TOPWAR: Let’s BREAK the COMBAT FORMULA apart. Please WATCH TILL THE END & Pay Attention

[@t-me8295]

HUGE THANKS to: Haarf for the excellent revers engendering the combat formula AND To Maymi …for the support …spreadsheet… Check out more on Maymi’s discord ….it’s worth to have a look: discord.gg/maymi

[@t-me8295]

Base ATK x ( 1 + (type mastery ATK + Equip ATK + Comp ATK + HERO BOND ATK) + (HERO WAR x 1.3) + all other ATK) x (1+ DMG) x ( 1 + HERO ATK) x crit multip x Stack Size / (1 + DMG decrease) / (1 + Suppression) / ( 1 + DMG debuff) x ( 1 - Indestructible)

[@HarimotoSatoshi]

Great formula! Where is the hero DEF and unit DEF? Are they not important and can be ignored?

[@t-me8295]

@tyouritsugun2815 HERO DEF is to be ignored. Mostly expensive decorations and won’t give you much in return . UNITS DEF its something TOTALLY DIFFERENT and super important. It’s an extra dmg decrease

[@HarimotoSatoshi]

@@t-me8295 how can I make the crit multip higher? The WAR decors, or upgrade Stromoy to level 7?

[@t-me8295]

@tyouritsugun2815 hero skill OR component..ONLY worth it in PVE

[@HarimotoSatoshi]

@@t-me8295 mathematically, the indestructible is important, a small increase will give us a big improvement. I have Layla in navy and Striker for army, how to increase their indestructible? The WAR decor, or upgrade Stromoy to level 7 are good options?

[@fortress8758]

Very awesome, props to the genious

[@t-me8295]

I could have NOT done it without haarf & maymi. The result is one of the most important videos for this game and community

[@barouchanteby4428]

Excellent Video once again. Thanks

[@t-me8295]

You are welcome, Barouch

[@Dann-D]

Good to see your video editing are getting better good video bud

[@t-me8295]

Trying Dann ❤️

[@MessyNess_]

I agree. Also loving the video as always T-me. Always look forward to new videos.

[@t-me8295]

Thank you , Messy

[@L1van]

Thank you vey much T-me! Great video, this video really allow to better understand the battel mechanic and how to evaluate the difference between the value of the HT Cheaps (specifically: DEF vs DMG Inc / DMG Dec / ATK) etc... It will be really great if you can do some video to explain the SvS strategies. GREATE JOB T-Me as always !

[@t-me8295]

Try this and there is a part 2 also kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5ekpIyOoZurftU

[@L1van]

I have seen these videos for Server Organization. But I talk about real SvS battle strategy, ruin defending / moves / when and what to capture. Who need to be attacked etc...

[@t-me8295]

I have a video from king of war tournament. Not sure if you saw that . It’s a bit difficult to shoot perfect material …as the main priority remains my performance to help my server the best I can

[@L1van]

The SvS games from Tournament are great to see. But the problem is at 99% of KZbin video with SvS battels are missing comments and explanations on the moves and decisions and tactics and strategeis of the top/good players. We have funny music instead but for the mid-ranking/investment VIP11 (in 1 exp year) player the video does not provide sufficient understanding on decisions and tactics. I think I am not alone in this situation. It will be really helpful and very useful for Top War community to have commented/explained SvS games.

[@t-me8295]

Then I will do that Get the material and explain the tactics which we had

[@wgOu812]

need help with your division statement if you could take a moment. (1 + DMG decrease) / (1 + Suppression) / ( 1 + DMG debuff) x ( 1 - Indestructible) For this example, indestructible is most important. but lets say each value is 50% 1.5/1.5/1.5= .667. This would make the Attack value Bigger. It would help if you added some ( expression ) to better dictate how things are used well in the divisor.

[@t-me8295]

During the battle the slot size gets lower and lower . That’s they only variable . All other stats are fix values (you stats Opponent stats)

[@pericles5170]

I've been arguing with people on my server that heroes with atk skills count as dmg increase for years. Thank you for such a great video that makes total sense with what I've observed in top war.

