TOP TEN Christmas Traditions (& their Origin Stories)

[@iqgustavo]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🎄 *Christmas traditions often face claims of pagan origins, but historical data reveals little to no paganism in Christmas.* 00:42 🐐 *Krampus, often linked to pagan deities, actually originated from European folk traditions and plays, not pagan tales.* 02:48 🔥 *Yule logs, associated with paganism, lack evidence of a connection; the term "yule" is a general word with multiple meanings.* 04:52 💏 *Kissing under mistletoe dates back to the 18th century, with no clear pagan origin; mistletoe was a Christmas decoration in England.* 05:59 🌟 *Nativity scenes were introduced by Saint Francis of Assisi in 1223, not as pagan imitations but as holiday decorations.* 06:28 🎁 *Gift-giving, often linked to paganism, replaced an older custom in the 1840s and has diverse cultural roots, not necessarily pagan.* 07:25 🧦 *Hanging stockings, with uncertain origins, likely evolved from European folk traditions, possibly related to Saint Nicholas.* 08:35 🎅 *Santa Claus originated from Saint Nicholas, not pagan deities; the modern image evolved over time, influenced by various cultures.* 10:55 🎄 *Christmas trees have unclear origins, with no evidence of a pagan ritual connection; first depictions date back to Alsace, France, in 1576.* 13:41 📅 *The date of December 25th for Christmas has no strong evidence of a pagan takeover; early Christians associated it with Jesus' conception.* 17:57 🚫 *Despite rumors, there is no evidence that Christmas or its traditions derive from paganism; many modern customs evolved independently.*

[@KillerofGods]

10. 0:42 Krampus 9. 2:41 Yule Logs 8. 4:46 Mistletoe 7. 5:48 Nativity Scene 6. 6:27 Gift giving 5. 7:21 Stockings 4. 8:24 Santa Claus 3. 10:04 Father Christmas 2. 10:43 Christmas Trees 1. 13:31 December 25th

[@joshuadunford3171]

To IP, his family, and to everyone reading this Merry Christmas to you

[@Saint_nobody]

Thanks, back at ya. Merry Christmas to you and yours, brother.

[@misterauctor7353]

Merry Christmas.

[@stever507]

Happy holidays and stay safe 😉

[@CALAMITYGURULASTDAYS]

@@stever507 Merry Christmas Jesus is the Only reason for this HolyDay

[@inukithesavage828]

You too!

[@xgamerx01]

I got in an argument with my pagan friend about this and he made me watch that “Adam ruins everything” episode and I admitted defeat… I now have a response and am going to make him watch this. Thank you so much

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

Do it, that episode was riddled with problems. Adam didn't even provide proper citations that checked out. He should be ashamed since he set himself up as a fact-checker.

[@Saint_nobody]

@@InspiringPhilosophy well according to a recent legal document, fact checkers are merely opinions... At least for Facebook. Be that as it may, I stopped seeing any relevance in that Adam after Steven Crowder of all people debunked that fool, years ago.

[@Frodojack]

There are A LOT of episodes of Adam Ruins Everything that are riddled with problems. The shows are often propaganda disguised as history.

[@ythatesfacts]

wait are you guys talking about College Humor? I didn't realise that something that was (last I heard) supposedly satiracle could attempt to make a statement.

[@mikewilliams6025]

NEVER TRUST ADAM RUINS EVERYTHING. He is a hack and I'm not sure he's gotten one thing right to date.

[@austinapologetics2023]

I had a friend tell me Santa Clause is Odin a few days ago. I'll definitely send him this.

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

Do it!

[@Saint_nobody]

Odin was never so kind. Nor do I suspect the old gray one would have any want to be either. That is to say, comparing the Norse chieftain to jolly saint Nick should be more insulting to pagans than Christians.

[@DarkSolidity]

Are you sure? Santa is an amalgamation of several different types of lore. Do you know why Santa comes down the chimney?

[@DarrenGedye]

@@DarkSolidity that was addressed in the video. Didn't you watch it?

[@ShalemAhava]

I’ve never heard of that one 😂, even though I think it’s wrong to lie to your kids about Santa Claus, but that claim is just ridiculous

[@igornesterov4669]

A little correction - Orthodox Church celebrates Christmas on December 25th by Julian calendar. It is difference between Julian and Gregorian calendars that moves Orthodox Christmas to January 7th by Gregorian calendar

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

Thank you

[@slft47]

Why yall even celebrate any pagan traditions at all?☠️i thought yous wernt catholics and have formed away from catholocism

[@Amencore]

@@slft47 looks like someone didn’t watch the video

[@slft47]

@@Amencore ive studied into the origins of the catholic church teachings and doctrines and history, and ive also studied into the roots/origins of christmas, i watched the video but to me it seems he has not much knowledge of christmas

[@slft47]

@Prasanth Thomas if its not biblical then its paganism

[@FozzyBBear]

In the past I've cited Tertullian of Carthage to debunk this nonsense, but in future I'll share this video as most people today are only semi-literate. Thank you again for another well-researched video.

[@markmcflounder15]

Hey Fozzy I'm curious about those quotes. And, if you like this subject William Federer's research is really engaging. He goes fairly in depth from Nicolas to the modern era of the roots of Xmas & Santa Claus. Even Xmas comes from Christ. It's from the Greek letter representing Christ. Blessings Fizzy 'Wokka wokka wokka

[@amsterdamG2G]

Tertullian is not the Word

[@minasoliman]

@@amsterdamG2G neither are you or any of those who still spew the nonsense that Christmas is from a pagan origin

[@misseli1]

I've always been aware that there were many misconceptions about Christmas being generally "pagan" but many of these seem like people are grasping at straws. I wasn't even aware of half of the misconceptions reviewed in this video. People claiming gift-giving is of pagan origin? Sheesh!

[@Delgen1951]

you know the "Pagen" holiday was established ten or more years After Christians started to celebrate Christmas in Rome. We have letters from Alreaius the Imperator who started the pagan holiday, after Christians first appaired in Rome and Celebrated Christmas. See the video that Inspired Philosophy has on it.

[@baberoot1998]

Where does the Yule Log come from?

[@nox567]

@@baberoot1998 literally watch the video

[@ceebee7707]

@@baberoot1998 Christmas trees are believed to have originated with yule logs due to the fact that their roots can be traced back to pagan traditions. Yule was a pagan festival celebrated by the ancient Germanic and Norse peoples, during which a large log was lit to signify the return of the sun and the beginning of the winter solstice. This log was known as a Yule log, and its purpose was to bring warmth and light to the home. The tradition of bringing a Yule log into the home and decorating it with evergreen trees and other symbols of fertility to represent the coming of the new year eventually evolved into the modern-day Christmas tree. This is why some scholars believe that the roots of the Christmas tree are deeply connected to paganism and pre-Christian beliefs. Some scholars who hold this stance include Ronald Hutton, a professor of History at the University of Bristol; John Rush

[@ceebee7707]

@@nox567 Christmas trees are believed to have originated with yule logs due to the fact that their roots can be traced back to pagan traditions. Yule was a pagan festival celebrated by the ancient Germanic and Norse peoples, during which a large log was lit to signify the return of the sun and the beginning of the winter solstice. This log was known as a Yule log, and its purpose was to bring warmth and light to the home. The tradition of bringing a Yule log into the home and decorating it with evergreen trees and other symbols of fertility to represent the coming of the new year eventually evolved into the modern-day Christmas tree. This is why some scholars believe that the roots of the Christmas tree are deeply connected to paganism and pre-Christian beliefs. Some scholars who hold this stance include Ronald Hutton, a professor of History at the University of Bristol; John Rush

[@TodoWasTaken]

Christmas is celebrated in winter. You know who else celebrates holidays in winter? P a g a n s

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

checkmate

[@famemontana]

Mic drop

[@misseli1]

Christians pray. You know who else prays? P a g a n s

[@bossmai4622]

Boom! Hahaha

[@retrictumrectus1010]

Christians eat breakfast. You know wbo else eat breakfast? P a g a n s. Checkmate Christians!😂😂

[@telosbound]

I am so glad that someone made this video. definitely will be sending this to people that spread Christmas misconceptions

[@jimatreidēs]

The Orthodox Church doesn’t celebrate Christmas on January 7 because of a dispute on Christmas Day. It was always celebrated on December 25th. The reason it’s celebrated on January 7 is because the Orthodox world uses the Julian Calendar for their religious holidays. If you use the Julian calendar, then Christmas falls on December 25. But when the Julian calendar was replaced by the more accurate Gregorian calendar, Orthodox countries adopted it as their secular, business calendar, but kept the Julian for the religious holidays. The difference between the Julian and Gregorian calendar is 13 days. So, if you count 13 days from December 25, you’ll end up on January 7. PS, nowadays, not all Orthodox countries celebrate Christmas on January 7, but December 25 to be in synch with the rest of Christianity.

[@Eru87]

Hey, if you feel like celebrating both, you can come visit us in PR 🇵🇷 since we go full Christmas celebrating from after thanksgiving till Jan 7. Even some go mid January but I always felt that a bit of a stretch

[@TRINITYTVint]

Really...should he really mention that?

[@beauty.of.the.struggle]

@@TRINITYTVint yes, he should.

[@jelynn6463]

And yet both those calendars are wrong. Look up the Essenes and the lunar/Enoch calendar. You're also talking about Greek orthodox where many Greeks are agnostic or atheist, but are still going to church to get that flame to bring home and burn all night. I had friends where both parents and both of their fathers were athiests and the grandfathers still wanted their children "baptized" as babies in the church. Superstition runs high.

[@TRINITYTVint]

@@beauty.of.the.struggle No it is irrelevant.

[@DarrenGedye]

That is amazing! I had accepted those claims uncritically and instead focussed on the logical flaws in their claimed implications, ie putting an uncertain date of Jesus's birth on a pagan festival does not logically imply that Jesus didn't exist. But shame on me for not fact checking the actual claims! Thank you!

[@alejandrotapia5800]

no one is implying he didn't exist..WHAT IS FACTUALLY TRUE IS THAT HE WASN'T BORN IN THE 25TH OF DECEMBER OR DECEMBER AT ALL..AND EVERY TRADITION AND CELEBRATION CONCERNING CHRISTMAS IS NOT..I REPEAT IS NOT IN THE WORD OF GOD..IS NOT IN THE BIBLE

[@Delgen1951]

@@alejandrotapia5800 the rail date is not important, it can be seen a little like the Queen of England real birthday is not the day that All of England celebrates her Birt, which is a few months after the national one.

[@rdubyatjr]

the Bible does describe the timing of Christ's birth. We can calculate this from context clues given in the Bible. As we know from basic human biology, the average child is born about 9 months after they are conceived. Christ's conception is something announced in the Bible, in the Gospel according to Luke 1:26-38. In these verses we see only one timestamp given: 6 months into the pregnancy of St Elizabeth, the mother of St John the Baptist. The Theotokos is informed that she will bear the Son of God. Mary gives her consent to this, and then she conceives. So far we have two timestamps: 9 months after the Annunciation, and 6 months after the conception of St John the Baptist. However, we don't yet have an exact date. In the scriptures, though, we are told when St John the Baptist was conceived. The Gospel of Luke 1:5-22 describes the conception of Saint John the Baptist as happening "of the course of Abia" This is a critically important point because this describes the jewish holiday of Yom Kippur, which happened in late September of 1 BC. How does that simple phrase describe Yom Kippur? Well, the Scripture records the Course of Abia as the eighth course among the 24 priestly courses for the Old Covenant Jews. (Nehemiah 12:17). Each course served one week in the temple for twice each year. The course of Abia served during the 8th week and the 32nd week in the annual cycle. This means that the priestly course of Abia (the course of St Zacharias) was serving during the 2nd week of the Jewish month of Tishri - the week of the Day of Atonement on the 10th of Tishri. In the secular calendar, the Day of Atonement on 10th Tishri lands anywhere from September 22 to October 8. In 1BC, Hebrew Calendars have calculated it to be roughly equivalent to be about September 27th. www.cgsf.org/dbeattie/calendar/?roman=1bc St Zacharias and St Elizabeth conceived John the Baptist immediately after Zacharias served his course. This means that St John the Baptist would have been conceived somewhere around the end of September. This confirms the Orthodox Church’s celebration of the Conception of St John the Baptist on September 23, and places his birth 9 months later at the end of June, confirming the Orthodox Church’s celebration of the Nativity of Saint John the Baptist on June 24. So if St John the Baptist was conceived around September 23rd-27th, then Christ was conceived 6 months later in March (23rd-27th). That means Christ was born 9 months later in December, 23rd - 27th, which just so happens to contain December 25th. "But what about Saturnalia" Ultimately irrelevant. If pagans would celebrate the Winter Solstice, it does not affect when Christ was born. He was born exactly when He was meant to be born. Christians had been celebrating the Nativity before they knew of Saturnalia. Furthermore, Saturnalia was NEVER celebrated at the same time as Christmas (the Nativity). Saturnalia was celebrated initially on December 17th, and expanded to Dec 23rd, which conveniently does NOT contain Christmas which is on December 25th. "But the word Christmas is of pagan origin" No it is not. It's etymological origins are "Christ's Mass." (Mass meaning missal or Liturgy) Other names like X-Mas derive from the Greek letter Χ which is the first letter of Christ's name in Greek (Χριστός) "But Christians do pagan things on Christmas, like put up Christmas trees" Christmas Trees were popularized by protestant Christian reformer Martin Luther, who is said to have put up the first Christmas tree when he placed lighted candles on an evergreen tree. Not pagan at all. While such an act and tradition had nothing to do with the Christians of the first 1500 years, this is still nevertheless a Christian origin to an already Christian holiday. "But Santa Claus is based on paganism" No he is not. While Santa has been sensationalized by western consumerist culture, he still has his origins in Christianity, being directly founded upon Saint Nicholas of Myra, a Greek Orthodox Bishop in Anatolia. This is where the traditions of stockings come from. Saint Nicholas, known for his charity, donated incredible amounts of gold to a father of three daughters who was about to be forced to sell his daughters into prostitution, placing this gold in their stockings. Saint Nicholas gave away everything he owned, and greatly enriched the people wherever he would go. This is where gift giving in connection to Santa Claus is based on.

