TOPWAR: How “SPICY” does Rivergame cook | Hero Special Skill RECYCLING TOOL

[@william957]

I’ve got 20 heroes with LvL 7 ES (not including any of the free or junk ones) and decided to stop raising every new meta hero to ES-7 when it came out when RG stated they would stop releasing heroes rapid fire with an ES-5 that was stronger than it’s predecessor’s ES-7. They lied about that and now we find out they aren’t going to allow us to recycle old ES shards? I’m fine with offering newer servers deals on items and heroes we all got them when we started. But we NEVER saw anything like this where almost all current meta heroes were available to purchase their ES-5 for $25. I’m just about done. And thanks for all you do Timmy. You are an amazing part of this community.

[@mohamedasaad9216]

This is literally not about new or old servers it is all about china vs all the world now. Looking to the trucks finding 99% of the chinese players with 300+ march size 600+ dmg+ and dmg- with full sets of special effects !! This is ridiculous and excuse me chinese people are not billionaires to reach this level in less than 1 year with accounts in servers like 3041 specially if we see chen is equal to Ancro now !! And why they do not appear in the maps they are hiding their accounts away from us?? It takes years and tons of money to build a strong account and river games take our money and give it to chinese servers to build away stronger servers than the old servers !! Now there is no way to fix this and the only way I see is to isolate these servers like they did on maps and treats like a completely different game. There is no way to compare the chinese servers with any other servers in the old world map. It is ridiculous to see 770, 779, 2216 and 1508 lose against 3041. Sorry for the long comment but it is very annoying 🤬

[@Agent-000-0]

Whale are the only ones driving safely. This goes for both sides. So after some time, every normal player is defeated and only whales are left. This is a horrible and very poorly designed game mechanic. Chinese servers were seperated from the rest for 4.5 years. Nothing is hidden. They just combined us for this ranked match / masters event. Probably because player numbers are going down. An people can transfer there as well. So an account on a young server can be old as well.

[@t-me8295]

Oh no no no , Mohamed , the video dedicated to the Chinese servers is COMING . 😂😂

[@t-me8295]

Absolutely buddy

[@ukaszfilim6883]

@@t-me8295 can't wait to see :)

[@Human-lu2ut]

Thank T-me. Absolutely brilliant work highlighting this. ❤

[@t-me8295]

Thank you Human ♥️

[@gsamuel2267]

That’s hilarious if not saddening, but looking at the trucks heist interception reports where they are all Christmas trees in the titan gears with runes… it’s no surprise there’s several tiers of players and we’re the cash cows, or being treated like so…

[@t-me8295]

Dear SAM…I have a SPECIAL episode for that one …and if you think this episode was hilarious…you haven’t saw anything yet 😂😂

[@derrickmusisi6089]

At this point im done spending on this game.......they just won't do anything right! Newer & Asian servers are getting more for less

[@akshaybollam3760]

No buddy asian servers don't get more from less only china gets from Asian servers....

[@derrickmusisi6089]

@@akshaybollam3760 yeah

[@t-me8295]

Yes Derrick. And I will explain that also. But like Askhay said …just the Chinese servers

[@thiesWfYa]

This is absolutely ridiculous we are getting scammed as loyal older customers of their game 25$ vs 180$💀

[@t-me8295]

Yes. It can be seen from this perspective also

[@GarudaTopwar]

Good point ☝️

[@juancarlosdealba6975]

Awesome job Timmy !!

[@michelyanickesparon2954]

Thanks for the heroes clarification and your time and energy to make that Video. Kets put up some key points. 1. Yes they soend less fir Exclusive skills, 2. Better TG 3. Better HT chips 4. Super and Bigger march Size 5. Better stats. I saw a comment saying yes they existed and they also can transfer to younger servers, i agree. But lets answer this question here 👇 Ilder spending players definitely have their Suppressions Complete because that was crucial for a strong account. If you notice a lot of those olayers doesn't have full Suppression. Tell me now are they old players. In my understanding New players doesn't concentrate on Suppression like we did, they concentrate on TG and HT. Like a lot have mentioned, Top war will not get any penny with me, plus im not creating a new account on a new server. Because guess what, when newer server will be created again, new things will be added and the same 💩 will keep repeating

[@JanaMFleming]

I made an alt on 3636. 3 weeks from server creation we had TA. Guess what! I got Pantheon and i didnt play more than an hour a day. When it was over we got heavy troopers and formations. Everything is accelerated on newer servers.

