Toro Multiforce w/ Dethatcher Setup First Look! (Pretty Dope)

Today we're using the Toro MultiForce Dethatcher setup on my moms property to dethatch and power rake her lawn. This attachment and accessory is brand new to us and by the looks of it, Toro is really on to something.
We were able to dethatch the lawn in under a half hour and pull up a good bag full of grass/thatch layer. The Toro dethatcher and powered bagger are a powerful duo for sure, and I can really see this setup making us a chunk each and every spring.
Do you guys offer dethatching service for your clients, or is it part of your spring cleanup? Love to hear what you guys are charging per 1k/sqft! We have 2 more jobs on the books today, that vlog will come out this week as well!
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[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

This was the first attempt at us doing a dethatch with the new setup, and surprisingly went really well. If you guys saw on Instagram stories real time on Friday, we knocked out two more dethatching's back to back and they went great as well. What are you guys getting now days for a dethatching? Do you guys price it per 1k/sqft? Love to hear what you guys are doing!

[@treyvonlanwservice6860]

Thanks for sharing 👍 👊

[@hawkeye8190]

Our spring cleanups are mainly all dethatchings. We price base on time some lawns get more thatch than others. When you pick up the dethatcher if you back up a little bit before picking it up it wont throw those chunks onto the sidewalk and is easier on the tines.

[@doctaj.2571]

I've been asked one single time to dethatch a yard in the past 18 years. I live in Florida so mostly it's St. Augustine. I actually bought a small walk behind Sunjoe electric dethatcher to make my first attempt. My customer knows it's my first attempt. I also just scaled his yard two weeks ago for spring. I've never done that before either. 18 years I've been doing this.

[@nicknock8754]

Get quite a bit of dethatching up in Minnesota after all the snow kills some grass in the winter. Got a similar setup to yours with the front dethatcher and a powerflow bagger, very streamlined, best way to go that I can tell, at least at a cost effective price.

[@lenovillegas3868]

Hello Brian, we are a small new company (wife and I) mostly doing spring/fall cleanups, garden demolition, design, installation and some mulching but no hardscape or lawn cutting as of yet. Fall leaf cleanup is in demand here and I am wondering what kind of set-up you'd recommend to make fall clean ups more efficient. Currently we only have a F150 we use to haul equipment and debri but am considering getting a trailer and a multiforce. Will the multiforce pull a small leaf vacuum?

[@BigdaddiZ]

I originally read the thumbnail as “deathmatch” I was like “what in the world Is Brian doing today????” 😂

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

LOL

[@saltylandscaper7193]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Alex.AL_26]

it is really nice to be able to dethatch and pick everything up with the vacuum attachment in one pass.

[@Dale.Nienow]

Great video Brian, we offer dethatching separate from spring cleanups. The thing I like about the Toro grandstand multi-force is you don’t have to get off the machine to pull the dethatcher up off the ground, it’s just a push of a button. And that you can bag and dethatch at the same time saves a lot of time and money.

[@andyslawncareandoutdooradv]

Thats a sweet setup for de-thatching lawns quickly. I felt it did a great job for sure! Would definetly like to see more of it in action in the future

[@elitelawn9547]

That's a very nice setup on the Toro. I use a manual 60" dethatcher on my Lazer Z. I just include it in most of my cleanups. It's a good up sell that is justifiable. Customers always love how their lawn looks when done.

[@byronn.2885]

I dethatch all my accounts that are irrigated and fertilized. We get a lot of snow up north (about 4.5 hrs north of you) and the grass just gets so matted down from snow loads all winter. It really helps loosen up the lawn and gives it a bit of a kick start to wake up for the season. It also helps to cleanup any remaining leaves that are stuck to the ground from fall.

[@pikePERSUADER1]

Same in Connecticut. It makes the cleanup quicker and easier. I always try to sell it, but do it anyway.

[@hawkeye8190]

Agree 100% helps freshen up lawns faster

[@KevinBakin47]

I agree and do the same even a bit further north of you (U.P.) I really enjoy 'waking up' the grass this time of year! Good luck on your season!