[@DarrenGedye]

@@alejandrotapia5800 I don't know what it is like on your planet, but here on earth I interact every day with people who don't just imply Jesus dosen't exist, but state it emphatically with all the confidence the dunning-kruger effect gives them.

[@BlakeAlexander12]

You are engaging in literal blasphemous Nimrod worship

[@metaouroboros6324]

Adam: I am about to ruin everything you know about Christmas! 😏 IP: I am about to debunk that. 😒

[@bellatorixrex]

I'm glad you straighten out these misconceptions and lies spread by atheists who like to celebrate Christmas but dislike the religion. I see the same thing with All Hallows Eve.

[@zionwright7]

how about this reason. That is a holiday celebrated by the world. God says in Amos 3:3-5 two can not walk together unless they agree. So if you agree with the world which is against God you will do as they do. Jeremiah 10:1-4 speaks on the tradition of Christmas trees and how not to partake in their customs.James 4:4 be not friends with the world for its in enmity with God. You are serving the world by partaking in its customs making you an adulterer to God. Hence why he calls Israel whores in Isaiah 1:21. 1John 2:13-15 tells us that we are not to love the world nor the things in the world. Again God did not appoint these holidays for us so to love these customs means the love of God is not in us John 17:15-16 we are not taken from the world nor it’s evil which we know is rooted in the customs of this world. We are not of this world hence Romans 12:2 which says we are not to be conformed to this world. Colossians 2:6-8 We are to walk in Christ rooted and built up as we have been taught not by philosophy or vain deceit after the rudiments of this world. 2 Thessalonians 2:15 We are to stand firm in what the Bible teaches not the world and there is only one verse on Christmas and many on worldly traditions both pointing towards a bad notion. Matthew 15:1-3 speaks on the Pharisees approaching Christ on washing hands and Jesus responds why do you transgress the word of God for the sake of tradition. Back to Jeremiah chapter 10 in verse 5 he acknowledges the Christmas tree to be a god. Little g of course for there is but one God. Now what is the curse for putting a cursed idol or false god in your home??? Deuteronomy 7:26 breaks it down quite clear and to all OT haters understand the OT God makes a promise with his people and in the NT he fulfills his promise. I believe, according to Gods words in the text we are given, A God who Shall not lie nor change his mind has spoken it and said it so he will do it and it will come to pass.(Numbers 23:19) And is the same God yesterday today and forevermore Hebrews 13:8. This is more than enough reason not to celebrate Christmas as well as any other worldly gathering/arrangement/ celebration etc. Instead keep Godly precepts and tradition.

[@Solidrock-jq6rp]

You can prove anything when Scripture is taken out of context. If you want to live under the law, then don’t celebrate birthdays, don’t use birth control & don’t practice cremation for starters as these are all pagan. Scripture talks against these as well. Lots of people go to church that are not saved. Should we stop going to church? Marriage has been perverted. Shall we stop getting married? Jesus celebrated every feast day even Hanukkah, & that was not commanded by God. They called it Feast of Dedication in John or commonly known as Festival of Lights. We are to give glory to God & use the events to tell the generations to come. Scripture is clear in Romans & Colossians & many other places that we are not to judge others for either celebrating or not celebrating a day for God or what we eat or don’t eat. Above all we are to have peace.

[@PresbyterianPaladin]

Thanks IP for another great video debunking the many baseless claims of paganism that are constantly thrown at Christianity in one way or another.

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

glad to help

[@BlakeAlexander12]

He didn’t debunk anything.. he’s beyond wrong to the point of it being detestable

[@tehdreamer]

@@BlakeAlexander12 Please break down every point with supporting counter evidence to show everyone how is he wrong.

[@Name-tf4qp]

@@tehdreamer the very fact you people celebrate with things called (go ahead and look what Yule is) YULE goats and YULE logs, the fact that almost all of christmas is norse in theme, the fact of elves and other spirits. The only thing christian about “ christmass” is the name.

[@tehdreamer]

@@Name-tf4qp Okay fair enough but please give reference to the sources to back it up. IP does, so his argument is credible in my eyes. I am not even that bothered if the tradition came from pagan origins, but I keep hearing new ageists and atheist shout about it like it's unquestionable fact without giving evidence.

[@eclipsesonic]

This is the video that everybody should watch who claims that Christmas has Pagan origins. Thank you IP for your excellent research and detail in debunking these myths. 👍👍

[@mickski548]

I’m just so confused idk how to find the truth because theirs a HUGE following that believes christmas is pagan but theirs also a following that says it’s not, I’m so confused

[@eclipsesonic]

You should ask yourself. Which side has the sources and evidence to back up their claims? Inspiring Philosophy did an excellent job giving the evidence and sources in response to Pagan accusations about Christmas, whereas the other side tend to give hearsay or just misinformation on the topic. I notice the people who argue it's Pagan tend to be people on the Internet, rather than qualified experts who know the history behind it.@@mickski548

[@thewildblueone5341]

The fact that this has less views than the videos that spam these bogus "Christmas was stolen from paganism" nonsense makes me sick to my stomach.

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

Well I just posted it, give it some time. Share it out and that will help it get views.

[@threefernsfitness]

This was so helpful! I have been researching this stuff and get really overwhelmed with all the theories and information. This was concise and a great listen 🙌 Thank you so much!

[@EmotionsRTemporary]

@@threefernsfitnessIf you are basing your beliefs off Christians of that time and not the Bible. You will lost from the start. The Bible wasn’t even about these people.

[@ActualFaith]

The production value and research is excellent, Mike! Merry Christmas! 🎄

[@annoyingdude76]

one of those rare ''top 10 stuff about a random religious topic'' videos on youtube, except this is actually good

[@joostvanrens]

So traditions are newer than you think. This video reminds me of the idea of "ancient" traditions in student clubs. Traditions are handed down from one generation of students to the next. But since a generation for students is only like 4-5 years many of those traditions are less than 10 years old

[@live_unafraid47]

While I appreciate this video, it does nothing to convince me that these traditions should be a part of a Christian holiday. I also want to point out that pagan religions are still around and active today, and many of them practice some of these for their traditions.

[@albertohernandez8721]

Well those pagan religions are actually really really really modern only dating back to the 1950's at the earliest and having no link to any real ancient paganism basically they are LARPers with bad history.

[@live_unafraid47]

@@albertohernandez8721 I am sure that is true for some, maybe even a lot, but I know people who have family beliefs, artifacts, and journals/books that have been past down for generations and they still follow those practices. Still probably not the most ancient of paganism, but if that is the standard we are going by then nothing is really linked to anything that's all that ancient.

[@live_unafraid47]

@@albertohernandez8721 Also, that doesn't really make it any less pagan...

[@droe2570]

"it does nothing to convince me that these traditions should be a part of a Christian holiday...." OK. So? Who said that they "should" be? If you don't want to celebrate in these ways, don't. Also, here's something from Paul, maybe you've heard of him? "Therefore, no one is to act as your judge in regard to food and drink, or in respect to a festival or a new moon, or a Sabbath day --things which are only a shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ." Col 2: 16,17. Also, those "pagan" practices to which you refer are modern day nonsense made up by fake pagans and goofy new agers.

[@live_unafraid47]

@@droe2570 Wow, condescending much. I am allowed to have an opinion, and I am allowed to share it. I am open to disagreement and conversation, but when you resort to putting people down or using a holier than thou mindset, no one wants to listen to you. (Accept maybe the people who whole heartedly agree with you) . On that note, I still want to know why the "fake" or modernness of their paganism" is relevant. It's still rebelling against God, worshiping other spirits, "gods" or what have you, and it is still harmful and immoral.

[@SquizzMe]

You're bringing back the Exodus! I can't wait. Thank you for your work!

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

Yep

[@zionwright7]

how about this reason. That is a holiday celebrated by the world. God says in Amos 3:3-5 two can not walk together unless they agree. So if you agree with the world which is against God you will do as they do. Jeremiah 10:1-4 speaks on the tradition of Christmas trees and how not to partake in their customs.James 4:4 be not friends with the world for its in enmity with God. You are serving the world by partaking in its customs making you an adulterer to God. Hence why he calls Israel whores in Isaiah 1:21. 1John 2:13-15 tells us that we are not to love the world nor the things in the world. Again God did not appoint these holidays for us so to love these customs means the love of God is not in us John 17:15-16 we are not taken from the world nor it’s evil which we know is rooted in the customs of this world. We are not of this world hence Romans 12:2 which says we are not to be conformed to this world. Colossians 2:6-8 We are to walk in Christ rooted and built up as we have been taught not by philosophy or vain deceit after the rudiments of this world. 2 Thessalonians 2:15 We are to stand firm in what the Bible teaches not the world and there is only one verse on Christmas and many on worldly traditions both pointing towards a bad notion. Matthew 15:1-3 speaks on the Pharisees approaching Christ on washing hands and Jesus responds why do you transgress the word of God for the sake of tradition. Back to Jeremiah chapter 10 in verse 5 he acknowledges the Christmas tree to be a god. Little g of course for there is but one God. Now what is the curse for putting a cursed idol or false god in your home??? Deuteronomy 7:26 breaks it down quite clear and to all OT haters understand the OT God makes a promise with his people and in the NT he fulfills his promise. I believe, according to Gods words in the text we are given, A God who Shall not lie nor change his mind has spoken it and said it so he will do it and it will come to pass.(Numbers 23:19) And is the same God yesterday today and forevermore Hebrews 13:8. This is more than enough reason not to celebrate Christmas as well as any other worldly gathering/arrangement/ celebration etc. Instead keep Godly precepts and tradition.

[@SkyKingAzure]

To take a Biblical stance on this: Romans 14:5-13 _5 One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; [a]and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks. 7 For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself. 8 For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s. 9 For to this end Christ died [b]and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of both the dead and the living. 10 But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of [c]Christ. 11 For it is written:_ _“As I live, says the Lord, Every knee shall bow to Me, And every tongue shall confess to God.”_ _12 So then each of us shall give account of himself to God. 13 Therefore let us not judge one another [d]anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother’s way._ The fact that someone else - a Christian - celebrates Christmas should not render a _de facto_ judgement upon them. One can celebrate the Christian aspect of Christmas with or withOUT a tree. Let the fathers and mothers seek to uphold Christ when observing the holiday - let them turn away from the crippling _commercialization_ aspect of Christmas, and focus instead of GIVING rather than GETTING. There's no harm in giving gifts to each other, but it should not be a competition between the children on who got the 'better gifts'. If the parent(s) can't make the distinction, then maybe they should cut back on the gifts to teach a lesson. If one still wishes not to celebrate Christmas, that's fine - but don't lord that fact over someone else. One should not shame someone else for having greater resistance to different temptations than yourself. That's like blaming someone for having natural immunity to certain sicknesses and diseases. God gave us big brains for a reason - use them.

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

You’d think this would be obvious to most who profess to be Christian.

[@SkyKingAzure]

@@InspiringPhilosophy It's *always* the 'human' element that messes things up - both in religious and secular circles.

[@audioartisan]

This video was so needed! I've read way too many comments that most people actually believe that paganism is responsible for Christmas ...This is a myth. Christmas has always been the celebration of Christ coming to Earth period. Thank you for making this video!

[@blugaledoh2669]

But Jesus wasn't born in December?

[@amsterdamG2G]

@@blugaledoh2669 not the REAL JESUS at least. He was born around the feast of tabernacles.

[@blugaledoh2669]

@@amsterdamG2G Actually I think the reason December was chosen was because he fit well within the season or something. I am not sure if medieval or early Christian believe Jesus was actually born in December.

[@zionwright7]

how about this reason. That is a holiday celebrated by the world. God says in Amos 3:3-5 two can not walk together unless they agree. So if you agree with the world which is against God you will do as they do. Jeremiah 10:1-4 speaks on the tradition of Christmas trees and how not to partake in their customs.James 4:4 be not friends with the world for its in enmity with God. You are serving the world by partaking in its customs making you an adulterer to God. Hence why he calls Israel whores in Isaiah 1:21. 1John 2:13-15 tells us that we are not to love the world nor the things in the world. Again God did not appoint these holidays for us so to love these customs means the love of God is not in us John 17:15-16 we are not taken from the world nor it’s evil which we know is rooted in the customs of this world. We are not of this world hence Romans 12:2 which says we are not to be conformed to this world. Colossians 2:6-8 We are to walk in Christ rooted and built up as we have been taught not by philosophy or vain deceit after the rudiments of this world. 2 Thessalonians 2:15 We are to stand firm in what the Bible teaches not the world and there is only one verse on Christmas and many on worldly traditions both pointing towards a bad notion. Matthew 15:1-3 speaks on the Pharisees approaching Christ on washing hands and Jesus responds why do you transgress the word of God for the sake of tradition. Back to Jeremiah chapter 10 in verse 5 he acknowledges the Christmas tree to be a god. Little g of course for there is but one God. Now what is the curse for putting a cursed idol or false god in your home??? Deuteronomy 7:26 breaks it down quite clear and to all OT haters understand the OT God makes a promise with his people and in the NT he fulfills his promise. I believe, according to Gods words in the text we are given, A God who Shall not lie nor change his mind has spoken it and said it so he will do it and it will come to pass.(Numbers 23:19) And is the same God yesterday today and forevermore Hebrews 13:8. This is more than enough reason not to celebrate Christmas as well as any other worldly gathering/arrangement/ celebration etc. Instead keep Godly precepts and tradition.

