Top Five Most Disappointing Video Game Sequels

[@goroakechi6126]

An interesting topic, “Top 5 games forgotten by their creators”

[@eamonndeane587]

Vagrant Story should be on that list. One of Square's best PS1 titles.... and yet they've done NOTHING with that IP for YEARS!!!!

[@cjtherandomizer7638]

Poor SMG 2

[@shadedepeche2556]

@@eamonndeane587 Chrono Trigger knows how that feels...

[@massiveidiot77]

this one is good

[@Trebolt]

Sonic 3 felt like this for the longest time and still kinda does, since we never got an official enhanced port of it

[@meganinten0078]

In my opinion, a dissapointing sequel is worse than a bad game. I still think Devil May Cry 2 needs a remake. I want to play as Lucia again.

[@lewa3910]

I'm not alone? vinDICATION!!!

[@SWad250]

Lucia was the best part of that game. Here’s hoping she can escape.

[@MrRicadams1]

I was more disappointed that Lucia wasn't in Devil May Cry 5 TBH. Still, good to see I'm not only one wanting to play as Lucia again.

[@entruh4520]

Dmc2 remake would be easy money for capcom, they should really do it

[@bobafett4265]

It's possible for a Devil May Cry 2 Remake, I just don't know if Capcom would pull the trigger, maybe we could see the first one getting a remake where it's quality is on par with 3, i know the first one is a bit clunky to come back to after many other action games been released since then including those in the DMC franchise like 3, but yeah the first two with the second game being in a urgent need of a facelift...

[@lazypaladin]

"How do you make a sequel?" Me: Looks at the many Top Ten Easter Eggs Videos Me: *You dont know??*

[@xtiandg0914]

How about Top Five Poorly Sold Games That Later Found Success. So here's something I hope you do because there's a game that fits here that seriously needs attention despite poor sales for a game that came out recently, and it's also an interesting topic. The game I'm talking about is 13 Sentinels, a PS4 Exclusive RTS/Visual Novel that has gone under the radar due to poor marketing on Atlus' part and Sony actively smothering it from being seen with a lot of Japanese games I noticed. While I can't say in the West, in Japan this game sold pretty poorly with 35,000 copies at first and could've been seen as a lost, but after the legends that Masuhiro Sakurai and Yoko Taro praised and love the game and help advertise the game more then Atlus did, it managed to nearly triple the sales and reach over 100,000 copies. Such an inspiring too, because it does show how if the right people manage to give the game attention surely needed, it can turn a grim situation around. Of course many will be pointing Among Us, but I really do think 13 Sentinels need the extra attention for how good the game is.

[@zacharyhefner2208]

Also Among Us , that is a big one

[@xtiandg0914]

Zachary Hefner I mentioned it under my comment after 13 Sentinels.

[@DarkenedAuras7653]

Okami. Started off incredibly weak sales-wise on the PS2 and has now become an incredibly beloved gem that gets ported to a dozen consoles

[@Crazy_Gamer_OG]

Shantae GBC & Freedom Planet are a couple others that sold poorly at launch but are now pretty popular.

[@hellfrozenphoenix13]

Psychonauts fits as well. Despite amazing reviews, people ignored it for about a year and a half before reali,king how unique it is

[@Tyler-sy7jo]

What happened with Dead Rising 4 was an absolute clusterfuck of mismanagement and executive nonsense. Capcom Vancouver were initially given permission to make the next game in the series by Capcom as their past work had impressed Capcom. So much so that Capcom gave them an enormous amount of freedom and only checked back every now and again to see how things were coming along. I think the first time they showed something to the Japanese execs, they were impressed, but then the CEO of Capcom Vancouver left and was replaced by someone who didn't like the direction the game was going. So hey basically had to start over again and when they showed a new demo to Capcom, they looked at it and effectively said "What the hell is this shit?! This... This is NOT Dead Rising." but Capcom allowed them more time to work things out and let them off the hook. Development started getting pulled in a lot of different directions until eventually I think Capcom Japan fired the creative director for general incompetence (I think the director was also showing false trailers to Capcom to cover up how much of a mess the game was turning into). Capcom, once again, gave the studio another chance. Capcom Vancouver then got a new director for the project that had formerly worked as a director at Ubisoft. Guess what his suggestions for the project were? "We need scalable buildings, the game needs to be open world, also a main part of the game should be going around the world to these map stations that you climb up and turn on. Also there should be stealth." I'm...not even kidding. Their new director's "vision" was to turn it into another entry into the Ubisoft: The Game series (Of the Assassin's Creed flavour). This went over really poorly with Capcom Japan and they canned the whole project, feeling their IP was not in as good hands as they thought. Then Capcom Vancouver went out of business, with the majority of the former workers holding no ill will towards Capcom Japan recognizing it was the higher ups at Capcom Vancouver (the various ones that came and went) that caused the project to fail... No wait I think this turned into Dead Rising 5's development hell story at some point...

[@battlep0t]

I actually don't hate the Last of Us 2 but I also think the first game was fine on it's own and didn't need a sequel.

[@TronicSpeed]

One of the many reasons why I'm not buying that game.

[@darklorddiablos7824]

It wasnt that bad of a game. But, well... it did botch up enough crap to make me dislike it a bit too much

[@amirgarcia547]

@@darklorddiablos7824 As a game it’s not all that bad, and if it existed in a vacuum where the first game didn’t exist it’d actualy be pretty good. But since it doesn’t, well...

[@darklorddiablos7824]

@@amirgarcia547 oh yeah, the best way to explain it... it is a very good game, but an awful sequel

[@ForrestFox626]

I hate it. I won't sugar coat it.