[@byronn.2885]

@@KevinBakin47 so far it looks like it will be a much earlier start than last year. Mowing season didn’t get going until the last week of May in 2020 due to all the below average temps. This year we are above average and I’m struggling to get all my dethatching done before the grass gets tall.

[@hifipi3.14]

As someone who just rented a tow behind dethatcher and had to come back and clean it all up by hand afterwards, this looks awesome. I raked the front by hand and got smart on the backyard and used the zero turn with the deck at 4.5” with the pto on to make a manageable pile in the back. Live and learn.

[@glendajune9140]

Very impressive attachment. Looking forward to seeing the results as the season progresses.💯❤️👍🏾😀🙋🏽‍♀️✝️🙏🏾🇺🇸

[@Fencearmor]

That is awesome! Loved the different POV's.

[@richpicone7788]

Toro has absolutely NAILED it with this machine. I demo’d one with the mower and spoon aerator, and another with the turbine blower..... Brian...imagine having this with a plow or brush for the sidewalks of your commercial plowing accounts. You need to keep this!

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Couldn't agree more!

[@talanjohn]

The dethatcher is a JRCO model. I have one on my Wright ZK. I think it makes the spring cleanup look great by fluffing up the grass and remaining leaves. Great finishing touch.

[@GoodmanLawn]

Nice Brian! I cant wait for this upcoming season

[@williamhiggins8525]

Super satisfying to watch good work

[@ashleeleon9216]

That is a awesome set up!! So much time saved being able to suck it up right after. I just bought a dethatcher for my ride on and did my front and side grass last fall and I couldn't believe all the dead grass it pulled up. But the clean up is a pain even with a high powered backpack blower. I need to do the back yard soon. BTW I love your videos and congrats on your baby girl coming soon (my birthday is July 27th 😉 )!! My daughter Amelia just turned 3 yrs old and she is the best thing that ever happened to us.. You guys are going to be Great Parents!!

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Thanks Ashlee!

[@logansimpson305]

Great video love the toro multi force the detacher is dope

[@danslawncare8594]

Hey Brian I detach my yards first week of March here in mississippi before the grass starts to grow and then I fertilize them. It works really well. I have a detacher I pull with my garden tractor and I clean it up with a grass chacher on my ZTR. I love the toro set up.

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Good stuff

[@tommybubala2208]

Love the content! Keep up the great work! 👍

[@Mperkins1030]

I was looking at these today while selling lawn are :) What a way to increase your profits and do it efficiently! Thanks for sharing.

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Our pleasure!

[@richardharms8748]

I do not move for hire, but I thatch my yard every year. Makes a big difference .

[@RavensHardCore]

Really cool video Brian!! 👍

[@chrisreddick36]

Nice maybe you can get the aerator too show how it works. Thanks for sharing I really like it.

[@gonzalezproservices8961]

I offer dethatching as an up service just like aeration, and I usually do the most of these services in the spring (New England)...I really like that front dethatcher attachment, was scoping a generic one from Bringly for my new zero turn

[@hectortorres6953]

I have the same setup on my 60 “ sit down Exmark mower. Works great and I have it down to a science. Easy money!!!!

[@connorreid9156]

Where I’m at it’s a Walker dominated market and dethatching is huge in the spring! The multi force looks great.

[@fitiam1972]

Love this you guys rock

[@jasonolmsted4147]

We don’t do dethatching around here I don’t offer that as a service in my experience it removes more good grass than bad. You also have to haul all that crap away too! About the only grass I know of that could use that is zoysia grass and we don’t have any hardly full lawns of it here in Missouri. My lawn company we do aerations and slice seedings. I don’t mow lawns either just do lawn applications and trees. If I was going to do it that would be the setup to use beats raking everything up after you use the walk behind dethatcher.

[@tobylou8]

That's a JRCO dethatcher. They do a good job but the frames are "bendy". As long as you don't transport it very far, it won't bend as much.