[@myrtleesther8855]

It is not mentioned as a feast in the Bible. God is opening eyes and ears to the lies.

[@RealCaptainAwesome]

Well done and researched. Every year anti Christmas Christians and non believers bring out these same tired arguments. Thanks for this handy resource.

[@christiansoldier77]

Michael Burke This video does nothing to prove christmas isnt pagan. How can you have all these christmas traditions match all these pagan traditions but dont have any connection to one another? Thats ridiculous. They obviously are connected. This guy saying "there is no evidence " doesnt change the obvious truth

[@Adam-1984]

𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗧𝗥𝗨𝗧𝗛 𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗖𝗛𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗧𝗠𝗔𝗦 Did you know that December 25th was celebrated thousands of years before the birth of Jesus ? Billions of people in this world celebrate Christmas as a Christian holiday, including millions of non-believers. But if you look through every page of the Bible, then you will not find one word about Christmas being celebrated by any of God's people ! It is not even mentioned once in the whole Bible, neither by Jesus, or by any of His apostles. Yet on the other hand, the pagans and the heathen world observed the 25th of December for two thousands years before the birth of Jesus Christ ! December 25th was a date to celebrate the birth of the Sun god Tammuz. Tammuz was the child of Nimrod the man we read about in Genesis 10:8-10 Nimrod was a very wicked king before God and he was the first great King of Babylon. After he defeated many nations and conquered them Nimrod claimed to be greater than the Supreme God. He commanded the whole empire to worship him as a god. After the death of Nimrod, Queen Ishtar commanded the whole empire to worship Nimrod as Baal the Sun god. Ishtar proclaimed that Nimrod was taken to the Sun, and that he had to be worshipped as the Sun god. Tammuz was the only child of Nimrod, and he was born on 25th of December. Tammuz was a great king who always defeated his enemies. However, he was just like his father Nimrod in doing great evil before God. Tammuz was killed by a wild pig, and after his death Queen Ishtar commanded that Tammuz had to be worshipped as the child of the god Baal who was Nimrod. From that time in history, it was Queen Ishtar who built a strong foundation of paganism which spread across the whole world that December 25th was a day to celebrate the birth of Tammuz, the child of the god Baal. Thus, in paganism worshipers are worshiping Nimrod, Queen Ishtar and Tammuz. Nimrod from that time was to be honored every Sunday as the Sun god Baal. Queen Ishtar on Easter. (the word Ishtar is where the word Easter comes from). And Tammuz was to be worshiped on the 25th December. These are the three great holidays that were set aside to celebrate these three people who showed great wickedness before God. Indeed, December 25th was celebrated thousands of years before Jesus was even born. During Christmas, One of their customs was to decorate a tree. in Jeremiah 10:3-4, God is telling us NOT to learn the way of the heathens, and not to even practice it. For God condemns all customs of the heathens. Yet we see these same customs existing today and the holiday is now called Christmas with the Christmas tree. The Scriptures describe these Christmas celebration as idolatry ! Some claim that this chapter of Jeremiah 10:3-4 refers to idols being made from the trees. This may be true, but does God approve of trees being used to worship Him ? Is there a command in the Scriptures allowing us to do so ? The answer is very simple, NO ! Isaiah 40:19 - 41:23 - 45:20 - 46:17 Psalm 115:4-7 Habakkuk 2:19 December 25th is always a Sun Baal worship holiday because of the birth of Tammuz (one of the Sun gods). Many people put the Sun, moon or the Star on top of their Christmas tree ! Some people will say that the Star on the tree represent the Star which appeared when Jesus was born in Bethlehem, but where does the Scriptures approve of such things ? Some people place an angel on their Christmas trees and claims that this is fine. According to the Bible, in 2 Corinthians 11:14, Satan Himself is transformed into an angel of light. Putting an angel on the Christmas trees is synonymous with placing a star on top of the tree, because both images represents light, or the Sun. But many people claim that the angel they place on the Christmas trees is a Heavenly one. In Exodus 20:4, God said: "Thou shall not make into thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in Heaven above" Angels are in Heaven above, and God forbids having images of anything that's in Heaven above for the purpose of worship. Heathens hate The Commandments of God because they want to worship their own gods without anyone condemning them with the Word of the Supreme God. In Rome, December 25th was always a date to celebrate the birth of the Sun god. In A.D 324, for the first time under the Roman Emperor Justinian (A.D. 527-565), December 25th was first recognized as an official Christian holiday. An old Babylonian festival played a major part in the choice of this particular day. Paul warns us about this evil festival by these words in 2 Corinth 11:3-4 "But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him." (2 Corinthians 11:3-4) Sunday worship, Christmas and Easter, have nothing to do with Jesus Christ ! These pagan festivals were MIXED with Christianity by the evil Roman Catholic Church under the authority of Satan. Place all these festivals to the test of the Scripture, if you are faithful to the Truth, then you will be able to see that they have nothing to do with our Lord Jesus Christ. There is no doubt we are living in the last days, and Satan is very desperate to control every aspect of religion so he can get worshiped by people who are ignorant of the Word of God. Jesus is not honored through pagan ways of worship ! Jesus is only honored when we OBEY The Commandments of His Father ! And the only Holy day we were given by God is the Seventh Day Sabbath (Gen 2:2-3) ________________________________ According to the Book of Revelation: The Great Whore of Babylon = The Catholic Church The Daughters of the Great Whore = The Apostate Churches So it's time to "Come Out of Babylon" before it's forever too late ! “And I heard another voice from Heaven, saying, COME OUT of her, My people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” (Revelation 18:4)

[@RealCaptainAwesome]

@@christiansoldier77 I heard a rumor that pagans also eat food in the morning, I bet you'll think twice before your morning "break fast" now won't you?

[@christiansoldier77]

@@RealCaptainAwesome LOL I am not talking about eating in the morning I am talking about worshipping God and God said not to worship Him in the same way that the heathens worship their pagan gods

[@RealCaptainAwesome]

@@christiansoldier77 but we're not. There are some vague similarities in some pagan traditions but as pointed out in the video you clearly watched 🙄most of them are POST Christian traditions. But the problem that anti Christmas Christians fail to see is that many feasts and celebrations and even customs were very similar to the heathen nations around them, so how about we worry about important things like the Gospel and not traditions of men?

[@ShadyOakMinistries]

Thank you for the hard work and professionalism you put into these. I get this question alot on our church radio program and I have recommended your channel often. Especially around Easter and Christmas.

[@zionwright7]

how about this reason. That is a holiday celebrated by the world. God says in Amos 3:3-5 two can not walk together unless they agree. So if you agree with the world which is against God you will do as they do. Jeremiah 10:1-4 speaks on the tradition of Christmas trees and how not to partake in their customs.James 4:4 be not friends with the world for its in enmity with God. You are serving the world by partaking in its customs making you an adulterer to God. Hence why he calls Israel whores in Isaiah 1:21. 1John 2:13-15 tells us that we are not to love the world nor the things in the world. Again God did not appoint these holidays for us so to love these customs means the love of God is not in us John 17:15-16 we are not taken from the world nor it’s evil which we know is rooted in the customs of this world. We are not of this world hence Romans 12:2 which says we are not to be conformed to this world. Colossians 2:6-8 We are to walk in Christ rooted and built up as we have been taught not by philosophy or vain deceit after the rudiments of this world. 2 Thessalonians 2:15 We are to stand firm in what the Bible teaches not the world and there is only one verse on Christmas and many on worldly traditions both pointing towards a bad notion. Matthew 15:1-3 speaks on the Pharisees approaching Christ on washing hands and Jesus responds why do you transgress the word of God for the sake of tradition. Back to Jeremiah chapter 10 in verse 5 he acknowledges the Christmas tree to be a god. Little g of course for there is but one God. Now what is the curse for putting a cursed idol or false god in your home??? Deuteronomy 7:26 breaks it down quite clear and to all OT haters understand the OT God makes a promise with his people and in the NT he fulfills his promise. I believe, according to Gods words in the text we are given, A God who Shall not lie nor change his mind has spoken it and said it so he will do it and it will come to pass.(Numbers 23:19) And is the same God yesterday today and forevermore Hebrews 13:8. This is more than enough reason not to celebrate Christmas as well as any other worldly gathering/arrangement/ celebration etc. Instead keep Godly precepts and tradition.

[@Saint_nobody]

After some extensive research on the topic (including listening to a few songs about it), I've come to the conclusion, *Krampus **_is_** pagan.* Not in the sense that said beastly's origin is from non-Christian lore, but rather it FOR non-christians (ie pagans). To put it another way, whereas Saint Nic is a representative for Christians during the winter holidays, Krampus is the rep for pagans this (most wonderful) time of the year... Alas because this comment is both days late & long-winded, I do not expect any greater replies. Though, IP if you're reading this, your insight on my thesis is both humbly expected & highly respected. Otherwise, to anyone still reading this madness, have yourself a merry little Christmas. 🎄

[@EzraHatsuko]

Didnt Krampus literally start as a children story to scare children into becoming Good?

[@dominicguye8058]

you make an interesting point

[@davids2977]

In this frame of thought, one could even say Saint Nicholas is essentially a "pagan" creation as it directs focus from the birth of Christ to a man, essentially idolizing a man over God. Paganism loves its idols.

[@Jokl92]

I am from Germany and saint Nicolas definately filled my shoes with gifts on December 6!

[@DanielApologetics]

Enough of all these many evidences..! IP is only defending Christmas because he WANTS the presents!!!!!!!!!

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

And why are you not sending me anything?

[@DanielApologetics]

@@InspiringPhilosophy - Well, its not the 25th and NIMRODS BIRTHDAY YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 10 days away still - Don't be naughty.

[@blankspace8104]

@@InspiringPhilosophy The bible says an eye for an eye, meaning you have to give it first.

[@Saint_nobody]

@@blankspace8104 his gift, the videos he puts out. Your turn. 😄

[@legodavid9260]

Your videos are incredibly well researched, your channel really deserves more views. Keep up the good work!

[@bakhop]

Even if it all came from paganism, it wouldn't matter because God can repurpose it all. I recall as a little kid some adult deriding Christmas by claiming it was all pagan and I thought it was a stupid objection then and I still think so. Afterall, where are the pagans now? All that matters is that we celebrate the birth of the Lord with many beautiful traditions.

[@ruthwellington4454]

There are plenty of people the world over who are not Christian nor do they follow any abrahamic religion. For instance, India, China, Japan, many African countries, and so on. China and India have the majority of the worlds population all on their own. To most Christians, they are pagan. So apparently, pagans are alive and well.

[@TheGiantSlayer1]

"Even if it all came from paganism, it wouldn't matter because God can repurpose it all." Tell this to the sons of Aaron. Discernment isn't seeing the difference between right and wrong, its seeing the difference between right and almost right. God decides how He is to be worshipped, and the entirety of christmas becomes moot because none of it is what God said is the way to worship Him. "Even if it all came from paganism, it wouldn't matter because God can repurpose it all." If it didn't matter, God would have accepted Cains offering instead of telling him that he was offering out of season.

[@bakhop]

@@RandomGuy-jo8ky yes pagans in one sense are certainly around; however in the context here they are not. Perhaps I should've said "ancient pagans" as in devotees of Thor.

[@bakhop]

@@TheGiantSlayer1 well yes God did take a hard line against such things at that time, seems like during the Christianization of Europe he did allow ancient pagan sites to be repurposed and perhaps a few pagan customs crept in as well. I think now energy could be better spent not being Scrooges but appreciating the beauty of our culture which includes lovely trees and gift giving etc.

[@amsterdamG2G]

@@bakhop you are deceiving yourself

[@dufusbrigade]

Regarding kissing under the mistletoe, it could be interpreted as a lighthearted and inconsequential equivalent to Spin the Bottle or taken most seriously like Ruth's man-catching plan of laying at the feet of a sleeping Boaz. It all depends on who setup the mistletoe.

[@brandonluker3660]

I don't know, spinning bottles sounds like playing witchcraft to me. lol

[@SlaveofGod]

Definitely going to enjoy this one! Have been battling the so called "pagan influences" of Christmas with some influenced by the Hebrew Roots deception.

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

Understandable.

[@SlaveofGod]

@@missouritravelers Where is an American flag in the bible?

[@Rotisiv]

@@missouritravelers show me a verse in the Bible that says celebrating Christmas is a sin. Decorating trees and having good time with friends and family while giving out gifts to small children isn’t gonna send you to hell for God’s sake.

[@TwoMessianicJews]

@Rewritten Words You might be interested in our channel. We respond to Hebrew Roots content

[@jesusheals3799]

God established His appointed times in the Torah. If the world is sooo crazy for christmas, you may want to go the opposite way. It doesnt mean Im of an impure heart. The Holy Spirit helps us to perceive deceptions, once we become reborn. Most christians arent reborn of the Spirit and consequently lack discernment.

[@caesarius2004]

Hi IP. I became a Christian again because of your and sentinel apologetics Videos. Thank you very much. Btw. How do you produce your thumbnails?

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

That is wonderful. I am very glad to hear that. I tend to make them in photoshop or premiere. If I use premiere I export a screen shot.

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

Also can I screenshot and share your comment?

