Top Ten Tractors: Allis Chalmers Edition

[@MikeBrown-ii3pt]

The name may be gone but, it will NEVER be forgotten! ORANGE POWER!!!

[@AllisChalmersMN]

The foot clutch on the WD/WD 45 stopped the tractor moving and the PTO. The hand clutch only stopped the movement but allowed the PTO to remain working.

[@timgilchrist3065]

I was holding out for the D17 for 1st place. I always said that they were the biggest little tractor ever made. I still have my Series III that my dad bought new in '64.

[@MikeBrown-ii3pt]

I'm restoring the very same 1963 D-17 that I grew up with on our family farm in the 70s and 80s. I also have our 7080 waiting her turn. Unfortunately, the family farm is long gone. However, I kept track of my favorite tractors, through various sales, over the years. As soon as I had enough room and money, I bought them back. My wife, the neighbor girl, grew up with them too so she's all in on their restorations!

[@timgilchrist3065]

I am slowly getting it back up. I have almost everything working, just trying to save up for a paint job. I still use the other tractor my dad bought new, 175 gas. I had an engine fire on years ago. I had already contacted my local dealer to come get and start on it and the insurance adjuster told me to hold off until they decided if they were going to total it. I snapped back that I didn't care if they wanted to total it, it was going to be rebuilt.

[@MikeBrown-ii3pt]

@@timgilchrist3065 ORANGE POWER WILL NEVER DIE!!!!!

[@NEAFarmKid4010]

They were indeed the biggest little tractor ever made. We have a '67 Series IV Gas, and it is one of the best tractors we've ever owned. Hydraulics are great, and the engine always starts, no matter what.

[@ericrobbins400]

I agree. I got a 1958 D17 and love that thing. She needs a little lovin here and there but someday I'll get her lookin new.

[@DLTJR1959]

My pop sold them for 25 years. Around here the D17 ruled. I started out on a WD 45 and then we upgraded to D17's, a 180, and an 8050. My neighbor bought a 170 from dad that he still uses today. Thanks for the video.

[@bradhaenitsch1145]

That name will live on because it’s big muscle allis we all love em

[@jeffrobison2013]

you might have described the clutches wrong on the WD, the foot clutch stopped everything and the hand clutch only stopped the wheels giving you live power pto for the dam rotto baler. lol , can you tell I run one of those balers many hours. when they worked good they were nice but when they didnt you wanted to pull your hair out. lol

[@slundgr]

You are correct. My uncle had one of those WD 45 tractors we used for row crop. Great for cultivating because of its size and turning radius.

[@clembuck6006]

Crazy D, your number one pick wd 45 is the tractor i gtew-up on.My dad had for many many years.i remember making square bales with that tractor in the late seventies. Pretty strong machine hand clutch came in handy.

[@bradhaenitsch1145]

Mighty handy that hand clutch was especially picking corn

[@CarWizard]

Do they make super cars?

[@ryanferguson9942]

WIIIIIIIIIIZZZAAAARD

[@chrissollazzo6835]

Great and informative video. I'm partial to the 170 diesel only because I own one and it's been a very reliable tool on our property. I think they made around 8500 of them from 68 to 73. Almost half of them built in 68 alone. Thanks for the videos!!

[@koabd4351]

I agree ,we have 2 of them and a 175 with same engine , great size for us

[@case8309]

Wow i was supper surprised that the D21 wasn't first, and just as surprised that the 220 wasn't on the list. But very good video thanks!

[@raymondmarek4080]

Why not the WC???

[@chrisjones8138]

I had the 190xt for 3rd 2nd or 1st place. We still have ours and I am 14 years old. 120hp and a whole lot of kickass. We still have our D-15 series 2 narrow front. We have our 185 with a loader and we had a lot of others but some burned up in the corn dryer fire like the D-17 allis series 3 (which is my uncle’s favorite) we had a 175 allis with the loader in it then we had problems so we got the 185. We also had an 7030 or an 8030 or something like that.

[@MrDaChicken]

We has a CA, a WD45, and a D15, all gas. All excellent tractors that could do work WELL above their weight class. As far as I know, our D15 is STILL working this year , pulling a hay rake...