[@t-me8295]

Yes Jana , absolutely

[@ukaszfilim6883]

Thanks Timmy for very valuable informations, another words old players are being threat very badly in comparision to new players, that is very sad... I guess Rivergame don't need old player to keep playing the game...

[@t-me8295]

1. They do want us to keep playing …it’s this behavior which reflects the skills of their employees..they don’t know better . 2. It was always like that in the past …and I remember someone at RG saying (honestly don’t remember who) that this will change in the future…that was last year in July . And look where we are now …not necessarily in a different position

[@yzermanik1]

​@@t-me8295after a moment I think they should simply give us the same prices, why would we stop on recycling tool... by such actions even low spenders like me will will do one thing 0 spending, less playing, look at the 300+ marches on trucks, I play 3y and 6 month and I was happy from 203, but when I see this happening what is the point to keep going?:)

[@ukaszfilim6883]

@@t-me8295 I am not sure to be honest when I see what they've done, in my opinion we should get the same prices as new players and on top of that recycling tool as it may be needed in the future, to be honest most of my server when saw this will NOT spend a penny before we get the prices like new players , they also consider stop playing becuase when they see 300+ marches on trucks and we play 3y and few months not been able to get there with reasonable price....

[@Nemesis.114]

Woow.. This vedio fully of buff I think t-me used Dragon skin to increase attack.. 😅😁 I agree with you.. Waiting for the next episode

[@t-me8295]

Thank you nemesis. I have NOT used the dragon skin …I left the skin aside and just USED THE DRAGON 😂😂😂

[@Nick1502-d6y]

wow this will make so many more people quit the game. Where is customer loyalty! It like Rive game are trying to make people quit the game

[@thomashatvani415]

it's utterly outrageous

[@t-me8295]

Nope Nick …that’s the scary part ..they do NOT want players to quit ..this reflects the capabilities, skills of their employees. Or simpler said : they don’t know better

[@t-me8295]

I’m planning the next episode which will shock players even more . I’m just the messenger…putting everything on the table

[@danielchartrand4310]

I hope that River game is watching this and get their shit together!!!! This is so incredibly unfair!!!!!

[@jezward7896]

totally on point TME

[@t-me8295]

Absolutely. And I have more to say in the next episode 😉

[@jezward7896]

@@t-me8295 keep up the good work mist of my alliance watch and rely on your insights and opinions

[@rhapsode90]

Not to mention the "not so young" servers which have their first transfer periods right now. They have to pay the same prices for exclusive skills, with heroes like Bryn, Zhen and Mapelyn outdated within months, but not having the stats of the players of older servers at the same time, so they will easily lose against them even if they use better heroes. The competition doesnt make sense at all and this is especially because of the crappy CP system.

[@Nukericbm]

I can't complain about the rune drop rate most of the time. I've had really great luck compared to many people in my server. It is expensive, though. So if china gets them for a lot cheaper, it is unfair. Refining is what make me most upset. I could refine two marches with current inventory, but they rarely go to the right slot. I've complained to my cs a lot. They really need to improve that and level the playing field with the china servers and allow exclusive recycling.

[@matthewconnors6434]

One thing I didn’t realize is how fast I’d become an older player

[@paulillingworth7142]

Looking at the march sizes on trucks on newish accounts i guess these are discounted also, so many tails i here of quitting on a daily basis, too many dull tasks, unbalanced fights once a week...

[@t-me8295]

Deal Paul , I will address this in the next episode

[@paulillingworth7142]

@@t-me8295 thanks t-me also on a other idea why have all the battles at the weekend, this is family time, leads to low attendance and engagement overall with the actual fun of the game which is to fight?

[@laplongejunior]

Because they don't want people with a familly. They want people who can afford to lose time and money in the game for nothing in return.

