Top Ten Underrated Games from Popular Franchises ft. Count Shaman

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Even in the great franchises, there are good games that slip under the radar. Count Shaman is here today to help me find Top Ten Underrated Games from Popular Franchises!
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[@joshscorcher]

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[@CEWinick]

Glad to see it, the animation was great.

[@stormshadowproductions1660]

Do you take countdown request?

[@lonewolffang]

As much as The Guardian Legend never had a sequel or a franchise, I still would make to see a continuation.

[@Twilight17Petkoton]

Yeah think again it not balance on Final Fantasy 13 because of BS combat so The Completionist and Fiery Joker never say FF 13 is a balance game. It more to complicated on story. Look at ClementJ64 on Final Fantasy 13 see for yourself.

[@Pepperknight341]

Okay, one. How do you think Secret Rings is better than Black Knight? Two, you choose Secret Rings over Riders?

[@keybladeoverlord]

Josh is never gonna hear the end of it from the Sonic and the Black Knight fans. I should know, I'm one of them.

[@voltingmaster5458]

Josh is now on my Blacklist

[@AfroXaolin2023]

Unfortunately, I love this game too. It’s one of my childhood gems.

[@HenshinFanatic]

Secret Rings was better, sorry not sorry.

[@AfroXaolin2023]

@@HenshinFanatic Not Saying Black Knight’s Better, I love it JUST as much as Secret Rings.

[@crimsonflame2k]

This isn't the first time Josh has shown some favor for Secret Rings but apparently detests Black Knight. Remember his "Games I Love and Hate" list?

[@temmietoga5369]

Fun Fact: The Genie of the Ring was an actual genie in the story of Arabian Nights and was not made up by Sonic Team for Secret Rings

[@andreasmeelie1889]

I always wondered about that but wow! Mind blown! What was the story?! EEP!😍

[@jaketaller8567]

Another Fun Fact: The Genie of the Ring was supposed to be in Disneys Aladdin alongside Robin Williams’ Genie.

[@dragonreaper9850]

The more Josh shows Battle Network, the more I want him to talk about it.

[@tyrant-den884]

Right!? It was popular enough get spin offs and anime and manga, and anime and manga for the spin-offs, and I swear more people talk about Legends.

[@tyrant-den884]

6 games and more people talk about how to get slightly darker armor in Legends.

[@supremeseregios6810]

Speaking of Battle Network, I was playing Double Team DS recently. I've been trying to complete the Standard Chip collection to get through the Post Game, and I had to escape fights against Omega Navis excessively.

[@tyrant-den884]

@@supremeseregios6810 you are giving me some traumatic flashbacks to BN2, everything was going so well until I had to find a Zap Ring 2 b just to advance the plot. Never could find one.

[@supremeseregios6810]

@@tyrant-den884 I've only gotta find 2 more chips to have all Standard Chips. They're still gonna be annoying to obtain. Getting Navi +20 cost me 4 encounters with ShadeMan Omega.

[@jacobkohr7243]

Pokemon Colosseum and XD. Those two are criminally underrated. Edit: For those saying conquest, I agree. I just wasn't a huge fan of it. I get why people like it though and also hope it gets a port/remake/sequel/something for those who did enjoy it.

[@Zacman1123]

Yes

[@toumabyakuya]

I don't know chief, with how often haters bring those two up when talking about Sw/Sh I would say the don't qualiffy anymore.

[@jacobkohr7243]

@@toumabyakuya True

[@CountShaman]

@@toumabyakuya Also Josh would kill me for bringing those up for this topic, let's be real here lol

[@RudyBlackman]

What about conquest

[@maelys199]

Editing E Gadd's head over Jim Carrey is such a mood.

[@SiRenfield]

Honestly yeah the film version of Lemony Snickety isn’t a good adaptation of the books (objectively) and Jim Carrey was a little miscast, but it’s still a guilty pleasure of mine 😂

[@ArceusBowser212]

2 words. POKEMON CONQUEST. Easily the most underrated gem in the Pokemon series.

[@toumabyakuya]

I mean, it doesn't help at all that it got release less than half a year prior to the release of X/Y.

[@Ramsey276one]

I got it Gotta get it back in my 2DS!

[@BJGvideos]

Such a good game. I'm hoping Age of Calamity being such a hit will cause Koei Tecmo to delve back into their other Nintendo crossovers

[@derrickhaggard]

Agreed. That was a awesome game. Heck Nintendo was planning on doing a spiritual successor to Pokémon Conquest via a crossover title between Pokémon and Fire Emblem however the concept of Pokémon X Fire Emblem was scrapped in favor of the crossover concept that was Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem which eventually got released as Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE. I still hope Nintendo, and The Pokémon Company revisit the idea of a Pokémon X Fire Emblem title, and work with Intelligent Systems to make it a reality. And yes I have several ideas on how to incorporate Pokémon into a Fire Emblem type setting.

