[Proxy Play] Chronojet vs Messiah | Mar 5, 2023

[@VanguardInsider]

In my defensive In my timeline Bushi balanced the deck in a different way hence I don't give power with some skills and do with others, BUT Faterider giving that much power?!?! I think I stay in this timeline

[@Fluors_]

Don't forget to draw1 when ditching the g3 to stride. It's mandatory

[@alexanton19]

And you miss the skill on gigi also

[@zeylontof5472]

Hello @Vanguard Insider, is there hope of reviving the project you had with your brother for the "STRIDE Table"? It will be a dream come true! How much money is needed for this project to be successful? kzbin.info/www/bejne/goqyeWWvjtKDe6c

[@dancerock1000]

what Is link joker under Brandt gate or dark state? and gear chronicle is under dark state right

[@TopDeckHeroes]

Link joker Brandt Gate Gears Dark States

[@CarrKool6292]

It’s crazy that both characters used these exact g units in that one episode they fought

[@naser3000x]

That was the plan all along

[@sammydray5919]

Its almost like thats the whole reason they were brought into the format 😂

[@kingmordr3d827]

These are 2 amazing decks to play! But as a Narukami main myself, id there a possibility for you to play more Gandiva?

[@nouvelle147]

YOO Timeleap jumpscare??

[@triplen9804]

Lol love games like this so much passion There's so much power in voice when he say Philip 😂

[@crazyflame7227]

Its Kouji vs Chrono in D

[@crazyflame7227]

Also the players using these decks seem perfect

[@gwarguraqueentrickstarcoat9110]

​@@crazyflame7227 i agree

[@dealerinfaith8039]

Be careful, with messiah, he has the power of God AND anime on his side!

[@Blizz3112]

"Bye, sacrifice!" Sacrifice Messiah: "Was THIS why they named me this waaaay?!!!"

[@andrew_lai_owo]

Where is the Brainwash for chronojet deck? The Grade 2 dragon that hand to soul to draw one is not that good in chronojet deck. And the grade 2 from TD is a must play for chronojet because all deck can swing with masice power, that Grade 2 can helps a lot to be honest. This all is just my opinion lah, by the way nice fight and love your video a lot bro.

[@Storm_Soulfighter]

Chronojet vs messiah my time has come I now must build chronojet in the overdress format

[@biantoroy]

Dude, stride deck set is insane in terms of power between the original rideline. I doubt they'll be supported anytime soon. Im just here waiting for my Blademaster Stride Deckset. 🙏😭

[@blackfiresprout]

Oop as much as id love that i think its sticking to V. ... Altho the V counterpart is kinda whack.

[@carloseduardopereirocid5149]

The champ vs the caster! Who's gonna win?

[@kevinrodriguez3873]

Question y’all, if you stall can you still use your ride deck to ride to g3? A bunch of players at my locals keep saying that you can’t and that you have to ride your g3 from hand.

[@TopDeckHeroes]

That’s actually a legit question, i will do some digging and get back to you on that.

[@shiren2571]

Just checked right now and from what i saw in the rullings, nothing says the ride deck can't be used if you stall for example. The ride deck is available at all times. So, all of those players at your locals saying you can't use your ride deck are fully wrong and give themselves an unfair advantage. Edit : Just before i forget, i could have completly missed something somewhere and then, i would be wrong. If that's the case, i'm sorry for that

[@unikua218]

See the new grade 10 tree Vanguard You can skip you ride phase

[@TopDeckHeroes]

“As long as ride deck exists you can use it - its not time limited at all” Confirmed from a Judge

[@kevinrodriguez3873]

Thanks for clarifying the rulings y’all!

[@coleevans8763]

I just want some more overlord support

[@XavierDukeVT]

Late to watch this video but it was hilarious, good games you two 🖤

[@dracotamashiiofficial]

Finally, the battle I've been waiting for, FIGHT!!!

[@shmarfle47]

Those numbers are just insane. Crests are so unfair.

[@ThyranG]

Imagine thinking these numbers are insane, given what current decks can do in Overdress..They do WAY more than these two.