[@caesarius2004]

@@InspiringPhilosophy Sure. I also contacted Cameron Bertuzzi from Capturing Christianity. Please mention that I watched the Videos from you three. That would be nice.

[@zionwright7]

how about this reason. That is a holiday celebrated by the world. God says in Amos 3:3-5 two can not walk together unless they agree. So if you agree with the world which is against God you will do as they do. Jeremiah 10:1-4 speaks on the tradition of Christmas trees and how not to partake in their customs.James 4:4 be not friends with the world for its in enmity with God. You are serving the world by partaking in its customs making you an adulterer to God. Hence why he calls Israel whores in Isaiah 1:21. 1John 2:13-15 tells us that we are not to love the world nor the things in the world. Again God did not appoint these holidays for us so to love these customs means the love of God is not in us John 17:15-16 we are not taken from the world nor it’s evil which we know is rooted in the customs of this world. We are not of this world hence Romans 12:2 which says we are not to be conformed to this world. Colossians 2:6-8 We are to walk in Christ rooted and built up as we have been taught not by philosophy or vain deceit after the rudiments of this world. 2 Thessalonians 2:15 We are to stand firm in what the Bible teaches not the world and there is only one verse on Christmas and many on worldly traditions both pointing towards a bad notion. Matthew 15:1-3 speaks on the Pharisees approaching Christ on washing hands and Jesus responds why do you transgress the word of God for the sake of tradition. Back to Jeremiah chapter 10 in verse 5 he acknowledges the Christmas tree to be a god. Little g of course for there is but one God. Now what is the curse for putting a cursed idol or false god in your home??? Deuteronomy 7:26 breaks it down quite clear and to all OT haters understand the OT God makes a promise with his people and in the NT he fulfills his promise. I believe, according to Gods words in the text we are given, A God who Shall not lie nor change his mind has spoken it and said it so he will do it and it will come to pass.(Numbers 23:19) And is the same God yesterday today and forevermore Hebrews 13:8. This is more than enough reason not to celebrate Christmas as well as any other worldly gathering/arrangement/ celebration etc. Instead keep Godly precepts and tradition.

[@mhanna7878]

Great topic Mike 😊, looking forward to finishing the video

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

Wait is there something wrong? This is the finished video.

[@mhanna7878]

@@InspiringPhilosophy nothing is wrong, I just watched few minutes and I had to stop. Will resume it later today 😃 Merry Christmas 🎄

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

Oh ok, thank you

[@simplydanny]

I think this is a modern problem, ancient people didn’t have these kinds of sensitivities. If you look at the similarities between the Torah and other pagan writings of the time, it’s wrong to assume that one stole from the other but the proper idea is that they had similar experiences and similar frame of mind when it came to the divine. You will find many similarities amongst religions but what makes the Bible special is how it took common narratives, ideas and concepts and and elevated it to the eternal truths of the Creator. Torah is a prime example of this, but also in the Christian age we see inculturation happening and not all ideas were redeemable. The idea is that even pagans held to some truth and those ideas were redeemable but many things were also discarded. If you think that the Bible doesn’t have any similarities with pagan culture around the time it was written you’re faith is going to be shaken. Eternal truths will always come from God ultimately but the tools to communicate those truths more often than not are human elements common to the time of when the message was communicated.

[@gr3g3t]

There is the different between real pagan god vs human expected god as pagan.. 😂 It is coorelated to the primitif knowledge of people at that time.. And the other different is, only israel god who showed toward all israelis people, especially during moses leadership.. pagan god never showed himself to a nation, just like islam as pagan..

[@simplydanny]

@@gr3g3t it makes more sense that these pagan gods did show themselves to the pagan nations, sons of gods revealing themselves to humanity and teaching them technology that humanity was not ready for, like in the book of Enoch. This is the belief of scholars like Dr. Michael Heiser and even of the scholars in the Lord of the spirits podcast which looks at this from an Eastern Orthodox perspective using patristic writings. There so many examples that can be brought up of pagan gods revealing themselves to humans. It would explain why pagans had similar notions of gods and pantheons and how they operated.

[@simplydanny]

@@gr3g3t your notion that this is what people believe of gods because of their primitive knowledge is also a modern speculation and is a notion that doesn’t take ancient people seriously 😒

[@gr3g3t]

@@simplydanny primitive knowledge only affecting the way they accept god (how to worship).. not the reason to believing god. 😂

[@simplydanny]

@@gr3g3t worship of God for most Christians around the world is still based on ancient rites, unless your a low church Protestant.

[@DerMelodist]

Christianity: Baptizing the best of the pagan world since ca 33. A.D. And most of our western Christmas traditions don’t come from paganism. Even if they started off that way, by no means do the acts necessarily carry the same occult meaning or practice. We may import new meanings into them if we like, and we have. Merry Christmas IP. This top ten video was great.

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

exactly

[@TheGiantSlayer1]

Can you show me what verse supports doing the acts of the secular under the guise of worship to the Creator? Because I look at Daniel 7:25 as that being action of the ones against God, and Deuteronomy 12 where God says not to do that.

[@TheEngineerd]

@@TheGiantSlayer1 So we're only supposed to worship God in, what, the location the temple used to stand in Jerusalem?

[@beauty.of.the.struggle]

The orthodox church celebrates Christmas on the 25th as well. It's only in certain jurisdictions where it happens in early January, and this is just because they use Julian calendar... It's still "their" December 25th though

[@ShalemAhava]

Loved this video, i appreciate the time and research on this topic. I do have a question though, while doing some research on Christmas, I was also looking into biblical holidays like Yom Kippur, Sukkot and Hanukkah, this was my second year observing Hanukkah as a believer, how do you feel about Christians celebrating biblical Jewish feast days? (I know I’m not saved by practicing any of them, this was my choice)

[@nikokapanen82]

I know that a Jewish holiday Pesach, what some Christians celebrate is not appropriate because this holiday celebrates the liberation of Jews from the bondage of Egypt. We, Christians, suppose to know that we have an infinitely greater holiday to celebrate and that is the death and the resurrection of Jesus Christ, which means freedom from the bondage of sin and salvation from hell. Pesach or freedom from Egypt was just a shadow of the real freedom from sin and hell.

[@PepxiTetris]

Church Fathers advise against celebrating them..

[@LADYG-gl1jx]

@@nikokapanen82 🤣🤣🤣

[@LADYG-gl1jx]

@@PepxiTetris I am going with what the Heavenly Father says.

[@nikokapanen82]

@@LADYG-gl1jx You need to get to know Jesus.

[@mtoohill]

Thanks for your research. I've noticed that those who attach the Church never can cite a source. I studied with a Jehovah Witness, they are totally unaware about being able to check multiple sources, and citations.

[@mikewilliams6025]

That's true generally of JWs regardless of topic. It's a cult.

[@TractionControlusa]

@@mikewilliams6025 they are q cult because they don't celebrate Christmas ? Or because they don't check sources ?

[@leekessler9785]

Bottom line. It’s not a Christian holiday. It is catholic. The Apostles and their disciples never did it. Everybody remember this year, you are celebrating something the Apostles never even thought of.

[@christeeleison9064]

The successors of the apostles were the church fathers, not the reformers. Why do you shoot at your foot dude?

[@alexisgreen-hernandez8604]

Found this video 📹 to be very educational and informative.

[@Pamela-B]

I always thought gift giving was tied to the gifts of the 3 wisemen.

[@zionwright7]

Gift giving I do not disagree with however how about this reason. That is a holiday celebrated by the world. God says in Amos 3:3-5 two can not walk together unless they agree. So if you agree with the world which is against God you will do as they do. Jeremiah 10:1-4 speaks on the tradition of Christmas trees and how not to partake in their customs.James 4:4 be not friends with the world for its in enmity with God. You are serving the world by partaking in its customs making you an adulterer to God. Hence why he calls Israel whores in Isaiah 1:21. 1John 2:13-15 tells us that we are not to love the world nor the things in the world. Again God did not appoint these holidays for us so to love these customs means the love of God is not in us John 17:15-16 we are not taken from the world nor it’s evil which we know is rooted in the customs of this world. We are not of this world hence Romans 12:2 which says we are not to be conformed to this world. Colossians 2:6-8 We are to walk in Christ rooted and built up as we have been taught not by philosophy or vain deceit after the rudiments of this world. 2 Thessalonians 2:15 We are to stand firm in what the Bible teaches not the world and there is only one verse on Christmas and many on worldly traditions both pointing towards a bad notion. Matthew 15:1-3 speaks on the Pharisees approaching Christ on washing hands and Jesus responds why do you transgress the word of God for the sake of tradition. Back to Jeremiah chapter 10 in verse 5 he acknowledges the Christmas tree to be a god. Little g of course for there is but one God. Now what is the curse for putting a cursed idol or false god in your home??? Deuteronomy 7:26 breaks it down quite clear and to all OT haters understand the OT God makes a promise with his people and in the NT he fulfills his promise. I believe, according to Gods words in the text we are given, A God who Shall not lie nor change his mind has spoken it and said it so he will do it and it will come to pass.(Numbers 23:19) And is the same God yesterday today and forevermore Hebrews 13:8. This is more than enough reason not to celebrate Christmas as well as any other worldly gathering/arrangement/ celebration etc. Instead keep Godly precepts and tradition.

[@gerardos256]

No, traditionally Gift Giving is done during The Epiphany of the Lord which is Jan 6 which is the day the Church celebrates Christ revealing himself to the 3 wise men. Really Big in latin countries, its called los reyes magos, the three wise kings. Usually another tradition that day is to eat what is known as a "rosca" which is a bread that is ring shaped. You cut a piece and in the bread there are small figures of Jesus, if you get the figure you have to make Tamales or just some sort of food on Feb 2, which is Candlemas which is the day the Church celebrates the presentation of the Lord, when Mary and Joseph took Christ to the temple (Luke 2:22-40)

[@zionwright7]

@@gerardos256 you know that’s heretical, not in the Bible anywhere but man made from biblical stories, and also idolatry to have figures of Jesus. It violates the 1st and 2nd commandments.

[@gerardos256]

@@zionwright7 So the wise men going to give Jesus is not in the Bible? Or the presentation of the Lord is not in the Bible? You sir are lost. Violation of the First commandment? How so? I have no other God but the Trinity, who is one God, three different persons. The second commandment is about making images of false gods and adoring those images, please read the Bible in context. If it's just on making images you are violating that commandment with that profile picture.

[@zionwright7]

@@gerardos256 you are conforming and twisting scripture.. where in the Bible does God instruct us to give gifts on Christmas Day? Where in the Bible does it teach these customs? You realize these are customs that were created by men don’t you? The Bible is clear on telling us not to follow after the rudiments of this world. Not to be friends of the world because those who are friends with the world are in enmity with God. Do not be persuaded into false dogma by traditions of men. Colossians 2:8, James chapter 4:2-4, Mark 7:7-10. Matthew 15:3 we constantly break Gods word by following man made traditions because in Exodus 20:4-5 is clear on creating images of God. We don’t know what God looks like not even Jesus so how can we even try to reason with creating a false image and being ok with it. That’s blasphemous and it’s idolatry. You claim to worship Jesus and believe that picture depicts Jesus so you worship the Jesus in that picture over the one in the Bible. I do not worship these dogs so how can you yoke me amongst your idolatry. The saddest part about this is you justify your idolatry by claiming to feign me of it or falsely accuse me of it. We are actually to abstain from those idle false believers and nonbelievers. 2 Thessalonians 3:6 and Ephesians 5:7 We are to stand firm and keep the commandments given to us by God not the world. But by the word of God which is Jesus Christ. If it’s not in the Bible we shouldn’t be partaking in it. 1 Corinthians 11:1-2,2 Thessalonians 2:15, we are to stay in our word in and out of season unless we will listen to false teachers that appease our desires on what to believe in and fall away from the truth. 2 Timothy 4:2-4. There’s some scriptural prove brother May he who have an ear hear from the Lord.

[@xAaeiynx]

Merry Christmas! Well, since it's Dec 24, Happy Feast of Adam & Eve!

[@shitpostinc.4544]

Not all orthodox churches celebrate Christmas on january 7th and those that do actually do it because they follow The Julian calendar for holidays.

[@randelshurker8133]

Honestly, it seems more likely that folks enjoy celebrating, and since a lot of these days tend to line up with things that a lot of cultures would see in nature, it'd make sense that they'd converge on similar things. Kinda like how different creatures, through different evolutionary paths, arrive at similar niches in an ecosystem with similar adaptations, despite having no real direct links between them.

[@AlexanderosD]

Yeah, when Jesus comes back, he'll be so pleased that we finally sorted out whether or not our birthday party celebration for Him was a Christian tradition or not.🤣 Humans have an uncanny ability to lose sight of the important things.