[@expendablepawn4878]

Lot of AC tractors and Eqp in my area. Thanks for the vid

[@joecrumpler]

The D-10 / D-12 was very popular on small farms for cultivation work in tobacco patches here in eastern North Carolina,

[@johnhalter7287]

Number one has to be the WD but I would like a D17 personality, grew up on a D14 and have a soft spot for them.

[@robertlong7033]

Good work D but as was mentioned earlier the D17D and D19D belonged in there somewhere along with the 185. The 17's were the every man's tractor and if you were lucky enough to have a D19D you were the talk of the neighborhood. But at least the D15 got in . But still you did good.

[@CrazyDEquipment]

You know I agree with you they probably belong on the list I thought to U tractors belongs on this list but when people are voting they just don't no I couldn't believe we didn't have the John Deere a on the John Deere top 10 but it got voted out

[@lorenhelmuth4171]

Can't be a legitimate list without the D-17

[@hunteryager8860]

I got the d17, wd45, and wd. Great tractors

[@paulhudson8321]

The 7000 series were a good looking design which still holds up today.

[@littlerougue]

Glad the D21 made the list I would like to have one just because it is the same and Nissan's designation for the hardbody pickups

[@timgilchrist3065]

I had a red belly 7000. Loved the transmission with the 3 speed power shift.

[@adamwilley2055]

Love my AC tractors. I owned a 68 ac180. Hard to believe the 7045, 7060, 8070 or the d17 didnt make the list

[@jeffkreuziger1984]

I love my WD45 mine is a 1954 with power steering

[@geou1606]

Aftermarket power steering? We have a ‘53 WD45 it didn’t come with power steering but it was put on later

[@clembuck5885]

Can a 8n Ford handle a 6 foot finishing mower ?

[@ryanfowler6900]

D15 series II also has a larger displacement engine. Bore is 1/8in bigger.

[@robertpayne2717]

We never had many AC's dealers in Northeast Arkansas were numerous John Deere and IHC DEALERS ALONG WITH A FEW J.I. CASE AND FORD DEALERS BUT VERY FEW ! We had one neighbor who used mostly AC up untill he rented a bunch of ground from a land company that was also an IHC dealer in the late 1960's. But, Pete passed away in the mid 1970's RIP Pete Smith.

[@dankarp5477]

Loved the video. We have an All is Chalmers 180-7000 and a M2 combine. We had a D17. Thanks for the videos. You have a new subscriber.

[@deanbarr5740]

That was some good history. The funny thing is your #1 in the line up you said 1963 to 1967 this model would set you back #2400.00. If you had one in mint condition you could probably get 4 times that. Awesome video, i enjoyed this.

[@CornPopMillerJr]

Great video! I was glad to see the 45 take the number 1 slot. I've got a NF WD that I use regularly and I'm in the process of restoring a WF WD45. I think the WCs should get an honorable mention just based on sheer production numbers. I should be near done with my styled WC restoration in a few weeks. I found it in a barn last spring in Minnesota. Someone had added an aftermarket hand clutch and lopped off the hand brakes and converted them to foot brakes. I can't wait to get on it. I also own a B and half an A. Last year I also bought half (my dad paid half too) a UC high crop from a sugar cane farm in Mississippi. Dad has an unstyled UC, but neither of us had ever seen a UC high crop.

[@tastas02]

Don't know squat about these tractors, they are not very common over here. But they sure look good, thanks for the sum up.

[@paulg444]

im outraged, no where on this list is my Allis Chalmers 416 garden tractor with the Kohler 341 !

[@CanadaClassic]

I have a 1985, 416 hydro with a 16hp twin Briggs in it. I absolutely love it!

[@Yosemite-George-61]

What was wrong with the 8550 ? My favorite tractor (looks wise, I'm not a professional)

[@russbowman6801]

You know a lot about older tractors. Say I was a prepper looking for an older tractor that is pre-computerized junk and smog control. I would be looking for something in a small farm scale practical sense, say 30 to 50 hp, powerful to pull a double bottom plow with a PTO able to do useful work. I would need to find one that has a lot of the same make out there for parts and for now, I could buy parts normally used to service this tractor. That would be things like filters, spark plugs, etc. I would not be partial to one brand or another, what ever works and is strong with few weaknesses, that is what I would look for. So, that would be the top 10 all time old time tractors good to use for preppers wanting to live off the land as much as possible? What would you recommend? I have a MF150, 3 cylinder gas engine, 3 speed, two ranges and everything works. I think this and the MF135 would be a good choice for the above, some Ford tractors, International Harvesters, and what else? The ten best tractors for preppers would run with either choice of fuels. Gas would be more common, but diesel lasts longer and does not go sour as fast as gas does. What say you?