[@t-me8295]

More then 2 years now…in this events ..I was opening all boxes which I got that day …and getting atrocious bad results. Sure the RNG and drop rate is NOT questionable …and the devs see normal behavior…but it’s about me, you … I don’t get happy if everything is working as intended (among all the players which do the pulls)…it’s about me, you: I don’t wanna be part of the 90% of the players which gets crap !

[@t-me8295]

I MUST repeat myself : You can watch …have a valid opinion about this , regardless if it’s the same as mine OR NOT Then.. It’s up to you to decide: I will do it this way …OR NOT

[@jaguttierrez]

Not too be too contrary but I always like your edits. This is a game, for entertainment. I find that your edits increase my enjoyment of the game as I, not just find your videos full of info, but also enjoyable to watch. Thanks again!

[@t-me8295]

Thank you, Jacob

[@chingmanleung3497]

thanks for answering my question

[@t-me8295]

Trying my best

[@bjf5151]

oh wow..very informative..

[@t-me8295]

Yes. Great collaboration with haarf & Maymi

[@adityabhuvad9574]

When gatcha event is come ? Somebody know ?

[@t-me8295]

Its 3-4 times a year. See what data my latest gatcha video has ( when it was uploaded) and add 4 months

[@adityabhuvad9574]

​@@t-me8295 Plz calculate and which next month come can you say ? 😆

[@franckd4284]

I knew you will explain perfectly. 😁 but yep appear clearly that war stat , debuff and indestructible are a real deal.but it appear that hero def stat not as much important. Must have been forget in formula

[@t-me8295]

It’s great to watch…not necessarily need to understand the math behind it …but rather see: the stats which are part of the formula and some stats are more stronger then others

[@t-me8295]

And ofc. Huge help from haarf and maymi …I made the Core Video …then sent the Core Video to maymi and haarf to see it first …and they found 2 mistakes. I correct it …then started the editing so I can add a funny note also 😂😂

[@nas4563]

Hey T-me does this formula mean the defender’s HP and stack size don’t have an impact? I’m a MM struggling to figure out if i should be using common march or decreased dmg. Thanks if you by chance respond to a comment on a 10 month old video. Keep up the awesome work

[@Hpu1997]

Great video. Once again. That’s . A lot. Ya. So. I’m now wondering what’s is the hierarchy of stats to focus on in order of importance. Because of course… it’s a lot to take in. I know you already did a video on this. Are there any updates/ changes now? For example when choosing what to upgrade with universal decor shards. Thanks again. Much appreciated

[@t-me8295]

To be honest. There is : dmg - dmg+ march size , attack from equipment, mastery, indestructible buff The order…the rank is best described as: Whatever if this stats are closer to get an extra lvl… That’s the good thing about it: you can work parallel on them

[@Hpu1997]

What about decor that help war or def?

[@t-me8295]

The HERO DEF has a weaker impact then hero WAR . Just pay attention in events m when there are decorations with HERO WAR …get it to lvl 1 or lvl 2

[@stephencoleman6564]

How would I calculate war+def as dmg or atk ? Just trying to work out which is better for cost efficiency

[@t-me8295]

Dmg + - is slightly cheaper then War/Def hero stats. That is manly from decoration

[@abdulahadmohammedestubali9008]

Love you sooooo much 😚😚😚🤗

[@t-me8295]

Love goes both ways . I know you are here from the start, Ali

[@anasshehab8784]

Wow, what a great advanced video! Thanks . I have question when you read the stats you find a field titled others , do you know what does it mean ?

[@t-me8295]

Base skins …if I understand your question correctly

[@Airhopster1]

T me or anybody can you move to conflict zone and then go back to support zone ?

[@t-me8295]

I think not. But not sure

[@wgOu812]

to continue... unless it is like this ((Total Attack value/ (1 + DMG decrease)) / (1 + Suppression)) / (( 1 + DMG debuff) x ( 1 - Indestructible))

[@wgOu812]

still an attack value of 1--> (1/1.5)= .667 ( (.67/1.5) / 1.5= .44444 ) / (1.5 x 1.5 ) = .44444/2.25 = .197 of the orginal value. oops sorry 1.5 X .5 =.75 reducing the divisor... something is missing... if you could clarify.. thx :) and keep up the good work

[@t-me8295]

Contact : haafr#1618 on discord. Maybe he can find a better way to explain. He is our math brain and he reversed engineered the combat formula

[@ceioc3io182]

Thank you for your work. Can you give your opinion, or even test march Layla + Kotia + Nemo. I am very curious if nemo and kotia can stack up and silence full enemy march, or it's just waste of slot.

