Better FEEL and CONTROL on the Kick Serve

[@humanashekhossain1364]

The best tennis lesson on kick serve available globally! Keep up the outstanding work!!!

[@topspintennis]

Glad you think so! Thanks so much for your comment! JF

[@ecpnegocios]

great coach, I have a tennis player son, we are using your videos to improve. Thank you,

[@topspintennis]

🔥Norlys, that is great to hear. Please continue to share his progress with me. I'm glad you find value in these videos. More to come! JF

[@salishvideo]

This is by far the best kick serve tutorial on KZbin ..

[@topspintennis]

Wow, those are kind words! Thank you for your comment and support! JF

[@DariusLapinskas-w8d]

Thank you, John!

[@topspintennis]

You bet, I’m glad you found the video beneficial! JF

[@sledopea689]

It's a great explanation how to get there. I watched a lot of serve videos and this is the best to study. Thank you, sir, for sharing your deep knowledge of tennis technic.

[@asukalangleysoryu382]

Just found this interesting exercises. Absolutely will try it. Thank you for easy explanation.

[@topspintennis]

Wonderful, I'm glad you thought the drills helped. JF

[@nickwarshaw3337]

Great video. Need to meet up one day.

[@topspintennis]

That would be cool! Thanks for your support! JF

[@miapapa1955]

Like the small steps that I see , using just the hand to the big step , the full serve. Well done. Thanks,

[@topspintennis]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks, JF

[@samuel.mcletcjie7312]

Short but very comprehensive.....Excellent on the progression

[@topspintennis]

Glad you liked it! Thanks for your comment and support! JF

[@lungchan1729]

I'm just curious is there a rule in tennis where the serve has to be toss? Like the ball has be struck without touching the hand? I guess there's rule for that right? Otherwise I might not toss and serve with my left hand holding the ball like the instructions

[@topspintennis]

You are not able to toss with the racquet unless you only have one arm or have an injury to your tossing arm. Great question! JF

[@sallyraynor8984]

This is a great lesson. Thank you

[@topspintennis]

Glad you liked it! Thanks for commenting Sally! JF

[@ramlibahroom6744]

A very informative video on the kick serve. I really like the detailed presentation of the various drills involved. Thank you very much sir for the video.

[@topspintennis]

Glad you enjoyed it! More videos to come in the future. Thanks for your comment and support! JF

[@jerome_morrow]

Outstanding kick serve instruction, thank you. Delivered with clarity and no annoying "buzzwords" to market the illusion of some sort of revolutionary teaching method. Very useful transitions clearly presented and easy to follow. As a surgeon who has to teach residents (similar challenges with any profession involving the teaching of technical skills), I do not underestimate the difficulty tennis coaches face in helping their students master the many varied techniques required for good tennis. Not everyone gets it easily and you have the exceptional capacity to deliver your instruction with clarity.

[@topspintennis]

Wow Jerome, thank you for your kind words! I've always thought that teaching pros have a tendency to "over teach" or make things to complicated. My whole premise of this channel to keep things simple and easy to understand. As a surgeon who teaches, you can understand this better than anyone. Thanks for your comment and support! JF

[@docpramod]

Great tutorials. the drills capture the essence of a kick serve. I will certainly do the drills and let you know.

[@topspintennis]

Awesome, thank you for your comment and support! JF

[@mikeparishy]

really good lesson,,thank you

[@topspintennis]

I’m glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for your support! JF

[@mishellgagnon5771]

Great tip for a kick serve. PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT!

[@topspintennis]

I'm glad you like the video! Thanks for watching and your support! JF

[@kkpln2855]

Excellent! Thank you 🙏

[@topspintennis]

You're most welcome! I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for your comment! JF

[@aidanck7291]

You kept the most import tip to till the end.........throwing the ball into the court. I spent so much time throwing it along the baseline only to have the opponent step in the take a big swing at my soft serve! Now practicing into the court, much improved!

[@stephen4763]

So watching other kick serve vids. They mention keeping the racquet on the same side and not crossing your body. Or if u do cross your body bring it up toward ur chest. Dipping your knees forward and opening your chest is just like other vids I have watched. Good drills ! More than other vids.

[@igorbobkov1323]

Nice drills and progression, coach! The only thing you need to put more focus on is finishing on the right side of the body on kick serve

[@topspintennis]

Noted! Thanks for your comment! JF

[@sallyraynor8984]

This great. Thank you

[@topspintennis]

You're very welcome! JF

[@peppio]

Really a great video..

