TOPH IS QUEEN, ZUTARA IS BAE I AVATAR: THE LAST AIRBENDER I YA GIRL HAS THOUGHTS

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Rach So Random

Rach So Random

Күн бұрын

SPOILERS ON SPOILERS ON SPOILERS!!!
TOPH HATERS TO THE LEFT. ZUKO + KATARA FOR LIFE.
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@sarhathegem7730
@sarhathegem7730 2 жыл бұрын
Also one of the big arguments I see against Zutara is ‘they’d be so toxic’ as if Mai and Zuko and Aang and Katara aren’t already toxic in their own ways in the series?
@adij5124
@adij5124 Жыл бұрын
SAY IT LOUDER 👏👏👏
@mxntyffx1535
@mxntyffx1535 10 ай бұрын
Fr. In all honesty I think that zutara would actually communicate and work through their problems together.
@Simplyeverlasting87
@Simplyeverlasting87 9 ай бұрын
Another one I see is that people say that Zutara is problematic because Zuko is from the fire nation which; which is responsible for the destruction of Katara’s culture. Which I don’t disagree but Zuko himself isn’t responsible for it and has shown to want to dismantle fire nation supremacy in the series afterwards. Kataang just give big sister little brother energy lol
@thecrispyacorn
@thecrispyacorn 8 ай бұрын
​@@Simplyeverlasting87 the reason it gives those vibes is because Katara herself is motherly towards all her friends, people she trusts. IN FACT just due to the fact that Zuko is taller and is only 3-4 years older than Aang when Katara is sympathetic and acts motherly towards zuko in the cave, people see it as flirting, but when she acts motherly towards aang it appears like a big sister/big brother relationship. Its just who Katara is. I have a few points about the whole thing though: 1. Katara goes through stages of liking aang: Season 1: Curiosity (due to Fortune teller) Season 2: Interest but in the back of her mind (due to Ba sing see and Azula trailing them she wanted to focus on the mission) Season 3: actual crush/love interest ( but feels guilty bc its during a war they need to focus on, until the end when she can finally express her feelings) She also has relationship issues because of Jett: This causes her to dislike those who lie, deceive, or betray her. IF Zuko didn't betray Katara in the cave and give in to his trauma and stay with the fire nation, something totally could have happened! But alas Zuko broke her trust and betrayed the gaang. In that moment she saw just another firebender who wants to control the world (even if that wasn't his intention). In chapter 3, Aang showed bravery, danced with Katara, kissed her, and genuinely cared for her. which led to her forming real feelings for him. Plus she was also driven by the notion that she might end up with him because of what the fortune teller said in season 1. Overall, Kataang started as a brother/sister vibe BUT as aang grew physically and mentally that dynamic shifted to become an actual relationship (just look at the comics, aang is taller and more mature). Zutara could have happened bc they understand eachother's trauma with the firenation but, all hope of it ended with his betrayal, in the end they mended their differences but due to Katara now seeing aang as a love interest, her and zuko are merely just friends. In the comics Katara and Zuko have different views on how situations need to be handled so they arent AS compatible as people hoped they were. (only similarities was trauma and potential comfort with trauma)
@dramallamarama5300
@dramallamarama5300 3 жыл бұрын
Someone summed up the vibe of Katara and Aang really well as he ‘Fell in love with the babysitter’.
@Tholen3
@Tholen3 3 жыл бұрын
Omg yes, Soo much so, exactly.
@pinkstarlightchaos3076
@pinkstarlightchaos3076 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the creators did
@AshleeKnowsNot
@AshleeKnowsNot Жыл бұрын
God that's painful how accurate it is.
@FifteenRavens
@FifteenRavens Жыл бұрын
This is painfully inaccurate
@nikosmihailidis9440
@nikosmihailidis9440 Жыл бұрын
Bro shut your mouth braindead boy literally isnt his babysister and katara love him first lol on the cave of 2 lovers and kataang slams by far no debate zutara is mid lol we can debate it
@OverlordNeon
@OverlordNeon 3 жыл бұрын
"TOPH IS QUEEN, ZUTARA IS BAE" I see we think on the same wavelength here.
@OverlordNeon
@OverlordNeon 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly gotta give katara more credit though, she can be stubborn and opinionated but that stubborness and strong willpower basically carried the entire team out of that desert so really I think its worth it in the end! Also think it woulda been cute if Aang got with that one fire nation girl from the dancing episode, she liked him before knowing he was the avatar too. but thats just IMO.
@RachSoRandom
@RachSoRandom 3 жыл бұрын
@@OverlordNeon so true about Katara! And yes, Fire Nation girl was cute too :)
@alinac5512
@alinac5512 3 жыл бұрын
Basically avatar in a nutshell. And the more I think about and analyze Zutara the more I ship it and hate Kataang.
@maimunayusuf298
@maimunayusuf298 3 жыл бұрын
@@alinac5512 yes you are right I think Anng feel like a. Little brother to katara and I love how zuko and katara both so similar to one another
@RensStoryteller
@RensStoryteller 3 жыл бұрын
You mean MELONLORD!!!!
@islasullivan3463
@islasullivan3463 3 жыл бұрын
Another Zutara observation: the forbidden lovers, from the secret tunnel, one wears red and the other blue. Which is weird because they are both from the Earth kingdom
@RachSoRandom
@RachSoRandom 3 жыл бұрын
INTERESTING ;)
@stephylynnpatch
@stephylynnpatch 3 жыл бұрын
Also the framing in the cross roads of destiny and the framing in the oma and shu story is almost match for match.
@alinac5512
@alinac5512 3 жыл бұрын
@@RachSoRandom 😂
@salmawardak7327
@salmawardak7327 3 жыл бұрын
Katara isn’t the only person in the whole world who wears blue. Neither is zuko the only person who wears red in the entire universe of atla.
@islasullivan3463
@islasullivan3463 3 жыл бұрын
@@salmawardak7327 No but it's interesting that forbidden lovers of the Earth kingdom are wearing the colors of the Water Tribe and Fire Nation.
@piathekitty
@piathekitty 2 жыл бұрын
an hour long pro-zutara dissertation is exactly what i needed tonight. self-care is not watching the last 7 minutes of a:tla and pretending the kataang kiss doesn't happen😌
@MegaMilenche
@MegaMilenche Жыл бұрын
@Kataang for life UwU Well, it's always best to pretend she didn't have those kids while Aang left her to raise them by herself.
@messofabeing9392
@messofabeing9392 9 ай бұрын
i kinda like how that one fortune teller lady told katara that the man she’d be marrying is a “powerful bender” and the last time in the series she saw a man with powerful bending was during zuko’s agni kai
@kaychill15
@kaychill15 3 жыл бұрын
Narratively, it would make MORE sense if Katara (instead of Mai) went in and surprised Zuko and helped him put on his clothes he's struggling with because of his new scar (caused by yet another family member). Not only did Zuko get that new scar for Katara. But unlike his first scar ( also caused by family)-he doesn't care because it saved Katara. Which is a big deal-given his prior complex of the 1st. It also would symbolically show Katara is helping him heal from emotional scars rather than trying to heal the physical ones just by being there for him. And it would give more symmetry to that s2 scene of Katara just trying to heal away his scar-after they both opened up about their moms. Katara I believe is also the only girl to touch his scar (another love interest in s2 tried and he literally grabbed her hand before she could do so). Also , the dialogue from the scene makes sense for zutara . Zuko: "so does that mean you don't hate me anymore?". Katara: "I think it means... I actually kind of like you. ". Also, like , don't get me started on how Mai was a representation of his attachement to the fake prince he thought he was supposed to be for his father. And she doesn't even share Zuko's values...so it would just make more sense for him to stay single than with her. Or the fact even in s3 they kept on bringing up the fact Katara literally is mothering Aang (and even Aang says she's like a mother to him in s3/ and right before the finalie the play compares them to siblings). like ...cave of 2 lovers paralleling zutara/ship-baiting aside . Why have Aang literally say she treats him like a mom- in the same season they get together romantically. That's weird af. I really do think zutara was supposed to happen (or some writers wanted it)and Aang was supposed to stay single at the end of s3. which is why even in the finalie episodes they keep zutara together for almost the entirety and they even call her his "girlfriend" at a restauraunt- and he yells she isn't. Which paralleled his past date where he yelled "she's not my girlfriend".