[@t-me8295]

It’s kind of safe to say you would unbalance your March. Sure you have a lot of silences, but who’s killing the opponent’s units?

[@ceioc3io182]

I belive Nemo than. Because he is better version of bassel. With 80% Atk boost and exclusive skill on 7 lvl with 80% more DMG. I know that You running Seasprey, but i have hope that march will give better results vs maximo.

[@ceioc3io182]

I currently have bassel, bailos and layla. And i am looking for some well rounded march witch can compete both with army and air force. And i only thinking theoretically, because both Nemo, kotia and seasprey hasn't aviable on my server yet. And i am just curious if replacing seasprey with Nemo gives any chance to air force, because i belive you should still with army.

[@t-me8295]

Kotiya is better then Nemo Please pay attention…no point to jump from BAILOS to Nemo …be patient and wait for kotiya .

[@t-me8295]

If you follow my advice : performance vs tanks is guaranteed. Vs planes ….only : RNG gods …or a developer…can help 😂😂

[@skier1]

Thanks for the video! I do have some questions regarding the formula. 1. In the first part of the equation, you have (hero war *1,3) in the video. Could this mean hero war * 1 for all three heroes? 2. Also, in the video, it says, "All other attack" just to be clear, is this total "Army ATK bonus" (if you're attacking with army, for example)? 3 . Next in the comment you wrote + crit multiplier * stack size. I am guessing this is just a typo and should be * hit multiplier * stack size. 4. In the second half of the equation (using opponents' stats), you have / (1 + DMG decrease) / (1 + Suppression) / ( 1 + DMG debuff) x ( 1 - Indestructible). If this is true, the total value derived from the combat formula increases as these figures increase, which doesn't make any sense. My guess is that the formula should look something like this: Base ATK x ( 1 + (type mastery ATK + Equip ATK + Comp ATK + HERO BOND ATK) + (HERO WAR x 1.3) + all other ATK) x (1+ DMG) x ( 1 + HERO ATK) x hit multiplier x Stack Size / [ (1 + DMG decrease) x (1 + Suppression) x ( 1 + DMG debuff) x ( 1 - Indestructible) ] A few observations from this formula: 1. There is no indication of why attacking would have an advantage over defending, assuming both attacker and defender face the same combat formula. 2. Hero Skill Attack bonuses are not a multiplier but are counted twice. For example, Megatron's 50% attack bonus is equivalent to a 100% attack bonus. 3. Indestructible, Dmg decrease, and DEF are all weighted equally. Meaning 1% dmg decrease = 1 % DEF = 1% indestructible. However, since all three act as multipliers of the other, the total effect is relative to there original values. For example, if your dmg decrease = 100% and your DEF = 50%, an increase in DEF by 10% increase the size of the opponent combat formula denominator by 6.67%, whereas an increase in dmg decrease by 10% increases the opponents denominator by 5%. So in this case, DEF is 1.33x better than Dcr dmg taken. I know this is a lot, but I would really appreciate hearing your thoughts on this. I watched the video twice, but it is possible that I misunderstood something that you already discussed.

[@t-me8295]

1. no : add all 3 hero value x 1.3! 2. Ofc: the attack of the unit type …whichever unit you use in your formation (main unit …do not mix this with the 2 slots for the encirclement) 3. NOPE …cause you missed the KEY FACTOR…the amount of units on the slot which is about to hit! I will make another video to explain it better …as i brainstormed a bit….how could I explain it better

[@t-me8295]

Attacker > defender : It’s again…the KEY POINT IS: how many units are on the slots which is about to hit…the lower this number it gets..the lower the dmg output gets! It’s a pro active combat ….as attacker …you start to reduce the opponent’s units on slots ..which results in the opponent attack weakening! If the defender is not crazy lucky on hero procs …this advantage ( attacker vs defender) gets bigger and bigger with every slot the attacker hits the defender

[@t-me8295]

DEF on the units (NOT HERO)…is circa 1,5 dmg-. You have dmg- and DEF….1 def ~ 1.5 dmg-

[@t-me8295]

Indestructible is crucial important as it is on top of the dmg- , DEF

[@skier1]

@@t-me8295 For my question 3 let me clarify, you wrote in the comments, "+crit multiplier x Stack size", in the video you wrote " x hit multiplier x stack size". Just wanted to confirm that its the latter.

