Extremely Dangerous Tool, Screw OSHA, Will it Run???? Antique Buzz Saw Rig

[@robertginther9248]

Definitely needs carb work & governor needs attention. Hope the price was right. That saw is much better at what it does than a modern chain saw. Good luck on restoring it to proper operation.

[@craigtate5930]

These old Wisconsin twins are my favorite old engines good to see another one back at life

[@alanm3438]

Wow, I have not seen a Wisconsin motor in 50 years; I think it was off a old hay bailer. You are so blessed to have mechanical and machinist skills.

[@nickwarner8158]

I used to live just north of Sand Creek and south of Chetek in the 90's. Place I was at heated with wood, and slabwood from the Amish sawmills was cheap. Guy had an old John Deere two cylinder tractor that didn't even have a starter, you manipulated the decompression lever and rolled the handwheel to fire it. Used the flat belt pully to drive a rig on the front that looked like it was created on a full moon after an unholy alliance with bad actors. Had about a 36" blade on it. We called it the wheel of death, and it was pretty good at turning a bundle of slabwood into pieces ready to feed the woodstove with. We're all still alive because we didn't have safety nannies, we used common sense and apparently natural selection deemed us worthy to survive operating it. I love that rig, get it dialed in and its going to be a great time saver.

[@TopperMachineLLC]

I grew up in Prairie Farm, not too far from Sand Creek. I've spent some time on those tractors. Usually you park them on top of the hill when you shut them down. I really believe we should remove safety labels and let natural selection happen. Common sense doesn't exist anymore. Sure accidents happen, but accidents build awareness. What some people call dangerous, I call functional. Guarding just renders things useless.

[@nickwarner8158]

@@TopperMachineLLC I 100% agree with that, and interesting coincidence my first wife was from Prairie Farm.

[@TopperMachineLLC]

@@nickwarner8158 PF is a small town, I probably know her. Although, I graduated HS in 2000 and haven't set foot in that inbred town since.

[@GardenTractorBoy]

That is a great saw. We have Wisconsin motors in a number of our tractors and other than carb issues they are great. It does sound like this motor is using the governor to keep running, a tweek of the mixture or a carb clean should sort it. We find that an ultrasonic cleaner does wonders to these old carbs. We always take the tin off motors that have not run in a while, it is not often we find a mice nest but it is surprising how much grass and debris gets sucked in

[@TopperMachineLLC]

I've cleaned the carb, and adjusted it. It almost sounds like it's cutting the ignition. Like switching it on and off. I will try chasing that out as soon as I get free time, but getting the firewood cut was priority. This thing sure beats a chainsaw. It's so much faster.

[@danielnmaryannyoder]

Well hello, Josh. I see you are in Wisconsin. I grew up 5 miles south of Tomah WI. We were amish and we had a 2 cylinder WI engine and a buzz saw to cut our firewood with. My dad bought a sawmill when I was 5 years old. We also had a small dairy farm. When I was 21 I built a bandsaw mill in my dad's shop and I also bought bandsaw blades from Menominee Saw & Supply.

[@bostedtap8399]

Nicely engineered machine, first time I've seen a two plug distributor cap (I've never worked on farm equipment). Clever forced air cooling. Thanks for sharing.

[@mikeking7470]

I like the work holding, I couldn't figure out how to hold the slabs until you got it into action. We had a couple of Wisconsin engines at my Dad's shop. And like you said, they will run forever. We had a big LePage stationary engine (not really big for a LePage but much bigger than most car engines) with the entire timing gear space full of dead blue bottle flies under the cover. That was as gross as mouse nests. I would have taken it outside to blow out the mouse "stuff".

[@joell439]

No OSHA protection on this one 😜😂. Cool that you were able to put it right to work

[@Ayerlooms]

Cool old rig

[@alanmitchell7322]

I used to operate a New Holland hay baler with a motor about the same as that model Wisconsin and it did many hours of work never missed a beat. always had regular services. Could be a bit hard to start when hot at times. Good luck with the saw bench and all your other projects. Thanks for all your video's they are always interesting I always look forward to them. Have a great New Year.