@Jay.T4NA
@Jay.T4NA 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree and the writers deny it because they’re ashamed! I think they DEFINITELY set them up and then backed out and pretended it didn’t happen
@MomoKanjaki
@MomoKanjaki 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! 👏🏾
@clarissaguyot6415
@clarissaguyot6415 Жыл бұрын
​​@@Jay.T4NA I think it's more complex than that. For the creators wanted kataang from beginning to end. But some ( a lot ) of writers wanted zutara and almost succefully pushed it, but it was the creator that had the final say in it, and that was what happened. But because they had the final say kind of late, we still have a lot of zutara scene ( that what I think happened )
@karinamurphy6645
@karinamurphy6645 Жыл бұрын
Zuko and Katara ending up together could’ve been a great plot line and LoK. I could only imagine the kind of history and plots they coulda made for the creation of Republic city and other places in the avatar universe. I think the characters and plot line could have had a larger dynamic if the Fire Lord married a Southern Water Tribe (peasant lol) master water bender. UGHHHHH so much potential for great storylines in the future!
@ObaREX
@ObaREX 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously, though. Zuko... is VERY touchy about his scar. He doesn't like people looking at it. He doesn't like people talking about it. He CERTAINLY doesn't like people touching it! And then he just lets this chick, who has been his enemy, tenderly touch it? And here's Karata straight up putting her thumb on his mouth? Bro! I'm a cynical dude. But even I see these romantic undertones. Pretty much OVERtones at that point.
@alinac5512
@alinac5512 3 жыл бұрын
Right? Upon rewatching: its very obvious what should have been.
@SMinor-wn3mp
@SMinor-wn3mp 3 жыл бұрын
Facts!
@MomoKanjaki
@MomoKanjaki 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! 👏🏾
@Jay.T4NA
@Jay.T4NA 3 жыл бұрын
I’m here for this aggression 🙌🏽
@amuroray9115
@amuroray9115 3 жыл бұрын
They probably would have gotten together if Zuko didn’t betray her and join with Azula during that incident
@paccinocappaccino
@paccinocappaccino 3 жыл бұрын
AZULA THE ULTIMATE ZUTARA STAN. she locked them up in the crystal catacombs cuz she been stanning. I rest my case
@lolaa.8161
@lolaa.8161 3 жыл бұрын
The voice actor for Azula actually ships Zutara
@paccinocappaccino
@paccinocappaccino 3 жыл бұрын
@Jxay Dx NOTHING BUT FACTS
@paccinocappaccino
@paccinocappaccino 3 жыл бұрын
@@lolaa.8161 the actors all ship ZUTARA it's the creator who was like no. 😒Lame ass
@jasminegaspar8022
@jasminegaspar8022 11 ай бұрын
lmao this is cannon in my head
@leblancwilliana7513
@leblancwilliana7513 6 ай бұрын
Periodt.
@optimisticnihilist3417
@optimisticnihilist3417 2 жыл бұрын
I do wish Zuko and Toph's friendship had been expanded on a lot more. The way she vouches for him and is the first to trust him, the fact that they're from similar backgrounds and can relate to being from materially privileged but emotionally neglectful/abusive families, the way Zuko is so tightly wound and Toph has MASSIVE gremlin energy. I mean the potential was there to set Toph up as the little sister Zuko deserved and the writers wasted it. (Bonus points for Zuko being insecure about his appearance and Toph being too blind to care)
@veidlydia
@veidlydia 8 ай бұрын
I LOVE THEM SO MUCH, and I'm still mad to this day bc they made Zuko act so occ (mostly to make him look bad so people would stop shipping zutara) toward Toph when she opened up about her parents
@babibiby
@babibiby 3 жыл бұрын
Omg you are right... the taang and zutara endgames would be so juicy and there would be so much potential for the sequels
@ObaREX
@ObaREX 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one that shipped Aang and Toph as a kid.
@LM-ix7pk
@LM-ix7pk 3 жыл бұрын
They’re so cute tho 🥺 aang taught toph how to let loose and toph taught aang how to be more strong. They build each other up and are such good friends like they would’ve been an amazing couple
@freakdelta2824
@freakdelta2824 3 жыл бұрын
You’re not alone.
@cfall3394
@cfall3394 3 жыл бұрын
watched the 2h long video of sneezy reviews "get in losers, we are stanning zutara", and I will gladly watch you make your case for the great cause
@paccinocappaccino
@paccinocappaccino 3 жыл бұрын
No because I just watched that and now I'm watching this and living
@MomoKanjaki
@MomoKanjaki 3 жыл бұрын
Same! 😌
@Jay.T4NA
@Jay.T4NA 3 жыл бұрын
Literally same
@amaniolugba
@amaniolugba 3 жыл бұрын
Dittoooo
@k.NightRae13
@k.NightRae13 3 жыл бұрын
I literally just went to this just a few minutes after I finished watching that video😂
@junephine716
@junephine716 Жыл бұрын
im so happy that you pointed out that katara doesn’t get a statue in LOK. this has been bugging me for YEARS. how dare they?
@angelagarcia7093
@angelagarcia7093 2 жыл бұрын
Also... The painted lady is RED... The Blue Spirit is BLUE... THEY SWAP COLORS WHEN THEY ROLE PLAY!!!
@mayday3306
@mayday3306 2 жыл бұрын
Also.. - Zuko takes the necklace when overlooking a sunset on the water (still trying to please his father) - Zuko overlooking the moon (during crucial scenes when contemplating his decisions) - Katara looking into the sunset during the Southern Raiders - "you rise with the moon. I rise with the sun" - "perhaps I can restore something you've lost".. Zuko being the one to give her closure with her mom's killer (Aang giving her the replacement necklace and not understanding what she needed to heal (although Aang does get Katara's necklace back but at some point but they mention Zuko and jokingly says to give him a kiss lol) - Katara forgiving Zuko and Katara giving him advice when he faces his uncle again to ask for forgiveness - Zuko letting go of anger and relearning fire bending and her letting her anger go of him after S. Raiders/blood bending and moral duality - Tui & La. Ying and Yang. - Blue spirit mask from his mom and betrothal necklace (Ursa banished, Kya sacrificed in order to protect them) - Blue spirit and Painted Lady - Zuko gets his scar from his father, a symbol of shame for a long time. Get another scar from his sister while protecting Katara while doing the right thing. - "the avatar gives zuko hope... hope is something you give yourself" + “But I haven't lost hope. I still believe that somehow, the Avatar will return to save the world". Both initially seeing the Avatar as hope for different reasons but him finding his own destiny and her getting her own agency rather than waiting for a savior - also title sequence is Katara's speech and the ending title is the song that comes up for Zuko and Aang when the meet the firebending masters and the entire show is book ended by a speech from Zuko when he becomes firelord - Katara and Zuko losing Sokka and Iroh in the same ep - aaand June being a Queen and June Pippinpaddleopsicopolis???? Why June lmao INTERESTING
@kinda_cold_in_the_closet
@kinda_cold_in_the_closet 2 жыл бұрын
*dies of symbolism overdose*
@addictedtothewrittenword3451
@addictedtothewrittenword3451 3 жыл бұрын
Katara yelling at Zuko in the CC was needed for both of them. Katara had been carrying all that anger over her mothers death for years. Whether he was at fault or not at that moment didn't matter she finally had someone from the other side to take her anger out on.(also he was the villian) Doesn't make it right, but I feel people are more forgiving of Zuko's rude/bad behavior towards others because of trauma than Katara. Also Katara mentioning her mother is what causes Zuko to take Katara on their little field trip. I think he recognized the survivor guilt in her. That moment in the CC stayed with him long after it was over.
