Top Features I Want in the New Sony FX3 II - Camera Rumors & Wishlist

[@johnsavagecrypto]

what lense are you using in this video?

[@adnan_velic]

@@johnsavagecrypto 13mm viltrox f1.4

[@alansarpy]

The fx3 II should be the ultimate Run N Gun Camera ... Here is my wish List....3 base ISO.'s like the c400. 4k down sampled from a 6k sensor being able to shoot 24,60 and 120 fps. Open gate at lower frame rates if possible, Keep the fan, SHUTTER ANGLE, A BETTER LCD ... Move the Focus Toggle to the back of the Camera , its use less on top... Forget a global shutter and just go with a stacked sensor that is faster than the OG fx3. Sony could also go with their OXCN codec found in the burano and Venus .. Its not raw but has insane color fidelity ... And last but not least the AI auto focus that didn't make it in the OG Fx3... Yes I'm sure this camera Im dreaming about would cost 8,000 lol

[@adnan_velic]

@@alansarpy I like it man! 6k sensor would mean 18mp minimum if I’m not mistaken? That would make it a little worse in low light. That 3 base ISO would be crazy! Definitely looking forward to these new cameras coming out soon I hope.

[@alansarpy]

@@adnan_velic They could keep the 12megaix and good with it... sometimes you need a boost in ISO but not 12,800 worth and that image gets a little soft with all the internal noise reduction... I shoot real estate among other things, and the dynamic range on the a7siii/ fx3 sensor is pretty incredible ... I would really like the fx3ii just to have more cinema features, but that LCD screen is a joke.... Sony could literally fix what the people want and have a camera that slows everyone away... I think shooting RAW is awesome, but there tons of shows on TV filmed on 10 bit 4:2:2 and the image looks amazing.... I also want them to come out with. fx2 that you have an option of buying with or without a top handle... I like the current top handle but it makes a ton of handling noise

[@alansarpy]

@@adnan_velicgood chatting with you ... Camera gear is fun to talk about especially for video shooters

[@adnan_velic]

@@alansarpyhell yeah man 🤝🏼 12mp is enough I totally agree there. Would be nice if it got ProRes for me it runs better on my Mac and it has so much data in it the image looks phenomenal.

[@alansarpy]

@@adnan_velic that would be cool .. I tried recording pro res into a atomos what a pain

[@jcar4522]

Ibis could be a possible upgrade. 7RV has it, so why not! Hope so. With that kind of specs, who cares fuji anymore :D I guess it will be expensive, but being a sony, every dollar (euro in my case) expended is worth it.

[@adnan_velic]

@@jcar4522 Sony makes amazing cameras indeed

[@UnseenSamy]

WHEN IS THIS CAMERA COMING I CANT WAIT

[@adnan_velic]

@@UnseenSamy hopefully this year!

[@annoholics]

This sounds indeed more like a whishlist then anything else. We have to keep in mind that the FX-3 is a very good camera but it is still on the bottom end of the Sony cinema cameras. So, giving the FX-3 mk2 features that the FX-6 can only dream about would drastically cut into the sales of the FX-6. There would only be one reason why you would buy a Sony FX-6 and that is the internal ND. It would only make sense if the FX-6 mk2 would be released before the FX-3. Which would also make sense because the FX-6 was released at the end of 2020 and the FX-3 was released at the beginning of 2021. So, if the FX-6 mk2 would be released in the fall of 2024 then the FX-3 can be released in the beginning of 2025. Still, when the FX-3 has extreme low light capabilities, global shutter, internal RAW recording, then even FX-9 owners might become jealous.

[@adnan_velic]

@@annoholics totally agree with you for the most part but the fx6 bodies do have more connections and customization that make it more suitable for larger production applications. You can of course rig out the fx3 but then you’re coming closer to the fx6 price so why not just get the fx6 at that point? I just feel like every time I start hearing about rumors making its way around KZbin a new camera release is definitely happening. You could be right it may be a fx6 mark 2 to compete with the c400 but me personally I believe it will be an fx3 mark 2 to crush the z6iii and the new canon small body cameras.