[@SekhmetSecretWeapon]

I'm just curious, has your company ever sold 'electric power transformers' in New Orleans during the 1970's??? my supposed 'dad' worked at Allis Chalmers and always told me he sold 'electric transformers' so Im a bit confused now.. THANK YOU!!

[@CrazyDEquipment]

Allis Chalmers built a lot more stuff than just tractors they built electric motors electric transformers they built big industrial engines they built construction equipment they built power turbines they built tons of stuff from the early 30s all the way up to the eighties when the company was broken up

[@SekhmetSecretWeapon]

@@CrazyDEquipment THANKS SO MUCH FOR THAT!!!!

[@jdtractorman7445]

So the difference between the regular 190 and the XT is the XT is turbocharged and the regular one isn't? I always liked the 7000 series AC tractors. Their cabs were the quietest in the industry when introduced I believe.

[@gobig1416]

How do you have a video about the top 10 Allis-Chalmers tractors and not have the Allis chalmer U

[@redbovine]

The 190XT always holds a special place for me. I still like the 7040-7080s though.

[@douglasmacarthur8775]

Allis Chalmers owners have a yearly huge show every year in Hutchinson MN.

[@sykostevesfupadventure]

Man I was hoping to see the CA make the list. Little but mighty

[@paulg444]

This is insanity, I waited for 10 minutes and he never got to the Allis Chalmers 416H with the Kohler 341 cast iron engine !!!.. Im speechless!!

[@keescapri]

love it dave

[@billstractorcorner]

How the heck did the B not make this list?? I call shenanigans!!

[@michaelholderegger645]

I'm late to the party, and maybe somebody said this already but you are wrong on the double clutch system of the WD. The foot clutch stops everything, and the hand clutch just stops the wheels while keeping the PTO and hydraulics going. The hand clutch is wet, like you mentioned, and shares fluid with the PTO, but both are separate from both the hydraulic system and the transmission/differential, and then there's the final drives in the wheel hubs of course that have their own fluid.

[@kylebass4635]

Not many Allis tractors in my area. I liked the A. 8.2 liter engine pistons had to be the size of a coffee can.

[@MikeBrown-ii3pt]

You should buy one. Add some color to your surroundings lol! I grew up on pretty much all A-C equipment and STILL bleed Persian Orange!

[@kylebass4635]

@@MikeBrown-ii3pt yes everything around here is red and green. I would like to have one but I bet it would be expensive.

[@MikeBrown-ii3pt]

@@kylebass4635 Red tractors are ok. That "other company" paints theirs green so that it's harder to see them broken down in the fields lol! Maybe not as expensive as you think. Check out a few auctions in your area. Good tractors can be bought cheap if you know what your looking at. Pretty paint doesn't always mean good and rust/dents don't always mean bad. Also, if you don't have money, room, time etc. for a tractor of your own, check into a subscription to Antique Power Magazine. It's a very nice bi-monthly magazine that covers all brands. In my opinion...well worth the $30 subscription price to put old tractors in the mailbox 6 times every year. There's also the option of lawn/garden tractors. I have a few old Cub Cadets that I play around with. They're dirt cheap, easy to work on and can mow the lawn as good as, or better than newer machines. My Cub 1330 is a great mower all summer long, and, my 1605 has a 42" snowblower that gets regular workouts most winters.

[@kylebass4635]

@@MikeBrown-ii3pt your exactly right. Ide rather have one that doesn't look the best but runs good. I used to have a John Deere 1950 model MT that did really well.

[@daddynichol52]

Did AC build their own engines during their run?