@sparkyblue7016
@sparkyblue7016 3 жыл бұрын
The incident of the crystal catacombs holds so much meaning and it goes even deeper . Katara leaving him there was one of nudges which drove him to betray everyone. She had raised up his hopes , his hopes of being free of this assault , to be free and control his own Destiny . The scar was a big part of his life , a constant reminder of his shamfulness , and when he got a beacon of hope , a hope that he could get better . Aang came and she chose aang over him , they abandoned him , he was again the second choice , the abandoned choice . Ofcourse Katara doesn't know the way in which she affected Zuko . But I belive that having his hopes crushed , having the fact that he could be rid of the scar crushed was a big thing for him . He had shown his most vulnerable side to someone , allowed himself to be weak by letting her touch him but she turned her back against him . And then when the opportunity that he could get his honor back , secure a place somewhere in the world , be accepted at least somewhere , he dove for it . If Katara would've helped him , maybe things would've been a bit different. (But personally I think that zuko needed to go through the 1st half of s3) . And I'm just giving how I perceived the scene . I was really really sad during that and seeing him so vulnerable was heartbreaking. And yes , zuko and Katara do bond over their mothers . It simply beautiful to see that Katara had been the first to touch his scar and he had been the first to whom she opened up about her mother . We've never seen Mai touch his scar or Katara tell aang about her mothers story even though Mai and aang are supposed to be their love interests . It kind of a bizarre choice to make and she told him when she hadn't even forgiven him .
@addictedtothewrittenword3451
@addictedtothewrittenword3451 3 жыл бұрын
@@sparkyblue7016 I have a slightly different take. One of the overall themes of ATLA is hope. I think that even though Katara doesn't heal his scar she gave Zuko hope. Even though he wasn't there to see it, he knows that she healed Aang. He knows how powerful Katara was/is so he has faith in Katara's healing abilites. When he tells his father that the Avatar isnt dead he has to be thinking about Katara and their time in the CC. Katara healing Aang is part of the catalyst of Zuko's change, although his change is 100% on him. Mai never once acknowledges any of Zuko's traumas in a meaningful way, she just brushes them off. In fact throughout the show she's pretty dismissive of him. Katara on the other hand offers him comfort when he's distressed as he does her.
@sparkyblue7016
@sparkyblue7016 3 жыл бұрын
@@addictedtothewrittenword3451 Ah yes , she did give him hope later on but I was just analyzing that specific scene , his feelings in that scene . He had faith in Katara's abilities and that's why he believed aang is alive otherwise how would he know if the avatar is alive or not. Katara does give zuko hope , as did zuko give hope to the gaang .
@sparkyblue7016
@sparkyblue7016 3 жыл бұрын
@@addictedtothewrittenword3451 and I don't particularly like Mai . He's sad and upset that he isn't called to the war meeting and she tries to soothe him by reminding him of the worst day of his life ???? That something bad will happen to you again if you go to another war meeting. I get that she's somehow trying to comfort him but her ways are bizarre and zuko visibly gets uncomfortable and he withdraws from her throughout the series . I don't know what the writers were thinking having them as endgame . Thank goodness they don't end up together in the comics , I'm going to be seriously disappointed if I come to knwo that zuko and Mai get married . They both deserve better .
@brunoss.3273
@brunoss.3273 3 жыл бұрын
I am really liking this video, I just want to say, I'm not really a shipper but I saw a 2 hour video about Zutara on a KZbin channel called Sneezy reviews, and I finally get why people ship them. I now kinda do too.
@yours_eve2001
@yours_eve2001 3 жыл бұрын
I watched the video too😆😆
@cookiecat0503
@cookiecat0503 2 жыл бұрын
omg I literally just watched that video
@Wheelwalker8
@Wheelwalker8 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the wagon!
@gemkitten984
@gemkitten984 11 ай бұрын
Omg I Love that video. Sneezy brought up points I never even thought of. Not only did she justify Zutara in a romantic sense, but also in a narrative, symbolic, and thematic sense. I was like "wow, I knew it was good, but I didn't know it was THAT good!" I was never always a Zutara shipper - that was a development during my mid-teens - but I was never really a Kataang shipper either. Since I was a kid, I kinda always saw Katara as Aang's big sister, so you can imagine my utter shock seeing them kiss in the finale lmao. After rewatching the show more times than I can count, I tried to see them more in a romantic sense, and I did find a few scenes of them to be cute. But it never grew into more than temporary cuteness for me, and Katara's motherly behavior ultimately squashed it. It never felt like something I could take seriously nor imagine long-term. Kataang has always been something I've fundamentally disagreed with, even if I couldn't fully understand why. And now I fully understand why lol. But even watching the finale when I was little, it just felt odd seeing something I thought was clearly one-sided being shoved in my face when I thought the ending scene was supposed to be about the Gaang as a whole. Since I was younger, I've always cared more about a good story with substance rather than a fluffy (flimsy) romance put on for laughs and coos, so I guess it was natural for me to take a liking to Zutara as I got older. Plot first, romance second. If a romance just so happens to enhance the plot, now that's just icing on the cake. Sneezy bringing out all the arguments centered on storytelling as a whole really spoke to me, and brought me from just thinking Zutara could've been "kinda cute" to knowing they would've been the best choice for each other and the story as a whole. Now I just take the voice actors of Zuko and Katara shipping Zutara as it being canon lol!
@LonelyLittleTofu
@LonelyLittleTofu 9 ай бұрын
That Sneezy video is the Zutara bible and I love it for that.
@LakinMae5
@LakinMae5 9 ай бұрын
The fortune teller saying to Aang that she “sees no one” in is future, while “Sees no one” could mean his love interest literally sees no one thus is blind, who is blind Toph!
@LonelyLittleTofu
@LonelyLittleTofu 9 ай бұрын
Ohhhhhhhhh, this is some big brain thinking. Pair this with the theory that Toph is a reincarnation of Avatar Kuruk’s lover and that’s why Aang saw Toph in the swamp despite not meeting her yet and it could be really fun.
@K9TheFirst1
@K9TheFirst1 9 ай бұрын
Toph and Aang as parents would've been cool. Toph is rich so thry can hire a governess, but i love the idea of Aang and Toph swapping "Take Kids to Work Day" duties. And no way is Toph going to let Aang squeak by letting Bumi II feel unloced because of no bending.
@sparkyblue7016
@sparkyblue7016 3 жыл бұрын
"Again , I didn't write the show , I'm just commenting on what is in front of my face." Lmaoo , this line , yes , I'm gonna tell people this now when they ask me how'd I reach the conclusion for zutara .
@pretty.odd.
@pretty.odd. 3 жыл бұрын
"It's the push and pull for me. It's the Tui and La for me" omggg i'm really trying not to spam the comments but literally all of your Zutara commentary is on. point.
@espyro3034
@espyro3034 3 жыл бұрын
1:06:18 Not only did he go right past Suki, but the boi PUSHED her out of the way to get to Katara?!?!?!?!!!!??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
@irena6197
@irena6197 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@renewannewithaneplease5546
@renewannewithaneplease5546 3 жыл бұрын
boi love her to bits and pieces 😭💜
@Jay.T4NA
@Jay.T4NA 3 жыл бұрын
HE DID OMG 🤣🤣🤣
@danielalaiz419
@danielalaiz419 2 жыл бұрын
zuko:i need to save katara😏 suki get fuck out of my way🙄 ok she saves now🙏 suki:am i not human? 🙃
@kinda_cold_in_the_closet
@kinda_cold_in_the_closet 2 жыл бұрын
suki is suki she don't need a man she can parkour her way outta there lmfao also i don't think she would've accepted the help
@mistylol7614
@mistylol7614 Жыл бұрын
29:48 - 30:02 It mentions how the fire chakra was blocked by shame and the water by guilt. Then you realize that’s exactly what Zuko and Katara feel and are battling. Zuko is dealing with the shame that his father bestowed upon him when he was banished and sent to find the avatar to restore his honor. And Katara is dealing with the guilt or her mothers death and how she died protecting her.
