. You'll cry for your mummy.
@A_Petit_TV Жыл бұрын
Long beach last corner
@MrRamoSzz Жыл бұрын
I would say that Turn 12 on VIR is also dreadful, at least when you are on signle screen. I race in VR and don't have many issues with it, but when I was at my friend's place and was trying to convert him from Toyota GR to Ferrari GT3 we both were literally flying off this turn as you don't see where it turns until it is too late :D
@Diasmotorsport Жыл бұрын
Lime rock park turn 1 Lime rock park chicane
@benneitmann4143 Жыл бұрын
I don‘t know why, but I just hate Turn 15&16 at Cota, blind corner, don‘t know where to brake, just rubbish
@matthewjones3806 Жыл бұрын
3:40 sounds like Greg doucette
@ingmarosterberg6673 Жыл бұрын
But t4 on hungaroring is goated
@richardlehoux Жыл бұрын
Funny! Love it
@PoppyofBOBA Жыл бұрын
Its a motor bike track Fuji
@IOByrne Жыл бұрын
disappointed not to see all the zolder chicanes on here
@mgm418871 Жыл бұрын
Last sector at Fuji is the worst sector in racing which is remarkable given the first two sectors at Fuji are almost as bad. Dog ass track
@laok007 Жыл бұрын
LOL, I agree with sector 3 at Fuji, there are so many interpretations to the line I don't know what to take, and if you're not careful people will hang it around the inside line making it even more awkward. I don't know how they engineered I to be so awkward.
@Barbosa81 Жыл бұрын
LOL I love all of these tracks.
@benthepenguin7435 Жыл бұрын
you are litterally complaining about kerbs even tho they are ment to keep the drivers within tracklimits and they are like this to scare the drivers even more so you wont even try getting an advantage. they are deadly to punish you. that is the same reason that same principle counts IRL too. you can destroy your car when you drive over certain sausage kerbs irl when you aren´t lucky or just ignorrant
@충격실망김금옥 Жыл бұрын
Where is long beach !! 🤣
@nathanieljohnson5950 Жыл бұрын
Sebring has talked about a repave, but drivers and even manufacturers have said not to because a lot of its beauty comes from being so hard for drivers and on cars. The only people who I have ever heard say it needs to be redone are either casual fans or people who think that race tracks should only be silky smooth like the tracks built specifically for f1.
@simonjerryncf1987 Жыл бұрын
Those face expressions need to be more extreme for your thumbnails
@BasicOllie Жыл бұрын
I thought I did alright Simon 🤣
@simonjerryncf1987 Жыл бұрын
You did really. Some others that I see jump scare me. At least you didn't do that
@Panzer_Runner Жыл бұрын
Yeah those clickbaity youtubers have absolutely comical exaggerated faces
@richardlehoux Жыл бұрын
@@BasicOllie If i can help with my knowledge of visual communication: if you zoom closer to your face, your expression will be easier to read. Also, I would have taken a picture from above and enaugh far away to understand better it’s a car taking a corner. I hope it help (if I’m right 😂) Has usual , trial and error will make you find the right balance.
@stuarthamilton679 Жыл бұрын
Also I have to hate you, I love Hungaroring!!!
@83cajht Жыл бұрын
Just gonna say it, I dislike Silver stone, it just boring, uneventful it is just meh....turn 4 is about the most excitement you get, that is not even a good kind...
@benhodkinson6467 Жыл бұрын
Dude writing off a corner because it doesn’t work on single monitor setups is a serious lack of perspective and rather overstating the importance of sim racing, the track was not designed for you……
@samuelgarrod8327 Жыл бұрын
Learn the circuit. Simple.
@danielsivi-szabo2418 Жыл бұрын
Skill issue
@17peteclarke Жыл бұрын
just gonna go into a race and haven't seen yet but thought i'd bet on last corner long beach being up there!