[@isantaiii5904]

at least this original idea must have been picked up from the state of the survival list, where there have been röstöt of trucks for a little longer than in topwar. Werry good Job💪🏻

[@isantaiii5904]

Truck robberies, translation error

[@t-me8295]

Yes. Absolutely

[@t-me8295]

No worries my dear

[@jesustheripper66]

Can we do a class action lawsuit hahaha

[@milwarch]

You became a TW hater 😂 I love your honest comments. Straight to the point 🤣 Old players doesn't matter for developers. They're trying to tell us, that we should delete our accounts and start the game from the beginning 🤣🤣🤣

[@MaciejZachaj]

Maybe they will better understand „ you can’t eat cake and have it” I still don’t know why we we keep spending to the developer that don’t care about community

[@t-me8295]

Easy. I will tell you why …when players start a movement..and max 2-5-10k come to support (for free ) …while the devs see 300-600.000 logins per week , can you blame the devs for NOT taking this issues extremely serious?

[@Gökaytekin26]

customer service says you have to have both tokens and if you calculate it that way they sell it at the same price as the titanium coin store

[@poiik2682]

Hi T-me, Thank you for confirming my suspicion. I wrote a mesg the other day to them and ask them why do they sell off decors and heros at a 1/4 of the price that we are paying. The asked me for screen shots. I just did them one better send them your vid let see what they say. That is what you call discrimination. Wonder if one can open a lawsuit?

[@laplongejunior]

Yes it is discrimination. But I don't know of any country with a law against discrimination pricing, especially when the customer can stop using the service at any time. Illegal discrimination is usally on things the customer has no control of, loyality to the service is fair game.

[@officialboss3448]

Zero spending in this game...now I'm relax 😌 😎

[@t-me8295]

Ye

[@dazzlingone1974]

Geez. And a lot of new people don't understand the disparity.

[@t-me8295]

True

[@sazaria80]

that orange cat shaking its booty though...lol...topwar dev cannot have all the cakes in the world, they may lose it all...

[@t-me8295]

Ye. Absolutely

[@thomashatvani415]

Can you transfer old accounts on to the newer servers to take advantage of those cheaper items? Or is it related to the age of the account rather than the age of the server? Surely this differentiated pricing is at odds with the apple and google stores from where you buy download the game?

[@t-me8295]

Nope. You can not transfer on those servers

[@jeremyj3rk]

it is shocking, they lost the contact with the reality. and we are going deeper and deeper in to the bottomless ocean of the bad decisions.

[@t-me8295]

Don’t worry Jeremy. Earth ain’t that far away from them 😂😂

[@FabioDullius]

Rivergame has really tried hard to make players give up on the game.

[@abdullahgamer770]

Are there other episodes of Is this a genre I like?

[@t-me8295]

If this episode shocked you …then please do NOT watch the next one . The sad truth 😂. But everything must be put on the table and basically just watch the video with the volume at zero (don’t have to hear my POV) …the screenshots speak for themselves

[@abdullahgamer770]

@@t-me8295 Don't worry, I knew these things 5 months ago and there is a lot more after that

[@josephflores9624]

Can the new servers get hero EX 7 with this heavy discount?

[@1brokkolibaum]

Lets make a video about the great yet not reworked refugee camps. 😊😂

[@KLF2323]

Man that is infuriating, If I could convert old ex7 heros skill shard at 60% for the price of a ex5 hero I would do it. If not might be time to say goodbye. We need Lancaster Navy and Army equivalents until they get this sorted out

[@KLF2323]

So $225 for ex7

[@t-me8295]

Nope. Cause it’s limited to 81 x lvl 1 …which is a lvl 5 ..and that’s for 7 days time ..but maybe it comes back . No sure . Still …180$ we pay vs 25$ on new servers ..and with all due respect..you saw on which heroes ; Brady , abad, Layla , stromoy , etc there are no better heroes in game right now for those positions

[@KLF2323]

Crazy

[@richardnguyen7946]

Thanks for bring the truth. I decided to quit the game

[@t-me8295]

Thank you Rich . I will speak for myself: sure I am thinking of quitting at least 2-3 times per week (even with this KZbin channel) and sure , it’s a valid option… an easy one . But I chosen to stay …help players ..and maybe ..one day …enough players understand how important is to support someone like me ..so we can push this game to a BETTER experience..NOT just for us ..but for RG also . As when players are happy …the producing company is happy too…trust me (revenue wise). Sit back , relax and follow the possible reactions , changes from RG . You only need popcorn

[@marwanalkhayat8600]

I saw this game add a lot of things, but all of them are attached with money day after day. Your spending is coming more and more because of that, so many players stop to play this game or stop spending one cent more . For example, if you don't spend money, it's impossible to get base skin, and it's impossible to have 600 tickets only because you are not spending the same for anything else they need to stop to become greed this match and try to make balance.