@Jay.T4NA
@Jay.T4NA 3 жыл бұрын
So Iroh says “DESTINY IS A FUNNY THING” as KATARA TOUCHES ZUKOS SCAR?! COME THE HELL ON THE WRITERS KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING THEY GOT SCARED AND BACKTRACKED
@RachSoRandom
@RachSoRandom 3 жыл бұрын
Lol full disclosure that was some editing magic on my end. But Iroh still says it in the same episode! Just not in that exact moment :)
@clarissaguyot6415
@clarissaguyot6415 Жыл бұрын
Also I've read a theories somewhere that what iroh tell aang to him about choosing love and katara over his duty ( or something like that, it's the same conversation anyway )... Might have been for zuko and not aang , because aang kind of need to choose the world has the avatar - it was something like that don't remember it exactly
@milka9164
@milka9164 3 жыл бұрын
47:53 yeah and remember when he said to Katara « I rise up with the sun, you rise up with the moon » , in his first interaction with Mai ( after he betrayed katara and his uncle) before she come talk with zuko, he was looking the sea AND the mooooon, the full moon, maybe he was thinking about katara and the way that she was the first in the gaang to trust him and maybe reconsider his choice to betrayed his uncle and her at least a little bit just saying 🤷🏾‍♀️
@donalddonald348
@donalddonald348 7 ай бұрын
Aang was the first to trust him, not katara…
@rachaelm7084
@rachaelm7084 3 жыл бұрын
1:14:05 I’m sick in bed watching and you made me laugh SO HARD! “SHe’S NoT CoFusED aAnG!”
@notazula
@notazula 3 жыл бұрын
Here's another *aang* 26:05
@SMinor-wn3mp
@SMinor-wn3mp 3 жыл бұрын
She really wasn't confused, she was just not sure how to break it to him.
@rachaelm7084
@rachaelm7084 3 жыл бұрын
@@notazula 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@rachaelm7084
@rachaelm7084 3 жыл бұрын
@@SMinor-wn3mp Right?! Hella awkward.
@rachaelm7084
@rachaelm7084 Жыл бұрын
@Ark ark the quirkiest Kataang shipper 😂
@CJWest08
@CJWest08 3 жыл бұрын
The misogyny in parts of this show is due to the show runners who wanted katara and aang to be canon. And it’s reflected in their treatment of katara and korra in legend of korra as well.
@Eclecticlly
@Eclecticlly 2 жыл бұрын
exactly I have always said this when I heard that they wanted katara and aang to be together just bc they were Aang growing up and they. wanted to get the girl. Katara's feelings and wants be damned
@TheOwlQueen
@TheOwlQueen 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously, Kataang only makes sense as a natural conclusion of the show if you think of women as prizes that men earn through good deeds. And if you think women should be mothers to their boyfriends.
@MegaMilenche
@MegaMilenche Жыл бұрын
@@yanim5425 And that was him being a bad father since he was telling her what she must do and not trying to understand her feelings and helping her resolve her issue. Either way, Aang is bad for Katara.
@MegaMilenche
@MegaMilenche Жыл бұрын
@@yanim5425 Aang wasn't right the entire time, he was a moralistic pompous ass. For a character who has supposedly superior spiritual skill, he is grossly lacking in understanding of other people and what they need. What Katara needed was to be listened and heard, not told what to do by her child.
@MegaMilenche
@MegaMilenche Жыл бұрын
@@yanim5425 God, you are so delusional.
@kinda_cold_in_the_closet
@kinda_cold_in_the_closet 2 жыл бұрын
DID YA'LL SEE THE SIMILARITIES BETWEN THE CAVERN SCENE AND THE SECRET TUNNEL SCENE? The scene in the crystal coves brings a striking resemblance to the ~secret tunnel~ scene. - The lovers separated by war, their colors were literally red and blue - The crystals (duh) But what makes this scene different than the first and more important? The difference between Katara's reactions. In the ~secret tunnel~ scene, Katara kisses Aang (a physical act) and runs off like it's nothing. In the cavern scene, however, she bonds with Zuko, understanding his trauma, understanding that they share a moral compass. When Katara leaves, this time, she lingers, and you could see how much it hurt her to part ways with him, the only person who truly understood her. She made an emotional connection, which cements itself deeper than any physical act can. Aang and Katara's relationship lies with pretty declarations of love and physical gifts. Zuko and Katara's relationship would lie in the wounds they carry, and the sense of peace and calm they bring each other. That's why Katara was so hurt when he betrayed her. The only person she thought could understand her left.
@distorityedan3081
@distorityedan3081 3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy i found someone else who says the same as me about Zuko and Katara's personalities: they may look as opposites, they may have opposite backgrounds, but they themselves, are definitely More alike (and therefore, compatible), than their actual canon pairings Something i do not agree with, tho, Is about the relevance of the first half of s3. Especially Sokka's master episode. The point was not the sword, but giving Sokka some charachter development. Is part of what makes the show so great: It wasn't just about Aang and Zuko.
@notazula
@notazula 3 жыл бұрын
This video made me ship Zutara, good job, girl
@notazula
@notazula 3 жыл бұрын
Don't mind this xoxo 18:18 swamp time 19:30 best character appears 21:33 zukos ugly hair 22:03 earthbending lesson 25:06 toph is a queen 😭 26:00 yesyesyesyesyes 26:32 JIN 30:14 TOPH RULES 32:02 YESJSJSJSHSHTOKKA 33:38 TOPH IROH 🤞 42:45 painted lady 42:51 roleplay 😘😘 43:46 TOKKATOKKATOKAA 51:04 aangs mom kink 1:08:00 locking katara like mai 😩 1:10:03 taang and zutara 😫😫😫 1:10:44 toph is flawless ✨ 1:13:46 AFFECTION 1:20:50 TOPH BEING AMAIZNG 1:21:47 if toph died 1:25:15 IF TAANG HAD KIDS
@dipannitasarah5521
@dipannitasarah5521 3 жыл бұрын
@@notazula Check this one out then! Such a great analysis into why Zutara truly is the best pairing. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4PbpYqDhKmZd8U
@notazula
@notazula 3 жыл бұрын
@@dipannitasarah5521 Thank, man. I'll definitely check it out
@amuroray9115
@amuroray9115 3 жыл бұрын
@@dipannitasarah5521 I just watched that video. Still not really into Zutara ship
@dipannitasarah5521
@dipannitasarah5521 3 жыл бұрын
@@amuroray9115 of course, that's your opinion and at the end of the day, it's just a show! Lol have a good day
@generalcomplaints393
@generalcomplaints393 2 жыл бұрын
Your comment on Yin and Yang is the reason why I ship Zutara. Both are complete opposites in case of their elements, nationalities, upbringing, etc. but in case of their personalities they are very similar and that does represent Yin and Yang, Tui and La, the sun and the moon to me. And on top of that it represents the overall theme of this show, harmony and peace between opposites. They could have had a home run…
@mayday3306
@mayday3306 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. A lot of people misinterpret and believe that completeness comes from one person being Ying and the other Yang but the show is trying to depict that people have both within themselves. And Katara and Zuko are the embodiment of moral duality but come from opposite sides of war, bending styles, upbringings, etcetera and it's poetic because they are able to come together and understand each other and heal is because they've both struggled with good and band. They're opposites but not at the same time. Tui and La, push and pull, eternal dance, to keep balance meaning you need both. Ying and Yang, Iroh says, will always come back together in lightning bending because separating them is unbalanced. Sun and moon when
@wildcatste
@wildcatste 3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with you on the triumphs, but ultimate failure of the bloodbender episode. Also, I think that Mai X Zuko is dysfunctional on purpose- because it's funny, but also because it shows how Zuko doesn't fit in with fire nation (as run by his father) anymore. Mai, aside from her last minute turn on Azula, pretty much represents the casual cruelty of the fire nation. After his time in exile Zuko can't just accept that casual cruelty anymore.
@kinda_cold_in_the_closet
@kinda_cold_in_the_closet 2 жыл бұрын
yes, and the clear dysfunction between Maiko and Kataang coincidentally makes Zutara all the more satisfying 😂
@sansastark4040
@sansastark4040 3 жыл бұрын
I think that it's really interesting to note that Katara saying she hasn't really had time to do reckless stuff like in the first episode until meeting aang is such a good indicator of how war torn this universe actually is.
@CJWest08
@CJWest08 3 жыл бұрын
Aang's arc in the first half of Season 3 should've been "how am I going to find a firebending teacher?". He could've kept growing (addressing his fear of fire and his guilt at hurting Katara) but they wanted him to dance I guess.