[@BJGvideos]

@@derrickhaggard Making a musou game based on the ancient Kalos war would be fantastic

[@fernandodavidpaezcontreras6586]

I like Mario & Luigi: Partners In Time. I had no idea it was overlooked.

[@minasthirith6314]

Every mario and luigi games got a 3ds remake. Exept this one. Granted, I don't really wanna see a hd shroob OR what they'd do with the darkest plot ever in a mario game...

[@pikasparkle485]

Same... It was one of my first Mario Games... EVER!

[@motherfuckingenterprises7436]

It was one of my first RPGs!

[@michaelnelson1127]

Yes! Megaman StarForce! This series was actually my introduction to Megaman. Granted, I first saw the anime on Toonami (great opening, btw), but it got me interested in the games. And honestly, I was surprised to find out that this game’s style was an outlier in the franchise. Weird, I know, but I’m so happy it’s getting attention!

[@saphiriathebluedragonknight375]

I got the first Star Force game thinking it was Battle Network. I fell in love.

[@darkmetaknight7]

One game I feel is unfairly underrated is Kirby epic yarn. Sure, you technically can't die, making the game super easy..... if you're playing casually. It's like the Yoshi game where the insant you go for a 100% run you see how difficult the game really is. Also it's one of the most precious game I've ever played.

[@autismandgaming4532]

Could not agree more, the multiplayer & apartment customisation’s the bomb as well

[@mr.sniffly5297]

Don’t get me started on getting the gourmet race track in castle dedede. Took forever on the wii and then the 3ds version might as well just give it to you

[@vgamer4993]

Did... did Josh just imply that Secret Rings is... _better_ than Black Knight? What upside-down, inside-out, hellworld have I found myself in?

[@DragoSonicMile]

The same world we live in now? A world where opinions are not always equivalent to facts? ... I guess I'll woosh myself.

[@Driff97]

I'd say it's more of a pick you poison scenario. Secret Rings is tolerable if you can get past the gyro controls. Black Knight is tolerable if you can get past the endless swinging of your remote. Of course, both are very hard to get past, and clearly didn't work for many people. With that said, I really hope Josh doesn't harp on the soundtrack of BK as well. I'm not too hot on the game but the soundtrack is easily top 10 material for the franchise.

[@amirgarcia547]

Welp, I guess I’m the weirdo who likes Secret Rings and despises Black Knight due to never being able to stomach swinging around the Wiimote like an idiot or its edgy story-

[@krimsonkatt]

@@amirgarcia547 I like "edgy" stories (more like stories with actual emotion, twists, and good characters) and wiimote flicking (not waggling, you just have to flick the remote for it to work) far more than a glorified mobile game brought to console with some of the worst motion controls on Wii, terrible implemented RPG mechanics, (and I normally love RPG mechanics) a bad story, (though Shara is a cutie uwu) the complete overuse of the crush 40 song used in literally every menu and before and after stage theme, the terribly implemented mission-based gameplay with unclear objectives, and crap final boss, but that's just me. For me, black knight is actually one of the BETTER "modern" sonic games along with Generations and Unleashed.

[@flightg97shadowgarth32]

@@krimsonkatt Seven Rings In Hand was made by Rumblebee and sang by Steve Conte. Jun Senoe (of Crush 40) isn't even involved with the music of Secret Rings. I agree with your point nevertheless.

[@BugsyFoga]

I feel like ratchet deadlocked is a pretty underatted ratchet game .

[@ackbarfan5556]

Last one I played of that series since I never got a PS3.

[@greatsageclok-roo9013]

Testified. It's fucking amazing... but almost every Ratchet and Clank fan forgets that it exists!

[@henmo24]

3rd Favorite R&C game

[@rossman8919]

Run ratchet run

[@KaimArgonarEyyyy]

Love the atmosphere of that game.

[@ntheultimate6781]

I'm happy to see that StarForce is high up! That series means a lot to me!

[@crossbuster4192]

Same here

[@ForrestFox626]

I wish getting the games were easier said than done

[@ntheultimate6781]

@@ForrestFox626 Then it's a good thing that I got StarForce 3 around when it was still new!

[@ForrestFox626]

@@ntheultimate6781 I think the first games is the most expensive, thought three will still cost some cheese

[@NowRacattackForce]

Don't know why Shaman got mad at Josh for just watching the Path of Radiance cutscenes on KZbin. It's either that or magically find $300 in the couch cushions.

[@AntiR2525]

"Your window was open again" *quickly hides my self-made backdoor key that works* You know the backdoor lock is universal, right?