[@mikewoodbury7248]

Pretty sweet set up. I run a similar setup with the walker mower. I offer dethatching to all my customers. I charge new customers and ones that only use our service periodically for dethatching. Regular season customers I include it free on there spring or fall clean up!!! Cutting and stripping that sweet “G” on Cape Cod!!! Keep them lines hot!

[@GrassDaddy]

I like that you can pull the dethatcher up.

[@toddbehrends1373]

Great video. You are right, it is a great money maker with little time invested.

[@treyvonlanwservice6860]

Awesome video bro 👍

[@mikalpechota770]

I added a Dttach hitch and dethatcher attachment. Its pricey but very impressive. I use it with DFS bagger and power blower on a ZMaster 5000 60”. I’m over in W Michigan by Kzoo. Great vids.

[@fix-itbrothers1477]

You have a great you tube channel thanks for posting

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Thank you too

[@doverintheyarddiy841]

Man I like that setup

[@skippy55008]

I have always dethatch in the spring i built my own thather and mounted it to the front of my zero turn. i use the thatcher to help pull up all the matted down trash in the yards. dethatching works best in dry grass. wet grass youre just asking for trouble

[@pikePERSUADER1]

So I always try to sell it as an extra on top of the spring cleanup, BUT, alot of the time, I'll do one pass with it whether their paying for it or not. The reason why is because it loosens up all of the leaves and little sticks and saves alot of blowing time. Makes it easy to just quickly blow the debris into a pile and collect.

[@hawkeye8190]

When we tine thatch we go down and back on each pass not just one way like mowing

[@philfsimon]

Just got one early this week and putting it to work before over-seeding. Really impressed the way it works. Have used the snow blade yet? Bought one two year ago and as luck would have it, no snow.

[@cwrowe]

Good video....👍

[@saltylandscaper7193]

My wife and i offer dethatching as its own service. Not included with clean ups. We do some in the fall and some in spring. Honestly in all the years i have been doing it it doesn't seem to make a difference whether it is done in the spring or fall. The only issue in spring is sometimes it takes a lawn longer to dry out for it. We do however try and avoid doing them on the same lawns every single year. Most lawns don't need it done that much if they are being properly maintained and it can actually do more harm than good if done to often.

[@bradleykornele]

You have all the cool toys

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Very thankful for everything we have, no doubt about it.

[@shaunotoole561]

Sweet amen

[@codyoates]

been a sub for couple yrs

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Thanks for the support!

[@markschmaus5580]

Looks like my next purchase lol

[@mrdavebach]

I love how your Mom's little piece of this earth, as small as it may be, totally dominates the neighborhood with that nice dark green color. It's a bit more noticeable in the back. Out of curiosity, did you send her this year's price increase letter? :)

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Ha! No rate increase for mom, she’s too loyal of a customer for a price bump 😁

[@lucasklosterman7474]

Hey Brian, How wide is the mower with the bagger system on it?

[@DB-rv6uw]

My man, I Don’t know if you see this but I’m a huge fan man you’re my go to guy . Just bought a Ballard jack for the mower because I saw it in your video and getting an impact drill soon. Anyways, I’m looking to get a thatcher and of course went straight to your videos to see what you use to apply it to my business . One question , when you’re turning with the thatcher does it mess up the tines over time/scrap the lawn wrong?

[@amyoverley4533]

I want to see you use the Echo PB 8010

[@hunterslawnsmichaelhunter1568]

Extra charge in MN for us it's a lot of work to include that with spring clean up or fall.