[@topspintennis]

Glad you liked it, more videos to come! JF

[@Arefmshammoud]

Thank you ...Great explanation. Terrific. congratulations

[@topspintennis]

Glad you liked it! Thanks for your support! JF

[@user-jv9qz2bu1r]

nice instruction here coach - I subbed

[@topspintennis]

🔥Fantastic and thanks for your support! JF

[@calixtosouza3845]

Excellent! Im am brazilian, like tênis so much and consider very importante to have a good second service. With your lessons, I will. Thank you, Professor!

[@topspintennis]

My pleasure! Thanks for your comment! JF

[@williampguiry6603]

Great skills and drills to practice ireland 🇮🇪

[@topspintennis]

Thanks 👍 for watching and your support! I will announce on May 15 who the winner of the FREE shirt is. Thanks! JF

[@farafabdel5236]

Great tips Thanks

[@chantalelaforge7724]

Love the details and progression drills . Very easy to understand. Now I have to go and practice,reps,reps,reps.thks.

[@topspintennis]

Happy to help Chantale! More videos to come! JF

[@wuwuo]

Best lesson ever seen. After this video I was able to perform kick service. Now time to master it

[@topspintennis]

Wow, Wu I'm glad they helped. Keep me posted on your progress! JF

[@keithleong8444]

Love it, great explanation & tips John

[@topspintennis]

Glad you enjoyed them Keith! Enjoy your day! JF

[@rickyip7308]

very good demo.

[@topspintennis]

I'm glad you enjoyed it Ricky! JF

[@jimgodsey2940]

Outstanding progressive training steps and explanation of the kick serve!! Thank you!!

[@topspintennis]

Glad you liked it! More videos to come! JF

[@chabrew]

Progressions are very helpful

[@laurencecorray]

Remember you very well from Oscar Wegner's tapes. Brilliant tips.... to stay sideways and toss the ball into the court.

[@topspintennis]

Laurence, I'm glad you are enjoying the videos. Oscar and I filmed the 53 Drills for Better Tennis videos in 2008, great memory! JF

[@leo96119611]

Great tips.

[@topspintennis]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for your comment! JF

[@omarsultanov362]

Absolutely SUPEB and the BEST Kick serve (though here it's more about Topspin serve) exercises. Never ever seen anything as comprehensive as this vid. Many many thanks for this outstanding lesson 👍🙏✊🥳

[@topspintennis]

Wow, thanks for your comment Omar! I'm so glad you enjoyed the video....more to come! JF

[@Arefmshammoud]

could you explain on the flat serve. Great drills

[@topspintennis]

Yes I can; it's on my list of videos! Thanks for your suggestion! JF

[@brianchen6324]

good video! though this is not related to this video, may I know how you leaded up your racquet? thx

[@topspintennis]

Brian, my racquet weighs almost 13 ounces. It's heavy but I love the response I get when hitting. I have lead tape pretty all around the head and under my over grip as well. I may do a video on this in the future. Thanks for watching! JF

[@AppeltVortex]

Great lesson, thanks!

[@topspintennis]

My pleasure! JF

[@activitiesforfunbyyanachan2492]

Awesome! Well, how to receive on kick served ?

[@topspintennis]

That definitely could be a future video. Thanks for your suggestion! JF

[@RF20TB12]

Thanks John. When you do the serve at the end the sound is different from 10:42. Is it because less brush? When I watch Federer live, his second serve clearly sounds different from first serve. But his second serve still have speed

[@topspintennis]

Yes, I am definitely taking less of the ball, making a different noise. Federer does the same but due to his exceptional strength and great technique he is able to get good spin and speed. Great observation. Thanks, JF

[@flani66]

Great tips - thanks

[@mikethewheelchairguy]

Thank you for posting. Love your club! Amazing lighting! I need to find a tennis facility like that. It’s always nice to try and learn something new. Would the toss out front be the same? I wonder if you didn’t hit the ball how far into the court it would land?

[@topspintennis]

The toss is definitely still out in front but not as far as it would be with a first serve. You need to get it out into the court but not too far where you are not able to get "under" the ball hit up on it. I hope this helps! JF

[@mikethewheelchairguy]

@@topspintennis Thank you! I appreciate you and your willingness to share.

[@augustblood6810]

I love this lesson. So inspirational and good drills. I need a kick serve for my second serve and it looks effective as a first serve too!

[@topspintennis]

Great to hear! Thanks for your support! JF

[@eyeofhorus1301]

+August Blood A very nice kick serve would make a great first serve until high levels of play no doubt

[@EdmonBegoli]

I also hope you could develop similar videos for flat and slice serves. This is a top notch material.

