"Topography" Hammering - Timothy Roberts Cymbals

[@thatdrummeroz654]

This channel has definitely uplifted my respect towards the craftsmanship of cymbals. It's almost therapeutic to get an understanding on how the best frequencies are made for our legendary timeless instruments. Craft in a craft. Currently thinking about making a prototype ride I have more crash-able. Would love to send it your way just to have it treated with such quality care. Subscribing!

[@Reverie_Cymbals_Drums]

Thank you! It’s such a joy to be constantly learning about this wonderful instrument and sharing what I know. Thanks so much for following along! If you want to send that ride my way, I’ve got information on my website regarding modifications: reveriedrums.com/shop/p/cymbal-modification

[@weiggie66]

The second cymbal is my favorite. It sounds great across the entire surface.

[@BeesWaxMinder]

T H I S is what KZbin is For!!👍

[@Reverie_Cymbals_Drums]

🤘

[@johnburke568]

The final version of the raw topped full bell really surprised me. Huge change from before and after. Wow

[@ARDrummer]

Very cool to see some behind the scenes stuff. Nice work. Great idea marking the cymbal so you know when to stop hammering on the way back around.

[@drumswest]

Utterly fascinating! I have sooooooo much more respect for hand crafted cymbals after watching about a 100 of these videos. So many little factors and nuances that go into just the simple shape not to mention the actual tone. It's hard! I've been hammering a 16" crash and to get it a consistent shape is not even close to as easy as Timothy makes it look. These master crafters have taken an art form and made it accessible to us which is incredible. And the ones I've communicated with are very nice people, including Timothy. I think it's because of the Zen factor involved in the making of the cymbal. Thanks for the vids Timothy!

[@Reverie_Cymbals_Drums]

Thanks a bunch. Keep it up and you’ll be making fantastic cymbals in no time.

[@pixelpusher8986]

Making a lot of sense for explaining ride cymbal characteristics. Very helpful - Thanks!!

[@basementdrumlab]

Wow, so much awesome in this one video. Thank you for sharing your craft.

[@jooeleng]

Hi! Would love to see even more of you modifying cymbals :)

[@jooeleng]

The “cymbal mod” series

[@Reverie_Cymbals_Drums]

Yes! I got a mod video queued up for next week 🤘

[@jooeleng]

@@Reverie_Cymbals_Drums Amazing! It's interesting to see your and your customers thoughts on different cymbals and hot to fix them

[@JFKDrummer]

Awesome videos!😎

[@dhmtbr2551]

Love the content, probably my favorite of your videos…so far ( interviews aside) More content like this please…the more informed your customer base the better for you both…a great informational video…nice job !

[@dhmtbr2551]

Oh yeah…cymbal numba’ 2 final version🔥

[@Reverie_Cymbals_Drums]

Thanks! I plan on doing a lot more like this!

[@cymbaljunkie]

Great cymbals and great explanation of your thought process, what you wanted to achieve, and how you went about it. Perfect example of how a cymbal can be made to "open up" with both the high and low frequencies at the same time. Ultimately for me the 2nd working was better for that reason. Whether one prefers an airy or trashy cymbal, these just sounded more "alive" after the final working. Great job!

[@Reverie_Cymbals_Drums]

Thank you!

[@w.carlblackwell]

Excellent video! Thanks for helping to take the arcane out of cymbal making. I definitely prefer the post-heavy hammering versions on both, although I would probably lean for something in between the original and the final hammering on the partially lathed cymbal for a typical jazz gig. I wish I had the opportunity to play cymbals with more "dragon's breath". :) Keep up the great work, these videos are spot on!

[@CymbalONE1]

Good job!

[@Reverie_Cymbals_Drums]

Thanks!

[@brent3760]

You make great videos Tim

[@Reverie_Cymbals_Drums]

Thanks, Brent 🙌

[@brent3760]

@@Reverie_Cymbals_Drums 🙌🙌

[@drumswest]

I thought both cymbals before were great. However, the after was even better! The second half-lathed is freaking awesome. It's interesting how the pitch just barely went lower but the overall vibe of it changed drastically. Really great cymbals; I'd use them both.