[@shadowlinkbds]

It always sucks when a sequel to a great game, movie, franchise, etc ends up being a letdown and sadly there's quite a bit of them out there.

[@Jdudec367]

well...in some games you just can't beat the original

[@Bofrab]

I’m just Happy Ori and the Will of the Wisps was good.

[@TheAngel24]

Here's a topic suggestion: Worst Video Game Translations/Localizations

[@xtiandg0914]

Yes, Ar Tonelico 2 probably should be number 1 for the North America version, which contained a potentially game-breaking bug that the PAL and Japanese version don't have due to sloppy coding the NIS America did which pissed me off considering the effort GUST made for the game. Add in the fanbase went as far as to make a relocalization, something unheard of, and you can see why it's worth mentioning.

[@toshavarnley]

I support this idea, good idea my guy

[@antimatter3084]

Definitely Zero Wing due to the absolutely hilarious first cutscene, Another Code in the US was completely awful as well, and I can't forget the Tokyo Mirage Sessions "localization" that censored the game to the point that context was lost and other regions got less content.

[@jedimasterpickle3]

Fire Emblem Fates....

[@pavlo1207]

For a native speaker it'd be very hard. The worst translation ever is probably the first russian translation of GTA SA. It created a ton of memes. It was done through some oldass translation software that was way too weak. Not only that, it also bugged a lot of stuff, such as the wanted stars not showing and switching the controls for the lowrider mission. My pc could barely run gta sa back in the day and the translation made it 10 times worse.

[@pancakesonrage902]

DMC 2 was the way it was because of the troubling development cycle. The people behind it never made a game the way dmc 2 was supposed to be, it was a no name director who had no clue what he was doing all the way through. Capcom was disappointed with it so they hired someone new. The director after him, (hideaki Itsuno) came in four months before release and tried his best to scramble together what he could

[@entruh4520]

Still a bad game

[@onion69420]

A bad game is still a bad game

[@zoroarkdx4491]

It's fortunate that they bounced back the series though. What it would've been like had it not been given a second chance...

[@Waffletigercat]

Top Secondary Characters that Deserve Their Own Starring Role, please!

[@christopherwallace7903]

Yes! What about top five insignificant NPCs in video games?

[@devinodriscoll]

He did it!!!!

[@SWad250]

From what interviews I’ve seen, most of the shit that Destiny and 2 faced were more because of Activision’s meddling. Not to take it all away from Bungie, but boy them publishers.

[@TourGuideForGame]

I believed that too but then they split from activision and kept doing stuff the playerbase didn't like, so at this point i'd just say they've lost their touch.

[@lShadow426l]

@@TourGuideForGame theres the playerbase and there's the "playerbase" who haven't touched the game since warmind but insist the new additions are shit. It's actually worse because you can *see* good ideas and quality it's just covered in shit because bungie feels the need add some stupid stipulation or blame the engine that was God awful back when it was used for halo 2 and refuse to change engines knowing the problems

[@krisg4085]

If bungie had any say… destiny 2 base game would be “destiny: the red war”… an expansion, like all the WoW expansions

[@logannottheonefrommarvel9917]

Epic Mickey 2 is a personal letdown of mine, the crooked, dark, and dangerous atmosphere of the first game was non existent and Wasteland was nothing without it.

[@donovanboykins1995]

And as for the Co Op mode with Oswald?

[@Whurlpuul]

Oswald almost saved it for me since that was one of his first appearances in years

[@BabafiBafi]

DMC2 was such a mess because it was devoloped at the same time....without Kamiya's direction...or knowledge that it existed.

[@SWad250]

And then thrown at Itsuno with a couple months left to try and salvage it.

[@kennedytwins575]

This video is not a disappointment as a sequel

[@PsychOsmosis]

Obligatory comment that if you're interested in trying the *"Keeps"* sponsor, you should instead ask your doctor to prescribe you Finasteride 5mg, 1/4 of a pill daily. It outright stops androgen-related hair loss and you even regain a small but significant part of your lost hair, and cost literal pennies per pill even if you don't have insurance. PS. Do *NOT* get prescribed the 1mg pill that has hair loss as its only purpose, as it is expensive as hell and not covered by insurance. Source: Am doctor.

[@thekingofrockin7944]

I’ve been interested to hear Raddbidluigi’s thoughts on TLOU2, so this should be interesting. Edit: yeah, that sums up my own thoughts pretty well.

[@amirgarcia547]

@Geralt of Trivia TLOU2’s themes have been done to death already though and been handled *way* better in other games (Lisa the Painful, Red Dead Redemption 2, etc.), and yet it fumbles with the execution so poorly that it ends up being as deep as a puddle. So any oversimplification might as well be an accurate assessment.

[@zacharyhefner2208]

@@amirgarcia547 To me the message was a way too heavy handed and poetry executed "REVENGE, BAD!!!" when going down the path causes a constant loop of violence and death and will likely destroy you in every way.

[@shadedepeche2556]

@Geralt of Trivia What is it the point you’re trying to make here? That TLOU2 does everything a lot of stories we like does (assuming we even like those stories to begin with), so we shouldn’t criticize it for the points we brought because those games do it too? I ask for understanding is all.

[@shadedepeche2556]

@Geralt of Trivia If you spelled out your point, you didn’t do a very good job at it. As for the point itself, here’s my take; I don’t they did a very good job at internal conflict in TLOU2, and as a result the story didn’t do as well as it could’ve.

[@shadedepeche2556]

@Geralt of Trivia I know what sarcasm is Amico...