[@CountShaman]

The virgin Superstar Saga : Less than a minute long entry The normie Bowser's Inside Story : Over a minute long entry *THE CHAD PARTNERS IN TIME : 5 MINUTE LONG COLLAB ENTRY* Also, the amount of disagreements on these entries kinda just solidifies the picks if anything lol

[@christiandauz3742]

PIT is basically WW2 Mushroom Kingdom-Poland Bowser's Kingdom-Soviet Union Shrooms-Nazi Germany

[@tybuss6211]

@@christiandauz3742 I, that, why is that sound wrong but actually fit

[@christiandauz3742]

@@tybuss6211 Concentration Camps. CONCENTRATION CAMPS! The Final Boss uses Kamikazis. Nintendo is Japanese

[@tybuss6211]

@@christiandauz3742 again it fits, but sounds all sorts of wrong, I sorta made the parallels between them, but I hate the parallels are there

[@christiandauz3742]

@@tybuss6211 This is intentional. Japanese game after all. Joscrocher's Top 10 Darkest Mario Moments

[@shark6228]

I feel like Metroid Fusion or Metroid Prime hunters is just as under-rated and over-shadowed in the Metroid series

[@DreadnoughtDT]

Hunters actually has a pretty damn good single player despite being a spinoff. The Gorea fight is a heck of a boss too.

[@sinteleon]

Both are overlooked and underrated... but not as much as Metroid Prime: Federation Force.

[@justinnzamora5366]

Even though they're honorable mentions, I'm glad Pokemon Ranger Shadows of Almia and Pac-Man World 2 were acknowledged.

[@tjh6678]

There is Pac-Man World 2 background music, which earns this vid bonus points from me!

[@XeroUltima199]

I love Shadows of Almia

[@justinnzamora5366]

@@XeroUltima199 It's my favorite out of the three Pokemon Ranger games.

[@kieranstark7213]

Yes! People who acknowledge not only Pac-Man World 2 (in fact, I know I’m heavily nitpicking, but if this were tied with Pac-Man World 1 (PS1), Pac-Man World Rally, Ms. Pac-Man: Maze Madness and the Ghostly Adventures games, it would be full circle), but also Pokemon Rangers: Shadows of Almia (Pokemon games after Generation 1 are only underrated by Genwunners who think nostalgia wins over experimentation, but PRSOA, is one of those cases where even a famous franchise can have a poorly known entry. This is the case with most Super Mario World hacks that aren’t The Second Reality Project series or Mario’s Mystery Meat).

[@mythicalthings1796]

>Liking Seven Rings over Black Knight Imagine being so wrong.

[@shadowlinkbds]

Underrated things have always intrigued me much more than the popular stuff. Things that are talked about all the time you usually know what to expect. Things that are underrated or overshadowed by others you never know what to expect. And once you discover that underrated gem you wish that it will always get that much attention and love it deserves like other popular stuff. With that said I wonder what underrated gems to expect on this video.

[@michaelnelson1127]

Ooh. This seems like an interesting topic. Also yay, Count Shaman is getting more attention! As for my predictions, I hope Kirby Mass Attack is mentioned.

[@InumiDarkness]

Im not sure which is more underrated: Epic Yarn, Mass Attack or Dream Course?

[@CountShaman]

@@InumiDarkness If I didn't miss out on playing Rainbow Curse, that would've been the Kirby pick for the list.

[@andrewhaase1826]

Honorable Mentions: *Pokemon Conquest -I freaking love this game for the idea and gameplay alone. I still pray that a sequel will be made with more pokemon and more attacks for them to work with. And bring mega evolutions! *Dark Souls 2 -The black sheep of the franchise. The only things I didn't like were the limited enemy respawns and HP cap lowering mechanic every time you die. Other than that, the game is still pretty good. *Batman Arkham Origins -For what it's worth, the game played and controlled great and the bosses were still enjoyable. I never got why people give this game flak. It doesn't seem to be doing anything wrong. *Banjo-Kazooie Nuts and Bolts -Don't give me that look, I like this game, ok? I didn't mind the vehicle building feature and had little to no trouble using it or the vehicles themselves (unless you make one that intentionally controls poorly). I was tempted to include the GBA spin-offs, but I haven't played them. *Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex -This was the very first Crash game I ever owned. The Original Crash 4 before Crash 4. And it gets swept under the rug. But I still have a soft spot for it, this has some of my favorite OSTs in the series. Special shout out also goes to Crash Twinsanity for doing something a bit different with the established formula and hunor.

[@BJGvideos]

Megas in Conquest means one thing MEGA BLACK RAYQUAZA and are we ready?

[@amirgarcia547]

I didn’t hate Arkham Origins, but it just felt kinda lackluster compared to Asylum and especially City, which makes sense since it was handed off to a different developer (WB Games Montreal) while Rocksteady was working on Arkham Knight at the time. That and the game was quite buggy, but WB prioritized working on the Mr. Freeze DLC instead of fixing said bugs, which I honestly think was really dumb.

[@Hilversumborn]

Arkham Origins is IMO the 2nd of the franchise

[@Savagewolver]

“I have a front door!” I want that on a T-Shirt so badly. Make it happen, Josh.

[@oldschoolman9878]

Both Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn have gained quite the cult following thanks to every Smash Bros. game since Brawl. And it’s scarcity have made both games coveted collectors items in the retro games market. I was lucky to get them both years ago.