@sparkyblue7016
@sparkyblue7016 3 жыл бұрын
That would've been so much better .
@hikicho
@hikicho 3 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered why katara never offered jet the special water, but zuko. Interesting! xDDDD
@Jay.T4NA
@Jay.T4NA 3 жыл бұрын
SHE JUST LETS JET DIE!!! But was willing to heal a scar?! Mmmmmmmmmoky
@brigantiablackbird
@brigantiablackbird 3 жыл бұрын
I hadn't thought of that before, and the implications of your observation just sunk in. It never occurred to Katara to use the spirit water to try and heal Jet--but after a conversation with Zuko and suddenly she wants to heal the burn boo-boo. Perhaps on a purely unconscious level, Katara's natural instinct was to do more for Zuko than she would for others. Maybe this isn't noticed as often because Katara is such a caring and giving person in general. But cue Zuko, and Katara's instinct was to offer another level.
@rftg1793
@rftg1793 Жыл бұрын
Girl I was already shipping Zutara but you got me into TophxAang like I’ve never seen it that way unti now 🤯 I love it!❤
@sanjomaz
@sanjomaz 3 жыл бұрын
It’s also interesting to see the scene staging of how Aang is still flustered/hurt sitting behind and between Katara and Zuko, and then the camera zooms in on Aang once the Comet part shows up in the play. To me this symbolizes how Aang needed to quit brooding on his feelings for Katara (and her possible feelings abt Zuko) and instead put all that energy and focus on the Comet and his fight with the Fire Lord. 😞
@lillianb1516
@lillianb1516 3 жыл бұрын
"So hitting people is how she shows affection. Interesting." *immediately cuts to **1:13:47* ASKDAKSSADKLKDSALKS PLEASE WHY AM I CRYING LAUGHING AT THIS
@notazula
@notazula 3 жыл бұрын
BRO IKR
@ЮліяЄмельянова-т6щ
@ЮліяЄмельянова-т6щ 3 жыл бұрын
Music also made this moment iconic😂😂😂
@stephylynnpatch
@stephylynnpatch 3 жыл бұрын
Okay bare with me for this. Ty lee immobilized Katara with her chi blocking Katara was on the floor of the earth kingdom Palace and we know after that she is thrown into the crystal caves. ( Similar color of the cave of two lovers with green glowing crystals just saying) While Aang is meditating he has that "vision" of Katara in a tiny little room, with shackles on. And her actual line completely mirrors what the guru said "let her go" Katara's line is "let me go" someone pointed this out to me and I'm curious what other people think.
@amuroray9115
@amuroray9115 3 жыл бұрын
Well it’s interesting
@MJlover341
@MJlover341 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely think the writers were hinting at them going separate ways here
@Jay.T4NA
@Jay.T4NA 3 жыл бұрын
OH WHAAAAAT I DIDNT EVEN THINK OMG DHSKDKD
@danielalaiz419
@danielalaiz419 2 жыл бұрын
the scenes in which aang enters the avatar state perfectly symbolizes this attachment he has for katara, (only she can get him out of the trance) the attachment that guru pathik was talking about is the attachment that causes emotional dependence in which the person finds his refuge, jealousy is also a characteristic of this attachment in which in the buddhist guelupa school (one of the aspects of buddhism in which the air nomads speech was inspired) it happens that buddhist love is related to independence and benevolence loving more does not expect to be loved that is connected to altruism you can love but not be dependent on that refuge, while Western love is linked to reciprocity, giving and receiving (which many confuse with attachment) Western love focuses more on the well-being of the "I" I do this for you and you do this for me and we all gain ownership too you are mine and i am yours why polygamy in air nomads culture (aaron eharz knew what he was writing) mike and bryan are just circus clowns
@RiseeRee
@RiseeRee 3 жыл бұрын
You’re a Zutara shipper and you said purple is the best color? I’m sold! Also, Katara and Zuko are the only two in the show to call Ty-Lee “circus freak”. Couples should be united in their insults after all. Katara had no way of knowing that Earth King Kuei blabbed about the invasion plan. She likely would’ve thought he kept it on a need-to-know basis. Toph is the one who is logical about what happened with Zuko because unlike the rest of them, she wasn’t chased around the world by him. That’s why she doesn’t get a life changing field trip with Zuko lol. I personally didn’t 100% blame Katara for saying Sokka didn’t love their mother like she did. Because Sokka doesn’t know she overheard him saying he can’t even remember what their mother looks like, he only sees Katara’s face in her place.
@hi-tr1bt
@hi-tr1bt Жыл бұрын
still it would've been nice to see their relationship grow as the big bro with the scar little sister gremling who gives 0 shits for scars bc shes blind and it was COMPLETELY wrong for katara to say what she did to sokka about that mother. thats plain hurtful and mean which is nothing like her. i couldn't imagine my own sibling telling me that i didn't love my dead mother. NOBODY should be told that if a close relative died ESPECIALLY by someone who is close to you
@Scarlet_Starlight
@Scarlet_Starlight 4 ай бұрын
@@hi-tr1btKatara never said that Sokka didn’t love Kaya. She said he didn’t love her LIKE she did, not as much, and not that he didn’t love her at all.
@mariahwilliams4386
@mariahwilliams4386 Жыл бұрын
Get out of my head!!! I’ve been wanting to create a fanfic of ATLA reimagined with zuko and katara having a daughter who is in line for the thrown of the Fire Nation, also being a water bender 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 we were so robbed. I wasn’t a fan of Zutara as a kid but as an adult rewatching the show I see what could’ve been and I will never be able to get over it….
@adriana.5446
@adriana.5446 9 ай бұрын
Where can I find this fanfic😃😃
@mariahwilliams4386
@mariahwilliams4386 9 ай бұрын
@@adriana.5446 I never wrote it but Im sure theres something out there lol if not I might do it over the summer idk ;p
@pretty.odd.
@pretty.odd. 3 жыл бұрын
HAMA 👏🏾 IS 👏🏾 RIGHT 👏🏾. THE MEDICAL IMPLICATIONS OF BLOODBENDING. Fancanon explores the possibilities but the show's handling of it is so disappointing.
@lilughigliotto3032
@lilughigliotto3032 3 жыл бұрын
46:40 like, every time that Zuko has a mental crisis is during the night, with water or the moon
@Casutama
@Casutama 3 жыл бұрын
I do like Toph but I disagree that she's flawless. As for Suki (whom I also love), it's easy to be flawless when you hardly get any character development. (Not Suki's fault, that's definitely on the writers!)
@yours_eve2001
@yours_eve2001 Жыл бұрын
In the greek dub, when Katara says to Aang to stop rubbing his eye, Aang replies " Yes mum." so he called her mum, she portrayed his mum, she acted like his mum and then they ended up together? That is an example of mummy issues
@sleepyrose69
@sleepyrose69 9 ай бұрын
oedipus would be proud!
@yours_eve2001
@yours_eve2001 9 ай бұрын
your comment is amazing ahahaha@@sleepyrose69
@ceciliafaith4132
@ceciliafaith4132 8 ай бұрын
@sleepyrose69 I should not have laughed as hard as I did at that comment- 🤣🤣
@donalddonald348
@donalddonald348 7 ай бұрын
That’s because they’re literally discussing her acting motherly, so it’s played as a joke.
@Scarlet_Starlight
@Scarlet_Starlight 4 ай бұрын
@@donalddonald348you don’t make those jokes between two characters that are meant to be love interests.
@sarhathegem7730
@sarhathegem7730 2 жыл бұрын
So one thing that I’ve seen is that Katara ending up with Aang was a self insert fantasy payoff that came from one of the writers own insecurity of not being the ‘popular one that got the girl’ in his childhood. 😐
@ventusbruma1039
@ventusbruma1039 Жыл бұрын
Yes, they have said this several times in interviews. That they were nerds and wanted the "hero to get the girl" they never could. They even made adult Aang look like Mike. Meanwhile the zutara elements in the show come from Aaron and Elizabeth, the writers who were the ones that wrote and gave the show all it's deeper metaphors and themes. (Example: the guru episode was written by Aaron, edited by Bryke)
@hellfire4you
@hellfire4you Жыл бұрын
Katara’s reaction at 12:04 is hilarious to me, because she looks more upset than excited or happy.