[@gamerfarms9362]

i just do it at the same hourly rate as bagging when doing cleanups

[@hunterslawnsmichaelhunter1568]

@@gamerfarms9362 I like to get the leaves up let the grass breath again and then next week or two get it done plus you can only get so much in a pick up bed even if you compact it down. If I was running 2 trucks or dump box or dump trailer sure I would add it

[@gamerfarms9362]

@@hunterslawnsmichaelhunter1568 we do run two mowers with the whole set up so that helps

[@peterroberts5788]

I have a lot of people calling ,"asking for bag up the grass clippings" thinking they will be able to pull one over on me. They think if they just pay for a one time clipping charge that will pull the thatch up along with the new clippings. Then they get pissed off when it doesn't work. When they should have just asked for what they really needed in the first place. I can always tell when it is going to be a case like that. And it happens with leaves also, when I get there on a leaf job and it looks like 3 to 4 years of build up woven in the grass and and they get butt hurt when I tell them they need dethatch instead of leaf clean up (raking).

[@peterroberts5788]

Can you use that attachment for a leaf clean up. I saw 6 months ago you were using the ride on 0 turns. I was wondering if that thing's tynes would work good for small oak type leaves and such. They are hard to get off the ground sometimes. What do you think about that?

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

I’m sure you could yessir. I don’t think we have time this spring, cleanups are mostly done

[@Kronik0805]

how do you price out dethatching?

[@james6752]

Can you make a video on using the lights on the multi force lawn mower?

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Sure!

[@james6752]

@@BriansLawnMaintenance thanks I am pumped

[@larryosselborn8353]

Brian can you tell me what the dethatch is for what does it do I have never seen this here in pa

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Removes excess that layer from the grass!

[@damianvalencia8889]

Do the tines even rotate? Seems a little different than your typical power rake

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Rotate, I don’t believe so.

[@chrispickett9253]

Hey Brian quick question I’m looking to have new business cards made up but I’m not sure what card stock to go with Wondering what your thoughts are?

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Just a thick high gloss setup should do just fine.

[@sunsetmowing]

Does the ram go into float mode with the thatching rake down?

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

I believe it’s down pressure

[@crypto_keegs6795]

Amazing! I Hope John Deere makes something like this that would awesome.

[@jimbauer5560]

Brian, as a customer, if asked if my lawn needed to be dethatched, is it necessary or just something recommended biannually? As a lawn and maintenance pro, how would you answer? Hopefully my questions made sense. Thanks for what you do for your customer’s.

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Hey Jim, for us around these neck of the woods I would say something every 3-5 seasons. I don’t personally feel the lawns need it that regularly, but every area is different I’m sure.

[@timkassler4210]

@@BriansLawnMaintenance Amen to that! 'Power raking, dethatching' is over sold in Northern climates by lawn care companies trying to make some money before the turf wakes up. Aerate, aerate, aerate every season. A true dethatching is not needed every year

[@drumnmachn19]

Do you think you could use to small sticks into piles instead of hand raking

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

We did on the second dethatch job we did. It picked up a bunch of sticks which was neat.

[@An11inchPenis]

It works wonders for willow trees

[@jonadams2359]

I know Brian can pull a string or two and be the first to review the scag 30 walk behind mower

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Probably more of a B&B item!!

[@firstname6208]

So do you dethatch and aereate the same ground? And get paid for both? I have not seen dethatching down here. Everyone aereates. I recently picked up a 30" exmark aereator $5100 150 hrs runs great, minimal wear. Couldn't pass it up.

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Depends what the customer wants!

[@IHDieselpulling1999]

Curious why you didn’t get a 60 inch dethatcher?

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Didn't know there is a 60" unit from Toro?

[@maryjaneisgreen]

Question. Well a few. What is the purpose for dethatching. Why is it good for the lawn. When would you dethatch. And what’s the difference between doing that and aerating

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

When the lawns are thick and matted from excessive clippings. It helps to let the lawn breathe and remove the yellow look from the lawn.

[@amyoverley4533]

Can you do a big sleep clean up with the x mark Xs

[@nickolsen8053]

What do people pay for this service? Utah lots are only .1-.3 acres

[@sebajolly]

A bit too wet to dethatch after the rain the night before. Now your are competing with @MNMillennialFarmer!

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Ha!

[@yardhelpwithjames821]

About how much do you make a year?

