Top Cards WE WANT BANNED and the cards WE WANT BACK | Digimon TCG Banlist Discussion

[@abdullahali2184]

Considering the disaster R/B Greymon got this block from the team's so-called "design space" after GreyX limit, I'd rather have that card back and never get any more support than go through multiple waves of bad cards being a waste of space for sets.

[@DragonSoulreapr]

I feel that magna x should just be choice restricted or limited. Hopefully the price will plummet

[@rossedwards3623]

Patamon is my precious baby boy but at some point he probably does have to go because the ability to cheat into a 4 for a net gain of memory can only get better as the game goes on.

[@zackmiller-fx4wd]

Greymon x can for sure come back plenty of shit now comes out for essentially free.

[@michaelkeha]

Greymon X is fine he was just ahead of his time but now he's fairly standard

[@rand0mlyhere]

As a Mirage player: I’d personally rather see my Thomas(es) get hit over bt11 Mirage, but FULLY understand if it gets hit. The way I see it, Thomas is really only in the crosshairs for ftk enabling, but bt11 Mirage has the ability to bounce nearly anything (or remove security bc Drasil forbid the doggo whiffs), evo’s for 2 memory in most cases, and taxes your opponent for any draw/search cards they need to enact their own gameplan. It’d be easier for the mirage players if thomas was hit, but I do think the healthier target is Mirage. I’m not a big fan of trying to replace the playmaker with bt4 Mirage, who really only says ‘unblockable’, but the playerbase may very well be happier for it.

[@raikaria3090]

I think something in Imperaldramon needs to be hit too. If you hit the other decks; it's the undisputed #1. It's been around as long as Magnamon X and consistantly is a Top 3 deck.

[@m0ng00se4]

As much as I'd like it back for myself bt11 greyx still leads to no-interaction turn 2 or 3 wins for wargreymon that are only really answered by the things people have problems with, i.e turboing into magna x or something Also I don't really understand how awakening of the golden knight would possibly be an "unintended" interaction, the card was explicitly designed to turbo any armor form into magna x. There's absolutely no way they didn't have it and rapidmon on the table at the same time. You'd be suggesting that they didn't consider that Awakening interacts with magna x at all and that he's not in the same set as extremely impactful rapidmon support The problem with the super tight engines isn't that they're too good, it's that there are only like 2 and they go into the same deck very easily. If there were five or six high-impact 8-12 card packages you'd see a lot more mix+match or you'd see them filling out decks that have a bit of wiggle room in their lists

[@DaigonRoogen]

When it comes to the comment on Bt7 Dorugreymon; the card gives protections the several decks of the current meta can get around while countering the mechanic of one of two decks it would go in. We have a heavy lingering -dp or bounce for removal format when it comes to the tier 1 decks. Some of which can stun for multiple turns in a row. If the Sec A.+1 was the issue, there are plenty of other decks that get that with a much easier time than Black X Antibody in general. The card honestly doesn't do a whole lot at this point in time, especially with how strong ACE Digimon have become over a few sets & still become even stronger in the foreseeable future.

[@ATXEagleXGaming]

There aren’t a whole lot of cards I’m super cautious on for utility, but there is too much functionally on the one card for the deck archetype for myself personally to see it come off.

[@LocoDS49]

Part of the reason it got limited was because it could place a copy of itself, so imagine a single Dorugoramon with protection from effects, big body and an extra life with 3 checks that unsuspends potentially multiple times, yeah it can stay at 1.

[@Oops-All-Agumon]

I love how a lot of people wants BT11 greymon X to come back acknowledging that the game has a speed issue but only want to support the game getting faster instead of slowing things down. sure it would require more things to get hit but it would create a better game over all. A card like that should stay banned and more cards like it should get banned. I think BT13 was the best speed the game had and was destroyed 1 set latter and continues to get worse.

