TOPWAR: Up which VALUES for Damage Increase / Decrease, should we STOP USING the ENCIRCLEMENT UNITS

[@joseokker3462]

please don't leave the game T-me, we need your advice, please stay!!!

[@ronysaada9127]

Hi guys, this issue has been bothering me for a long time so I did a large number of pvp and pve tests. I did the tests with 300% dmg+ because that's the average on my server. And maybe also relevant to most of us. In this game heros proks is the most important. In order to earn a buff and not just a minimal one, you will need at least 2 universal heroes in March. So this is a serious problem for the navy meta. A hero with universal indesructble is a must. If you have full attack perk then you lose 330% on 2 sluts. The more universal heroes you enjoy in the march, the more significant the buff will be. Also equivalent arsenal is needed, component with the same lv preferably level 10 on the 3 types. hrf lv10 required. Good equipment and almost the same for everyone. Preferably purple at least if gold is not for you. Adjust the HT with suppress to your advantage. In a perfect world, the numbers you'll see in the results are a 10-15% improvement in strength. Good luck and enjoy the game. Rony s2695

[@ronysaada9127]

I forgot another thing, on these 2 slots, you will lose or gain the buff from titan gear. Depends on what gear the heroes have.

[@t-me8295]

Thank you , Rony

[@JSR-dn7hv]

Timmy, I’ve been saying this for quite a while. For me with circa 420% dmg increase it’s not worth placing encirclement for the dmg- but I have found that it’s worth having one stack of different units for the dmg increase (but the benefit is waning now). This is further compounded by the equipment levels of each march type as well. Of course anyone with gold remoulds on air force and nothing on Navy would be daft to place navy units in their march for encirclement purposes.

[@t-me8295]

Thank you for your data / feedback, JSR.

[@Lexan5]

Awesome info bro I really appreciate it

[@mohamedzahr2277]

welcome back buddy , great effort as always 🤩🤩 at almost 300% dmg inc & Dec i still need the encirclement units no doubt

[@t-me8295]

True. I’m expecting upwards of 500% to be noticeable change

[@martinkesselaar9522]

Nice again Timmy. I've also thought about this. Good to see that you kind off have an estimate around what dmg you should considder not to use it. Other question, we talked about bully's on servers and the fact that even with a mass rally you can't do anything about it because it handles it turn by turn. that massive whale took over the server and left us, 170 active members, without major ruin, cap etc. With the comming transfers we are afraid that he lets in more strong people and we are whiped out off the game. Did you hear anything about changes they are going to make to make this more fair? I should be possible for 170 members to take over the cap from only 1 player?

[@clarencereddick2811]

I’m currently at 305 % dmg+ for my Navy march. I have determined for my situation with 100 % compression against Army. When attacking army a march with Navy and 1 stack of Army works best verses 3 unit types. When attacking Navy with my Navy I still need to use full encirclement for best results. It’s still the difference when I’m navy against navy.

[@darkolevanic7172]

T-Me for CEO of River Game 💪💪

[@JFROMM454]

I have been curious of this since I saw Robin make that post in the faction chat. I am just a little guy at 213% DMG+ and 250 DMG- so I’m sure I’m fine to keep using the encirclement buffs

[@t-me8295]

We are looking into this So far we assume to be upwards of 450% dmg+ and dmg -

[@maurelius135]

Never considered dropping encirlement. I'm a mid-level player and assumed it was still giving me an advantage. I'll have to test. Great topic tme!

[@franckd4284]

Hi 👋 300% dmg+/-. I don t use full encirclement. Only 1 different unit type. Reason is 1 of you encirclement slot will be massively hit by suppression. In fact 3rd unit type doesnt live enough long to compensate the lack of strengh when you hit... As said up if your equipement is not same lvl as your main unit, the slot will vanish too fast ...not even a full turn. So yes i miss the 30% dmg decrease but it s compensate by à full slot of main hitting hard. 2 point, if your assaut formation is under 14, then your weakest slot are 4 and 6. If using striker sometime it s better having your supress here if no other hero need second row. The "leave and quit" will rise out massively atm. Ppl really upset with devs ignoring them and focusing on whale. Transfer ( very few allowed) is also an issue. We have a list of more than 150 ppl Wishing to join since last transfer...and we can only pick 60 🤦‍♂️ if we cant play with friends, if our reasonable demand to improve our gaming experience are ignore well ...many other game around . I may not be a whale but spend some hundreds monthly ( we may be numerous) if TW think they dont need it, i will be please to make them right.

[@t-me8295]

Franck, thank you so much for your feedback and you are absolutely correct: their “business model” is mind blowing. It’s like their employees are qualified for anything ELSE abut running such company. Mainly the upper layer of employees

[@franckd4284]

@t-me8295 business model is the same as per casino. Small players provide the crowd, activity, noise and so on...on top level vip room with free food and drink care of whale spending on "private" party 🤷 leaderboard must be from Hongkong or macao 🤣🤣🤣

[@t-me8295]

@franckd4284 nah. A bunch of pure and simple unqualified employees. Especially the supervisors: superiors This is the nacked truth and NOT meant to be disrespectful. The big business is coming from the small spenders, due to their amount being huge.

[@pericles5170]

308% dmg in and 280% dmg dec with encirclement ive been noticing that without encirclement i do much better. The fact that my navy heroes only trigger on navy unit is a big factor i think.