[@asomelord]

On Halloween I usually play "non horror-horror games". Games what aren't Horror games but delve deep into the themes. Games like Majora's Mask, Persona 3, and Castlevania SotN. Considering your next video will presumably be out the day after Halloween maybe you could do a video like that? Or maybe a list of terrifying moments in non horror games

[@shadedepeche2556]

The Metroid games and Luigi’s Mansion would also be perfect for that list.

[@cipherreese8877]

3:43 Still trying to wrap my head around what the DR4 devs were even referring to when they said they wanted to “return to the series roots.” I mean yeah, they brought back Frank and it’s set in Willamette again, but why was going back to their roots considered so vital anyway? It’s not like the gameplay strayed very far from the original idea by that point. Ironically, the amount of downgraded and removed features is what alienates DR4 from the series roots.

[@sarafontanini7051]

another issue with DMC2 is that it lacks something small but vital for the franchise's identity: the bosses don't talk. the ONLY antagonist in the entire game who speaks is the main antagonist, every other boss? Not a word, not even the one who has lore about being an ancient rival of Dante's father but NAH we can't have him TALK, so all the bosses seemingly come out of nowhere and have no story or personality to them. Think about how different DMC1 would be if every boss' introductory cutscene cut out all the dialogue. it's a small thing, as I said, but its a pretty noticible flaw indicative of howw the devs didn't really care all that much about how the first game did things.

[@daviddiaz-dixon6622]

Hey Rabbidluigi, I have a suggestion for a video in the future, top 5 least memorable bosses in video games.

[@sarahebris]

5: Starring Frank West's less popular cousin, Hank East! 4. Question out of curiosity, is DMC2 considered better or worst than DMC Devil May Cry? 3. Screw you Activision 2. Haven't really got much to say on this other than please stop all the hate on Laura Bailey 1. .......Screw you Activision

[@SWad250]

DmC is functional on the initial difficulty. 2 needs to be on hard to even resemble a game.

[@angel-of-light-kelly1355]

DMC Devil May Cry more annoys and frustrates fans due to the creative choices they made, though the gameplay at least can be fun. It at least has parts people like to play. Devil May Cry 2 is just boring due to lack of difficulty, the boring level design, how they portrayed Dante, and other things. Which game is worse depends on if you find boring games worse than frustrating game decisions. Though 2 is the reason why 3 didn’t sell as much early on.

[@pippo17173]

Dmc is a decent experience as someone who didnt play the original games. Now that I have play it, ya still enjoyable then DMC 2 which is a snooze fest.

[@ForrestFox626]

Laura Bailey deserves our respect.

[@dobadobadooo]

I'd say the worst _and_ most disappointing sequel I've ever played was Paper Mario: Sticker Star. Absolutely awful game, and Nintendo still hasn't managed to bring the series back to form since.

[@gaming.chungus]

I didn't play lou2 mainly because I really didn't like the first one

[@wariodude128]

From what I've heard when it comes to TLoU part Deux, it sounds like someone in the storytelling department took a month long vacation when they were putting all of the bits together. Because I think if you had played as the bad guy first, or went back and forth between them and Joel, then somebody's death wouldn't have been as terrible.

[@shadedepeche2556]

That makes sense... that would explain why the story’s structure is a mess.

[@ForrestFox626]

That is one of many problems storytelling wise

[@SunburstSenshi]

Metroid Prime: Federation Force? Technically a sequel and we all know how disappointing that one was. Or make a “Top Games from Big Franchises Forgotten Within A Month” and put Metroid: Samus Returns at the top there. That game deserves more love than Nintendo themselves gave it. Almost no advertisements for it and was omitted from the E3 direct in favor of showing it off in the Treehouse when everyone stopped watching. Reggie had to tweet about people needing to watch the treehouse for a big announcement for literally anyone to actually know Metroid Samus Returns was a game that was coming out. Oh and they released it like a month after “announcing” it. Sad times for Metroid fans.

[@williamcote4208]

About destiny 2: the guys who forced the game to come out in that state was ACTIVISION

[@BowsettesFury]

TLoU2 is how you kill a franchise, plain and simple. #phuknaughtydog

[@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32]

13:14 Actually you could always give them 3 years like with platinum games and what they did for Nier so naughty dog could crank out something super special

[@meganinten0078]

The Hawk flew again.

[@smartboy201]

DR4, yikes. I got into the series hella-late, DR3 to be exact, and had a lot of fun with the psychopaths in that game; I'm a sucker for "7 Deadly Sins"-themes. It only took a few days for me to learn that DR4 lacked those Psychopaths that really added so much more to the game. It's one thing to be disappointed in a concept being taken in an unfortunate direction, but when it's been so neutered, to no longer resemble what it was, that's just a special kind of pain.

[@GameGod77]

Thank you for the spoiler warning on TLOU2. I still wanna watch a let's play of it for myself just haven't found the time yet.

[@sullivans2004]

‘New Super Mario Bros. 2’, which tbh really should have been a Wario Land game.

[@cubedmelons876]

To be fair, no one had high expectations for NSMB2.

[@TheLemonyBard]

How about “Top Five Games Out of Place in their Series”? You could talk about stuff like genre switches or tone changes, and it doesn’t have to be all negative.

[@AnthonyMiller-007]

Maybe a video with enemy types? Top Five Grunts in Games or Top Five Enemy Variations in Videogames?

[@kid14346]

The ending statement about F-ZERO filled me with dread

[@SakuraAvalon]

Relax. It will never happen, as there will never be another F-Zero game.

[@craftymasterproductions4218]

4:13 I thought this was supposed to be a Dead Rising game, not a Dead Space game.