@mooneditor_500
@mooneditor_500 10 ай бұрын
34:48 I have alway said that this is the most intimate scene in the whole show whether you ship them or not that is undeniable. The trust and vulnerability that took from them
@tarribarnes5222
@tarribarnes5222 Жыл бұрын
I know I'm late to the party, I saw the episode with "mang" (cute little girl, I would actually like to see that happen), the "fortune teller" said Katana would fall in love with "a very powerful bender", but towards the end of the the series Zuko becomes a "very powerful bender" as well.
@adriana.5446
@adriana.5446 9 ай бұрын
FINALLY, SOMEONE BROUGHT IT UP THE EPISODE I HATED, no really, I hated because it frustrated me that Katara thinks Aang IS the powerful bender, like just because he is THE avatar doesn't mean he's a powerful bender with all 4 elements, while we saw Zuko proving again and again, that Aang is the only powerful bender, Zuko is as well and he put the final nail in the coffin he's a powerful bender but the only disadvantage for Zuko is the Aang can control all four elements
@yinkam7902
@yinkam7902 3 жыл бұрын
Also all the romantic ships have a scene in the moonlight. Sokka and Yue. Aang and Toph. Sokka and Suki. ZUKO AND KATARA. Katara and Aang.
@pinkpotatowarrior
@pinkpotatowarrior 8 ай бұрын
Also another thing Toph and Aang have in common, is that they both had crushes on people who were older than them and they were siblings - Katara and Sokka.
@stephylynnpatch
@stephylynnpatch 3 жыл бұрын
A little more on the necklace. Not only is it just in this episode. It's literally only on her for like 1 minute maybe 2 because by the time they reach the Aunt whoo's town it's gone. You know if Kataang really was the "dna" of the show you'd think Bryke would have caught that before finalizing the episode.
@Jay.T4NA
@Jay.T4NA 3 жыл бұрын
hahahahahaha OMG Katara just throws it away off screen 🤣🤣
@aminaismyname4318
@aminaismyname4318 Жыл бұрын
​@KataangforlifeUwULmfaoo 😂😂
@confusioncentral7331
@confusioncentral7331 3 жыл бұрын
I recently watched ATLA myself and started shipping Zutara towards the end, but even then, them not being together in the end was fine by me. But I was interested in learning more about the ship and ended up finding a fanfic in the comments of a video. It's called Fall Of The White Lotus and the main story follows Zuko x Katara, but there's also some Aang x Toph. It's really good and I'd really recommend it to all of you!
@sparkyblue7016
@sparkyblue7016 3 жыл бұрын
Omg I've read that , and may I say chefs kiss . Is recommended to all.
@Semein18
@Semein18 3 жыл бұрын
I love how you point out all the Mulan voice actors in ATLA!
@Jay.T4NA
@Jay.T4NA 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE THIS! Zutara just makes SO MUCH NARRATIVE SENSE and they're amazing to watch together!
@sparkyblue7016
@sparkyblue7016 3 жыл бұрын
The incident of the crystal catacombs holds so much meaning and it goes even deeper . Katara leaving him there was one of nudges which drove him to betray everyone. She had raised up his hopes , his hopes of being free of this assault , to be free and control his own Destiny . The scar was a big part of his life , a constant reminder of his shamfulness , and when he got a beacon of hope , a hope that he could get better . Aang came and she chose aang over him , they abandoned him , he was again the second choice , the abandoned choice . Ofcourse Katara doesn't know the way in which she affected Zuko . But I belive that having his hopes crushed , having the fact that he could be rid of the scar crushed was a big thing for him . He had shown his most vulnerable side to someone , allowed himself to be weak by letting her touch him but she turned her back against him . And then when the opportunity that he could get his honor back , secure a place somewhere in the world , be accepted at least somewhere , he dove for it . If Katara would've helped him , maybe things would've been a bit different. (But personally I think that zuko needed to go through the 1st half of s3) . And I'm just giving how I perceived the scene . I was really really sad during that and seeing him so vulnerable was heartbreaking.
@Jay.T4NA
@Jay.T4NA 3 жыл бұрын
And then they had those look backs as she walks away!!!
@notazula
@notazula 3 жыл бұрын
DAMN THAT LEAVES OF THE VINE SCENE WAS SO POWERFUL 😭😭😭😭😭✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
@SMinor-wn3mp
@SMinor-wn3mp 3 жыл бұрын
Made my love for Zutara even stronger and more deeper. I love it! When you pointed out the scent, being purple (my favorite color) being a mix of red and purple which I knew already but subconsciously didn't realize it in the show, that was just amazing. I feel like the creators cannoned Zutara with that play, as a little favor for Zutara. Like a *hint hint, *wink wink 😉 typ of thing to give us closure, being that you said it was called truth island. So maybe they did this to apese both sides although I heard they did it to mock. But I dont know I dont see it that way, all it did was solidify their relationship to me. This is a dynamic that will love on forever. Kataang is: I dont knkw it just doesn't hit like Zutara, I've even forced myself to see the romance between Aang and Katara and I literally couldn't and can't even if I wanted to. I feel like if Zuko and Katara were real they would curse the creators out lol But this was an awesome AWESOME well broken down video, I enjoyed watching it and leaning new hints that I did not see. Thankyou hope to see more.
@sparkyblue7016
@sparkyblue7016 3 жыл бұрын
The writers did mock zutarians by saying that people find them hot and just want to be with zuko so they insert themselves as Katara . They literally said that . I mean why the hell would you mock us when you give constant hints about their relationship and even show it in your play and then forget some things about your own ship . Like that necklace which he spent so much time on making for her , just disappeared , never to be seen again . They don't even talk about the forced kiss , she said she was confused but somehow during the show in the background she decided that she wants to be with him . Like we don't even get to see the reason . 😒 And Kataras last interaction in the show with aang before the teashop and kiss was of him getting angry on her and lashing out and going away on the spirit journey . Like make things clear why mess up your own ship.
@sanjomaz
@sanjomaz 3 жыл бұрын
Ugh- I would've loved it if ATLA writers had the gumption to write an honest-to-goodness scene bw Aang and Katara, where Aang confessed to her that the reason he had trouble controlling the avatar state was bc of his love for her. Deep down I wish the writers had shown Katara’s genuine reaction to this info, and see if, after knowing just how deeply Aang’s feelings had gotten for her throughout their time together, if she would either A) finally (?) confess her feelings for him and thank him for putting her on that high pedestal, but then tell him to focus on the war and learn to let go of her with the faith that she’ll be there for him in the end... Or... B) tell Aang in her straightened-up motherly voice (which let's face it, has never left her since the beginning of the show) that he needs to let her go, bc the world is depending on him, and also apologize for her behavior, bc she knows now that she had led him on for so long without fully understanding her own feelings for him, as if waiting for those romantic feelings to match his... and they haven't. And the focus needs to be on the war. She would also push herself to make professional boundaries between them as Aang copes with this attachment to her. Like, deep down, with the flow of the ATLA narrative and the character arcs of both Aang and Katara, you know the writers would've gone with Option B if they'd been able to write up a scene like that, but no. Showrunners stepped in and said: It was all about what Aang wanted. Aang had to get the girl. Aang had to win. And that's what we got for the Finale. Never mind how Katara feels about that relationship despite those two uncalled-for, less-than-desired kisses... in the end she kisses him. And it's not just a kiss... it's a very uncomfortably long, passionate shot of them... as if the ShowRunners needed to rub it in our faces that Kataang was End Game. Ugh. Just. No Thanks.