[@franckd4284]

Is it even legal to split custumers like this. Refound the money you stole to me 😎

[@billyj9168]

class action lawsuit might be in our future.

[@t-me8295]

Sadly …a lot of unfair things are still LEGAL . But , at the end of the day , we must admit to ourselves..that WE , the players , allow this companies (not JUST RG) to behave like this . Cause we are incapable to organize ourselves

[@t-me8295]

It’s something which we can dream at nights …it’s far more complex than that . As they are “using” legal loopholes

[@laplongejunior]

They unlock at Terra Aurora? So by the time they end New World... those heroes will be outdated right? So old payers are paying 180 to get UPDATED skills, right?

[@tanakakto]

Well...That does it I guess. I am 60M CP with latest heroes and I cannot beat a truck 35M CP.... What is the point of spend currency to try to win?

[@sodopianos1412]

Thank you for EXPOSING river game for the harm they are causing the older loyal players. They don’t deserve us.

[@t-me8295]

I wish I could say the next video won’t shock you …but …if this video shocked you …don’t watch the next one coming 😂

[@sodopianos1412]

@@t-me8295 I love this kind of dirt 😁

[@LightningFastNews]

in s3619 i got 75 Quily shards for 20k gems, 10x spins all

[@t-me8295]

I’m honestly not sure about that . I never investigated it . It’s possible or it’s just pure luck . No sure

[@donaldneo4317]

$25 for ES5 means only $225 for ES7?

[@andre0000000007]

compensate us the same tokens for heroes already levelled up and let us use them on heroes we don't have.

[@t-me8295]

Yes. It’s a start

[@PJ4U]

I have played this game so long and dont have the time, energy and money to start another game. But I wont spend hereafter. I am sure others feel the same way. Wish I had quit earlier, I would have had the money to buy an house. Seeing all 300+ march size from the new servers just is demoralizing for old players. Even whales will start becoming small before the new server players soon. I wish it happens sooner. I havent seen such a poorly run company. If I was the shareholder and saw what they are doing, I would sell all my shares.

[@t-me8295]

Absolutely. And as sad as it sounds, it’s our fault , we the players allow this to happen…cause we can’t get more then 10k people to join for a better game (out of 300-600.000 logins per week) . I absolutely agree with you and that’s exactly what I’m doing also …lowered my expectations and spending . Without this KZbin channel I would definitely spend EXTREMELY less , but I buy this items to test and hope to help players

[@PJ4U]

@@t-me8295 I agree. You have spent a lot for this channel. Maybe you should move on to another game. I am sure you will find another game with better devs. There is a 100% chance.

[@Agent-000-0]

Some time back, these younger servers only got horrible heroes, like Akatora. But since these heroes are useless and you cannot win anything with these, a lot of people probably complained or stopped playing. So they get these current heroes now.

[@t-me8295]

No no …they get Brady , abad , nelle , Layla , stromoy , etc

[@michaelwu6824]

i'm sorry to say but this is infuriating - Players have spent how much up until now and they reward new players and they say - screw the old players.... Not cool River Games. Not cool

[@t-me8295]

Absolutely. That’s why is so important to put all this things on the table

[@martinkesselaar9522]

To be fair to ourselves, we allow rhem to do this. We conplain but why do we still buy the shitty stuff for way to high prices? All, stop spending!! Then they have to move or it's time for us to move away from rhis game and company. Let's be honest, why you want to pay 180,- for a skill. It's redicilous

[@thomashatvani415]

Exactly. It's got to be a hardcore spending boycott.