[@DJGamingSmash]

I haven't played tLoU:P2, but from what I hear, it just sounds like the original NieR, only if they replaced everything good with actual shit.

[@iisanulquiorrahara8]

Having played, and loved, NieR when I played through to every ending on the PS3.. that's entirely wrong?

[@Howitchewstofeel5gum]

Man that was one smooth transition into the sponsorship 😉

[@danielturner1891]

I swear. This guy really knows how to slip in a transition.

[@newbiegamelover4767]

Who all knew that The Last of Us 2 was gonna be on here?

[@shadedepeche2556]

Oh great, you triggered the people who think TLOU2 is a flawless masterpiece by simply attempting to criticize it.

[@MegaPokefan97]

That's literally the first thing I point out when talking about Ras Ass 2

[@TheAuron32]

its like those loonies cant seem to realise that screaming like they do only HARMS the product indirectly, like why would care for something when the fans are so insane and crazy? not going to make me listen to them. but the main thing that put me off even TRYING it? Sony and Naughty Dogs reaction to people who SPOKE about the leaks, even those who didnt even use on single still image got struck, you don't weaponize the copy right system like that and get my money.

[@antimatter3084]

Honestly, I'm just tired of hearing about the Last of Us part 2. It became the SAO of the gaming sphere where everybody raced to make the same talking points over and over again, and you need to be apart of the black and white dichotomy of either hating or loving the game. I found it middle of the road, I don't think its some sjw fantasy like some people(I can't stand anti-SJW channels) while not really a 10 out of 10 masterpiece either.

[@shadedepeche2556]

@@antimatter3084 You, my good sir, are a sane individual capable of rational thought. I commend you for that.

[@hamidmehrdad5805]

It's funny because I don't see many comments acting offended but whenever someone says something positive about it in a video, haters get triggered and comment about how dare the person like such a "trash game" or whatever they say, tell them they have terrible taste, and some people say they'll unsubscribe.

[@HimeRiolu]

It needs to be stated that Destiny 2 releasing in the state it was, was largely down to Activision forcing a sequel

[@jtd66]

It's weird hearing the 1080 snowboard song playing over #1. Also, surprised that Star Fox Zero isn't on here.

[@landoftom332]

I still dont know how I feel about The Last of Us Part Two. Months later.

[@Dr.Crusader0138]

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[@Diamond1234]

13:57 Isn't that skating game series supposed to be a meme where it's glitchy as heck? But yeah, agreed about TLOU2, goodness that one's a mess, I pretend it doesn't exist now because of this guilt-tripping thing lol. It's a lot frustrating to feel such a disconnect between you and Ellie. Would've been nice to have player choice and be able to not do the vengeance thing, lol.

[@amirgarcia547]

@Geralt of Trivia Apples to oranges, pally. The difference between all of those things is the execution, which TLOU2 entirely botched. Spec Ops works because it’s meant to be a deconstruction of FPS’s and so makes you play as an unlikable and delusional asshole who *thinks* he’s the hero, but actually isn’t. Shadow of the Colossus works because its twist doesn’t come until the very end of the game, so up until that point you wouldn’t know the truth about the colossi unless you were spoiled beforehand. And lastly, the first TLOU1’s ending worked because it reinforced the game’s main theme (that the characters aren’t good people, but simply survivors in a shitty and unforgiving world) and potentially left the door open for a sequel as well. Meanwhile TLOU2 tries to tell you how much of a bad person you are for murdering people and aninals despite it being the only option to dispatch of them. At least stealth games give you the option to incapacitate enemies. Hell, even Undertale did this way better because you have the choice to spare monsters instead of killing them, so when it demeans you for murdering enemies left and right, it’s *actually* your fault. Instead of the game trying to poorly convince you that it is.

[@tacohands4203]

I never took the last of us 2 as trying to demean you or make you feel bad. I took it as, there are always two sides to every story, and each story has its own lives in it. I think the last of us 2 does an amazing job of creating many many situations from both angles, and then showing that nothing, and I mean nothing. Is black and white. And also, if you beat the game. You actually get to the point to where revenge has actually saved many peoples lives and potentially started a revolution for maybe some good people. Again. I think people mistook what this game is going for, but again. It always comes down to opinion! That’s the bitch of art! No one is technically right or wrong. It’s all how it speaks to you personally

[@amirgarcia547]

@Geralt of Trivia No, because like I said, they handled those aspects well because they knew what it wanted to be. One is a deconstruction, and the other tries to entirely change how you’ve viewed the game up until that point. TLOU2 on the other hand wears its themes of the cycle of revenge and it creating unnecessary violence on its sleeve from beginning to end, and thusly suffers as a result due to not giving the player a choice to combat it. Instead, it boils down to “you did this bad thing despite being given no other alternative, so you should feel bad!!!” And there’s scripted events in the game where you can’t progress without killing others, such as Abby’s dog and her friends, but sure, let’s pretend that you can go through the entire game being a pacifist. And while I haven’t played Ghost of Tsushima, from what I understand in that game you have the option to fight honorably, and fighting stealthily or picking off enemies in sneaky ways is generally seen as dishonorable. I’m more so talking about traditional stealth games such as MGS or Splinter Cell, where you can take out enemies without pumping bullets into them or hacking them to pieces, unlike in TLOU. Also, imagery and sound design alone won’t fully convey the truth behind the colossi until it reveals it near the end. Unless, like I said, you were spoiled beforehand. And last but not least, it doesn’t matter whether a character is “pre-written” or not if the game is going to act morally superior to you without giving the option to go a different route. Frisk might be a blank slate and Ellie a pre-established character, but Undertale calling you a monster or making you feel guilty for your actions works because you have an option to change them at any point in the game. But in TLOu2, by making the story entirely linear and robbing any form of player agency whatsoever, it creates a dissonance between the gameplay and the story due to one entirely contradicting the other. I’m not saying TLOU2 100% needed narrative choices, since the first game worked entirely fine without them, even with its ending. But if you’re gonna try and make the player feel guilt yet make the game equivalent to a movie, then it might as well be deep as a puddle as a result. It’s ironc that you’d have a character from a game as your avatar that actually allows you to be either as bad or good as the game makes you out to be based on your actions, but I digress. I’ll just simply leave you with this overly long comment you most likely won’t read and big you adieu.