[@LotteYanson]

Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn are what set my standards for modern home console Fire Emblem games so it’s a shame that they didn’t sell as well. Although I’d argue that the Jugdral saga on the SNES is even more overlooked than the Radiance series

[@atld1414]

Yeah especially since, for thracia 776 at least, many fans call it the “hardest game in the franchise” which turns off many people from playing it. When in actuality the game can be busted open when you know what you’re doing (hello crusader scrolls, capture, and random movement level ups), the problem is that it’s really vague on gameplay mechanics. Hell, thracia came with a whole cassette tape just to teach you the gameplay. Edit: I forgot to add the main reason as well, ITS A JAPANESE EXCLUSIVE

[@Practitioner_of_Diogenes]

In the FE community, I'd argue Jugdral isn't overlooked, but overrated. You want overlooked or underrated in FE franchise, it'd be Shadow Dragon.

[@LotteYanson]

@@Practitioner_of_Diogenes The thing is this isn’t about the FE community. This is about the general mainstream audience. Most people at least know who Ike is through Smash. Or they’d know games like Awakening and beyond because they’re super popular Only people in the FE community would know a character like Sigurd or Lief.

[@amirgarcia547]

Also, after the segment at the beginning of the video, I imagine Sephiroth turning around and drawing Masamune and being like “don’t test me, Pinnochio.”’

[@Teachermook]

I'm guessing from the intro your still salty about sepiroth. Ah well. Maybe we can still find fan art of Geno, Shantae, and Kefka at a bar.

[@sarahtelles1931]

Did you see the video he uploaded earlier

[@Teachermook]

@@sarahtelles1931 yup

[@manuelalbertoromero9528]

Shantae: hold up. I have not thrown the towel yet

[@GodOfOrphans]

Out of all of those I think Shantae deserves it the most, got started on Nintendo consoles, large chunk of the fanbase owns a Switch, no prior series representatives and a moveset perfect for Smash as it is, and not in any other fighting games yet. As much as I love Kefka his powers don't translate super well to a Smash Bros. format and he's already in Dissidia and there's already two FF characters in the game with no obvious heroic counterpart either since FFVI has no real main character, also personally if I had to pick another FF rep I would want Kuja, Gabranth or Garland personally. Geno straight up does not deserve to be in Smash, he is a side character in only one game and is only ever relevant because of memes, and aside from nostalgia blindness cannot understand why anyone would seriously think he should be in smash over literally countless other better candidates. So yeah Shantae for Smash, and or Risky Boots.

[@tonysonic456]

Don't forget Frisk, Crash, and Dante.

[@ackbarfan5556]

Call of Duty 2: Big Red One. That comes to my mind in a heartbeat.

[@theeternalslayer]

Finest hour as well.

[@behindtheheart6512]

“Sonic and the secrets rings is underrated.” No it’s not. Also, how is black knight bad?

[@markfrey6664]

Yeah Black Knight is a far better game and a lot less of a mess.

[@sonicstar917]

Secret Rings was FRUSTRATING to control at times.

[@JCBro-yg8vd]

Sonic and the Secret Rings is part of why Sonic 06 was a disaster. Nintendo wanted a Sonic game for their new console and Sega couldn't figure out how to get 06 to run properly on the Wii's underpowered hardware. So they split their development team in two and assigned half of the staff previously meant for 06 to work on Secret Rings for Nintendo. So that made 06's troubled production even worse.

[@sonicstar917]

@@JCBro-yg8vd It also didn't help that Yuji Naka left mid-production.

[@markfrey6664]

@@sonicstar917 Another major issue with Secret Rings was it's completely non-linear story progression. You had to do a bunch of random side missions to unlock the new area and then they hard lock you behind getting one specific Secret Ring for the fire boss which means...even more unneeded side missions. Sure they did the same thing with the Wii version of Unleashed but in that game the controls were so much better and the missions less infuriating. Also....screw the Secret Rings Super Sonic Variant. Black Knight's Golden Armor Sonic is so much more badass than a bad reskin fusion of Sonic and Shadow.

[@LightningStarSC]

Mega Man Star Force is on the list. I'll overlook the slander on Black Knight this time.

[@nicholasrosko3050]

I agree that PIT had that way that stayed with me. It doesn't help that the M&L, and Luigi's Mansion are cannon of the main Mario games.(In my book)

[@battleaxe9145]

19:00 Hey, I liked black knight AND secret rings.

[@Ramsey276one]

Read a bigger comment saying the opposite... SO I SCROLLED DOWN And here we are! XD

[@derrickhaggard]

Same here.

[@MrSailing101]

oh my god 14:55 viewing dead space footage always filled me with a sense of confusion, as I felt like I had seen the game before, but it couldn't be right because dead space is in third person and the game I remembered was in first person. My cousin had dead space extraction. that's what I was remembering.