[@zionwright7]

how about this reason. That is a holiday celebrated by the world. God says in Amos 3:3-5 two can not walk together unless they agree. So if you agree with the world which is against God you will do as they do. Jeremiah 10:1-4 speaks on the tradition of Christmas trees and how not to partake in their customs.James 4:4 be not friends with the world for its in enmity with God. You are serving the world by partaking in its customs making you an adulterer to God. Hence why he calls Israel whores in Isaiah 1:21. 1John 2:13-15 tells us that we are not to love the world nor the things in the world. Again God did not appoint these holidays for us so to love these customs means the love of God is not in us John 17:15-16 we are not taken from the world nor it’s evil which we know is rooted in the customs of this world. We are not of this world hence Romans 12:2 which says we are not to be conformed to this world. Colossians 2:6-8 We are to walk in Christ rooted and built up as we have been taught not by philosophy or vain deceit after the rudiments of this world. 2 Thessalonians 2:15 We are to stand firm in what the Bible teaches not the world and there is only one verse on Christmas and many on worldly traditions both pointing towards a bad notion. Matthew 15:1-3 speaks on the Pharisees approaching Christ on washing hands and Jesus responds why do you transgress the word of God for the sake of tradition. Back to Jeremiah chapter 10 in verse 5 he acknowledges the Christmas tree to be a god. Little g of course for there is but one God. Now what is the curse for putting a cursed idol or false god in your home??? Deuteronomy 7:26 breaks it down quite clear and to all OT haters understand the OT God makes a promise with his people and in the NT he fulfills his promise. I believe, according to Gods words in the text we are given, A God who Shall not lie nor change his mind has spoken it and said it so he will do it and it will come to pass.(Numbers 23:19) And is the same God yesterday today and forevermore Hebrews 13:8. This is more than enough reason not to celebrate Christmas as well as any other worldly gathering/arrangement/ celebration etc. Instead keep Godly precepts and tradition.

[@danabattisto7634]

Jesus would never lie to children. Period.

[@ihaveatonofnames]

IP only wants to defend Christmas because he is NOT a Santa denier 💪

[@stefanpopescu4914]

A slight observation: You are slightly in error when saying that Orthodox Christians celebrate Christmas on the 7th of January. They celebrate it on December 25th but use the (older) Julian Calendar, as opposed to the Gregorian one. So it is unfair to say that they have a tradition of celebrating Christmas on a date different than December 25th. Thank you.

[@thedreadtyger]

Except, of course, our brothers the Armenians. The Nativity is celebrated on 6 January along with the Theophany. Christ is Born! Glorify Him!

[@TRINITYTVint]

come on!

[@HenryLeslieGraham]

youre playing a bizzare game of semantics. orthodox Christmas does not take place on the same day as western Christmas. that is not up for debate. you can call it Rumplestiltskin day. but the calendar that everyone in the wester world uses day to day says that your Christmas takes place on jan 7. I know because the live streams of the services take place on jan 7 and not dec 25. but you weren't arguing about a technicality, you're saying its wrong to say Christmas takes place on jan 7. for everyone in the world including the orthodox church 7 jan is the date of Christmas, because most people operate according to the gregorian calendar. or is your birthday delayed also by 2 weeks?

[@stefanpopescu4914]

@@HenryLeslieGraham dude, ALL holy days are done 13 days after. Saint Nick? Yeah: 6 Decenber! But not 6 December on the Gregorian, but on the Julian. 6 December is still 6 December. December 25th is still December 25th. And if anything, it's the western churches that changed the calendar (for good or bad). I didn't say that orthodox Christmas (in the case of the ones who use the Julian) takes place at the same time. I'm saying that for people who use different calendars, December 25th occurs on different days!

[@stefanpopescu4914]

@@HenryLeslieGraham regeeding my birthday: if I was born on December 14th on the gregorian, I'd say I was born on December 1st on the Julian. Get it now? Because for better or for worse, today is December the 6th on the Julian, and the Russians are celebrating Saint Nicholas.

[@ash9280]

I don't think so called ''pagan elements'' make Christmas any less Christian. I never got the correlation. After what is all good in the world and points towards the greater truth of God serves God. It doesn't matter where they come from but purpose they serve matters the most. People confuse this distinction. People assume if the elements came from somewhere else then of course, it was added as a cynical powermove by Christians to convert. When Christianity is supposed to be post messianic judaism. The faith was no longer was supposed to be an ethno religious faith but a universal faith. Anti-Christians using Christmas customs that come from different cultures as a ''gotacha'' is dumb and comes from a misunderstanding.

[@zionwright7]

how about this reason. That is a holiday celebrated by the world. God says in Amos 3:3-5 two can not walk together unless they agree. So if you agree with the world which is against God you will do as they do. Jeremiah 10:1-4 speaks on the tradition of Christmas trees and how not to partake in their customs.James 4:4 be not friends with the world for its in enmity with God. You are serving the world by partaking in its customs making you an adulterer to God. Hence why he calls Israel whores in Isaiah 1:21. 1John 2:13-15 tells us that we are not to love the world nor the things in the world. Again God did not appoint these holidays for us so to love these customs means the love of God is not in us John 17:15-16 we are not taken from the world nor it’s evil which we know is rooted in the customs of this world. We are not of this world hence Romans 12:2 which says we are not to be conformed to this world. Colossians 2:6-8 We are to walk in Christ rooted and built up as we have been taught not by philosophy or vain deceit after the rudiments of this world. 2 Thessalonians 2:15 We are to stand firm in what the Bible teaches not the world and there is only one verse on Christmas and many on worldly traditions both pointing towards a bad notion. Matthew 15:1-3 speaks on the Pharisees approaching Christ on washing hands and Jesus responds why do you transgress the word of God for the sake of tradition. Back to Jeremiah chapter 10 in verse 5 he acknowledges the Christmas tree to be a god. Little g of course for there is but one God. Now what is the curse for putting a cursed idol or false god in your home??? Deuteronomy 7:26 breaks it down quite clear and to all OT haters understand the OT God makes a promise with his people and in the NT he fulfills his promise. I believe, according to Gods words in the text we are given, A God who Shall not lie nor change his mind has spoken it and said it so he will do it and it will come to pass.(Numbers 23:19) And is the same God yesterday today and forevermore Hebrews 13:8. This is more than enough reason not to celebrate Christmas as well as any other worldly gathering/arrangement/ celebration etc. Instead keep Godly precepts and tradition.

[@ash9280]

@@zionwright7 That Jeremiah quote has nothing to do with Christmas trees. IP already did a video on this. The full quote in context is talking about making idols from that wood and trying to anthropomorphizing it. Plus, it is only in Europe the practice of Christmas trees started and no one in the middle east using trees in that manner until Christmas trees became popular. The rest of what you said doesn't apply since it misses totally the point of what I said. God bless you. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZLCiqtplrJ2n6c

[@zionwright7]

@@ash9280 even if the part of Jeremiah misses how about the fact that it started in Europe as a man made tradition. Where in the Bible does it say to utilize Christmas trees? Even still all scripture holds and God warned his people multiple times to not follow after the traditions of men. You can’t disregard scripture. There are only two cups to drink from 1 Corinthians 10:21. You can’t serve two masters Matthew 6:24. It’s the world who is run by the Devil Ephesians 2:2. All scripture I shared points to not following after the rudiments of this world and it’s customs as it is not biblical nor of God but of Men and according to Matthew 7:17-18 bad trees cannot produce good fruit. Why practice a tradition created by man who is always against God because they walk in the flesh and not spirit and the flesh is in enmity with the spirit as it’s under the law of sin. Romans 7:25. Don’t disregard scripture for the pleasures of one day in this world.

[@zionwright7]

@@ash9280 I just studied the Hebraic of Jeremiah 10:1-5 no where in there does it say the tree was carved. It says they cut out a tree from the forest, done by the hands of the workmen with an ax. It means lumberjacks as we know them today went out and cut out trees from a forest. Where in the text does it say he carves an idol with an ax?

[@somebodysomewhere5571]

Very interesting watch. Thanks IP!

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

You are welcome

[@MojoPin1983]

Thanks for clarifying the issue of Yule logs, however, what are we to make of Yul’s (Brynner) logs (diary entries)? Are they derived from pagan traditions? Please make a 7 hour video on this.

[@webslinger527]

I don't he needs to really make a video on that or a 7 hour one. 🤣

[@leahcimmmm]

I freaking died at the mention of a 7 hour vid HAHA

[@WilliamMoses355]

There was a meme a while back, that said something to the effect of, "Keep complaining, and we'll make Toyotathon a Christian holiday, too."

[@ashtoncruzashton4445]

Very helpful brother 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻 a fan of you from India.please never stop your service for god keep going 😎..Lord Jesus be with you

[@zionwright7]

how about this reason. That is a holiday celebrated by the world. God says in Amos 3:3-5 two can not walk together unless they agree. So if you agree with the world which is against God you will do as they do. Jeremiah 10:1-4 speaks on the tradition of Christmas trees and how not to partake in their customs.James 4:4 be not friends with the world for its in enmity with God. You are serving the world by partaking in its customs making you an adulterer to God. Hence why he calls Israel whores in Isaiah 1:21. 1John 2:13-15 tells us that we are not to love the world nor the things in the world. Again God did not appoint these holidays for us so to love these customs means the love of God is not in us John 17:15-16 we are not taken from the world nor it’s evil which we know is rooted in the customs of this world. We are not of this world hence Romans 12:2 which says we are not to be conformed to this world. Colossians 2:6-8 We are to walk in Christ rooted and built up as we have been taught not by philosophy or vain deceit after the rudiments of this world. 2 Thessalonians 2:15 We are to stand firm in what the Bible teaches not the world and there is only one verse on Christmas and many on worldly traditions both pointing towards a bad notion. Matthew 15:1-3 speaks on the Pharisees approaching Christ on washing hands and Jesus responds why do you transgress the word of God for the sake of tradition. Back to Jeremiah chapter 10 in verse 5 he acknowledges the Christmas tree to be a god. Little g of course for there is but one God. Now what is the curse for putting a cursed idol or false god in your home??? Deuteronomy 7:26 breaks it down quite clear and to all OT haters understand the OT God makes a promise with his people and in the NT he fulfills his promise. I believe, according to Gods words in the text we are given, A God who Shall not lie nor change his mind has spoken it and said it so he will do it and it will come to pass.(Numbers 23:19) And is the same God yesterday today and forevermore Hebrews 13:8. This is more than enough reason not to celebrate Christmas as well as any other worldly gathering/arrangement/ celebration etc. Instead keep Godly precepts and tradition.

[@michielvdvlies3315]

im Dutch we still celebrate St Nicolas (december 5th) and St Martin (november 11th)

[@kenolson3064]

Anciently, mistletoe was used on the tip of arrows. It was called the kiss of death.

[@Saint_nobody]

Good point. 😜

[@Legendary_Detective-Wobbuffet]

It killed Thor's brother Baulder. The reason for the season.

[@marcellofunhouse1234]

@@Legendary_Detective-Wobbuffet thor never existed so no it didn't

[@josephmclaughlin6191]

Can't wait for the new videos, Merry Michaelmas

[@albertohernandez8721]

That's on September 29th though

[@mikewilliams6025]

Hi friends!

[@zipper778]

I wish I could like this every time I watch it.

[@danieltinsleykhvsff9622]

IP Is their an easy way too find these sources that you used?

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

The best I can say is to look them up and see. I gave them throughout the video so anyone can do that.

[@SlaveofGod]

And he also put the sources in this video's description.

[@danieltinsleykhvsff9622]

@@InspiringPhilosophy thank you for the information.

[@Logicallymath]

Hey you know some pagens celebrated in winter ON 12/25!? Me so what are you trying to get at?

[@taylor3101]

Really appreciate this Mike! Merry Christmas brother.

[@isaacunderhill9120]

JESUS is King

[@Joe-qs2bq]

I hope you put out a pamphlet/pamphlets or book with all these video responses. Great information 👍 Thank you

[@Survivethejive]

You've certainly done more research than many, and I too find it irritating when people assume a pagan origin without proof. However you have not done a proper survey of the seasonal traditions and some undoubtedly are of pagan origin when you compare them to equivalent traditions for eg. You say krampus is not from Scandinavia while ignoring an obvious parallel of the Julbok. Julbok is not a devil but is a goat man who issues presents and has no connection to Saint Nicholas. The image of father Xmas you showed from 19th century England depicts him riding a goat! Why? The goat motif is found across Germanic speaking Europe. In late Anglo Saxon England there were laws against dressing as cows and deer during Yule as it was considered a part of pagan practice. Yule logs are not attested in paganism but the two month Yule tradition is pagan and we are certain it was celebrated for the two midwinter moons because of the very sources you actually cite. We know from Norwegian, Anglo Saxon and Byzantine sources what Yule looked like and it involves a feast of pork, a swearing of oaths on a pig, a horse sacrifice and masking. Across England the Yule ham was preserved as was the masking custom . In Oxford university the boar's head is still served at Xmas and they sing the boar's head carol which goes back to the Yule pig on which oaths were sworn prior to its sacrifice. We also see that in 15th century England they elected a lord of misrule, where a village idiot was made the king which is an obvious continuation of the Roman tradition at saturnalia in which slaves ordered their masters and roles were reversed. Also what do you make of Wassailing? Obviously singing to a tree and pouring libations to it for fertility is forbidden in the Abrahamic religions and the word wassail is of pagan origin. I'm glad you debunk some myths but you seem to be in denial of you think that there is no paganism in Xmas

[@jaskitstepkit7153]

Of course they'll be some pagan elements in the many countries. But the core is quite Christian.

[@markdemell8056]

Jeremiah 10:3 , amein.

[@albertohernandez8721]

@@markdemell8056 and this has to do with the custom Wassailing, the Christmas boar, and other customs how?

[@markdemell8056]

@@albertohernandez8721 Did you actually read it ? It's obvious that it's of no value to YAHUAH and no value to us. It's useless .