[@topspintennis]

Edmond, consider it done. I will create video this week on the SLICE SERVE and drills to help improve FEEL and CONTROL. Thanks! JF

[@kinzaarslan1898]

Best video cool and calm

[@topspintennis]

I'm glad you liked it. More videos to come!

[@victorliendo2010]

Great explanation, from the basics to the actual motion, awesome drills

[@topspintennis]

Glad you liked it! More videos to come. I want to do a video on the slice serve next. Thanks! JF

[@shawnhuang2277]

good tips

[@topspintennis]

I’m glad you enjoyed them, hopefully they can help your game! JF

[@carlosbedoya1954]

Excellent progressive drills for feel and how to hit up by lifting and not pushing the ball and then translate that to full speed and kinetic chain. Not easy to do...I tend to hit out rather than up. A good picture for me was the camera in front of you..it showed better how the body looks and moves.

[@peteryun8929]

Maybe it’s the camera angle. My coach put a bench vertically on the baseline and make sure my kick serve go up about 5 ft when it hit the bench. Otherwise it’s just a regular topspin serve.

[@topspintennis]

That's a great drill. Thanks for sharing Peter! JF

[@vladimirvidov6202]

Thank you very much very logical very professional и love all living things game very very much

[@AppeltVortex]

12:50 super important, thanks again!

[@topspintennis]

I'm glad you like it! JF

[@jannosmal5708]

interesting that you would teach kick serve on the deuce side.

[@topspintennis]

It's probably easier to do on the ad side but who wants easy:) Thanks for your comment! JF

[@jerome_morrow]

We need to have a kicker down the middle , or a body serve aimed for the opponent’s left shoulder from deuce court. May as well learn from deuce side. Promotes better trunk and shoulder rotation, too.

[@jontysolomons8475]

Really enjoyed this, liked your teaching style and some nice progressions. We'll discuss this one today in the Tennis Coaches Support Network on Facebook if that's ok with you.

[@topspintennis]

I'm glad you like the video! Yes absolutely, thanks for sharing the video! JF

[@poida007]

Good progressions John, for advanced players, junior and adult 4.5 and above playing 4-5 times a week with 2-3 hour training and playing sessions. For 4.0 and below rec players, 95% of tennis players playing for an hour 1-2X a week for an hour or so, developing a kick serve is unrealistic and a sure way to get them to move to pickleball LOL. Most rec players have an Eastern FH grip and struggle to produce a decent toss. A video on serve basics would be helpful, and then learning a slice serve. Even top WTA pros struggle with a kick serve because they lack racket head speed and location consistency and a weak kick gets crushed even at women’s college level let alone pro level.

[@topspintennis]

Great point. I agree a BASIC video would be good....maybe showing the transition from the eastern to continental grip and the adjustments necessary to has success with the continental grip. Great stuff! Sorry I didn't respond back to your Pickleball suggestion. I may begin to create Pickleball videos. I like the game and feel their is potential there as well. I hope all is well in Canada! JF

[@poida007]

@@topspintennis Look forward to your basic serve video and your dive into pickleball. Be sure to include toss instruction and progressions on the serve basics video. It's pretty darn frigid in the great White North.

[@kabasakalis]

At 12:19 when you are doing a full blown kick serve from the deuce side down the T , shouldn't the ball kick to the right? I don't see that, looks like more like a slice serve to me.

[@topspintennis]

The ball should go to the right. I obviously need to work on my kick serve:) Thanks for your comment and support! JF

[@christopherbakriges6559]

terrific...

[@topspintennis]

I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for your support! JF

[@ruipedro4195]

Hi John, do you know of some exercises to improve my quickness and also my coordination and focus between my eyes and hand? I saw a player, in an ATP tournament, do these exercises with a coach, before going on the court. He only used a tennis ball. I think they were warming up. Do you have a video about it?

[@jamesjin7485]

If you are asking about serves, I recommend shadow tossing the ball during warmups. On kick servers, throw it above or behind your head, and on flat servers throw the ball up to the right.

[@topspintennis]

For quickness I like jumping rope....hands down one of the best exercises for quickness. I like James Jin's comment on shadow tossing. I don't understand your question on the exercises the player was doing before his match. Please elaborate. Thanks! JF

[@ruipedro4195]

@@topspintennis I think this is better: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnnOkJh7oKhmhLs

[@griftamusic317]

You’ve got that perfect Federer backswing

[@dg2973]

I Like it, good progresion drills.