[@joc8]

Another great video, so informative! I've seen videos of cymbals being hammered in the Turkish foundries, but not being lathed... as an aside, what happens to the 'lathe hay', is it recycled for something else? Thank you for posting these videos, I'm learning something about the age-old art of cymbal-smithing, which makes one appreciate these instruments even more.

[@Reverie_Cymbals_Drums]

Thanks for watching! I recycle the scrap at a metal processing facility.

[@bdc211]

if someone wanted a copy of the second cymbal at the end, what would they ask for upon ordering?? i feel like i could roam around in that ride's space for hours at a time.. close your eyes, and its like youre in a place to be explored.. amazing!! thanks for your time!!

[@Reverie_Cymbals_Drums]

Thanks! That would a TR "redux" style commission of an Acacia series ride. I'd be happy to make another one of these! Here's the link to order: reveriedrums.com/shop/p/ride-cymbal-commission Let me know if you have any questions!

[@perfektno]

24.30 minutes cymbal is a story! Peaceful drive

[@gabrielhammersmokenmirrors3199]

I really dig the final version of the half flat. the other ride I like best in the in between state

[@kevindohn6776]

It's really hard to describe sound with words, I've noticed. I love cymbals, I always want more ! DO you make them from scratch, like melting and combining the metals, and flattening the discs, all that stuff I've seen on Zildjian videos for example ?

[@Reverie_Cymbals_Drums]

Very difficult indeed! I don’t make them entirely from scratch. The creation of the blanks via meting together copper and tin is done in Turkey at the foundries that have been doing it for hundreds of years. My work is entirely “cold forming” the metal into shape and lathing it.

[@Carsonchildersmusicnow]

Do you typically commit to a hammer size for everything you do?

[@Reverie_Cymbals_Drums]

I'll use upwards of 3 or 4 hammers on one cymbal sometimes.

[@rogerrisley3492]

Hi Timothy Would you be willing to make video display of your hammers and anvils Thank you

[@Reverie_Cymbals_Drums]

Definitely! I'm planning on it!

[@o0junglist0o93]

Do you apply any coating after finishing each cymbal?

[@Reverie_Cymbals_Drums]

@@o0junglist0o93 it depends. Sometimes I apply a patina, sometimes a wax finish, sometimes raw/no finish.

[@ampdrum1]

Have you guys noticed the metal and hard rock guys using jazz type cymbals as a growing trend? K, Byzance, Masters, HHX, etc.

[@Reverie_Cymbals_Drums]

Yeah! It’s definitely getting more popular for those guys to be interested in the handmade stuff. We can make heavy cymbals that sound awesome pretty easily.

[@j.j.s.6736]

Can someone tell me what's that piece of iron is called the cymbal is getting hammered on?

[@Reverie_Cymbals_Drums]

It's the anvil!

[@j.j.s.6736]

@@Reverie_Cymbals_Drums Thank you. I'll look for one at a welding shop.

[@1.Ventura]

Does he heat the cymbal b4 hammering ??

[@Reverie_Cymbals_Drums]

nope! Everything I do is cold-forming.

[@1.Ventura]

@@Reverie_Cymbals_Drumsi had no idea you could hammer a cymbal cold! Whats that anvil like thing that you're hammering on?

[@tobiyarbrough5239]

I just bought a 19" Zildjian A Medium Thin crash (1980's era). Doesn't sound that great. A bit "gong-e". Actually, has a higher pitch than my 1980's medium thin 18". Wondering if I should hammer it, cut large holes like the ozones (did that to my 1980's Sabian fast china. made a huge difference) or smaller linear holes like the custom EFX or the trash crash. Just don't want to end up with something worse than what I've got.

[@Reverie_Cymbals_Drums]

It could be that it’s got a taller profile and it’s heavier which could cause that higher pitch and gongy-ness. I’d modify it with lathing and targeted hammering.

[@TheMrBobC]

The 1st came out nice, the 2nd should of stayed the way it was

[@TheMrBobC]

In my humble opinion

[@gertkristensen6451]

As old machinist,, you not marster a hammer , but the turning looks good

[@Reverie_Cymbals_Drums]

Well, I guess I should just practice more! haha