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

What I said is "we will see there is little to no paganism in Christmas." Some of the connections you've argued for are speculative. There is no evidence Krampus comes from the Julbok. The connection you are trying to make is too vague. Tanya Gulevich in "Encyclopedia of Christmas & New Year's Celebrations," that we do not really know where the Yule goat comes from. To quote, "Some authors contend that the Yule goat originated in pre-Christian Yule celebrations. They believe that the ancient Scandinavians dedi- cated their Yule festival to the god Thor, whose companion animal was the goat. According to legend, this Norse god rode in a chariot pulled by two billy goats. Others view the Yule goat as a medieval invention. They argue that the goat typically accompanied the Devil in medieval folk plays performed around Christmas time" (848). So there is no direct evidence that connects it to paganism. It could go back that far, but we do not know. Plus, historians I have read haven't given any evidence Krampus came from yule goats. Again, the Krampus tradition doesn't even come from the Scandinavian region. Also what specific picture of Father Christmas are you referring to? I wouldn't put a lot of stock in modern images, and would rather rely on historical sources. Don't get too caught up in visuals. As for a two month Christmas tradition, I am not sure what you mean. There are traditions of 12 days of Christmas or 25 days of Christmas but I know of no two month time periods associated with Christmas. As for eating pork, that is way too general to make a connection. Pigs are easy to raise and are a common meat source across multiple cultures. People often celebrate with pork, so what? When it comes to the Lord of Misrule tradition, again, there is not a lot of good evidence it goes back to Saturnalia. Gulevich does not suggest it goes back that far and likely has a medieval origin. She says, "The custom reached the height of its popularity in the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries and declined in the seventeenth century. Some writers believe he evolved out of the mock bishops associ- ated with the Feast of Fools. Others guess that the King of the Bean, already popular in parts of continental Europe, may have inspired the creation of this custom" (437). She notes it resembles the ancient custom, but there is too much of a time gap in between the Christmas and Saturnalia custom. The Saturnalia version died out centuries before the Christmas one had its brief popularity. Correlation is not causation. If you think the Lord of Misrule tradition goes back to paganism you need more evidence to form a connection. The English word “wassail” comes from the Middle English phrase "wes heil," which means “be whole” or “be healthy.” I can find no evidence it goes back to paganism and the sources on it come from the middle ages. The earliest i have seen in the 13th century.

[@danielmalinen6337]

Scandinavia has an old Julebukker and Nuuttipukki tradition that is very similar to the Central European Krampus tradition, but only superficially. In Scandinavia, group of young man, who was dressed in sheep skin, bark mask and goat's horns, walked from house to house asking if they had food and beer to offer. And if the house had nothing to offer, this Julebukker made little pranks for the house's people. In old Scandinavian folklore, the goat was an old symbol of fertility and therefore entertaining the Julebukker was believed to bring good luck for the next harvest season. And the origin of the Christmas tree is from the Baltics. Estonia and Latvia argue over which country had the first Christmas tree ever. But later Hanseatic traders spread the Christmas tree tradition to Germany, where it became popular. It is said that when Luther became acquainted with the Christmas tree, he rejoiced and made the tree a symbol of the tree of life, giving it a new meaning. And originally, it was an old tradition in Baltics to burn the whole Christmas tree during the winter solstice, but then the guild of unmarried merchants came up with the idea that it would be safer to decorate the bruce so that burning of this tree would not endanger the nearby buildings. Therefore, candles, roses and straw are the oldest decoration of the Christmas tree.

[@amsterdamG2G]

And He was saying to them, "Neatly do you set aside the commandment of God, that you might keep your tradition. -- Mark 7:9 --

[@lordofhostsappreciator3075]

On the Biblical Case of Holy Tradition: 2 Thessalonians 2:15 "Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the *traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle."* 2 Timothy 2:2 "And the things that you have *heard* from me among many witnesses, commit these to faithful men who will be able to teach others also." 2 Timothy 1:13 "Hold fast the pattern of sound words which you have *heard* from me, in faith and love which are in Christ Jesus." 1 Thessalonians 2:13 "For this reason we also thank God without ceasing, because when you received the word of God which you *heard* from us, you welcomed it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which also effectively works in you who believe." Saint Paul and all the other writers of Scripture were of course divinely inspired. Who says that their divinely inspired teaching is only restricted to written text? Certainly not the Scriptures. And if the teaching he passes on orally was the same as in his letters, it wouldn't make any sense for him to differentiate between the two in his epistles. Yet he does. Btw, check this one out: 1 Peter 1:20 "knowing this first, that *no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation,"* And more: Acts 20:35 Saint Paul cites Jesus as 'It is more blessed to give than to receive.’ ” This is problematic for you, as you don't find Our Lord Jesus saying this anywhere in the Gospels. Meaning, it is indeed orally passed down (Tradition). In 2 Chronicles 29:25 we read that worship is constructed according to the commandment of David. We do not have written testimony of said commandment. David couldn't have invented said Worship himself, God doesn't like that as we know from Nabad & Abihu in Levitikus 10.

[@amsterdamG2G]

@@lordofhostsappreciator3075 Proverbs 3:5

[@danielglazar6811]

I'm unsure as to the relevance of this passage. If you're suggesting that we set aside the commandment of God that we might keep the Protestant tradition of sola Scriptura, well…

[@christeeleison9064]

What has to do the tradition of the pharisees which was uninspired with the tradition of the church? Quote miner?

[@cooper512atx]

Jeremiah 10 KJV 10 Hear ye the word which the Lord speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: 2 Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. 3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. 4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. 5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good. 6 Forasmuch as there is none like unto thee, O Lord; thou art great, and thy name is great in might. 7 Who would not fear thee, O King of nations? for to thee doth it appertain: forasmuch as among all the wise men of the nations, and in all their kingdoms, there is none like unto thee. 8 But they are altogether brutish and foolish: the stock is a doctrine of vanities. 9 Silver spread into plates is brought from Tarshish, and gold from Uphaz, the work of the workman, and of the hands of the founder: blue and purple is their clothing: they are all the work of cunning men. 10 But the Lord is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation. 11 Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens. 12 He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion. 13 When he uttereth his voice, there is a multitude of waters in the heavens, and he causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings with rain, and bringeth forth the wind out of his treasures. 14 Every man is brutish in his knowledge: every founder is confounded by the graven image: for his molten image is falsehood, and there is no breath in them. 15 They are vanity, and the work of errors: in the time of their visitation they shall perish. 16 The portion of Jacob is not like them: for he is the former of all things; and Israel is the rod of his inheritance: The Lord of hosts is his name. 17 Gather up thy wares out of the land, O inhabitant of the fortress. 18 For thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will sling out the inhabitants of the land at this once, and will distress them, that they may find it so. 19 Woe is me for my hurt! my wound is grievous; but I said, Truly this is a grief, and I must bear it. 20 My tabernacle is spoiled, and all my cords are broken: my children are gone forth of me, and they are not: there is none to stretch forth my tent any more, and to set up my curtains. 21 For the pastors are become brutish, and have not sought the Lord: therefore they shall not prosper, and all their flocks shall be scattered. 22 Behold, the noise of the bruit is come, and a great commotion out of the north country, to make the cities of Judah desolate, and a den of dragons. 23 O Lord, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps. 24 O Lord, correct me, but with judgment; not in thine anger, lest thou bring me to nothing. 25 Pour out thy fury upon the heathen that know thee not, and upon the families that call not on thy name: for they have eaten up Jacob, and devoured him, and consumed him, and have made his habitation desolate.

[@nicktigert9416]

Your channel is so awesome 👏

[@tomasznowak3512]

Beautiful Christmas traditions! I know that we are after Christmas but I would like to share with you a beautiful tradition from Poland. Christmas wafer :) I think the best will be if you go to Wikipedia , there is a very good description of it and it meaning The only thing missing there ( Wikipedia ) is the mention that there are 2 types of wafers we use. 1 White, for people and another pink, that we share with our pets in the hope that they will be healthy and happy in the New Year. And that's not a pagan custom either. :)

[@Someone-gb8nf]

based vid but what do you use to make your videos if you don't mind me asking?

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

Adobe premiere and after effects

[@Someone-gb8nf]

@@InspiringPhilosophy thank you

[@CatholicK5357]

Great video. I learned a lot. However, there is definitely strong evidence that Jesus was born on December 25th. The dating of Jesus' conception is calculable by Scripture. The Levite priests performed their duties for a specific time and then the next priest. St John the Baptists dad, the Church can determine when he made the mentioned sacrifices at the temple and was silenced. As soon as you know St John the Baptist's conception, it is easy to put two and two together, since he had been in the womb of St Elizabeth for six months at the time of the Annunciation. With that in mind, it is easy to see that the Catholic Church did not pick the date for Christmas on a whim. In addition to those things, it is likely that Mary herself would have known the birth of her own Son and told the Apostles. It is true that Jews did not normally celebrate birthdays, but that does not mean is date of birth would not have been commonly known amongst them and celebrated later by the Christian gentiles. Also, the suggestion made by some ignorant people that shepherds would not have been out with their sheep in winter is not true, and here is why. There were one group of shepherds, the ones whose duty it was to watch over the sheep chosen for sacrifice, who needed to keep the sheep all year around. And it is by Divine Providence that the very shepherds keeping watch for the sacrificial lamb would have been chosen to be witnesses to the true Lamb of God.

[@motlhaedimokando4729]

Any scriptural reference?

[@CatholicK5357]

@@motlhaedimokando4729 Yes. In my comment I stated that the calculation of when St John the Baptist was conceived can be done with Scripture, and that the other dates can be determined once that is known. That is how we have the date of Xmas. Modernists want to paint ancient Christians as idiots, but they were often smarter than us. The date was not picked out of thin air.

[@TomDabektv]

Great video, thanks for the sources!

[@mathew4181]

13:33 The date of December 25th

[@BibleVersionConspiracy]

Thank you for this video! It was very informative!

[@AnonNorwegianPartiot]

I think all of this is great work IP. Personally, I don't really think it matters if many Christmas practices actually did have pagan origin, (maybe with the exception of the date). For example, if a false King claimed the throne, his subjects would hail the false king as the true king. They would toast in his name, praise his rule and honour his regalia as symobols of being their true king. However, lets say it was then later discovered that this king was a false king, that he had schemed and mainupulated his way to the throne and the people were shown the true king. The people would throw out the false king, they would spit on him for claiming to be the true king and condemn him for his lies. Now the true King sits on his throne. The people would toast in his name, praise his rule and honour Him as their true King. The throne the true King sits on is the same as the old, the toasts the same, his praise the same and his regalia the same as the one of the false king. However, the fact that the old false king had these things does not make these things wrong in and of itself. These practices are merely customs to honour something good and true. It is not the customs that is at fault, but the whether the customs are adressed to something good and true or something false. For example, in Norway it was customary at the old Yule Blót to toast to the gods, Odin and Thor. When Norway was Christianised, Yule moved to 25th of December and Yule became the name for the Christmas celebration, the toasting practice was continued, but instead of toasting to Odin and Thor, it was to toast to Jesus and Mary. I quite frankly, see nothing evil or sinful in this practice. Before, the toasting was made to false dieties, after it was made to honour what was good, holy and true. Sometimes practices are wrong in and of themselves, but unless by Divine Command we are forbidden from practicing these customs, it is good to honour something as true and to celebrate it. tl;dr The fact that some customs are pagan in origin does not make them evil when used to celebrate God

[@LyngkotSwer]

Romans 1:18-32 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools, ...

[@zionwright7]

how about this reason. That is a holiday celebrated by the world. God says in Amos 3:3-5 two can not walk together unless they agree. So if you agree with the world which is against God you will do as they do. Jeremiah 10:1-4 speaks on the tradition of Christmas trees and how not to partake in their customs.James 4:4 be not friends with the world for its in enmity with God. You are serving the world by partaking in its customs making you an adulterer to God. Hence why he calls Israel whores in Isaiah 1:21. 1John 2:13-15 tells us that we are not to love the world nor the things in the world. Again God did not appoint these holidays for us so to love these customs means the love of God is not in us John 17:15-16 we are not taken from the world nor it’s evil which we know is rooted in the customs of this world. We are not of this world hence Romans 12:2 which says we are not to be conformed to this world. Colossians 2:6-8 We are to walk in Christ rooted and built up as we have been taught not by philosophy or vain deceit after the rudiments of this world. 2 Thessalonians 2:15 We are to stand firm in what the Bible teaches not the world and there is only one verse on Christmas and many on worldly traditions both pointing towards a bad notion. Matthew 15:1-3 speaks on the Pharisees approaching Christ on washing hands and Jesus responds why do you transgress the word of God for the sake of tradition. Back to Jeremiah chapter 10 in verse 5 he acknowledges the Christmas tree to be a god. Little g of course for there is but one God. Now what is the curse for putting a cursed idol or false god in your home??? Deuteronomy 7:26 breaks it down quite clear and to all OT haters understand the OT God makes a promise with his people and in the NT he fulfills his promise. I believe, according to Gods words in the text we are given, A God who Shall not lie nor change his mind has spoken it and said it so he will do it and it will come to pass.(Numbers 23:19) And is the same God yesterday today and forevermore Hebrews 13:8. This is more than enough reason not to celebrate Christmas as well as any other worldly gathering/arrangement/ celebration etc. Instead keep Godly precepts and tradition.

[@anser105]

We are indeed forbidden to practice those customs you mentioned. Deut 12:30-31 makes it very clear. Remember that the Israelites worshipped the golden calf while at the same time Aaron proclaimed a "festival to the LORD" (Ex 32:5). In their hearts and minds this was a proper way to worship God, however, for the Almighty this was a great abomination.

[@onvogmasaj]

Merry Christmas, IP!!