@sparkyblue7016
@sparkyblue7016 3 жыл бұрын
Most of the times for a character to grow we have two major conflicts . The characters wants and his needs . For aang , his want is to stay with Katara , be happy , have fun , be a kid but his need is to defeat the fire lord and bring balance to the world and master the avatar state . For which he has to let go of his want for Katara . Now this is where character development takes place when the character is challenged and they have to take up the need and grow as a person . The need comples them to grow and shows them that not everything will be as you want . But in Atla , they don't do that , aang fulfilled his needs and wants . It wouldn't have been a problem , if they hadn't presented him letting go of Katara to go into the avatar state as the most important thing . But they did . And aang didn't grow as a character at all. That's what still bugs me . He had to let go of Katara and he knew that yet he didn't, even yangchen told him to but he didn't listen . This just shows his immaturity as a character and the fact that he constantly says about saving the world but can't let go of Katara whom he only has a crush on??? He thinks that he loves her , but he feels entitled to her . They never resolved the forced kiss and she just decided in the background that he ended the war so she should be with him . And that kiss at the end was just ugh . As a 14 year old girl , I will write it down on paper that no 14 year old would want to make out that passionately with a 12 year old . The thing about teenagers is that every year adds to their maturity , a 13 year old is bound to be more mature than a 12 year old even though the difference is only 1 . As we are still growing, rapidly forming an understanding of the world around us . That's why it bugs people so much when they see aang who is clearly very immature (its not a bad thing , he's only 12) to be with Katara who is 14 and is very mature and has gone through a lot . Plus she was not comfortable during that scene , she pulled her hair Slightly trying to give him a soft rejection but nope . He had to do it . Kataang has a lot of problems which need to be fixed. She became a prize and trophy in the end .
@melissam6388
@melissam6388 2 жыл бұрын
When Zuko and Katara are in the catacomb underneath the earth kingdom it calls back to the two lovers of omashu who, even though they were both from the earth king from wore blue and red, torn apart from each apart because of a war was able to find a way to unite themselves and be together (in life briefly, and then forever in death). IMAGERY AND METAPHORS PEOPLEEEE
@thejurijo9388
@thejurijo9388 6 ай бұрын
Zuko didn't just keep her necklace in his pocket for several episodes. Oh no. He wore it around his wrist for several episodes! HE WORE HER NECKLACE!
@wildcatste
@wildcatste 3 жыл бұрын
Validating my shipping of Aang with both Toph and Meng by both those characters being voiced by the same actress!
@yariheredia001
@yariheredia001 2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad that I’m not the only one who is angry out how they ruined Katara in LOK and the comics there’s no way Katara would have ever allowed that disrespect to happen to how Aang spoke to her in the comics to LOK where she barely spoke and was just seen as the Avatar’s wife even though she definitely would have gone above and beyond to help the people she could like uh the painted lady ? She literally did that to help the people and improve their living conditions
@QSB2711
@QSB2711 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think June is a teenager. Is still not a good thing what iroh did
@AStrangeWindmill
@AStrangeWindmill 3 жыл бұрын
@Zion Young People can breeze by it because they know it's not in there because "Iroh", it's in there because "we want to be an anime". It'd be a different, more frequent conversation if that sort of thing was actually an element of Iroh's character, like with db's Roshi or bnha's Mineta. It's place in "we want to be an anime" is a debate with so many exhibits that avatar doesn't even get a mention.
@briesullivan883
@briesullivan883 Жыл бұрын
I think Katara banned blood bending because of how **she** used it. She used it against the guy who she thought killed her mom, only to find out that she was wrong. I think she was so scarred by that.
@WorldWeaver
@WorldWeaver Жыл бұрын
I think youtube has learned that I prefer chaotic energy in my show analysis. Yes, Zutara is superior. Also, there's always been a bit of tension between them, if unseen by the characters, and however small. I'm just burning the memory of Zuko ending up with Mei and Katara ending up with Aang, and replacing them with Zuko and Katara getting a hint at a future relationship, bc it's just hands-down better.
@viaroderos3422
@viaroderos3422 3 жыл бұрын
You’re a soothing balm to my Zutara/Taang heart! Thank you, Queen!
@kays4682
@kays4682 3 жыл бұрын
Yesss! TOPH APPRECIATION! And can I just mention Mae Whitman and Dante Basco shipping it!!! (and how can I not also mention American Dragon!) Great video btw
@handsanitizer5127
@handsanitizer5127 2 жыл бұрын
Also, if Aang could tell Meng he wasn't interested and wouldn't like her that way THEN HE SHOULD HAVE UNDERSTOOD KATARA when she told him she saw him as a brother and was "confused" cuz he definitely pushed and pushed at it, but wouldn't tolerate it with Meng.
@restitvtororbis5330
@restitvtororbis5330 Жыл бұрын
Aang had no idea meng was interested in him until she literally asked him "you don't like me do you" which is the first scene he realized why she was acting like that. Also when did Katara ever say she thought of aang like a brother? Unless you're confusing the play that they watch where the actress playing katara says that, and the real katara literally says "I didn't say that, AN ACTOR SAID THAT"
@RainingPouringSnoring
@RainingPouringSnoring 7 ай бұрын
​@restitvtororbis5330 not a brother. A "sweet little guy, like Momo."
@lidiadiasdecastro4530
@lidiadiasdecastro4530 3 жыл бұрын
Giiiiirl, preach! You can't not ship Zutara, you just can't. Did we even watch the same show if you don't? Yes, girl, thank you.
@alinac5512
@alinac5512 3 жыл бұрын
To the whole Hamma point: yes, she says some factual things but she is hurting innocent civilians. She is dangerous and bitter. Thats the point. No matter how traumatized she is she is still doing wrong. Past trauma doesnt justify everything. You can still do the right thing. I agree with the bloodbending point though. Its good to have the skill Katara, doesnt mean you need to use it.
@gemkitten984
@gemkitten984 11 ай бұрын
Plus, it's not like the writers said you couldn't sympathize with her and show pity - that was the whole point of showing her past being locked up in that God awful prison. The writing that episode was perfectly clear to me: show that yes, Hama is a victim and what happened to her was horrible, but also show that she's lashing out with violence and hurting innocent people who had nothing to do with her torture or the raids on her people. I agree that the show could've touched on how bloodbending could have been monumental in progressing healing, especially in LOK (the fandom explores this more on their own). But the episode wasn't about that. It was meant to show, through Katara's character arc, that the world isn't in black and white; the preconceptions that Katara, and the viewers, have that one nation/people is all good or bad is challenged again by someone from the Water Tribe, which we saw as the good guys, performing such agregious and cruel actions. There is good and bad on all sides. That cruelty does not lie in only one group of people. Being a victim does not absolve you of any horrific actions you decide to commit. An abuser can be abused just as an abused can become an abuser - as with the cycle of abuse, and the cycle of revenge/hatred. Katara's not having an epiphany where she's thinking about a medical breakthrough and all the possible benefits bloodbending can bring, she's thinking about someone from her own culture, someone she trusted, taking control of people's bodies, her friends bodies, and using that power to harm others and lock them away in chains under the mountain to rot away forever. With bloodbending so directly tied to Hama and everything that she did with it, no, Katara is not going to be jumping for joy at her new "power up" lmao.
@pppotatoes
@pppotatoes 3 жыл бұрын
literally you had me laughing like 2 minutes into the video!! truly lost it at “jets tall... for a kid” also YES thank you for pointing out how good looking haru’s dad is like.... ok tyro. thank you for posting this
@zaarakhan4596
@zaarakhan4596 Жыл бұрын
BRO THATS THE ONLY THINK I HAVE AGAINST ATLA... THAT ZUTARA DIDNT HAPPEN. I LOVED THEM SO MUCH, THEY WERE SO GOOD TOGETHER- THEIR CHEMISTRY-ZUKO SAVING HER FROM THE ROCKS SCENE AND THE LIGHTNING IN THE FINAL AGNI KAI I CANT-
@jazzminewalker9628
@jazzminewalker9628 Жыл бұрын
Katara and Zuko are actually alike and that's why they bump heads so much lol I love it!
@freshoffthehook904
@freshoffthehook904 Жыл бұрын
So the cave scene between Zuko and Katara has all the parallels with the cave of 2 lovers.