[@carsonmichalowski6075]

So many games I like were mentioned in this I thank you for that. From the Radiant Saga of Fire Emblem, to Pokemon Ranger: SoA (The best one in the series,) Mega Man Star Force (criminally underrated,) and Mario & Luigi Partners in Time (my favorite in the Mario & Luigi Series) You brought attention to games I've been recommending to people for years. Thank you. Some of my best memories are of me and my cousin fighting each other in the Mega Man Star Force vs. Across all 3 games. Ah memories...

[@ProfDragonite]

Path of Radiance and Chain of Memories were two of my favorite games as a teenager, and were directly responsible for my gaming tastes. Thank you for bringing attention to them.

[@DragoSonicMile]

10: Chain of Memories was my introduction to the Kingdom Hearts franchise. I've been strapped to the train by a rope ever since. Krillin: "Phrasing! ... I mean, help!"

[@chrsuppe]

gee what kingdom hearts game will he chose this time then

[@Artemus973]

Chain of Memories most likely

[@sarahtelles1931]

That was the first Kingdom Hearts game that I played, and that must be why the card system didn't seem weird to me. It was fun. Though I have lost it since then

[@Artemus973]

@@Bigwigrah07 Hey, nothing wrong with giving some of your favorite franchises some love, even on repeated accounts so long as there's something different he wants to talk about it each time

[@GodOfOrphans]

@@Bigwigrah07 Better to stick with what one knows than try and claim authority over something outside of one's wheelhouse and subsequently make a fool of oneself. You'd be surprised how often even seemingly intelligent people fall for that mental trap and lose all credibility in the process, they almost always double down on their stupidity too. It's basically 80% of all internet falls from grace lolcows in a nutshell.

[@jaydenc367]

I thought most liked black knight more honestly.

[@annacaligan8352]

Not going to lie, I LOVED Mario and Luigi Partners in time!!! The story to me was great, the interaction between the bros and the baby's are beyond adorable, the music is fantastic, and the shroobs were terrifying enemies. This is my favorite Mario and Luigi game.

[@grand_master_of_izalith7186]

I wish I could like a comment more than once, because I've never agreed with one more

[@multilad816]

34:01 That one was not fair because Mario was framed for vandalizing much of Delfino Island

[@celebisonm4271]

Kirby and the amazing Mirror perhaps?

[@Kismet006]

You don’t wanna know how happy I am to see PiT in the number 1 spot. That game was the pinnacle of my childhood and I missed playing it so much when I had to give the cartridge it was in (It was a card with multiple games in it), because my ds broke and it didn’t work on my 3ds. So glad that I got the cartridge of the game itself and somehow had saved all the data from where it left off! Idk how maybe a flashcard had its data, but I’m happy it did

[@TheNoobRapter]

No postal 1. Everyone remembers the comedy of 2, but everyone forgets that where postal started was dark and isometric.

[@midnightcassiopeia5735]

The minute you said Fire Emblem I KNEW which games you'd bring up. The Radiance Saga is one of my FAVORITE game series and the fact that I had to try extremely hard NOT to lose people made me think about everything. It's part of what I loved about the games!! You HAD to consider what to do so you wouldn't risk people! And the story was so compelling!! Ike trying to hard to follow in his Father's footsteps, Micaiah trying to help her country to become better, the Laguz Struggle to be accepted... It's all so GOOD. Thank you for bringing them up!!

[@CEWinick]

Great episode and intro. Glad to see the Count to return and was fun watching this episode.

[@DJGamingSmash]

Josh, you picked my least favorite Sonic game and then dissed it's better half. Why? (Also "Unleashed" is most underrated)

[@keybladeoverlord]

Considering the amount of love Unleashed gets nowadays, I wouldn't say it is underrated.

[@HenshinFanatic]

You got that bass ackwards, Secret Rings was better than Black Knight. Seven Rings in Hand MF. ;P

[@krimsonkatt]

@@Bigwigrah07 Yes, especially after forces came out. People are saying it's one of the "good boost titles" along with generations. Also Colors seems to get a lot more hate now for some reason.

[@thewolfking3054]

@@krimsonkatt wait. Really? I thought people really liked colours

[@TF2Fan101]

Agreed.

[@stampylongnoah]

My favorite Mario & Luigi game topped one of Josh's countdowns. I never expected this to happen in a million years, also YESSSSSSSSS!!!!!

[@llmkursk8254]

I've stated once, and I'll state it again: Your intro is so damn good, I didn't watch the premier *just* so I can watch the intro. So good!

[@daffyhat]

"Oh look, it's Monday, and the cleaning lady left her stuff" Is Is that a Scott Pilgrim reference

[@jamesbutlerx64]

I'm going to disagree with you about Secret Rings about everything except for the music and I had more fun playing Sonic and the Black Knight, but I agree with you about Mega Man StarForce

[@darkcloak100]

Skyward Sword HD was announced at the right time lol. But for real I say Skyward is an underrated game with its biggest problem being too long for it's own good. I mean if they trim 1/3 of the story the game would be so much better. That and if they fix the broken Harp Side Quest....makes going 100% a little annoying.

