TorqAmp 48V Electric Turbo Supercharger at SEMA Show

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One of thes coolest inovations I've seen at the SEMA new products booth this past year. Boost your engine up to 6 psi with one of these systems. similar to the phantom electric supercharger that was available for the BRZ FRS and GT86. Designed and built in the Netherlands. electric boosting garett
Cleetus McFarland did a dyno test of this recently on a Chevy Cobalt.
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[@Republican_Extremest]

#CleetusMcFarland #DoItForDale #BaldEagles #Leroy #Ruby #SendIt #McFarlandFabrications

[@302hobronco]

Let's see a dyno video. Real world power not just lip service and hypothetical results. After seeing Cletus McFarland test and tune the torqamp I am a believer.

[@allanb3222]

They do have Dyno videos, they did an is200

[@302hobronco]

@@allanb3222 was it an actual before and after video?? The ones I've seen are just a pull and a graph but no real evidence. I want to believe it works but until engine masters does it im not holding my breath lol

[@kieranmoffett6687]

@@302hobronco agreed

[@DanMarcelino]

As long as the motor can spin the compressor at a high enough rpm with no issue, then it will provide adequate boost

[@Mastermindyoung14]

@@DanMarcelino no

[@santanasantana9936]

I'm here because of cobalt cleetus 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@diangeloaldana6365]

Right

[@eue7dyueuehdueud445]

Same

[@962RACER]

He should lend a kit to Cleetus McFarland/BoostedBoiz etc, their channels have huge exposure so if it works millions of people will know.

[@nikolaybaldzhiev9623]

Yes Cleetus did but he should do proper tune with it,not just bolt it on and to expect magic. Yes he followed the instructions but we all know that no tuning part works without being tuned especially him. The people from Aston Martin wouldn't go out to Sema on hopes and dreams. And having to know today's F1 engines have turbocharger but it keeps spool when not in load by electronic motor.

[@jasonpressler7111]

@@nikolaybaldzhiev9623 If you watched the video it was restricting before they even got to the tune. The system never pushed enough air to feed it at high rpms. Ergo without a single clean run there is nothing to tune.

[@nicholasmerrriman2296]

Yes cleetus did an electric supercharger. However, the Chinese kit is nothing compared to this one. This one actually creates boost. Not much but still....

[@moosestanggang]

Nicholas Merrriman yea different kit entirely lol

[@glennreis9300]

@@nikolaybaldzhiev9623 It's a completely different product. I hope you're joking.

[@raywaltdecuba5699]

Actually works and dyno tested! and it will get better, Audi is currently using a bi turbo system which one turbo is electric to minimize lag! This being said, i find it to be too expansive for 20 hp, there are turbo and supercharge kits out there with mapping /car specific that offers more hp and clean bolt on parts for the same price. What would make this better to purchase for this price? Make this affordable and people will buy them like crazy!

[@robh87]

Guy was very knowledgeable. And the product does work as we saw on the Cleatus channel. I say it's a win especially for a home mechanic that maybe can't weld or afford to pay a welder for all the hot and cold piping. I'm thinking of getting one for my jet boat that has a 455 in it.

[@SoI_Badguy]

You'll need more than one if you want to make power on an engine that big.

[@InternalCombustion]

*I plan on making another video of TorqAmp again in two weeks at SEMA 2019. What questions should I ask them?*

[@MrFredscrap]

Do they see upcoming competition now that Garrett announced today it's going to start Electric Turbo production in 2021?

[@Turbogto_guy]

All fluff and flair. Being an experienced turbo guy I notice one important thing, the inlet side of the compressor is so small that it will choke anything except small, low power 4 cylinders. He needs to do this on a 78mm housing instead. The upper end HP May increase if that motor is strong enough. So ask him when he’s going to move up to larger housings.

[@allanb3222]

@Mopar pilot They have a Dyno video of them using it on an is200.

[@InternalCombustion]

Yessir! kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGPXp3x7n5Z4jcU

[@dahorseman2654]

dont support their horrible product. Its impossible for this improve the efficiency with any noticeable amount. Just to make my point look at the graphs they provided. They're a perfect example of misleading graphs. The one for the subaru actually shows it makes a very negligible difference for a short time just off idle, but yet still doesn't actually decrease spool time. I did engineering work for one of these companie as a college thesis. I promise you they are 100% bullshit. Also all their pressure readings arent actually done from am actual boost gauge they are done from the map sensor, which is easily affected by numerous outside factors. After midway through the rpm range the "torqamp" becomes a giant restriction in the intake,and when the battery dies it becomes a giant restriction.