[@dennishayes65]

daddynichol52 Yes

[@thegreenerthemeaner]

@@dennishayes65 When they acquired Buda Diesel, they used them in the 45 and the Dozers. I am curious how much Buda technology carried over.

[@jvin248]

Surprising how such a utilitarian product, farming tractors, had such small production runs with frequent model changes. Seems like a better plan would be longer runs to thin fixed tooling costs and lower owner replacement part costs. Might be good to see what are the 'top ten tractors' with the largest and longest production runs. Ford n-series, Ferguson 20/30/35/135 series, etc probably fit that. Those would have the most easily obtainable parts today.

[@davidbalvin8112]

I don't know if the round baler sold a lot of WDs or the WD sold a lot of round balers for Allis, but just about every Allis owner I knew back then had both. I just know that using that baler with a tractor without live PTO was a real pain.

[@jdmastertech]

Um the hand clutch on the wd stopped wheel movement not pto

[@countrygent4]

There were 2 Series of the D21. The Series 1 did not have a turbocharger the later Series 2 had a turbo and a huge horsepower increase. The last picture in your line up was a Series 1 shows the exhaust going directly into the muffler. All your other pictures show the decal and back near the operator station it says it is a Series 2 and is turbocharger.

[@br927]

Had a xt 190, to replace a MF 178, because the 178 could barely pull a IH 16" 5 bottom plows! Run a few D17's and had one of those roto balers! Ya, for the WD 45!!

[@budafarms]

My great grandpa bought a ‘60 d17 gas and in ‘62 d19 propane and here 2 years ago we bought a 7040 and my other uncle has a 190xt the 190 had the same problem as the d21 the would blow out the back end

[@garybarrett6581]

great job love AC love the graphics too lam a loyal AC and loyal mr D follower in are collection we have 4 wd45s one from each year made l be watchin for the next one D!!!!!!!!

[@amynorrad5854]

Nice.Would really like to see some Belarus stuff sometime

[@CrazyDEquipment]

I possibly will hear I like to do a video on Belarus but I just got to find the right subject matter

[@wisetireswise6497]

No D17?

[@CrazyDEquipment]

Actually I agree with you on the fact that the D17 didn't make the list but it's all by voting so

[@martingardener90]

The A was a powerful tractor but the U would do nearly as much work on half the fuel, I would change the A for a U! And as I have a D272 I'd have liked it on the list!

[@Heimerviewfarm]

I'm honestly surprised a d-17 made the list considering it was an upgraded wd

[@CrazyDEquipment]

Yeah me too I'm also surprised the D19 didn't make the list either

[@RJ1999x]

Upgraded WD? Not even close. They share absolutely nothing

[@Heimerviewfarm]

@@RJ1999x it was the horsepower upgrade to a wd-45

[@RJ1999x]

@@Heimerviewfarm not really, it didn't share anything with a WD45 other then the same cubic inch. You could argue it was the progression of the tractor, but that would be like saying a 4020 was an upgraded 730 .

[@Heimerviewfarm]

@@RJ1999x the d-17 was the wd-45 replacement

[@thomaspayne9343]

I had a 7000 and a 5050. Wish I still had the 5050.

[@NEAFarmKid4010]

The difference between the C and B wasn't really the tricycle front end. No, the B couldn't be bought with a tricycle front, but the C could be bought with a wide front. The difference was in design. The B was a one-row machine, while the C was a two-row machine. Same concept as the Farmall A and B

[@hubertbergen3000]

WD and WD 45 used 226 c I power crater engines

[@billfischer9041]

The wd did not have the power crater engine

[@carlhelmick7711]

Well I think everybody was wrong on all tractors. I Honestly believe that all these tractors are number one. You cannot beat the old school tractor. I loved everyone of them. And wish I had bill gates money. Because I would own at least one of each one that was built. I grew up on a farm there's not many tractors I didn't get to get on. Loved everyone of them. I have a friend his son works on a farm. Since the farmer just bought a brand new john deere last year got that ,def, He said stays in the sharp morning does the field. None but than a piece of crap nowadays. Anyway I like all of those Tractors I think they're all number 1. 😀👍

[@robellenberger6816]

Thought I would have seen the 8070

[@robellenberger6816]

@Hunter Jacobs I dont think so lol pretty darn old not much power and not very advanced

[@CrazyDEquipment]

Hey Rob and Hunter hey guys all these tractors were voted on by the subscribers of the channel and they picked the order and what tractors are on here sometimes I don't personally agree with the ones that they pick but these are the ones that were voted for and in the order that they won the vote each one of these videos we spend about a month and a half taking votes and ranking tractors before these videos come out

[@noelstractors-firewood57]

The other difference, I think, in the D 15 and D15 series ll is the steering wheel. One was white and one was black. Great videos thanks. I own a 1951 TEA20 Ferguson.