@notazula
@notazula 3 жыл бұрын
this was very *_interesting_*
@iamironman5829
@iamironman5829 3 жыл бұрын
hm. *_INTERESTING_*
@quarantineboingboing9997
@quarantineboingboing9997 3 жыл бұрын
_intresting_
@karinamurphy6645
@karinamurphy6645 Жыл бұрын
The fact that I just binged the series again for like the 100th time and then come here to you commentate the whole series for 2 hours, this is dedication to a masterpiece. And this is pro-Zutara? Just an added bonus
@briesullivan883
@briesullivan883 Жыл бұрын
Zuko and Mai are like Harry and Cho (Harry Potter). In the books, Harry said that Cho represented his life and desires from the world before Sirius died. After Sirius died, his world turned completely upside down.
@justyouraveragelimeenjoyer8675
@justyouraveragelimeenjoyer8675 2 жыл бұрын
I know it's a kid's show but Zuko and Katara make for some good fanart ngl 😭✨
@AlashiaTuol
@AlashiaTuol 3 жыл бұрын
Also, for extra emotional punch - during end of the battle in Crossroads of Destiny, if you look at where everyone is in the room and then at Katara's face when she's holding Aang's body, the person she's staring at with utter heartbreak _is Zuko,_ as he approaches in a threatening manner, having helped apparently kill Aang. _Ouch._
@theredxo
@theredxo 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing quite like watching another Zutara fan offer a comprehensive breakdown as to why it truly is the OTP of Avatar! Great video!
@ebraheemfredericks5736
@ebraheemfredericks5736 9 ай бұрын
37:49 It was intentional. I was listening to the show's podcast and one of the co-creators stated that the shot of her holding Aang was based on this statue.
@rachaelm7084
@rachaelm7084 3 жыл бұрын
So... I came across your video on tumblr and I initially balked at the time stamp, but I thought “ this girl has my name, at least let me listen to the first 10 minutes”. And then I proceeded to listen to all of it. Lol When you show the parallel between the ending of avatar and how I Met your mother, I thought of Pam from the office telling Creed that corporate said that you have to identify the differences between the two pictures, and then she turns to the camera and says they’re exactly the same photo. Thank you for sharing this video essay. You shared fax, you showed receipts, and your editing was on point. Thank you fellow queen 😘
@cakecrumb095
@cakecrumb095 3 жыл бұрын
Ok but Taang on top of all this. A+ ship.
@vxBunBun
@vxBunBun 3 жыл бұрын
Not only did I agree with literally everything you said, but you had me cracking up the entire time as well lol
@confusioncentral7331
@confusioncentral7331 3 жыл бұрын
44:51 He gives her a sea shell, from the sea that is made of water....
@ileanagheorghisor
@ileanagheorghisor 9 ай бұрын
2 years later, we might get Zutara in the live action :3
@yours_eve2001
@yours_eve2001 3 жыл бұрын
I love that you're huffing and your expression in the last scenes of kataang🤣🤣🤣. I do the same too. And I agree about what you said about lok.
@internalscremaing5986
@internalscremaing5986 2 жыл бұрын
I pretend the final kiss and what LoK did to Katara do not exist. Reject canon, embrace delusion. Miss "I wanna fight" Katara ends up being treated like a glorified airbender incubator? I hate this, mom come pick me up. Putting the glaring differences in character aside, Zuko and Mai ending up together feels so disheartening. Especially from an abuse survivor pov, you're telling me she throws shit at him in the post-canon comic (another thing I pretend does not exist, selective memory is truly a blessing) and it's played for shits and giggles? Don't even get me started on the "remember how the last war meeting went" yes Mai thank you for the reminder I am sure he hasn't been haunted by it and isn't reminded of it every time he sees his reflection somwhere. This ain't it chief. "Zuko and Katara would only argue they would be so toxic!!!" sure jan, I'm not paying for your ophthalmologist visit but nice try.
@celestialmorpho
@celestialmorpho Жыл бұрын
probably my 3rd time watching 56:49 Privilege. A lot can happen in exile. He is not the same person 1:05:26 she doesn't get it 1:14:48 Zuko listens though 1:19:33 Aang never has to sacrifice anything but others do 1:23:00 Mai was compatible with Zuko's past self because that when he was the most unhappy. No growth on her part. 1:24:27 Statues and Meng
@StLouchet
@StLouchet 9 ай бұрын
This is an old video but... i am a Zutarian veteran from when the show was still airing (and the Kataang/Zutara shipping wars were waging. There were many casualities lmao) and i can definitely tell you: from interviews of the actors and writin staff, many believed it should have been Zuko and Katara as they actually do make narrative sense (and thematical sense). Bryke (Bryan Konetizko and Michael DiMartino) pushed back *hard*. There's even a storyboard artist that pointed out that the look on Katara's face in the show in Day of Black Sun? Someone had changed Katara's smiling expression in the storyboard to be that neutral/sad look so that "Omg!! Look! She DID feel the same as Aang!!!" Would come off as a "twist". Which is absolutely stupid. The reason Legend of Korra assassinated many beloved characters is because of the weak link: Bryke. They were head writers for Season 1 and for most of LoK's seasons after. Which is why there were many retcons to their mythology and to the characters.
@milka9164
@milka9164 3 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I’m wrong but in my opinion Katara reminds me of Shinobu Kocho of Demon Slayer like the way she adopted a motherly behavior to fill the void that her mother left definitely looks a lot like what shinobu did. Indeed before her sister died she was completely her opposite she was hot headed, tough and all but when her sister died (rip Kanae Kocho ) she completely adopted her sister’s behavior and habit like her way of smiling, her way of dressing, her compassionate and optimistic nature and all. I really thinks that this can be a way for some people to deal/ react to their close relation’s death. So Here it was just a link that I have seen between this two amazing and powerful characters ! Nice vid btw you're so funny!!
@olitaorru4513
@olitaorru4513 Ай бұрын
29:58 the fact that shame and guilt are the challenges that Zuko and Katara need to deal with is interesting. Zuko and the shame of his banishment and Katara and the guilt of being indirectly responsabile of her mother’s death!
@Maya_hee
@Maya_hee 10 ай бұрын
Zutaara is harmony, balance, empathy and Love. Kataang is a nice guy fantasy
@aimeesimone5875
@aimeesimone5875 8 ай бұрын
Thissssss. Kataang is incel energy. I will die on this hill. (Especially when Roku tells him to be persistent and then he forces a kiss on katara 🤢🤮)
@maybe_its_mia
@maybe_its_mia Жыл бұрын
Hi! 👋 I know I’m super late to the party, but I just wanted to say a few things: I honestly think that everybody should be allowed to ship whoever they want or have their own opinions without being harassed or shamed. Like I’ve actually seen hardcore Kataangers so as far as sending death threats to people for something as silly as liking a non-canon ship over what we ended up getting. If you don’t agree, fine. But just either type a respectful comment or don’t say anything at all and look for a video in favor of YOUR ship. As a Zutarian, I would never go out of my way to find a video on Kataang just to shit on it. And yes, you can make the argument that it’s different because Kataang is canon and Zutara is not. Like we’re aware that Kataang is canon. It doesn’t mean that we aren’t allowed to ship other characters. Also a huge argument that most Kataangers make is, “lol Zutarians are delusional.” Prefering a certain ship over the canon one DOES NOT make us delusional. However, genuinely believing that Zutara is actually canon is delusional. In fact, Kataangers who say that Zutara is bad because, “lol they literally hate each other” is actually being delusional. I’m aware that Zuko and Katara don’t have feelings for each other. But they definitely don’t hate each other! Have you even seen the 2nd half of Season 3? lol 😂 Also I love your reactions, especially 47:28 and 1:07:16 and 1:13:42. I wish the very best for you and all ATLA fans! ❤
@allisonrussell5160
@allisonrussell5160 9 ай бұрын
I love your idea for Toph and Aang dancing in the footloose episode!
@lilughigliotto3032
@lilughigliotto3032 3 жыл бұрын
11:00 powerful bender: yes, Aang is a powerful bender, but same Toph, Katara, Zuko, Azula, etc.
@jamesbutler3960
@jamesbutler3960 3 жыл бұрын
“Just the fact they made Toph Beifong; I’m a fan for life” I feel the same! 😂
@Quran_Heals_
@Quran_Heals_ 10 ай бұрын
Earth+ Air= Kiyosh's parents Toph+ Aang ❤❤❤❤
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