[@annoholics]

@@adnan_velic Sure, larger productions might benefit from several features of the FX-6 or FX-9, but how much bigger do you want to go than "The Creator"? I think most FX-3 camera's will be used by e.g. wedding videographers or perhaps as a backup camera for somebody that normaly uses an FX-6. Also a lot of the bigger KZbinrs use the FX-3. I think even a lot of smaller videographers decide to go for the FX-6 because their clients want to see a "real professionals cinema camera" and not some kind of "photo camera". I think most smaller videographers will do just fine with the FX-3. Global shutter, insane dynamic range, and internal RAW are of course very nice to have, but I would expect that more in the higher price range then in the FX-3 mk2. None of the Sony cinema cameras have these features combined, so imho it would be strange to find that in the most budget version of cinema cameras and not in the higher-end models. I think it would be hard to explain to the Venice customers that they have to go to the FX-3 mk2 if they want global shutter.

[@adnan_velic]

But that’s how technology goes… it becomes smaller and more powerful. Just because 1 movie was made using the fx3 doesn’t make the fx6 or fx9 obsolete NOW. Those bigger body cameras are production ready I’m not talking about image quality they all use the same sensor that’s not my point. It’s the easy of being able to plug in a bunch of things and having larger batteries connect right into the body instead of having to rig out an fx3. Things become better over time. The fx3 ii even with all the features I stated will not replace a Venice or a current fx6 for people who need the ports and the ease of production integration. There are people who use older RED cameras and old ARRIS even though on paper the new Sony cameras are amazing it’s not about that it’s about reliability and familiarity with the camera. This is just my opinion and I respect what you’re saying.

[@kouleeofficial]

I mean cameras cheaper than the a7iv and a7siii has some better features that Sony is not bringing to the more expensive cameras.

[@adnan_velic]

@@kouleeofficial THIS! The bigger cameras are about 100% reliability and workflow integration. It’s not about being feature packed with AI stuff….

[@NdooleAbbasMaella]

i can't wait to see it walahi

[@adnan_velic]

@@NdooleAbbasMaella same here 🤞🤞

[@GunnarBjarki-nw2oi]

I just got the Sony Fx3, so either I hope they don't release a Fx3 II, or that it's so expensive that I would have still gotten the Fx3 I would love an EVF on the Fx3 Ibis, I feel like it's good enough, especially if you put a top handle and monitor

[@adnan_velic]

@@GunnarBjarki-nw2oi I hear you on that. Was thinking about a fx3 to buy personally but with all these cameras releasing this year I’m going to wait a little longer and see.

[@GunnarBjarki-nw2oi]

@@adnan_velic ye absolutely, I was going to do the same, but I waited a few months and I finally decided to just go for the FX3 since I had gotten tired of my fuji xh2s, the FX3 is an absolutely amazing camera, the 12.800 native iso is a game changer, the only thing I don't like that it doesn't have internal ND's and that it doesn't have open gate or a viewfinder, but other than that I couldn't ask for a better video camera

[@adnan_velic]

@@GunnarBjarki-nw2oihow you like the image quality compared to the xh2s? Do you think it’s better or equal quality?

[@GunnarBjarki-nw2oi]