[@douglasmacarthur8775]

at 3:50...............AC 180 ........YES ! at 5:10.............ALL 190's...........NO........they were "LL" ( LOUSY LEMONS ) No argument with your #1 !

[@jeffjohnson7507]

Think you forgot the "WC" It was probably the tractor that put Allis -Chalmers 0n the Map!! We had a 1941 WC in in the 50"s and Did a great job-for that era of Tractors! I still have it & runs great- Also have a restored 1937! Otherwise Great video on Allis Orange- Thanks!!

[@CrazyDEquipment]

Yeah I agree with you the WC definitely deserve to place in the video but it was put up twice in the rounds of voting in both time lost really bad I think from now on I might put a honorable mention part in these videos this would be the third time that I think a tractor should have received recognition but was completely voted out of the running

[@billfischer9041]

The wc was the most produced tractor from allis. The wd comes in second. The d17 should have been on this list.

[@roadrunner3563]

CA was the best all round small tractor ever

[@robertwestfall3703]

The 8550 or 4w305 should have been on here

[@MarkBlackford-x4q]

You need to get better information on Allis Chalmers tractors, grew up on them and still use.

[@thomasreinhardt77]

What about the WC? I thought they built 175,000 WC’s.

[@Carter-oy4tu]

The best is the 7000

[@vaughndibble4598]

The D19 was the first factory turbo charged tractor

[@velezdragon3574]

I call bs on hp ratings on the 190xt my dads dynos at 120 hp

[@gobig1416]

Yeah I'm going to call BS on that unless your dad's tractors injector pump was turned up when I worked at the Alice dealership in the mid-70s they were only rated 77 horses engine horsepower

[@CrazyDEquipment]

But David that's why they came out with the the 190xt it was rated I believe 93 horsepower

[@velezdragon3574]

@@gobig1416 my dads was rebuilt in the 80s and they did put stronger pistons in ,and a bigger turbo

[@velezdragon3574]

@@CrazyDEquipment we had it dynoed and with the updates allis did in the 80s on it makes roughly 115-120

[@troyelam7141]

Foot clutch stops wheels and PTO. Hand clutch stops just the wheels.

[@joeyw8521]

No d17 what you must not be a Allis guy cuz any allis guy would no d17 is top 3 forsure. Opinions vary. Great tractors

[@brucegordon4924]

In 1963 119HP D21, 426ci Diesel. This was the only tractor in excess of 100 HP to be designed for both drawbar and varied row crop work. " The Allis Chalmers Story" : (C H Wendel). Enjoy your Channel! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGLTo56wa7apnas

[@roysimmons9806]

C had a lower gear ratio than the B . This gave it a little more power, but made it a little slower.

[@anthonyklein2944]

Chalmers is plural, not singular! ;-)

[@RJ1999x]

Just a note, you shouldn't get your tractor information from tractor data, half their information is wrong, and nobody ever refered to an Allis Chalmers engine by liters

[@CrazyDEquipment]

I did use tractor day there but I also used a few other on Allis chalmer and I used and several books

[@RJ1999x]

@@CrazyDEquipment You have some of the technical data wrong. But great video my friend

[@CrazyDEquipment]

@@RJ1999x I try very hard to get everything correct I kind of makes me sad that stuff is incorrect still thank you for coming in and watching I do appreciate that

[@RJ1999x]

@@CrazyDEquipment it's not your fault, it's tractor data. I don't know where they get that info from. Plus you tried so👍👍

[@mikewarfel7511]

You continue to comment on AC tractors while admitting that you know very little about them. Maybe you could find someone more knowledgeable, with some real experience related stories to spice up the dry facts