[@054734]

For the decorations, do you have to have them placed in the base to activate them, or the buff would work in the inventory?

[@t-me8295]

The big sets can stay in inventory…but all others decorations MUST be placed in your base , otherwise they are not counting

[@054734]

Thanks

[@t-me8295]

I hope it helps

[@nikharbhardwaj3715]

Hi t-me, i like the videos you make they are very helpful to grow in the game, but some players keep attacking my alliance 😢 24 hrs...can you help us anyhow??

[@t-me8295]

This is normal till they realise that the huge cake is svs type of events. In which you get the best results but the server must work together

[@nikharbhardwaj3715]

@@t-me8295 my alliance is ranked 3rd in server and the attacking alliance is ranked 1 ....they are bullying us for accepting player that they dislike...i wished that you could help but, thanks anyway

[@t-me8295]

I would love to help , but sadly there is not much I can do

[@abdulahadmohammedestubali9008]

Little devil is so cute 😚😚😚

[@t-me8295]

And he is very very very smart . Couldn’t have done it without him

[@TheArhanghelu]

I had to go to college to be able to calculate this quickly?

[@t-me8295]

It’s an extremely important information….taking the formula apart …helps a lot to understand

[@skelly835]

Could you write the formula in the comments its hard to read in the video?

[@t-me8295]

Base ATK x ( 1 + (type mastery ATK + Equip ATK + Comp ATK + HERO BOND ATK) + (HERO WAR x 1.3) + all other ATK) x (1+ DMG) x ( 1 + HERO ATK) +crit multip x Stack Size / (1 + DMG decrease) / (1 + Suppression) / ( 1 + DMG debuff) x ( 1 - Indestructible)

[@lil_caprisun69]

If you had bad planes would you use shinji instead of op in your army?

[@t-me8295]

To be honest. Planes are the best setup for f2p / low budget. The answer is yes. I never liked planes , but when shianji came out , in November, I had to switch . The best game performance

[@abdulahadmohammedestubali9008]

Bro understand that adding division in any calculation means we are defining a unit for eg distance per unit time is called speed. Or we are looking at fraction comparison like 1:4 it's like comparison so I don't understand what you are trying to show us by this combat formula because that division is causing havoc in calculations

[@t-me8295]

I will make an extra video and take the combat formula WITH a parallel battle report.

[@abdulahadmohammedestubali9008]

@@t-me8295 😯🆗

[@t-me8295]

My future video list is getting bigger and bigger …bare with me

[@raqilbilhanko7047]

Hi timmy i have a question

[@t-me8295]

Shoot, Raqil

[@raqilbilhanko7047]

@@t-me8295 right now my main is navy, my main march is kotiya, yuu, and akatora all 5 stars. I'm looking for better march, right now in inventory i got layla at 3 stars, shinji at 1 stars. So in the near future, what line of march should i use, thanks timmy!

[@t-me8295]

Take Layla as next 5 star project …get her to 5 star and replace Yuu Shinji is absolutely best hero in game …but …now with Layla is the better option for navi

[@wgOu812]

@@t-me8295 Not sure if you are using Ereyne with Rei and the rage factor. Unless indestructible is additive between the two.

[@t-me8295]

The rage factor is not taken in consideration

[@Somebody77927]

by the way you dont have to put so much edits in your videos its somehow annoying

[@t-me8295]

Ok. Noted

[@Somebody77927]

@@t-me8295thank you

[@t-me8295]

The reason for trying my best by: -adding a funny note -heavy editing etc It’s cause I saw a lot of people don’t watch the videos till the end, despite great information quality. Your feedback is noted , Malek

[@thetomatojet9075]

Has anyone written this equation in a proper mathematic formula? I know it’s hard to type it out but the order of operations kinda fly out the window 🫣

[@t-me8295]

Yes. This is Haafr’s work . Here is his discord name : haafr