[@Gannon373]

@Geralt of Trivia People got so stuck on this idea that the game was somehow judging them as a person that they lost all ability to actually look at the game's story beyond that, and I have no idea why. Personally I think it did a better job of communicating its themes than Spec Ops, which I also really like.

[@marhawkman303]

@@Gannon373 I think the core of the issue is that in TLOU2 the game TALKS about how choices matter and how you don't have to hurt others.... while enforcing a linear narrative. The story just feels like it's asking you to make choices, but only giving you one option... and that option is a bad choice. Spec Ops wasn't about choice, but about morality and whether you can justify your actions. Also... the story's tone is different in that you don't(as the player) actually know how many atrocities you've committed. That's not revealed until the ending.

[@mr.e9502]

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[@kevincmejia]

You forgot to mention that CAPCOM fucked up by not involving anyone from the first DMC game and making it behind Kamiya's back, it was a mess because the team had no clue what made the first one interesting

[@GoldLight73]

DMC2 actually makes a fair bit of since when you consider that the reigns to the project were handed off to three different people over the course of development.

[@MrRicadams1]

I heard that at one point DMC2 wan't originally designed as a sequel to DMC, but was instead going to be a different IP altogether.

[@Ramsey276one]

Who thought playing hot potato with a commercial product was a good idea?!

[@GoldLight73]

@@Ramsey276one Capcom Execs

[@mortemtyrannus8813]

Prey 2. Not because the sequel was in any way bad, but because it was cancelled, and then replaced with a Prey remake that had more in line with System Shock than Prey. God damn it, I wanted my space bounty hunter simulator.

[@CriticalState]

The one sequel I absolutely hate, to this day, was Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of a New World/ Knights of Ratatosk. It took away every single thing that made the original so compelling, and added two extremely bland main characters. Instead of permanent party members, added monsters that worked as Pokémon/Digimon partners, no open world map, and then completely changed elements of the first instalment to add their own "new" spirits and summons that drove the plot, who were supposedly there "all along". I find it to be one of the only games that I can't justify it's existence simply because they just added a completely new world that piggybacked off of the original and added an ending that made little to no sense in regards to the world they had set up. I get frustrated just thinking about it.

[@dblczx6819]

Your evaluation of Destiny 2 is... fair. It hurts to hear, since I love this game (just look at my profile picture of my Titan), but I can't deny that they made mistakes along the way... especially during its early years. I'd blame Activision rushing them... but at the same time, Bungie can't avoid all of the blame. It's a better game, now, and with its expansion releasing next week, I think it's going to get even better... unless I'm dead wrong.

[@EGCs_3_year_old_Channel]

LittleBigPlanet 3. It launched as a glitchy mess. The most important part, the online, was also broken. It managed to kill the entire community built up from the first two titles.

[@unarmedinsmash7857]

Big fan of LOUI2 here, who can't resist to give a long defense speech ;). People have all the right to be disappointed and I'm not claiming there is something wrong or bad about that, but I can't help but feel RabbidLuigi oversimplified the themes. Calling LOU2 a "simple revenge plot", and nothing more, is like calling the Godfather a simple "mafia is bad" plot, Last Airbender a simple "good guys take down bad guys" plot, or saying the ending of LOU1 is a simple "don't be selfish" message shoved down your throat. The story is a morally gray one that shows how 'good' and 'bad' are a matter of perspective. Common enemies to Ellie might be close to someone else and vice versa. The game cleverly uses your love for Joel as a means to encourage Ellie to take drastic actions, because that's what I wanted to do too: kill the bastards that took down Joel. But during Abby's campaign, I started to care about her and her friends, letting go of that initial anger and ask myself whether it was really all that justified to take them all down. Instead of choosing a side, it shows both sides of the story with no clear good or bad guy. It also deals with themes of dealing with trauma, giving things a place and finding new meaning. As you see with Abby, she learned that killing Joel solved nothing for her later down the line. From her point of view, there is nothing to be gained to continue the pursuit with Ellie. Ellie unfortunately wasn't able to let go due to the painfully accurate way this game portrays her PTSD: she wasn't able to life a normal life due to the endless flashbacks, no matter how hard she tried. People with severe PTSD often can feel like hurting those who were responsible for the pain might be a way to reduce/relieve the pain. It's only in the very end, when the forceful memories stop being of Joel suffering and change into a peaceful memory with Joel, that she is able to snap back to reality and take a moment to cry it out. Realizing how she gains nothing from fighting Abby. Ellie just wanted the flashbacks to go away, letting go and life a normal life, but she wasn't able to. Abby tried to move on after her revenge, but couldn't for the longest time. It's really a journey about 2 opposite, yet similar, characters that learn to accept their traumas and move on. Trying to find meanings in new things after years of emptiness and anger. So yeah. Had to throw that out.

[@fritzy8318]

Tl;dr

[@marhawkman303]

I think the problem is that it's a heavy story game, where... you're basically watching a movie. If you don't like the movie? Welp... you won't like the game.