[@bluestreaker9242]

Yes! I LOVED Skyward Sword, but for me its two major problems was its length and those forced motion controls. I mean, yeah, Twilight Princess had motion controls, but they were OPTIONAL! Also, as one of my friends pointed out to me, Skyward Sword's story never happened due to us slaying Demise in the past, making his threat of his incarnation haunting Link's bloodline for the rest of his days...a literal empty threat. X3

[@darkcloak100]

@@bluestreaker9242 But it's not an empty threat because Ganon keeps coming back to fight and kiddnap every incarnation ( and Wind Waker) Link and Zelda throughout time.

[@bluestreaker9242]

@@darkcloak100 Bellum, Malladus, and Vaati would disagree with that notion as they ALL have kidnapped Zelda and menaced Link...Vaati did it THRICE, even...and they AREN'T reincarnations of Ganon in the slightest! XD

[@darkcloak100]

@@bluestreaker9242 The link that fought Bellum is the same Link that fought Ganon in Wind Waker. Vaati later becomes a puppet to Ganon in Four Sword. I'll give you Malladus, so saying every incarnation is a over statement but you can't deny that Ganon is the major threat throughout the timeline....and let's be honest, if they kept going on the WW timeline Ganon would somehow come back and probably mess with Spirit Track Link. lol

[@bluestreaker9242]

@@darkcloak100 Demon Train is Ganon confirmed! Lol! XD Actually, funnily enough, when Skyward Sword was first announced and shown off, I thought Ghirahim was going to be Vaati. It's even crazier when you realize their roles are kinda similar, playing second fiddle to the big bad. The only difference is Ghirahim did it better: that boy can MOVE! Ghirahim's EXACTLY the kinda ham the Zelda franchise needed out of a villain! XD

[@fireline4765]

You're window was open again. "I HAVE.....A FRONT DOOR!!!" I love that 😂

[@KittyKatt_Luna80s]

Just subscribed to Count Shaman as well. Thanks for the recommendation Josh.

[@kylekahanek2534]

I love Megaman Starforce. When I was battling depression, for reasons that are to personal I was able to relate to Geo Stellar. These games are some of my all time favorite games. Thank you Joshscorcher, and Count Shaman. God Bless you both.

[@neptuneplaneptune3367]

Megaman Starforce Leo was the first Negaman game i ever played, heck it was the first i ever heard about the blue Bomber and to this day i love this game! Sadly i never played 2 ore 3 much to my never ending shame and regret. But im realy happy you acknowledged the series in this vidio!

[@Wolfs0n]

Star Force has the grimmer story? Umm... Josh you know the Mega Man of Battle Network is a digitized construct of the protagonist's stillborn brother right? O_o

[@History507]

Wait what? When was that revealed?

[@Wolfs0n]

@@History507 Read the Manga

[@History507]

@@Wolfs0n where can I find the battle network manga

[@Wolfs0n]

@@History507 Wherever manga is sold? Idk try Comixology on Amazon

[@Andy-sj4ip]

Yeah we know but it’s still not as dark as Star force 1 or 3 where we child exploit and abuse Parental pressure, mental/ personality disorder caused traumatic experience

[@DragonScythe64]

wow first channel to say Secret ring is kinda alright, never thought I see the day

[@justagundam]

Love that intro so much.

[@MetaKnuxXbeats]

I am just really glad to see Guilty Gear 2 Overture and Pac Man World 2 in this video, even if it is just the honorable mentions.

[@Kinkiro0013]

Another great list, and once again, thank you for directing more attention to the weird and wonderful dark works of Yoko Taro~

[@Jurmicc]

thank you for giving Sonic and the Secret Rings some postive words. i loved that game so much and it will always hold a special place in my heart. it's so hard to find someone saying good things about it.

[@self-absorbed5269]

Fun fact, Mertoid Prime 1 and Metroid : The Other Metroid, both have the same point. Samus has an Achilles heel, hit that small spot on her back right and she goes down. That may be the projection point for her whole space suit. Explaining why she always turns to face her opponents every time, even Ridley.

[@ChrisX_212]

I'd still pick Genealogy or the whole Jugdral series for being underrated. Yes, you CAN make argument that it wasn't officially translated yet. But, the international players would already have bits of what's going on from Fire Emblem Heroes, and I just feel that the Radiant series actually got more warmer reception, compared to a series that has NEVER been translated. Heck, when the devs was asked about 'Which series do you want to make the next Echoes installment about?', they'd answer Binding Blade, and I'm sure amongst your community, if asked with the same question, you'd answer the same as well. So yeah. While the gameplay might have aged badly, the story is what keeps you to it, it gets REALLY DARK and goes with very very questionable things. But, personally I still enjoy it with the outdated gameplay elements. Again, the story and characterizations are where it shines greatly. But again, it's your countdown, you can pick whatever. But in my heart, the answer for this in case of Fire Emblem is always Genealogy of the Holy War and Thracia 776, the Jugdral series. LOCALIZE THEM ALREADY, NINTENDO!