[@kaharry055]

Hello Josh, that saw and motor were in great condition for having been stored under cover but outdoors for an extended period. The engine seems to be just ‘hunting’ which isn’t that unusual and probably only needs some slight adjustment to the carby and governor. I doubt there is anything seriously wrong, in fact ‘hunting’ at lower engine speeds can be an indication of a good engine set up. If you want to reduce the time sharpening the saw you could fit it with a tungsten tip blade and then you will be able to really cut some firewood. I enjoy your varied content. Ken

[@GrandpasGarage1967]

I am always fascinated by these early instruments of death. Under ideal conditions, with a careful operator, they're only dangerous. In the woods, on the front of a John Deere B in the middle of winter, with slippery Icy footing, they were deadly. This one has way more guarding than any I have ever seen or used but I bet you see room for improvement.

[@JourneymanRandy]

Great motor. Rare around here but when I do see them they are pricey. I have a saw like that.

[@mrtomsr]

Excellent work improving your channel and this Tuesday’s content was very cool.

[@TopperMachineLLC]

Thank you. I'm really trying to step up my game. Some major improvements are coming.

[@swanvalleymachineshop]

Great wood saw . Cheers .

[@Bluesman57]

The way the engine is surging up and down leads me to believe the carburetor(s) need to be cleaned.

[@yt66228]

Nice machine. The hunting would drive me crazy.

[@TopperMachineLLC]

Yes it does. Will be sorting that out this spring

[@donanything6816]

Will you be cutting your crown molding with it?? Haha!! Great video. Thanks. W.C. Fields in one of his movies, "Stick around son after a while I'll take you out back and let you ride piggyback on a buzz saw" 👍👍👍

[@houstonmiller1229]

Adjust the governor?

[@bobmazzi7435]

I cut many a cord of stove wood on a saw like this. Except mine was powered off a John Deere MT with a flat belt about 20 feet long.

[@Farm_fab]

I have a 22" sawmill carbide tipped blade that would work on that saw.

[@dougsmith3960]

That's the first buzzsaw I've seen with the blade to the left. Every one I've ever used is to the right.

[@jpsimon206]

I thought this for years, small engine manufacturers and mousetrap manufacturers need to start working together. Here in the Pacific Northwest, there is apparently no more appealing home than behind the tins on small engines. I don't understand the appeal, no food, little water, only a windbreak for heat. What the hell do they want? What is so appealing about an engine? And why is it impossible for the engine manufacturers to make mesh for open areas?

[@TopperMachineLLC]

I'm still searching for how they got in. There isn't an opening big enough.

[@ValiRossi]

Sounds like a Bonneville.

[@jpsimon206]

Forgive me if you covered it in an earlier video, but what is that blue tractor/cushman thing that you towed the saw into your yard with?

[@jpsimon206]

Airplane tractor?

[@TopperMachineLLC]

That is my 1960s Clarktor Tug. It's an industrial tractor. Airplane tugs had duals. It's 110hp and does 25mph. I've done a small road trip on it. Lol

[@justtim9767]

That' a manly saw, you don't see many of them today.

[@d.michaelalderman313]

I have exact same setup for a buzzsaw Wisconsin THD mine runs steady it does not lope a like yours does is that normal for these engines

[@TopperMachineLLC]

No it's not. I need to go through the carb and governor. I just got it running in the video. Haven't done anything to it yet. Sure cuts good otherwise.

[@rustynail4676]

Do those engines always hunt like that?

[@TopperMachineLLC]

No, it should run smoother than a honda. I am not sure what is causing it yet. Governor, carb, or ignition. Need to get back on it and figure it out to cut firewood.

[@Farm_fab]

Mud dauber wasps are certainly not fun to be around. Fortunately for you, they moved out.

[@johndonlan5956]

Josh you might just have some old gasoline in there. That could be causing the surging of the motor.

[@TopperMachineLLC]

no chance of that. Cleaned the carb out and new lines, connected to a boat tank that runs my portable welder. I'm guessing it may be something in the ignition or governor. Dig into it this summer.

[@kelm3835]

i think you need to stop the engine from hunting