[@LegoAssassin13]

For me it must be Mafia 3. I loved Mafia 1 & 2 so the third one was really disappointing

[@eamonndeane587]

That is a game that should have had all of its DLC built into it already. With the DLC, it's actually Pretty good.

[@nicholasfarrell5981]

2:25 - sorry, but you'll need to buy me dinner before we do that.

[@LadyLeomon]

For me the most disappointing sequel that I’ve played would have to be Drakengard 2, the cutscenes in-between levels were just terrible: static avatars instead of animated, the characters were all boring except for the main guy and the Dragon and the man guy’s secret origin (that he was the child of the previous bad guy and his lady love who fused into one being and was raised by that guy’s Black Dragon who in turn killed his mother’s parents) wasn’t even touched on in the game but in some obscure art book that never made it out of Japan! Funnily enough though Drakengard 3 was pretty great! Thanks for the new vid RabbidLuigi 💙🐱💙

[@SWad250]

You can really tell Taro had little to no hands in Drakengard 2.

[@TheBlueLink3]

I actually really like Drakengard 2.

[@wackyjacky7259]

Yes I 100% agree that The Last of Us 2 was a very disappointing sequel. It sucked.

[@Nitomoth]

Those Dead Space 3 transitions cut deep. Easily the most disappointing sequel I've played.

[@DraigoDragon]

even though i didn't like the series itself, i am still expecting it's sequel on the list... Edit: GOOD!!!

[@zacharyhefner2208]

I said and explained it many times before. But TLOU2 is basically The Last Jedi of the series. I mean it basically messed up any chances a potential direct sequel could have . If there is going to be a TLOU2. It likely is going to be damage coktrol' heavy character retconning and other stuff that will shoot it in the foot

[@TheBrutalSax]

Not to mention, the reaction to both titles are pretty much identical. Got people who just hate it and get angry, got people who love it and get angry. And people on both sides who make it political

[@randomclustermissile8701]

Honourable mention: Life is Strange 2. Don't get me wrong - I liked the second game. But it is so far removed from LIS 1 that it pretty much shouldn't even be in the same franchise. LIS was a cute, slightly cringey, story between two friends (and potentially lovers) which becomes an emotional journey which delves into pretty traumatic discussions. Lis 2 is just nothing but horrific torment and trauma for the protagonists the entire time. There are hardly ever any good moments between any of the characters. The beginning of episode 5 was probably the only happy part of the entire game

[@DeadBaron]

nah Part 2 is definitely a bad game, not just disappointing. They tried to be as edgy as possible and alienated their entire playerbase

[@nintentwins1867]

Top 5/10 Visual Novels. There is a lot to quality stories to chose from

[@cavifax]

15:37 Star Fox: first time, huh?

[@stoagymahalo5268]

12:50 I agree. FACT is they PLANNED to have it with Joel initially surviving the attack and for Ellie to make that choice to go out and attack to STOP and PREVENT a 2nd attack, where at the end it was supposed to come to the conclusion "you'd just come after us still". Where depending how you treated the living, Joel is saved by one the people you spared or killed by the same person or just dies of his wounds to show the depth of compassion.

[@marhawkman303]

Hmmm so maybe part of the reason for the story feeling a bit nonsensical is that it was originally written with more nuance, but they didn't have time to actually make the game that complex? If the final confrontation in the game was a reflection of player choices and had multiple meaningfully different ways to play out? hmm....

[@stoagymahalo5268]

@@marhawkman303 Oh right. To explain, it wouldn't have been so intricate, but fact is the "otherside" would have originally played out as Joel and Ellie gameplay (where I read supposed to been flashbacks or parallels) Where I'm sure those decision based parts were the wishes if completing, but the fact is the main portion was changed to pandering considering Sony's recent "influence" occuring the last 3 years were offputting so they instead doubled down. I mean the Multiplayer doesn't feel "rushed" but you can clearly see points where if you pictured Joel and Ellie instead of (I forget those 2 body swapped character s' names) their replacements in the situation, it make more sense toward the end with Ellie sitting down with a Guitar. Where she started to learn to be more guarded and protective over those she loves, GAH I wish I could break it down more better but it really was a great romp through the who situation where the "choice" would have came down to either shooting the villain and follow Joel with (audio datamined) Ellie saying "you'll just come after us." and popping a round in the bad guy/girl or sparing and I forget what happened with that. BUT instead, it was a complete revamp of story since they had mechanics and graphics down, it was the pressure on the writing staff to "sell more to the minority groups" simply because the story was already written up and they were tasked to fillin the minor roles and scenes. It was a huge report just to be taken down because those same writers went all over social media bashing the report as anti this and that, it just saddens me the road that game went down -_-. Tho that's the part I was more bummed over about and totally get where you're coming from still.

[@marhawkman303]

@@stoagymahalo5268 Oh I see. Yeah certain aspects of the story didn't make sense. Like why is one of the NPC groups violently anti-Trans? It's just an illogical story beat.

[@stoagymahalo5268]

@@marhawkman303 No kidding, its just one those off years/ages where they HAVE to let the younger writers or (relatives) others to write something, though now it means CHANGING everything. Its like a new age thing of "oh you REALLY like this, well then before we give you it, you can buy this and tell everyone how awesome our new employees worked on it otherwise if you speak any negative, we might just have to shut down or stop production all together".

[@stoagymahalo5268]

​@@marhawkman303 I get what you mean too, it would have just logically make sense that they just weren't followers of the cult instead of "oh you're specifically a girl wanting to be a guy", even though they were roughly in the same are as Ellie and Joel. The Geography wouldn't make sense either since that would mean Joel would have gone over and KILLED that cult around that same time to keep ellie safe. Its boggling.