[@austinmorrison6953]

I actually started with Metroid Prime 2 before 1. And I was honestly shocked at how much it’s glanced over.

[@meganpayette5996]

It truly is rather sad that the Fire Emblem Tellius duology were the only entries in the series to come out on home consoles worldwide until Three Houses came along. Fun fact: Radiant Dawn was my older brother's very first Fire Emblem game. He got Path Of Radiance much later at a convention.

[@Nazo-kage]

18:15 One of the other things I think that hurt the secret rings, is the fact that it’s production happened simultaneously with 06. In fact it was originally intended for 06 to come out on the WII but they were having so much trouble with it they decided to just make a new game entirely but this split sonic team which very well could be the reason that sonic 06 was such a dud. Coming out right after such a bomb and possibly one of the reasons that it became one kind of unfortunately makes sense that this game isn’t as well liked.

[@bluestreaker9242]

Considering '06 was also forced to be rushed to fan demand AND a holiday release schedule, as well, I'm not surprised the version we got was the most STABLE. X3

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

Hold up, I know where that intro background and ranking transition music comes from, it's Pac-Man World 2!!! I love that game! What a pleasant surprise!!!

[@gustavomartinsdesouza5548]

True reason for KH Chain of Memories not being so liked as the others: Riku 4

[@grand_master_of_izalith7186]

YES!!! Partners in Time! That was my first RPG growing up, and dang I still love it! One of my favorite all time, hands down.

[@Speedinkling]

I loved partners in time growing up. It's my 2nd favourite Mario & Luigi game.

[@MarioandSonic345]

Thank you for putting Projared I heard his been hit hard at times way back before the pandemic but i'm glad you put his well known phrase (Gee an epic RPG where you 4 treasures of the elements, I never heard that one before) for those wonder where this is person is when he edited it i have it here> 19:51

[@krimsonkatt]

Yeah, he got cancelled big time in 2019. Luckily he proved the allegations wrong and has come back in full force! Though is upload schedule is inconsistent as always.

[@CardinalSn]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one that remembered Starforce. It's even up at Number 2 and that put a HUGE smile on my face.

[@zereaux56]

It makes me so happy that someone is finally recognizing Partners in Time from my favorite Mario Series.

[@emberfist8347]

For me, there are a few. 1. Halo 3: ODST. It is a short game, yes but I liked the overworld and having to piece together what happened to the squad. I also liked having a game set from the perspective of a non-Spartan soldier where even a Grunt can pose a significant threat in combat. One thing I think people forget is that the Grunts are only goomba level enemies in the series because you are playing as a cybernetically enhanced super-soldier in power armor who is capable of going toe-to-toe with Elites. 2.Call of Duty 3. This is one of the first games in the series to have an over-arching story instead of several campaigns with some occasional overlap. The game tells of an often-forgotten part of WWII the Falaise Gap a massive campaign that led to the Liberation of Paris which started after the capture of Normandy. The campaign shows the fighting from the US 90th Infantry Divison, the British SAS who are assisting the Maquis resistance, The 4th Canadian Armored Divison, and the Polish 1st Armored Divison and their Sherman Fireflies. The game has a great story and was the last Call of Duty game until Ghosts to have a mission where you drive a tank. 3. Star Wars The Clone Wars Republic Heroes. Star Wars has been for the longest time one of the few licensed franchises to have consistently good games be released but this game is unfairly the lowest rated of the games on Steam. I have played it several times personally and it isn't bad at all. The story fits as a really good arc from the show with ties to the final arc of the first season as Anakin and the 501st Legion are tasked with mopping up the Separatist forces on Ryloth. The series includes fan favorites from the show such as the bounty Cad Bane, and Jedi Master Plo Koon along with some cool new faces like the Skakoan Scientist Kul Teska and Private Switch a rear-echelon "soft-shell" Clone mechanic who shows that just despite being a mechanic, he still has the combat skills of his clone template. The gameplay is fun too even if it is simplistic compared to games like Dark Forces or Republic Commando but it is still very fun. 4. Bioshock 2. Sadly this game is stuck between Infinite and the original without being talked about. The game actually great you get to play as a Big Daddy for the full game and the multiple endings of the original were heavily expanded upon as instead of the ending just focusing on the Little Sisters you also have three characters who work for the main villain that can be killed or spared. The game is also genius in that the villain is a collectivist giving a sharp contrast to the objectivism preached by Andrew Ryan

[@jacobochoa9779]

When I saw that short clip of blue dragon it gives me hope you or someone else will talk about it. Seriously it and its sequel are amazing.

[@AnimaMandala]

I'd say Bobmerman 64: The Second Attack has a more "Zelda" feel than "Final Fantasy", but to each his own. Great list as always!