[@topspintennis]

My pleasure, I'm glad you enjoyed them. More videos to come! JF

[@briansidney6844]

I liked the video, but I think there is one aspect that was not broached which was foot position/stance. I see in the video at the end that shows Fed's kick serve. His left foot is parallel to the baseline which when he tosses the ball along the baseline, this allows him to keep his chest facing the fence. This allows him to serve out wide on the AD side with a wicked kick. That is what I need to practice and probably a lot of other people too. In your other video, "Federer Kick Serve | Master Class" it shows the same clip as at the end of this video; however, do you have any footage of Federer serving out wide to the Deuce side that shows his stance/foot position? Prior to both videos, I realize that I was practicing incorrectly.

[@topspintennis]

Brian, I like your comment about foot position on kick serves on the ad side versus the deuce side. Let me look into this. This could be a great video discussing foot position on kick serves. Thanks for your comment! JF

[@hussTennis]

Thanks John, interesting approach with very simple educational methods 😉

[@topspintennis]

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it! JF

[@EdmonBegoli]

Excellent video! Just discovered this channel so I am going to really dig into it. One question - how do you control the kick serve not to be too loopy and slow or to not flatten it out either. Yours very nice - fast, and not too loopy. Is that still a matter of racquet head speed?

[@topspintennis]

Welcome aboard! You initially do have to begin more slowly with your racquet head speed which forces you to open the racquet face slightly in order to make the ball go over the net. But as you gain control and feel at lower speeds you can begin to up your speed and begin closing your racquet face. It's the Ying and the Yang with the Kick Serve. I hope this helps! JF

[@dmitryprivate6558]

Thank you for the video. Very good. My personal problem (and I know it is me :) is that, sometimes, if I don't drop the racket behind my back deep enough, I have less distance for the racket to brush against the ball. As a result I tend to hit a hybrid of flat and kick server and the ball goes too far :(. Being aware of the problem is the first step in resolving it :)

[@topspintennis]

It's great that you are aware of the issue. Have tried relaxing your grip and starting with the power position? Thanks for your comment! JF

[@dmitryprivate6558]

Topspin Tennis Good point. I should relax my arm more. I will do it. Thank you, John.

[@maxpowers3732]

I never know quite how far in front or how high to toss the ball for my kick serve. I think I'm tossing too far in front and then have to open up too soon in order to reach the ball. Is there a way to develop a good feel for whether you have a good toss or not?

[@Osnosis]

Yes: take an hour and first, hit the ball as straight up & high as possible. Then, practice an arc that lands the ball just beyond the net. Lastly, slowly add power by thinking about hitting the far baseline. This will engrain the right position in your ‘mind’s eye’.

[@frankg846]

Yes I noticed you choking up the raquet, is that how yourself choke up when you serve in a game with all other types of serves and do you teach all your students to always choke up even with flat and slice serve?

[@topspintennis]

I don't play that way but I use it a lot when I need control. I will recommend it for my students as well. Thanks! JF

[@Better_Call_Raul]

With that net divider drill, it practically forces you to toss towards 12 o'clock. If you toss too much to the right, there is no way to arc it over the divider. Is that the idea? And that ball arc path over the divider is pretty similar to the ball arc path in a real serve, correct?

[@topspintennis]

Raul, you are correct. You can't "LIFT" the ball as well if the ball toss and contact are at 1 o'clock. Thanks for your comment! JF

[@ron2117]

Great video, where are you located?

[@topspintennis]

Ron, I live in Wisconsin! JF

[@praveenr7136]

Good video with lot of content. Would be top vid if you edit it make it more concise.

[@topspintennis]

I'm glad you like the video! Thanks for watching and your support! JF

[@miami3613]

nice comprehensive video on the kick serve. I think on your own kick serve toward the end you are opening up too soon.

[@topspintennis]

Glad you liked it! I agree with you, I played tennis last night and kept my shoulders and hips closed to the contact longer and felt as if I got more spin and kick. Good work! JF

[@camlendrim7609]

This gentleman looks like a young Joe Pesci. Great tips. Thnx

[@topspintennis]

Wow, thanks! I'm a bit taller than Joe:) JF

[@michalnawalany3594]

Same reflection😂. Maybe a bit more cousin Vinny on the next lesson coach. Great tips. Thx

[@tttvn123]

10:33 10:57 12:16 13:43

[@capricornmagic63]

At least his serving from the Deuce court. Most of the so called experts are demonstrating from the Ad court which is the easier court to serve the kicker from. However in my opinion this isn't a true kick server as it doesn't break away from the receiver. It seems to go directly to the receiver with good topspin but it doesn't move away. The other thing is serving from the far court towards the camera would give a better view of what the receiver sees after the ball makes contact with the court. Just my opinion

[@topspintennis]

🔥I completely agree with you on your comment, the intent was the kick but the ball does not kick enough. If I do another video in the future I will make sure to make it KICK!!! Thanks for your comment! JF

[@germancastillo3896]

That was.anice setve

[@topspintennis]

Thank you. I have spent hundreds of hours on it. Trust me, practice pays off! Thanks for your comment! JF

[@absolutelynothingtoseehere]

You did a good job constructing the kick serve, but there's one thing you skipped that could help. It's not clear where in relation to your body you're striking the ball and what the racquet orientation is at that point. It's all a blur when you're doing it.