[@arjunbalamurali127]

I don't even own a deck and I still want those beautiful deck boxes ❤️

[@AnglishSligna]

For, storage? XD

[@Mylifuismywaifu]

"40 minute video" ....1 h later

[@Jorch101]

I hate g2 stales. Specially now with all the chonojet meta, is like… really boring having everyone playing mirror matches and staying in grade 2…

[@peacechan4500]

Exactly why I think everyone who bust out the Chronojet is just for tryharding reasons

[@Jorch101]

@@peacechan4500 x2 I personally love the clan and it's literally the only clan I've played since G started, and it feels horrible looking at so many people suddenly "loving" gear chronicle when they never even cared before. And it just makes it completely annoying and boring to want to have a nice game just to see them staying at grade 2 because "me wanna stride first". Sadly, this is probably going to be the format for the next 6 months, since in Japan, chronojet is still the top contender and they are already 2 sets in advance...

[@M4-846]

So many big numbers!!!!!!!!!!! So AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry dimsion police, you're no longer the only one who can go really big anymore

[@neloverg3774]

DPolice is going for 100K+ easily with 5 drives though

[@randx1075]

DP is still the best deck on going big numbers

[@ivesantonio626]

Its almost funny how bushi thought that a multi attack draw 4~5 on the 1 stride would be balanced BUT THE REAL QUESTION IS WHERE IS THE BEST NOVA GRAPPLER UNIT BUSHI????? GIVE US MR INVECINBLE

[@YoukaiFofo]

Are you really striding if you don't say the stride lines before striding? :^)

[@thelaughingdragon32]

Why the thorn dragon

[@unikua218]

So borring g2 stall That shit need to be fixed

[@peacechan4500]

Hey, as long as it's worked

[@Blizz3112]

@@peacechan4500 It doesn't... its not how the game should be played...

[@federicodc]

@@Blizz3112 if they didn't want for it to exist they would have addressed it a long time ago. Bushi pretty much accepted its existence and is printing more stuff outside of strides that encourages G2 game, like the Masques cards, and some G3s like Minerva and Viamance.

[@ToitleP]

Can you use awaking's effect to call itself *before* you use alter ego's effect to lock? I always thought alter ego triggered as you stride and awaking messiah is when the g4 is placed?

[@TopDeckHeroes]

Both happen the same time, otherwise whats the point of awakening

[@ToitleP]

@@TopDeckHeroes I always thought alter ego happens as you stride whereas awaking happens immediately after. Probably PTSD from Yu-Gi-Oh and all the stuff with timing I had to deal with there

[@acesashi8154]

The g2 stall is just crazy and stupid lol! But which deck would you recommend for those who want to start playing?

[@TopDeckHeroes]

Honestly neither, start with a SD or TD if you lear and start playing, these are out of the box complete decks and don’t have much value teaching the game to beginners given how complex and unique their mechanics are compared to the rest of Overdress

[@kodokutamashi1569]

Stall is the lowest level of play and had been abused since G. For that matter, you just need to push those stallers into high dmgs area with crits.

[@blackfiresprout]

Honestly start with Messiah, its ridiculously good & the longevity of it you wont have to upgrade the deck for a while to compete.

[@randx1075]

Wait till you heard of a G1 stall😂

[@syedjaafar291]

I’m new to this just want to ask can unlock card attack again

[@TopDeckHeroes]

Yes, when i card is unlocked it is unlocked in the stand position, so if you unlock during the battle phase you can attack again

[@farelryan485]

That chronojet play is really confusing

[@ThyranG]

“They shouldve made Stride a Turn 3 mechanic.” *My brother in christ, why would you allow Stride to be something you can do while my opponent is at G2 still?*

[@TopDeckHeroes]

Going second turn 3* lol

[@Br0oham]

Can't believe Jason Momoa is a Messiah main, crazy

[@Jaireaw]

how much of different between 2 deck? I want to play messiah but fear that i will keep losing to chrono. any trick recommended? 1 thing i learn is that dont play grade 2 game with it

[@blackfiresprout]

Messiah is much stronger being able to draw 4-5 on 1st stride 👀 even with the early aggro Messiah just pushes harder

[@kokujin8716]

What dice are you using?