[@t-me8295]

Absolutely. Thank you for sharing your data / experience. It helps a lot

[@ferenckis7799]

Hey T Me, is the tanticle of greed skin worth getting? Thanks

[@fortress8758]

from what i´ve seen burning ppl so far: with army it´s usually worth it using encircle. Even if it´s just a small buff, gypsy, polik and snake eyes all completely depend on the first one or two rows so the slots 7-9 basically don´t make a difference so better if you can use them to buff front rows with encircle. Navy players got screwed by devs once again with stromoy, as she only buffs the back 2 rows after round 1. With around 350% inc/dec I´ve seen a lot of no encircle marches outperform marches with encircle and higher stats. Granted, it is navy so even if tests end up being a 99% winrate with one setup, it still doesn´t mean it´s better for sure. Air I´ve been unable to test as i either have my navy get absolutely bent over either way, my army obliterates it or I hit a whale again in which case I can´t really count the outcome.

[@anarchygaming3535]

I’ve been testing with my March and I hit harder with just my main units and one secondary stack. Then with two spots filled. I’m at about 450 dmg inc and Dec. so I use only two unit types when hitting bases.

[@t-me8295]

Thank you buddy. Very interesting

[@JSR-dn7hv]

Yes exactly the same in my experience and stats seem very similar.

[@jitendrayadav-47]

My army is close to 650% and I use only 1 stack of airforce in slot 9 because my af is way stronger than navy. Army heroes are universal so all 3 of them can proc from plane. My planes are still at 500% damage stats so I don't think removing them and using army will give me any big boost but same goes vice versa. One of the reason why I use them is because it is better when I'm facing a navy opponent because of suppression advantage and it will be a golden unit so it can soak a lot of damage from navy heroes as compared to army

[@t-me8295]

I will start testing at one point with my stats also

[@Nemesis.114]

Thanks bro.. I use 2 type only because 3rd still weak.. and it will destroyed easy Waiting for the next episode 👍

[@t-me8295]

Thank you for sharing your approach, Nemesis

[@BlakHeart666]

Be honest, I’m a mid tier player and any stat I can get to help me is welcomed, not everyone is robin or dosar where the little details affect them greatly

[@t-me8295]

You are missing the point : That being : up how much dmg+ and dmg - value , would the encirclement buff be weaker then using full units in your March. Ps : not even for my account is worth it at my stats level , BUT : If rivergame doesn’t have the time to buff the encirclement, we too we reach this point on which ITS AN ADVANTAGE to know this rather then a disadvantage

[@AegisPatris]

Did you verify this with the Devs? Noe encirclement needed base defense and rallies?

[@t-me8295]

Yes. You are correct. No need to use encirclement units in : your base , rallies

[@andre0000000007]

lol i like the painting and frame around T-me! haha.. Timmy, i have a question re-shark formation talent +1, i can't see where it's changed. eg. my front row is lev 2,lev 2, lev 2. I thought they would go +1 to lev 3,3,3 but i'm not seeing it !!

[@t-me8295]

It’s the buffs from the promote tab getting +1 level up

[@andre0000000007]

@@t-me8295 thank you T-me !!!!

[@marcelokuro]

I need to research more, hahaha

[@t-me8295]

Ye. You will get there

[@tanakakto]

Top War is no different than a business legacy system that did not update every function for new business parameters. At a certain point, the legacy (old) functions will break the system or be left aside not to be used. It all goes down to cost/benefits: will our business be impacted negatively if we do not spend to modify that function? I strongly suspect Rivergame development is completely oriented to the short term aspect of generating revenues now and not making a change that will not directly provide income.(This is not good or bad, it is simply a business model). I suspect, the QOL (Quality of life) changes here and there we see are changes the developers want in and they “sneak” them in. Of course, this is just speculations, but they are backed with years of experience in IT.

[@t-me8295]

The vast majority of their decisions reflect pretty much ANYTHING BUT how to maintain and develop the game to a FAR BIGGER audience.

[@Carsaab]

Can you explain how march size impacts our battles and how much stronger your march gets by adding 1-10 march size.

[@t-me8295]

I did this long ago , in a fantastic video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmGUYYSoi9BoqZYsi=k48fKEalyrA33ont Did you saw this one ?

[@donaldneo4317]

Encirclement works in buildings/rally with other players having other troop types? Its applied not per battle?

[@jitendrayadav-47]

Yes it works

[@rainnaturesleep1382]

Honestly, this game needs to improve and lower its costs. A hero should take lesser shards to take to 5 star and skill should be for 10 skill shards, so its at least approachable for f2ps.

[@Raifburn2011]

Hallo T-me . Ich weiß es passt nicht unter diesem Video aber ich wollte dich fragen ob du weißt wann ein neuer Server immer aufmacht ? Liebe Grüße und Dankeschön für die tollen Videos immer 🙏

[@t-me8295]

Rivergame startet ständig neue Servers

[@nightieman1]

Not really answering the question on how to increase damage increase to 500%

[@shivangss823]

T-me play whiteout survival its just like top war

[@t-me8295]

Ye

[@nikhilkushwaha9242]

Me joined your warzone and my warzone number is 3221 how to join

[@franckd4284]

Cant, your server is too young