[@ethanbell6762]

If you could make one change to TLoU2 to improve the storytelling, you should have Ellie kill Abby. The message of "Revenge bad! Forgive good!" Doesn't necessarily work if you end up sparing and pretend the entire thing is resolved. You kill a LOT of people in TLoU2. Who's to say none of THEIR family members want revenge?

[@imaginaryinkorporated5935]

Dang, and here I was hoping NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams would at least get a mention...

[@sharzinlalebazri5673]

I'm a simple man. I see people shitting on TLOU2. I click the like button.

[@emalinedickinson7492]

I think, out of all the reviews and criticism surrounding TLOU2, I really enjoyed your commentary the best. 1 had themes to unpack and stick with you, whilst 2 just had shock/gross outs and the central idea that "anger and revenge = bad".

[@Ex-D-]

"Top 5 best games abandoned for a sequel"

[@GBA-049]

"I'm predicting X7 to be included on this list" *Revealing plays* "Alright an X7 track used as a hint for dishonorable mention works too"

[@Ramsey276one]

Considering what I just watched... LTG getting CHARBROILED XD

[@ratchetxtreme6591]

Are these sequels the most disappointing things since Son ?

[@metafeta5788]

Paper Mario Sticker Star was a huge disappointment that the series never truly recovered from

[@masterindra7604]

There are quite a few reasons DMC2 ended up how it did, mainly the people behind the product were different during the game. Hell we don't even know who the original main driving force of the game was because he got kicked 3/4ths of the way out of development.

[@donutsuego]

You know DR4 was an absolute shitshow when a huge fan of the series didn't even know there WAS a 4th installment( technically 5th, I know I know ) of the franchise. IE; Me. I had no gotdamn clue until someone brought it up to me literally a week ago.

[@TheBlank49]

SW Knights of the Old Republic 2, I liked it well enough, but it's not even close to the 1st game. Compared to its predecessor it is quite disappointing.

[@MrRicadams1]

KOTOR 2 had some good ideas, but it's another example of a game being rushed out before it was properly finished. More proof that the videogame industry *never* learns.

[@creeprnsidelink]

The countdown screen got me thinking about it and Dead Space 3 was also quite a letdown since they suddenly introduced well, micro-transactions. Dead Space 1 had an amazing story and a terrifying atmosphere that kept you on your toes, with Dead Space 2 having a great story but they eased up on the horror, but it was still there. Dead Space 3 had a interesting but good story, but it feels like they removed the true terror and atmosphere that made Dead Space so great and they made it so paying with real money got you with better stuff in the game. I doubt it but if they do make another Dead Space game, please let it be more like the original.

[@sarafontanini7051]

of cours eone of the things that screwed over 4 was how they kinda decided that this corrupt business executive who seemed to be being built up as the ultimate big bad should instead be killed off in DR3 (and also remove her evil aspects for no reason) in order to make the girl frank helps survive in the first game into some sort of antagonist for some reason? I could be misremembering anyway the point is that they kinda fucked up a decently well placed building block for the story to follow through only to shit all over it for something much weaker.

[@ShadowEclipex]

The reason why Destiny 2 came out so soon after Destiny 1 and all of the other issues they had at launch is because of Activision. Activision had a contract for them saying that they needed to release a new game every 3 years, and they were the ones who forced Bungie to make Eververse as predatory as it was. Luckily Bungie left Activision and was able to keep a hold of Destiny's IP and are focusing on improving and supporting D2 instead of trying to release D3. Activision just loves ruining franchises with their Predatory practices.

[@meikahidenori]

I'd love to see a video about how fans wruined their own game franchises. Devs do listen to their fans feed back good and bad and sometimes listening to fans can be good, but there's plenty where listening to fans have trashed the game.

[@genon2777]

Five Nights at Freddy's should make that list

[@alijahaskew4644]

@@genon2777 Really? How?

[@fritzy8318]

How does one ‘wruin’ something exactly.

[@genon2777]

@@alijahaskew4644 If people like MatPat didn't do theories and fans supported it, the serles would have been over for a long time ago.

[@alijahaskew4644]

@@genon2777 And that is bad because?

[@shawnheatherly]

From how absolutely horrible Pro Skater 5 was and how excellent the 1+2 remake was, I don't think anyone can predict what Pro Skater 6 will be like. It's anywhere from hilariously terrible to actually incredible.

[@kyethememer9836]

I'm glad that Cold Steel 2 wasnt on this list because I loved the heck out of it, it's my current favorite Trails game (I've only played the Cold steel games, but plan to play Sky at some point). People seemed to hate this game for some reason and I dont get why.

[@sherrdreamz7232]

Many cite the pacing, like the long chapter you are just going into elemental dungeons to get ore. It helped me to take a few months break halfway through but I liked CS2 overall. To compare i have never felt inclined to take a break in the Trails series. COLDSTEEL IV HYPE!

[@DevilHunter1994]

Honestly I don't think any Trails game should be anywhere near a list like this. Trails in the Sky The 3rd is easily my least favorite of the games brought over to the west and even that game is still a great RPG in its own right. As for Cold Steel 2, I think a lot of people took issue with the fact that despite the game taking place in war time, not very much death was actually seen and outside of a few setbacks, things did seem to go very well for our protagonists throughout the adventure. Personally though this didn't bother me, since there was an actual reason for why things were going so well for us and by the end, the game pretty much tells us that we were being played like a goddamn fiddle from the very beginning.