[@RaveDX]

If MirageGaoga gets restricted, it'd kill his whole deck. If people are scared of the otk, then Bandai just has to restrict 1 Thomas tamer to slow it down. Mirage isn't a big problem in the Meta anyways.

[@ATXEagleXGaming]

@@RaveDX the bigger issue with not hitting bt11 mirage is that it is seeing play in decks outside of pure mirage. You have 2 other miragegaos you can use still (bt4/bt13) so you can still play the deck. It would be knocked down a notch though

[@RaveDX]

@@ATXEagleXGaming Which other meta deck uses Mirage though?? It's effect is great but not even close to game breaking for other decks, since they would rather want to go to their main win con rather than restricting hand growth for the opponent.

[@LinkDeHablaHispana]

​@RaveDX it literally came 4 of the top 8 in the last asian regional and one of the other top 8 was a galaxy deck with a top end of 4 miragegaoga. The card isn't a problem at 1, but even at two it already trivialize one of the key mechanics of the game: searching.

[@LinkDeHablaHispana]

Also, in the top 8 there were a deck playing only one copy of the two thomas each, the problem isn't the tamer lol

[@RaveDX]

@@LinkDeHablaHispana That MirageGalaxy deck is an exception within what normally wins top 8. Mixed decks like that don't top very consistently, unlike pure Mirage decks, which consistently top with 3 of each Thomas.

[@SparoShadows]

Unban everything for Omni

[@p3ter67]

I think it's fine not to hit lui because if gabu bond is too strong people will just run digimon emperor which hard counters that deck

[@bhammy131]

Same has been said for any deck that runs Ukko. Just like Ukkos, with the Matt's and Lui, gabu bond would have so much memory gain that it wouldn't care about emperor. Then you have to account for the limited room for emperor in a lot of decks. Even when taking into account the amount of setup gabu bond needs to not care, Emperor would actually do next to nothing.

[@p3ter67]

@@bhammy131 personally tho i have been liking emperor in my decks, decks like rk and 7dl actually likes the extra draw too

[@bhammy131]

@p3ter67 I run 3 in my 7DL deck for the draw specifically. It helps to slow down other decks that don't run Ukko or when any Ukko player somewhat bricks and sees less Ukkos. But when the Ukkos flood, it's only good for the draw.

[@dakotawolf1027]

Aaaaaahahhahahahaa loving all this banlist speculation. People this is Bandai!! Already proven they're gonna be just like Konami with format management. Calling it right now: No old cards coming off the restricted list (truly laughable) Restricted: Bt16 Ukko (duh) nume x (broken and getting old) Thats it and that's all folks because less is more for Bandai when it comes to aftermarket product management 🙃

[@raikaria3090]

The timing of the banlist and the Japanese meta makes it almost certain something in AncientGarurumon will be hit too. The timing is between our BT17 and EX07. EX07 was practically a dead set besides Shoto thanks to Numemon and AncientGarurumon. Same with BT18 which only had half a deck ["Purply Hybrid" which is really Purple Hybrid cards used with SoC mindlink stuff to repeatedly spam out Hybrids and turbo to lv6's.]

[@Xhjon]

Plz no ukko ban. Unless you free my boy dogman. Weregarurumon did nothing wrong.

[@ATXEagleXGaming]

I truthfully see a world they release promo weregaruru and promo grankuwaga thanks to the introduction of ace cards to interact on the opponent turn

[@richardshiflett5181]

Ban both ukkomon

[@m0ng00se4]

I don't think bandai wants to free the promote->swing for game play pattern from jail regardless of if counterplay exists. Cards have been banned on grounds of simply being no fun which I think is probably reason enough

[@aliensoup1218]

Free jetsilphy Free reinforcing memory boost

[@ATXEagleXGaming]

Jet could come off if their goal is to slow down the game but with 4 different colour hybrids having access to jet in bt18 it might be a bit much.

[@ThePetrifiedkit]

Especially with purple hybrid putting up results and can digi into jet out of trash it needs to stay at 1