@@adnan_velic mmmm, it's hard to say excactly, I would say Equal in some ways, better in other ways, So for the fuji I had the 18-35mm 1.8, wich is equal to 26-52mm 2.8 or something like that on a fullframe, so a 24-70mm 2.8. beats that lens massively (inmyopinion) What I like about the sony that I didn't like about the fuji 1. It has reliable, I mean really reliable autofocus, and I can trust it, and I can map a button on the camera and on the lens to overwrite the autofocus if I need to focus manually, which is a game changer for my workflow 2. base iso is 800 and not 1250. I like 800 more because of nd filter stuff, I have a 2-5 stop wich is not enough, so I just bought a 6-9 stop 3. the ibis is better and smoother, with the fuji I was having some wobbles on the wide end, on sony I'm having way less, and I feel like the ibis is just a little bit better, not a lot but a little, + catalys browse can clean it up nicely if needed 4. being able quickly put on and take of the top handle without putting the camera in a cage is something that I love, because I can rig it up heavy and tear it appart super quickly without having tools to take of a cage etc. 5. the low light is just unbeatable 6. having a fullframe sensor if I need super shallow dof is super nice, I love a 35mm 1.4 look 7. xlr audio, I have a sennheiser mke 600 and it's absolutely amazing 8. I feel like the sony works better with my external monitor for some reason, I have an easier time autofocusing, and the same goes to the screen, I can see better where my focus is at 9. I can adjust settings like White balance, Stabilisation etc while recording, couldn't on fuji, I couldn't even change focus modes on fuji while recording which I hated 10. it's super reliable so far, I loved my fuji xh2s but it had reliability issues, I encountered some freezing and stuff and the camera not writing to the cards during some wedding photography which was an awful experience, 11. the lenses, at least the lenses that I have on my sony focus way closer than the ones I had on the fuji, the new sigma 24-70mm 2.8 II focuses super closely, wich I personally love, the fuji lenses I mainly used were 18-35 1.8 sigma, 35mm 1.4 (new) fuji, and 56mm 1.2 (new) fuji with the fuji prime lenses i found the manual focusing to be not as smooth as I would like 12. I feel like Slog is a little bit cleaner and flexible than Flog2, (I might be wrong on this one) but in my experience that's what I feel 13. when putting the camera on a gimbal and relying on autofocus, I can put different autofocus settings to choose how quickly the camera switches autofocus, or I can use touch tracking on the screen and the camera tracks the subject

[@GunnarBjarki-nw2oi]

1. Sony has more reliable autofocus, and I can map a button on the camera to toggle between autofocus and manual focus, I can’t do that on the fuji, when it’s recording on fuji you can’t change anything. 2. the 18-35mm 1.8 I used mostly on fuji is like a 26 or 28 - 52.5mm 2.8 so a 24-70mm 2.8 beats that lens every day, 3. full frame, so when I need that shallow dof, that 35mm 1.4 look, I can get it. 4. base iso 800 instead of 1250, I like it, I feel like it’s hard enough to get nd filtering for 800 in bright daylight, so I like it more than 1250 5. low light, nothing can beat 12.800 as a base iso, it’s insane 6. the xlr handle, I can mount a monitor and a sennheizer mke 600 on it without a cage, and if I need to lighten the camera quickly I just unscrew the top handle with my hands, no tools needed, no cage needed 7. I can change my white balance and a few other settings while recording, I couldn’t do that on fuji 8. I might be wrong, but I feel like the sony slog3 image is cleaner 9. from my experience I feel like the sony works better with my external monitor, and I feel like it’s easier to nail focus on it for some reason, not sure why, but I feel that way on the built in screen as well, I can see easier what’s in focus 10. the lenses for sony focus closer than the lenses that I had on fuji,
I had 18-35mm 1.8 I also had 2 native fuji lenses, new ones, 35mm 1.4 and 56mm 1.2, the sigma lenses for sony focus closer 11. fx3 has a fan 12. I had some reliability issues with my fuji, it sometimes froze in the middle of a wedding, I had issues where it didn’t save photos to my cards, Ive had photography issues where i’m shooting the first kiss on the wedding, camera tells me i’m nailing focus, but it’s focusing on the jesus statue in the background, awful experience 13. there is no zoom lens for fuji that compares to a 24-70mm 2.8 on a fullframe camera 14. I can change white balance when recording and stabilisation settings on my sony 15. sony ibis has less wobbly effect in my oppinion, when I shot wide on 18-35mm it had too much wobbles, I also shot on a 13mm viltrox wich was awful in terms of wobbles