[@itzzfitsgames8433]

i thought eng havent come out yet for messiah?

[@TopDeckHeroes]

They haven’t

[@itzzfitsgames8433]

@@TopDeckHeroes u print it?

[@TopDeckHeroes]

Yes lol Thats why its called proxy play, we make peoxys of recently revealed cards and test them to see what work and how they play so people have a head start on deck brewing and ideas for combos as well as a simple understanding of how the deck want to play

[@itzzfitsgames8433]

@@TopDeckHeroes ouh hahaha im new to this channel but anyway jet and messiah is op ngl.

[@TopDeckHeroes]

Welcome! We primarily do Proxy Play , but we also have a weekly recap (V-Time) as well as other Vanguard content such as product unboxing, dear days and more Biggest part is the fact that we are idiot and do stupid shit so its entertaining lol

[@Sol-Kage]

I love Erik’s energy. Still no clue why he blocked me :(. Fun video!

[@VanguardInsider]

My mistake i didn't realize you were blocked I though I muted you a while back because my Twitter timeline become 80% you which made it hard for me to keep tabs on what was happening in the VG community. Nothing personal ^^

[@Sol-Kage]

@@VanguardInsider ah ok! Yeah I sometimes tweet a lot lol. I don’t mind if you don’t want to follow me but being blocked meant I couldn’t see you which made me sad.

[@Katakamma]

can someone explain why they didnt ride g3 in game 3? kinda confused why not do it?

[@TopDeckHeroes]

Trying to get the advantage and stride first

[@carterromanofsky3579]

It's because of the stride mechanic. To be able to stride you and your opponents vanguard must be grade 3 or greater. So if you or your opponent sit on g2 neither player can stride. It's a who can stride first deal at that point.

[@tyyoumans-cz6dy]

Can I ask you for advice I'm currently making a blitz ceo welstra deck and I don't know how to improve it. So is there any advice that you can give me so I can improve my blitz ceo welstra deck

[@TopDeckHeroes]

Improve with what is currently out or what will come out at the end of the month

[@peacechan4500]

@@TopDeckHeroes btw how's the dog in wlestra?

[@federicodc]

@@peacechan4500 better than the cannon. Vanishing early-game body if you don't see the G2 order, that turns into soul

[@shan-mariehylton9119]

First

[@dantearmstrong2792]

Could you imagine being a Nirvana player having to bind your Trickstars and Overdress units? I'd cry.

[@TopDeckHeroes]

Commence evil laugh Muahhahahahahaha

[@reversal3628]

It has been like that since Eva's order. Bushi needs to fix the rules about dress system. You may have 20 Vanillas in your deck BUT YOU ONLY HAVE 4 TRICKSTARs!

[@peacechan4500]

I be honest here chief. Deck like nirvana won't ever be good ever. There's a reason why equipment deck in all TCG never been good

[@neloverg3774]

​@@peacechan4500 you must not have played magic. Equipments and artifacts are/were baller there.

[@peacechan4500]

@@neloverg3774 but do aura deck had the same power level? I guess not. Equipment decks and artifacts didn't do minus card advantage. Aura do

[@coollionboy3887]

Glad to see these units clash again

[@tyyoumans-cz6dy]

Good video

[@cornblaque2310]

I just want Metatron and angel feather back

[@eko_cvz5254]

is messiah better than jet yet?

[@TopDeckHeroes]

Don’t know, what was our score at Dark Sphere on Sunday?

[@eko_cvz5254]

@@TopDeckHeroes idk what Black Sphere is but I hadn't touched the deck before that day XD

[@TopDeckHeroes]

Dark you know what i meant, so you are also saying its a skill issue

[@eko_cvz5254]

@@TopDeckHeroes truly a gap in knowledge, I remain unaware

[@kodokutamashi1569]

Yes, better. Because with prison order you can draw 5-6 cards straight after first Stride that hand can help you survive even at 4-5 dmgs unless the opponent have huge numbers from 50k +. Jet can't achieve that without right condition.