[@TheGiantSlayer1]

it comes down to who gets to decide how we worship God. Is it us or is it God. If It is us, then God is out of line Cain and for Aarons sons. If It is God who says how we are to worship Him, Then He would have put the customs of Christmas in scripture, and He would have set apart and commanded the day's observance. We could burn a log named after a pagan god, and engage in the customs that the pagans readily lay claim to - all the while ignoring that as proof while saying that their is no proof- but I think of Malachi 2:3 and it being a provocation of God to say "we're going to do our thing our way in the customs that we like, and we will worship in our own way". Deut 12 “When the Lord your God cuts off from you the nations which you are going in to dispossess, and you dispossess them and live in their land, 30 be careful that you are not ensnared to follow them, after they are destroyed from your presence, and that you do not inquire about their gods, saying, ‘How do these nations serve their gods, that I also may do likewise?’ 31 You shall not behave this way toward the Lord your God, because every abominable act which the Lord hates, they have done for their gods..."

[@sethtipps7093]

That's cute. Here's a counter: Jesus Christ Himself celebrated a man made holiday. John 10:22,23 has Jesus celebrating the Festival of Dedication aka Hanukkah 🕎. No matter how you slice it the Festival of Dedication is a man made holiday, not one instituted by God in the Torah and before Christ's institution of the New Covenant. I'm sure you can come up with some kind of mental gymnastic for why Jesus, Who knew no sin, fulfiller of the law, the perfect Lamb, is guilty of the deed you insist is wrong and exactly as you described it. But we both know it'll be just that: an ad hoc, special pleading, have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too argument. "We could burn a log named after a pagan god" Are you talking about a Yule log? This was addressed in the video. There is no god called 'Yule.' There is no evidence that the log can trace its origin back to a pagan holiday. The very first recording we can find of such a log it was called a Christmas log and only later did it come to be called a Yule log. Either way, does anyone even do Yule logs anymore?

[@TheGiantSlayer1]

@@sethtipps7093 "I'm sure you can come up with some kind of mental gymnastic for why Jesus, Who knew no sin, fulfiller of the law, the perfect Lamb, is guilty of the deed you insist is wrong and exactly as you described it." On the contrary. I see Jesus keeping what we see in 2 Chronicles 7:8- " So Solomon held the feast at that time for seven days, and all Israel with him, a very great assembly that came from the entrance of Hamath to the brook of Egypt. 9 And on the eighth day they held a solemn assembly, because they held the dedication of the altar for seven days, and the feast for seven days. 10 Then on the twenty-third day of the seventh month he sent the people to their tents, rejoicing and happy in heart because of the goodness that the Lord had shown to David, to Solomon, and to His people Israel." Feast of Dedication/ AKA Hanukkah is Biblical even before John.

[@sethtipps7093]

@@TheGiantSlayer1 Oh good, so you agree with me then since the passage you listed is neither Torah nor mentioned to be commanded by God like the festivals in Leviticus. It was a completely human made affair during Solomon's (a king made famous for his paganism) reign. Or is your -cherry picking- criteria simply if it's _mentioned_ in the Bible? Lots of paganism is mentioned in the Bible, I guess that's okay then 😉 And you're also wrong because Solomon's Dedication would have been in the 900s BC; the Feast of Dedication, aka Hanukkah, several centuries later to commemorate the Maccabean revolt and the dedication of the temple after it had been desecrated by Antiochus. So no, you just found a passage you thought you could use and completely ignored actual history. And just to drive home that the dedication you mentioned isn't the same as what is celebrated by Jesus in John 10; 1 Kings 5 and 2 Chronicles 8 both mention that the temple was dedicated by Solomon in the 7th month of the ecumenical year, Ethanim, which is in the fall between September and October during the already, God ordained, Torah listed holiday of the Feast of Tabernacles. John 10 is *not* the Feast of Tabernacles but is the Feastival of Dedication which John explicitly states is in the winter, a month or two later ie Hanukkah. Nice try on the mental gymnastics but you didn't stick the landing. Next time actually check to see if the holiday is actually the same one! 🤣

[@TheGiantSlayer1]

@@sethtipps7093 I'm trying my best to hear what you have to say, but Im only hearing how you say it.

[@TheGiantSlayer1]

@@sethtipps7093 Once we are saved, we are to live like Jesus right? OF course. Jesus was sinless right? I mean obviously because if He wasn't then He wouldn't be the Messiah and Savior. What is sin? 1 John 3:4 states that sin is Lawlessness. Its the violation of the Law of God. So, We are to live like Jesus- who was obedient to God's Law We are to live by the Holy Spirit, which according to Hebrews states, writes the Law of God on our hearts and minds that we might be obedient: Hebrews 10:15-16 15 And the Holy Spirit also testifies to us; for after saying “This is the covenant which I will make with them After those days, declares the Lord: I will put My Laws upon their hearts, And write them on their mind Because we are under Grace, which Titus tells us redeems us from every Lawless deed For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all people, 12 instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously, and in a godly manner in the present age, 13 looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus, 14 who gave Himself for us to redeem us from every lawless deed, and to purify for Himself a people for His own possession, eager for good deeds.

[@haze300]

I am a grumpy and militant atheist before. But now I am more tolerant about religious customs when I studied them more. While I retained my stance about the not believing of existence of any dieties, I still respect the Christian traditions especially Catholicism since its truly shaped the Western world we see today. I can't imagine the world without the church preserving classical knowledge after the fall of Roman Empire. And most Western Philosophies, originated from them.

[@traceursebas]

Astounding work!

[@DarkSolidity]

This is a very cerebral take on the matter, however the iconography of Santa Claus and decorating with ever green doesn’t point to Jesus in the slightest nor is there anything resembling Christianity in the practice of this tradition.

[@droe2570]

You're arguing something he never argued. But good job, I guess....

[@lordofhostsappreciator3075]

Wrong. The fur tree with it's triangular shape symbolically stands for the Trinity. Decorating the tree stems from the tradition of Adam & Eve plays, in which they would decorate the tree with Apples (now seen in the red bulbs) among other things, to represent the paradise tree. Santa Klaus is a postmodern inversion of Saint Nicholas, this much is true.

[@DarkSolidity]

@@lordofhostsappreciator3075 there isn’t any scripture that backs up that the triangle shape of a pine tree representing the trinity. On the other hand there are a plethora of examples of pine trees being used and recognized in pagan rites and as a fertility symbols. Likewise Santa Claus has absolutely zero to do with the message of Jesus or his birth if he was in fact born on December 25th at all. Santa Claus is a distraction from the message of Jesus plain and simple.

[@DarkSolidity]

@@droe2570 he talked about Christmas trees and Santa Claus, this is exactly on topic

[@droe2570]

@@DarkSolidity No it's not. The topic is the origin of this or that tradition as best we can tell from historical sources. He did not address that at all.

[@jamiehudson3661]

Great research and video quality!

[@vandango901]

Whether Christmas is pagan or the traditions are more modern, it's way too easy to celebrate Christmas without once hearing the name of Jesus. I think this is why so many people ask about the true origins of Christmas. Outside of the nativity scene nothing in Christmas is related to Jesus. It's more about the traditions and myths we have developed around the winter season. This video has not convinced me that Christmas is anymore about Jesus than I had previously thought.

[@whywearehere7517]

True! Unbelievers kept saying merry Christmas at the same time used to curse the name of Jesus Christ what a world we live in,!The world is full of lies and with the pinches of truth to blind you from the real truth! I don't say you won't be saved by celebrating Christmas but it is a deceiving tradition that makes people focus on Their temporary lives focus on money and tbh rarely it is about giving it is spending too much when you don't have enough too much material too much feel good about themselves . Making them feel good but never grow in the knowledge of God, because they too focus on earthly things this is one way the Devil works

[@TSN-WVK08]

Christ is literally in the name my guy.

[@vandango901]

@TSN-WVK08 Ok, but Christ is not the name of Jesus and Christmas is not the first name of the holiday. The tradition was around long before the word Christmas existed. Regardless, You shouldn't need it to originally be Christian to enjoy it or celebrate it as you always have. I'm Christian but have no issues with any of this. Christmas being an appropriated holiday is a non issue.

[@polumathes9729]

@16:53 you say here that it is true that December 25th was the date of the Solstice on the Julian Calendar, or at least one potential date along with December 23rd and 26th. My understating is that the Julian calendar has a 13 day differential from the Gregorian, for example, Old New Year’s is on January 14th, and Old Style Christmas is January 7th. Wouldn’t that place the Solstice on January 3rd?

[@Berkana]

On the gift giving one (#6 at 6:28) I don't think you're representing the challenge correctly. The challenge isn't whether or not gift giving indicates pagan origins, but whether there was a prior pagan winter festival where gifts were given, from which Christmas inherited the tradition. I had heard that the Roman Saturnalia was the wintertime festival pre-dating Christmas where gifts were given. This would be a much stronger case that should be examined. This is not to say that gift giving is therefore wrong, but it is important to note that many other holidays do not entail gift giving, yet Christmas does. The question of where this arose from ought to be fairly addressed. The matter of whether or not this is therefore wrong to do is another matter. I don't think it is wrong, as the gifts are not given in honor of some pagan deity.

[@droe2570]

We don't actually know that gifts were given during Saturnalia. Some sources say there was such a tradition, some say there wasn't, and that it was just a period of debauchery. Saturnalia was not celebrated on 12/25. Also, correlation is not causation.

[@vitaliiukraine4662]

@@droe2570 I watch this film .It seems to me that authors became advocates of all holiday traditions as it never ever be connected with Paganism .But back to gifts giving-you may check this one about Saturnalia gift giving here :kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGKuapikesuWeZY also December 25 th has as probable origine in Sol Invictus holiday ,-Christians were influenced to tend choose this date before others because of that ,even if calculation theory has some sense to be true that this date did proposed by Julius Africanus and others decades back earlier than pagan festival began . But this also could be debatible who was the first one .Many customs like Christmas tree ,Yule logs ,caroling , gifts giving have pagan rather than medieval roots. I see it in our Slavic customs -many customs like sitting at a table at Christmas and a place for angels is actually for the deceased ancestor, poppy and wheat porridge that was put in the corner is also for the dead, as the name of the "Generous Evening" is associated as Halloween with the dead in ancient Slavic festivals ,now deeply connected with Christmas . It's not only Saturnalia ,it's worldwide ,I wonder the authors of the film who do not see this, but explain everything to the Middle Ages or Modern Time . I assume that this is combining all traditions and complete or partial rethinking of them in a Christian manner and made by this some kind of syncretic ,not based by biblical data soly holidays .

[@droe2570]

@@vitaliiukraine4662 Maybe, maybe not. We don't know. But either way, it does not matter. Also, the authors of this video did discuss the oldest known records regarding those things. Maybe re-watch the video.

[@zionwright7]

how about this reason. That is a holiday celebrated by the world. God says in Amos 3:3-5 two can not walk together unless they agree. So if you agree with the world which is against God you will do as they do. Jeremiah 10:1-4 speaks on the tradition of Christmas trees and how not to partake in their customs.James 4:4 be not friends with the world for its in enmity with God. You are serving the world by partaking in its customs making you an adulterer to God. Hence why he calls Israel whores in Isaiah 1:21. 1John 2:13-15 tells us that we are not to love the world nor the things in the world. Again God did not appoint these holidays for us so to love these customs means the love of God is not in us John 17:15-16 we are not taken from the world nor it’s evil which we know is rooted in the customs of this world. We are not of this world hence Romans 12:2 which says we are not to be conformed to this world. Colossians 2:6-8 We are to walk in Christ rooted and built up as we have been taught not by philosophy or vain deceit after the rudiments of this world. 2 Thessalonians 2:15 We are to stand firm in what the Bible teaches not the world and there is only one verse on Christmas and many on worldly traditions both pointing towards a bad notion. Matthew 15:1-3 speaks on the Pharisees approaching Christ on washing hands and Jesus responds why do you transgress the word of God for the sake of tradition. Back to Jeremiah chapter 10 in verse 5 he acknowledges the Christmas tree to be a god. Little g of course for there is but one God. Now what is the curse for putting a cursed idol or false god in your home??? Deuteronomy 7:26 breaks it down quite clear and to all OT haters understand the OT God makes a promise with his people and in the NT he fulfills his promise. I believe, according to Gods words in the text we are given, A God who Shall not lie nor change his mind has spoken it and said it so he will do it and it will come to pass.(Numbers 23:19) And is the same God yesterday today and forevermore Hebrews 13:8. This is more than enough reason not to celebrate Christmas as well as any other worldly gathering/arrangement/ celebration etc. Instead keep Godly precepts and tradition.

[@droe2570]

@@zionwright7 "That is a holiday celebrated by the world." Let's see. Graduation is celebrated by the world. Birthdays, the birth of a child, job promotions, and many more. Also, are you saying we should not celebrate the birth of Christ?

[@kennystrawnmusic]

Very fitting that this video would release on the same day as the official lyric video to a song of mine about this very subject. Excellent job debunking these claims, Mike.

[@austinapologetics2023]

Ironically, there are alot of myths about Christmas being stolen from other myths holidays

[@aioniansage6081]

You calling Santa a thief ?

[@azurephoenix9546]

Of course Christians can develop their own traditions. My family has since the 1800s given oranges in stockings for Christmas and we still do it. Why? I really don't know exactly why it started, probably the availability of oranges suddenly due to train travel, but my great grandmother said it is to remind us that the sun will come again to brighten the world. Does that mean we stole it from pagans? Lol. Happy Christmas, IP

[@biblehistoryscience3530]

You missed the coincidence of Antiochus IV who fulfilled prophesies about the Antichrist before Jesus said those were still in the future, making him a shadow or type. “On the 25th day of the month Kislev in 168 B.C. Antiochus IV, also know as Antiochus Epiphanes, head of the Seleucid dynasty, took over the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. He set up a statue of Zeus in the Temple and sacrificed a pig on the bronze altar to Zeus.” --Source: “Why December 25th” Nov 14, 2017, Jewish Awareness website.