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

We gross around $200k with the business, and profit pretty a healthy chunk. Thx

[@yardhelpwithjames821]

@@BriansLawnMaintenance i was just wondering cause i am 14 and just started 2 years ago i make around $3500 a year

[@appelmac1]

I never mow wet grass! Not good for Bermuda. Or a deck! Hard to bag wet grass as well.

[@lawnkingslandscaping8328]

Brother man.....where's the aerator vid for this beast!!!

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

They didn't send it but I can see what they can do!

[@rushbox1]

Walker mower could do the same job too .

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Walkers cost as much as this unit and they’re a 1 trick pony tho.

[@kellycastro5939]

Hi Brian do you know any free software for irrigation company thanks God bless

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Yardbook!

[@kevincloonan9787]

thats the 1st bagger set up ive seen on a stand on. Is Toro the only one with that set up ?

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

I think SCAG has a powered bagger too for their stand on

[@aydensaunders3371]

Looks like it was more grass than thatch in the bagger, thatch is brown

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

The backyard of my moms grows way faster, so there is definitely more green grass from the 1" I probably took off the back. But, there's quite a bit of yellow thatch there in the bag.

[@joshuakaye2159]

Here in Chicago this just would get too many complaints. “It’s going to fast” “it’s not even enough” I don’t know, I think it’s still worth having 4 pushers.

[@hawkeye8190]

I hear you on that. We had those same questions the first year we switched to tine thatching mainly. I personally think it does a better job and doesn't take as long to clean up. But we do down and back passes not just one time

[@stempler7]

Crazy how they send you all these attachments, and I’m still waiting on my bagger that I ordered 4 months ago... (do to back order) 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

This was ordered 8 months ago amigo. No lie.

[@stempler7]

Still, you would think they would take care of the customers that actually bought the product. Especially since you kinda heat on it. Just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Love the channel thank you for all your advice. I really enjoy the videos.

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

They’re back logged bud. You and everyone else is waiting for the same bagger. We were ahead in the queue, and regardless of whether we paid for it or not, it doesn’t change the fact. Sorry for your frustration but at the same time you’re not the only one out there waiting on something in this current economy.

[@stempler7]

Spoken like a true businessman.

[@tylersmith1194]

How much do you charge for dethatching?

[@kyledavis2295]

Was thinking the same ? Is it worth the investment?

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

I’m at $75/1k

[@yiannikoularmanis4590]

Is that a jrco?

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

I believe so? I can’t say for sure.

[@jarednuessen1352]

@@BriansLawnMaintenance Great video Brian. Yes, that is a JRCO dethatcher that works with the multi force. JRCO aerator and leaf plow also are designed to work with it.

[@brandywine1548]

In the fall you dethach, figure you had enough experience to know that

[@DYMONDSLAWNANDLANDSCAPE]

Fall? There’s no thatch in the fall in NY... you can see the thatch in the spring and that matted down look from snow.

[@brandywine1548]

Ok I guess people in different areas do it different times

[@An11inchPenis]

Dethatch in spring here in Michigan. Picks up all the dead grass from the winter

[@SuperAsian78]

Better if it was a rotary

[@johnbailey2034]

Well the yard looks terrible because you mowed while it was wet . Really bad tire marks and ruts on the grass .

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Well on the front left section, but that is because of bad drainage. Fun project to install a french drain this year!

[@austindenney1384]

Did not seem to be pulling up much dead grass and when you showed the bagger it was mostly green when it should have been a majority of dead grass. Don’t see that as much difference with the cheep drag behind, it’s definitely not as good as a power rake or slitter. Check out some videos on the Bluebird Dethatcher and you will see a huge difference, this is just a toy in comparison.

[@kblessing93]

We offer dethatching buy no one ever really wants their weeds dethathed.

[@emmanueletienne9995]

Dethatch is so outdated and bad for the environment. It's like taking food away from the lawn. Thatch is good for the ground and keep the grass from burning up.

[@BriansLawnMaintenance]

Leaving a healthy layer of thatch is good for the lawn, but our lawns are extremely matted in the subdivisions we work in, and dethatching works wonders for them.