[@BuddyBanchuk]

Where you guys been? lol I only spend $3 on decor bottles for the wish event when the double coupons are out so I can get 18 total chances, plus the Anpu Altar chance box. Unless anything has value like that its not worth it.

[@zac80085]

What in the absolute F! I almost wish I didn't see this video...lol. Wow...that's ridiculous that old players are spending 8x more for the same thing. 🙄 Top Wallet is making it easy to spend little to nothing.

[@Steve-ly8tn]

Note, cant make alts on some of these servers that we are fighting and cant see them. But they can kick our ass, i bet they can see us or make alts on our servers. again, nothing to see here.

[@TheArhanghelu]

now I understand why a 34 mil player from a 3400 or something server beat my whole server.....because they and the Chinese have lower prices

[@t-me8295]

Trust me , you still haven’t saw the whole picture…but you will …very soon

[@muhammadadam1510]

That’s why younger acc can easily burn old acc

[@t-me8295]

Not just cause of that

[@verosiki]

this is disappointing. new player gets so many runes with 10 crafts while I get like 3 out of 60. I am kinda toasted and not spending anymore. just stay MM and throw Mucus.

[@t-me8295]

Absolutely

[@Abhinavwl8cx]

I think we need to realize we can only vote with out wallets....stop spending, theres better games out there.

[@Steve-ly8tn]

You tell us older players to sit down at the beginning as if we would be surprised that were being ripped off. If i could get lvl five exclusives on the tope heroes for 25$ I would have level sevens on all of my branches too. Rivergame continues to fk us over, no surprise there. Sells half of us the same product for 100$ theyd sell others for1$. Idk if rivergame understands this but its called unbalancing the game aka rigging the game. ffs. Its unsustainable, cause the newer players will be having the same gripes as us one day, just give it time.

[@t-me8295]

Dear Steve ..that’s one solid issue and needs to be addressed…but independent from this : The game must be design in such a way in which can offer a MINIMUM positive gaming experience for everyone ( REGARDLESS if you spend OR NOT ) Or the short version : MATCH MAKING

[@TheArhanghelu]

should we delete our accounts and start over? with 5k euros I would make an account 3 times stronger

[@farshid070]

Are you out of your mind. You should delete and never look back. Soon there will be newer accounts and your new account will be an old one. 😂

[@t-me8295]

NO…OFC NOT …we should push towards a fair game for all of us . Bottom line is ..RHIS IS OUR FAULT…we allow this to happen. Cause we can’t organize ourself to a certain amount of players to have a serious discussion with RG .

[@t-me8295]

Absolutely

[@ZheZhao-kg9lt]

​@@farshid070 back when my server was new this was nowhere close to true

[@КолесовОлег-щ6п]

So what next?) they don’t listen. If top 100 players stop spending money and tell to support team, maybe it would work better

[@rhodimusrime6737]

Those player are like heroin addicts They can’t stop spending money on the game And the devs know it

[@t-me8295]

First step is done (not quite done yet ) …to put everything on the table. Then we see ..cause as NOTORIOUSLY Rivergame is at this …that’s EXACTLY how NOTORIOUSLY our community is when it comes to supporting 😂

[@Streakz2k]

@@t-me8295can’t wait to see part 2. And I bish at them and they actually told me not to believe unofficial content 🤦‍♂️

[@jrbaylonertsss315]

TOPWAR The game that will destroy you both mentally and physically, well of course your money yet we still play it 🤷🤦

[@lol_7013]

What I can say is that more and more older players would either 1. leave to a server with younger accounts to have fun or 2. actually start a new account or 3. stop with the game. Number 2 is actually not an option, because if you just stop and think for 20 seconds you would know you would be in the same boat in 1 or 2 years again. what the people are seeing also is another version of topwar where the people can get a march size of 300 for 5k usd, which is vip 10 in topwar if my maths are not off by much 😱😱

[@heydamatz3210]

25$? dann aber für alle, ansonsten texte ich den Support voll 😐

[@t-me8295]

Klar

[@billyj9168]

Good luck selling your accounts now as well.

[@t-me8295]

In all my gaming time , I have never sold nor bought accounts . But that’s just me

[@samuelniggli9371]

Eine Frechheit!

[@t-me8295]

Absolute