[@ogre589]

the Bomberman N64 games do feel more LoZ gameplay wise while having a more FF story and art style. Didn't stop me from wasting so many hour against cpus and my little brother in the multiplayer on top of the three 100% playthrough files.

[@TekkenGirl4Lyfe]

"Or you could do what I did and just watch a playthrough on KZbin." That's exactly what I'm doing lol I'm watching The Green Scorpion's ongoing LP of PoR (and I cannot wait for them to get to RD it's going to be AMAZING omg)

[@roxynano]

Star Fox: Assault is extremely underrated!

[@jonwootton2181]

I love that game Played it all the time with a friend of mine

[@Alurkerdood]

The King’s Field games are the precursor to the Souls series. They were atmospheric, plodding RPGs that had an emphasis on exploration. Not for everyone but it is one of my favorite games.

[@SarahStClair-qp9ew]

Josh: *Hates Sonic and the Black Knight* Me, a huge fan of that game: BLASPHEMY

[@samiamtheman7379]

"It really came a long way from being a Nintendo cult series to a company staple" Might be slowly easing back into cult series status with the lack of new installments in the franchise.

[@krimsonkatt]

We still haven't gotten an original game since Other M, which was released 11 years ago. Federation Force was a spinoff and Samus Returns was a remake. Metroid Prime 4 probably won't be out until at least 2024, and it's possible it might not even be on the switch with how long it's taking to come out!

[@elipowers1622]

thanks for the Megaman Battle Network Reference

[@Arexion5293]

A few more: - Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha vs King Abaddon - Need For Speed: Porsche Unleashed (PC) - Crash Bandicoot 2: N-Tranced - Worms 2 (PC) - Ratchet Deadlocked/Gladiator - Gran Turismo 3 - Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia - Pokémon Mystery Dungeon - Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light - Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance 2

[@BonelessFolka]

Hearing Josh defend Final Fantasy II is something I didn't know I needed.

[@jonathanrussell8998]

Thank you so much for mentioning Arithmeticks in the broken mechanics bit. XD And for not calling it Math Skill LOL

[@7Seraphem7]

Oh hell yes! The Tellius Games were my favorite! I freaking LOVED those so damn much!

[@GenAqua]

Please review the Fear Effect and Fatal Frame games with Wambu, cause they don't get enough attention, and I loved you guy's review of Spirit Of Justice.

[@masonmerris2711]

That was hilarious and those were some I treating games I’ll have to take a look at

[@Wolvie181]

I love Metroid Prime:Echoes The boss fights were fun and the environment was great.

[@FuryMcpurey]

No Wario: Master of Disguise? That was a great game and so many people overlooked it. Although, I *have* seen a lot of remixes of Carpaccio's boss theme and I feel like MoD should be making a resurgence to the fandom. But anyways, hearing Count Shaman's JoJo reference was great and my favorite part of the video.

[@krimsonkatt]

Wario: Master of Disguise - the forgotten Wario Land title and the ultimate virgin game. Truly a masterpiece of it's time.

[@madbrosheo1514]

Metroid Prime 2 is pretty loved in most circles. There’s even a number of people who prefer it over Prime 1. It’s not even that hard if you explore and pick up all the items as they become available to you. It’s also the darkest and grittiest of the Prime games. And though the locations are less varied, I don’t think there’s a single person who would say Sanctuary Fortress isn’t at least in the top 3 best locations in the series. It also has some of the greatest bosses in the series. Granted it has the Boost Guardian which is really bad, but it also has the Quadraxis which is phenomenal.

[@GentleJellicent]

@16:06 Dead Space Extraction on Dark Souls.

[@searingsoul6664]

Kingdom hearts chain of memories the very first game I ever played

[@ogre589]

You have no idea how much it hurts to see Command Mission being disregarded. I have 100% the game several times and I never get tired of it.

[@sjfearing1]

High count shaman good to see you back

[@Castersvarog]

I am very glad you guys brought up Megaman Starforce, those games were damn great when it came to both story with a surprising amount of character development. Plus the game play was pretty good in my opinion. Trying to do the Battle network style but with a 90 degree difference was pretty good and while it's no as in depth as the GBA series it was still pretty great. Plus, I'm a sucker for the star theme it had going on. Except for 2, that one is just not that good.

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

Fun fact For a time I was called Joshua David, nowadays I’m simply referred to as ShockwaveFPS Studios or just Shockwave or ShockwaveFPS For Short. And since Joshscorher, or Fiery Joker has been around in KZbin a Year Longer Than I Have, since he started his channel in 2010, while I started my First Channel dannyandsunny in 2011.

[@EmeraldUltima713]

I'm one of those fans who prefer Black Knight over Secret Rings. Also, I think Sonic Unleashed (PS3/X360) to me is probably the most underrated 3D Sonic game in the series.

[@colt1903]

*sees title* Damn, we got so close! I'm waiting for the day I see 13 Sentinels Aegis Rim on a top 10 list.

[@RedeemingAngelBarb]

Josh, why did you put Dark Souls under Dead Space Extraction