[@congphi3757]

❤

[@topspintennis]

I’m glad you enjoyed it, thanks for your support! JF

[@talesara74]

Allow me to ask why are you not sideways more

[@topspintennis]

Are you referring to my shoulders and hips? If so I don't like to over rotate the hips and shoulders, that can cause timing and power issues. JF

[@goodeddie9315]

Why does my shoulder hurt when I stay sideways and stretch my arm over my head?

[@topspintennis]

You are not opening your shoulders up enough or you are not pronating enough. Are you trying to keep your shoulders closed, not opening to the court? JF

[@dejpsyd0421]

I’m a visual learner…just hit 30 kick serves in a row non stop so I/we can watch it and commit it to memory! (You can use subtitles if you’d like to emphasize certain things) (I’ll be waiting for this video…and I promise I’ll subscribe, like and tell ALL my friends to watch you! 😃) HURRY, I play on Monday! EDIT; ohh, you can use slow mo too! But 30 non stop…PLZZZZZ

[@topspintennis]

I won’t get to this for a couple of weeks. More to come! JF

[@rogerwilco4257]

Foot fault! :D

[@topspintennis]

🔥Great observation, I need to work on that! JF

[@airbender9593]

$

[@topspintennis]

I'm glad you liked it! Thanks for your comment! JF

[@dejpsyd0421]

Where’s your dampener…that “twang” sound weirds me out 😜

[@topspintennis]

I don't use dampeners....sorry for the twang. 😂JF

[@dejpsyd0421]

@@topspintennis lol

[@JamesDavisakaRemguy]

Oooo, nasty pause at your trophy pose. KZbin has some really good tennis channels, I can recommend some 😘

[@topspintennis]

James, I'd be interested in you sharing them. There is not a pause on my trophy pose, only a slight slow down. I do appreciate your comment! JF

[@jerome_morrow]

There’s no pause. His motion is continuous and there is no break in the kinetic chain. Some players have a more gradual transition (loading) phase from backswing to throughswing leading to an apparent pause in the racquet head. Watch the lower body and it’s clear there’s no pause. Slow motion video evidences that the best servers are all slow at the top (transition phase) relative to their overall tempo. The tour pros are just much quicker in overall tempo, so we don’t see this. But slow motion analysis shows it’s there. If I was to hazard to guess, I'd say the reason for the slower transition phase in John's serve is that he arrives at the top of the backswing with more weight on the back foot than is typical. This means a little more time needed to get the weight shift forward, hence the longer transition phase. The quality of the serve remains evident.

[@CascioMusicProduction]

Great stuff but I d watch the ball until I hit it , i think you re moving ur head away too soon, this will affect the shot

[@topspintennis]

I'm glad you like the video! Thanks for watching and your support! JF

[@guidodelgiudice5]

Comment below

[@andrewbaroch2141]

The toughest is from the parking lot.

[@topspintennis]

Andrew, I need to try that one:)!

[@GershonBenYitzhak]

Speed is low hanging fruit. I feel like everyone knows you have to swing fast. This is pretty obvious.

[@topspintennis]

Daniel, it's counter intuitive though. A lot of people know they have to accelerate but many don't, especially on big points. Thanks for your comment! JF

[@strongbrain3128]

Sorry, you are not teaching KICK serves, you are teaching just the TOP SPIN serves. There is no kick in all your serves.

[@topspintennis]

No problem. I agree with you; there could be more KICK on these serves. I could have hit up on the inside of the ball more on these shots. Don't ever be sorry for leaving a comment and speaking your mind; that's what this channel is for. I can always improve my teaching. JF

[@transdata3035]

Excellent lesson. Thanks

[@topspintennis]

I'm glad you enjoyed the video, more videos to come! JF

[@pawnjumper6980]

Great explanation and information

[@topspintennis]

Glad you liked it! More videos to come. My next progression video will be on the slice serve. Thanks for your comment! JF