[@mistermaxie6487]

TLOU2 is good as a game, but I can't stand it as a sequel. I don't even consider it personally canon at this point. I don't really care how shallow that makes me.

[@metashade4218]

Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon, nuff said Luigi's Mansion 3 is great though. That was a huge improvement over Dark Moon.

[@ThundagaT2]

How about a top 5 games doomed to never have a sequel, not sure if you did that yet.

[@Pulsar2013]

Best games to play for each month of the year Top 5 underused settings in video games Top 5 ugliest controller colors Schemes/themes Top 5 franchises you’d wish to get into but don’t feel you have the time for Top 5 worst patches in online games ( contenders include buffing mercy in overwatch and nerfing ion in Titanfall 2)

[@hamidmehrdad5805]

For the franchises one, it'd have to be Persona. I really want to play them but they seem like such huge games so I haven't played one yet.

[@Pulsar2013]

@@hamidmehrdad5805 same, oh also devil may cry, yes I know shame on me.

[@Altoryu]

@@hamidmehrdad5805 I hear people say that 5 is probably the most accessible of the series since it has a lot of QoL improvements that previous games in the series didn't, like the fact that all party members get EXP now instead of just those in your current party.

[@rockys201]

I don't think anyone was quite prepared for how badly written The Last Of Us 2 was.

[@angus3826]

What happened with Destiny 2 is a bit more complicated than "Bungie fucked up."

[@OliyTC]

Surprised Dark Souls 2 didn't make it on here. From what I've heard it's not very good.

[@conorburke1999]

8:32 "a wiste of time or money"

[@fritzy8318]

The fucks a wiste

[@LargeToastie]

Dead Rising 4 is the worst one for me. I remember disliking Dead Rising 3 at first but now I can't help but appreciate it a little more. Now I'm pretty sure the Dead Rising franchise isn't coming back.

[@shii5795]

I tried playing Dead Rising 4, but it refuses to launch on my PC. Guess that's no loss.

[@amirgarcia547]

If it were up to me TLOU2 would definitely be #1, since I don’t think I’ve ever been more let down by a game due to TLOU1 being one of my favorite games I’ve ever played. But Pro Skater 5 is probably the biggest downgrade when it comes to a sequel within a series, so I can see why that’d claim the gold. I’ll admit, in a technical/gameplay aspect, TLOU2 isn’t all that bad and actually quite impressive. But that story and writing...holy moly, is it dogshiet... The best way to sum it up is what I wrote in an old KZbin comment, which’s “It’s like a movie that tries to fault the viewer for their actions, while at the same time preaching about how smart it is while making so many textbook mistakes in writing 101 that you’d wonder how this even made it past the drafting phase.”

[@marhawkman303]

I heard the story got a massive re-write part way through development. Apparently the original plan was to have a branching narrative that cared about player choices, but instead of finishing that they scrapped most of the story and scrambled to cobble together a passable story on a tight deadline. Normally videogame crunch is just kidna... there, but in this case it's fully the fault of management pushing an edict for a major change late in development.

[@gerrion25]

Rabbid forgot one important detail on #3... ...Activision-Blizzard, regarding money-hungry deadlines.

[@MetallicD3ath]

I know the FDA is the food and drug administration, but I really don't ever think of them as associated with anything other than food. So hearing "this hair care product is approved by the FDA" always throws me for a loop. I feel like disappointing sequels are easy to end up doing, because depending on your reputation, you might need to *exceed* the original game to not be disappointing. You can't just squish out the same thing again. It's funny, because I recently saw someone talking about how New Super Mario Bros was one of the best games on whichever console, I think it was the Wii. But in my opinion, that was a disappointing game. Not because it was bad, no, it followed the tried and true formula of the original Mario games and was perfectly serviceable. It's disappointing because it's coming off the back of games like Sunshine and Galaxy, or if you want to look at 2d games, we've already gotten the far superior Super Mario World and Yoshi's Island. Even Galaxy 2 was a disappointment to me personally because it had no story substance, mario head spaceship hub was unimpressive, and tubba blubba luma felt like a joke. But it's serviceable, it didn't kill or *almost* kill the franchise, so it doesn't go on a list like this. Disappointment is comparative though, and I don't know that DMC2, for example, fits without hindsight. Was DMC1 popular enough and quality enough for DMC2 to really be a disappointment, or does it only feel disappointing because we know where the series has gone since then? Wouldn't that make DMC2 more of a disappointing prequel? ...are disappointing prequels interesting enough of a video topic?

[@Ramsey276one]

FDA? They want me to EAT SHAMPOO now?! XD Same with TFA Tobacco and FIREARMS? Why did you put those two together?

[@marhawkman303]

@@Ramsey276one haha, I think it had to do with law enforcement methods, and not so much the actual laws.

[@Ramsey276one]

@@marhawkman303 as a kid I would probably never DARE TO drink/smoke knowing GUN COPS are enforcing those laws! XD

[@marhawkman303]

@@Ramsey276one Enh it makes more sense when you think of the Prohibition era.

[@carmel9583]

Dead Rising 4 was the reason we didn’t get a multi platform 3 or a 5

[@Dudeman23rd]

I HEAR THAT X7 MUSIC, THANK YOU

[@EventH0riz0n]

Yeah in comparison to TLoU1 the second part is dogshit. I hate that story soooo much.

[@austinmorrison6953]

If only the bosses were more cinematic in Dead Rising 4. I still like it but it definitely could’ve been better.

[@XenoSonic1]

Oh wow, there's already a dislike

[@GamingWarlord64]

Now that's dissapointing

[@artur24able]

Most likely from brainless hardcore Last of us 2 fans. I honestly expected more dislikes from them, what a disappointment.