[@billcipher2769]

My friend InspiringPhilosophy, what music/song are you using in this video? I love it.

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

It was something I found on envato a while back, I can’t remember what it was called.

[@opalsirius8484]

I'm glad you've researched this because I had been convinced bringing in a pine tree into the house is = to celebrating yule = to worshiping Odin. Before this brainwashing some groups love to exercise on Christians (especially Catholics like me), many years ago, my German friend had actually told me a story with which she'd grown up, that I really liked and chose to believe: she said the tradition of lighting up candles on the branches of pine trees (replaced with electric lights once invented and for safety reasons) for Christmas came from the end of the 30 years (religious) war. As the end was declared in a town on Christmas Eve night, the two rivaling bands hung their weapons from the branches of an enormous pine tree and lit a bonfire, happy to putting an end to the war. The Treaty of Westphalia was signed not long after. So, the tradition was more of a putting aside differences to celebrate the birth of Our Lord and Savior. I'd much rather believe that tradition 😊

[@toshamccarty5115]

Thanks for sharing this; it does sound very good, and not implausible.

[@zionwright7]

how about this reason. That is a holiday celebrated by the world. God says in Amos 3:3-5 two can not walk together unless they agree. So if you agree with the world which is against God you will do as they do. Jeremiah 10:1-4 speaks on the tradition of Christmas trees and how not to partake in their customs.James 4:4 be not friends with the world for its in enmity with God. You are serving the world by partaking in its customs making you an adulterer to God. Hence why he calls Israel whores in Isaiah 1:21. 1John 2:13-15 tells us that we are not to love the world nor the things in the world. Again God did not appoint these holidays for us so to love these customs means the love of God is not in us John 17:15-16 we are not taken from the world nor it’s evil which we know is rooted in the customs of this world. We are not of this world hence Romans 12:2 which says we are not to be conformed to this world. Colossians 2:6-8 We are to walk in Christ rooted and built up as we have been taught not by philosophy or vain deceit after the rudiments of this world. 2 Thessalonians 2:15 We are to stand firm in what the Bible teaches not the world and there is only one verse on Christmas and many on worldly traditions both pointing towards a bad notion. Matthew 15:1-3 speaks on the Pharisees approaching Christ on washing hands and Jesus responds why do you transgress the word of God for the sake of tradition. Back to Jeremiah chapter 10 in verse 5 he acknowledges the Christmas tree to be a god. Little g of course for there is but one God. Now what is the curse for putting a cursed idol or false god in your home??? Deuteronomy 7:26 breaks it down quite clear and to all OT haters understand the OT God makes a promise with his people and in the NT he fulfills his promise. I believe, according to Gods words in the text we are given, A God who Shall not lie nor change his mind has spoken it and said it so he will do it and it will come to pass.(Numbers 23:19) And is the same God yesterday today and forevermore Hebrews 13:8. This is more than enough reason not to celebrate Christmas as well as any other worldly gathering/arrangement/ celebration etc. Instead keep Godly precepts and tradition.

[@tippiebear1069]

Giving gifts on Christmas is in the Bible Matthew 2:11

[@treetopher9342]

"The tradition of kissing under the mistletoe started in ancient Greece, during the festival of Saturnalia and later in marriage ceremonies, because of the plant's association with fertility. During the Roman era, enemies at war would reconcile their differences under the mistletoe, which to them represented peace. Romans also decorated their houses and temples with mistletoe in midwinter to please their gods." "There is also a Nordic myth concerning mistletoe, and it goes like this: The plant was sacred to Frigga, the goddess of love, but Loki, commonly known as the god of mischief, shot Frigga's son with a spear or, in some tellings, an arrow carved from mistletoe. Frigga revived her son under the mistletoe tree and decreed that anyone who stands under the mistletoe tree deserves not only protection from death, but also a kiss."

[@albertohernandez8721]

Source?

[@JGez83]

If you are goin got tell the Nordic myth correctly, Loki hands the blind god Hod a spear of mistletoe and tells him throw this at Baldur. Because the other gods were throwing objects at Baldur and watching them bounce off harmlessly. Hod didn’t know the spear would kill his brother. Secondly Baldur doesn’t get revived by what you are saying. He remains dead until the Raganarok when the world ends and he is resurrected becoming the new king of of all gods and bringing in an era of peace harmony and propsperity

[@zionwright7]

how about this reason. That is a holiday celebrated by the world. God says in Amos 3:3-5 two can not walk together unless they agree. So if you agree with the world which is against God you will do as they do. Jeremiah 10:1-4 speaks on the tradition of Christmas trees and how not to partake in their customs.James 4:4 be not friends with the world for its in enmity with God. You are serving the world by partaking in its customs making you an adulterer to God. Hence why he calls Israel whores in Isaiah 1:21. 1John 2:13-15 tells us that we are not to love the world nor the things in the world. Again God did not appoint these holidays for us so to love these customs means the love of God is not in us John 17:15-16 we are not taken from the world nor it’s evil which we know is rooted in the customs of this world. We are not of this world hence Romans 12:2 which says we are not to be conformed to this world. Colossians 2:6-8 We are to walk in Christ rooted and built up as we have been taught not by philosophy or vain deceit after the rudiments of this world. 2 Thessalonians 2:15 We are to stand firm in what the Bible teaches not the world and there is only one verse on Christmas and many on worldly traditions both pointing towards a bad notion. Matthew 15:1-3 speaks on the Pharisees approaching Christ on washing hands and Jesus responds why do you transgress the word of God for the sake of tradition. Back to Jeremiah chapter 10 in verse 5 he acknowledges the Christmas tree to be a god. Little g of course for there is but one God. Now what is the curse for putting a cursed idol or false god in your home??? Deuteronomy 7:26 breaks it down quite clear and to all OT haters understand the OT God makes a promise with his people and in the NT he fulfills his promise. I believe, according to Gods words in the text we are given, A God who Shall not lie nor change his mind has spoken it and said it so he will do it and it will come to pass.(Numbers 23:19) And is the same God yesterday today and forevermore Hebrews 13:8. This is more than enough reason not to celebrate Christmas as well as any other worldly gathering/arrangement/ celebration etc. Instead keep Godly precepts and tradition.

[@treetopher9342]

Jeremiah 10:1-25 ESV Hear the word that the Lord speaks to you, O house of Israel. Thus says the Lord: “Learn not the way of the nations, nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens because the nations are dismayed at them, for the customs of the peoples are vanity. A tree from the forest is cut down and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman. They decorate it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so that it cannot move. Their idols are like scarecrows in a cucumber field, and they cannot speak; they have to be carried, for they cannot walk. Do not be afraid of them, for they cannot do evil, neither is it in them to do good.”

[@rustydowd879]

That is about carving an idol out of wood and leafing or gilding it in gold, not decorating an intact tree.

[@treetopher9342]

@@rustydowd879 The verse following Jeremiah 10:5 "They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good."

[@rustydowd879]

@@treetopher9342 , It is saying idols can't speak or walk on their own. This is all nearly the exact language used to describe idols in Psalm 115:4-7: 4 Their idols are silver and gold, the work of men's hands. 5 They have mouths, but they speak not: eyes have they, but they see not: 6 They have ears, but they hear not: noses have they, but they smell not: 7 They have hands, but they handle not: feet have they, but they walk not: neither speak they through their throat.

[@hilarygodfrey2348]

@@rustydowd879 xmas tree is a classic example of an idol.

[@rustydowd879]

@@hilarygodfrey2348 , a classical example of an idol is an effigy usually of human or animal form that is believed to be imbued with the supernatural presence of a spirit. A Christmas tree is a decoration. It doesn't have a supernatural dimension to it. It has lights and smells pleasant because Winter in the far northern hemisphere is depressing. If someone believes the tree has a spirit in it, or it is in itself sacred, they are idolaters. If you are using it to uplift your mood, it as much an idol as a lamp or wall art. Have you all ever looked into scrupulosity?

[@kingdroz]

What do 1-10 have to do with our Messiah? Our Elohim laid out in his word when his Holy days are and how we are to worship him. Taking things that may have roots to how other Nations worshiped their gods and incorporating these things in the worship of our Elohim and then claiming that these things somehow honor him, is doing what He specifically said not to do. People seem to forget that we are to be Followers of our Messiah, we are to live like he lived. 1 John 2:6. Our Messiah didnt come to start a new religion. People would be better served turning back to the Bible and His ways then messing around with these silly traditions. There is a reason Christianity is falling apart, churches are empty, young people have no interest. The churches have now become social clubs that are tolerant of all kinds of Sins. Our Messiah said in Matt 24 Because Lawlessness will abound the love of many will grow cold. People would be well served asking themselves how is Sin biblically. I would start with 1 John 3:4.

[@kingdroz]

@Prasanth Thomas they are empty because, like our Messiah said "lawlessness will abound and love of many will grow cold" the rejection of our Creator's word is the root cause of lawlessness which is rampant throughout the church. People replaced the Commandments of God with traditions of men, and we are surprised that things are falling apart and that we have luke warm "christians"

[@kingdroz]

@Prasanth Thomas once again, what did our Messiah say? "Lawlessness wil abound and the love of many will grow cold" this isnt just about "christmas" this is about the rejection of God's instructions on how to live, how to worship him. Christians are claiming to be followers of Messiah yet refusing to walk as he walked and live as he lived. People are making things up and claiming it honors God or saying "God knows my heart". Christmas is just one example on this. So especially the things listed 2-10 have no place in the worship of our Creator. Those claiming that they do are fooling themselves. "Come out of her my people"

[@kingdroz]

@Prasanth Thomas you should read the comment again. " Our Elohim laid out in his word when his Holy days are and how we are to worship him. Taking things that may have roots to how other Nations worshiped their gods and incorporating these things in the worship of our Elohim and then claiming that these things somehow honor him, is doing what He specifically said not to do. People seem to forget that we are to be Followers of our Messiah, we are to live like he lived. 1 John 2:6. Our Messiah didnt come to start a new religion. People would be better served turning back to the Bible and His ways then messing around with these silly traditions. There is a reason Christianity is falling apart, churches are empty, young people have no interest. The churches have now become social clubs that are tolerant of all kinds of Sins. Our Messiah said in Matt 24 Because Lawlessness will abound the love of many will grow cold. People would be well served asking themselves how is Sin biblically defined. I would start with 1 John 3:4" Churches empty and people are luke warm because of "lawlessness" People are turning away from Gods instructions of how to live and how to worship him and are making up their own ways and bringing in a bunch of garbage (2-10) which have no place in the worship of our King. This video was made about items 1-10. You keep talking about item #1. We can further talk about item #1 but if you cant see that items 2-10 have no place in the worship of our God then im not sure if its worth talking about item #1.

[@kingdroz]

@Prasanth Thomas Even if early Christians celebrated “christmas” it doesn’t mean they were bringing in worldly idols (2-10) into their celebrations. What is happening today is nothing like what happened a millennia ago. Today people think that they can worship our Creator however they please and think it honors Him. They couldn't care less about what our Creator says about how he wants to be worshiped. You can go ahead and keep bringing the idols into your home and think it somehow honors your King. The truth is that most supposed “believers in Jesus” are claiming to be followers of Messiah yet refusing to walk as he walked and live as he lived. This is the reason our savior said “Lawlessness will abound and the love of many will grow cold” because the definition of “Sin” is breaking our God’s Laws. And most Christians live Lawless lives and they have been taught that God’s Laws don’t matter. So I implore you, cast down your idols, your worldly traditions, repent, come out of the world and turn back to Elohim’s Ways.

[@marvalice3455]

I think that the idea that they are pagan comes from a thread of iconoclasm that still exists im the chruch. some people just don't like they idea of anything being associated with Christianity

[@petery6432]

let me guess. All ten of them have Pagan Origins, right? 😉😉 That's what Godless Mom said, and she even linked a Wikipedia article. 🤣🤣

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

LOL

[@peri5966]

@@missouritravelers what was Jesus carrying up skull mountain? 🚬

[@Saint_nobody]

@@peri5966 "skull mountain", geez we should call Golgotha by its English-ized version more often. 😁👍

[@mikewilliams6025]

@@missouritravelers Show me a yule log in pagan history

[@godschild2432]

Do not be deceived Christmas is a man made celebration pagan or not

[@KillerofGods]

It's not, idr wanna copy past the same comment all over again and get flagged for spam. Go look at any number of my replies to other people here if you're interested. I left plenty of them in the newest comments.

[@CatholicK5357]

Whenever people bring up the pagan stuff these days, I just ask them where the pagan origin was for the penitential Advent and Lenten fasting, the Christmas Star, Nativity plays, the Christ - "Mass" (Christmas), the 12 day season of Xmas, the eight day Xmas octave, the Epiphany, the "X" symbol for Christ in the short form of Xmas to depict Jesus on the Cross, the Jesse Tree, the Advent Wreath, the traditional Christmas Eve fast, Christmas Carols & hymns, and last but not least the Christmas Carol movie. Usually they don't want to discuss it anymore if I make it to the end.

[@skanderberg8701]

Some miracles 1.Eucharistic miracles 2.Miracles of Lourdes 3.Incorrupt body of St. Francis Xavier, St. Bernadette 4.Liquifaction of blood of St. Janerius 5.Levitation of St Joseph of Cupertino 6.Our Lady of Fatima 7.Conversion of satanic priest Blessed bartolo longo because of Rosary 8.Stigmata of St. Padre Pio, St. Francis of Assisi 9.Lepanto victory due to rosary 10.Our Lady of Velankani 11.Our Lady Of Guadalupe 12.Our Lady of the Pillar 13.Miracles of St. Anthony