[@thedruidzmademe666]

obviously this tech is still relatively new and barely on the cusp of practicality but man the possibilities this tech presents as electric applications in cars evolves is what makes this concept so interesting

[@anthonyhenderson2641]

I saw a guy do it with an alternator like in 08

[@ItMeZumn]

Audi is already using it

[@hightiernub1313]

Audi and Porche and F1 had been using this concept since 2016. It's just that it's becoming more mainstream amongst automakers. The fact that you can have an electric turbo is interesting because it's the fact that you can isolate the entire ICE system to stay mechanical as an ICE without having to input an electric motor into the drive shaft or transmission in anyway. It's seemless and efficient.

[@johno9507]

0:32 "Increase your manifold pressure by 6psi or 1.4Bar" But 1.4 Bar is equal to 20.3psi?

[@BlueWaterRedBlood]

John O that was the moment I knew this was probably bullshit.

[@camtheman2005]

Atmospheric pressure is 1 bar which is 14.7psi, so the rest is above atmosphere which is a positive pressure (boost) but boost pressure really depends on how much cfm it can pump into an engine and how much the motor consumes. This is why the turbine needs to spin faster when the motor spins faster... probably makes 6psi on a motor idling, but at high rpm can't keep up and just causes a restriction

[@CBTalon97]

1.4 Bar absolute pressure which includes 14.7psi (1 Bar) atmospheric pressure. 6 psi is about 0.4 Bar.

[@Kfugoso]

he's referring to "Absolute Atmospheric Pressure"

[@TorqAmp]

@@Kfugoso kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZLCe2WObZ2Ziac will gain also performance at the high rpm's

[@papapetad]

I really like the idea of this but anyone using electric motors in serious performance applications is coupling them directly to the driveline, not driving air pumps. This is a cute little torque filler and it is very badly presented. 6psi sounds like a lot. Surely instead of bringing a fancy V12 with no data and boob stickers, they should show a K20 honda with 6psi turbo dyno chart vs 6psi torqamp chart...

[@kaipos8601]

6psi is 6psi...

[@cesartoledo5621]

I concur papapetad.

[@ja001son]

I see it as a great option for sub 2.5L engines, Ive been considering one for my BRZ, price wise the TA is about half what most other SC and turbo options are and that's not taking into account the install time/cost. Its something I could probably install and tune in one day.

[@cesartoledo5621]

It was offensive, with lab coats and “the Prop”, (Gorgeous Aston Martin Engine) took it to a level of “clown” worthiness. I am not trying to knock the product. I was doing the research to see if it was the next Toy to add to an engine. Unfortunately it is more likely to harm a engine , rather than to boost horsepower. There is already an awesome system on the market, only another $1500.00, to $2000.00 bucks more , the procharger… only one man that I saw videos he built his own electric blow dryer. Good luck guys.

[@papapetad]

@@patrickdufresne8485 Nothing against the tech. It just needs some proper apples to apples here and again, performance applications optimize electric motor torque by coupling them directly to drivelines instead of turbos although F1's apparently use hybrid turbos, integrating a motor within the turbo structure to help with spool until exhaust gasses push them enough. It's a different take on it and it has to take into account the absolute limits of vehicle mass with regards to battery banks and such. For more classic applications, it seems much more logical to have a "normal" turbo making use of exhaust gasses with motors coupled to drivelines. That way, they can achieve torque filling while allowing for big power addition with mass being less of an issue. It helps with weight distribution too since the big electric motors are mounted ideally.

[@apacheone3643]

I would like to see a Dyno test in A CONTROLLED DYNO ROOM WITH THIRD PARTY CONFORMATION LIKE FROM MOTOR TREND.

[@bman1668]

CRAZY HORSEPOWER that fake c8 numbers ?

[@apacheone3643]

@@bman1668 I guess you did not watch the whole video and how a Engine is Dyno (SAE) to what motor trend did using a different scale (SCH Standard correct HP) on a chassis dyno from what a manufacturer does with the Society of engineers.I know there is no way that car in a natural aspirate configuration is putting out more than its Counterpart the LT4 which is blown.But it would not make a difference in what dyno is used as long as we see before and after tests on the same day at nearly identical engine and ambient temperatures.

[@TorqAmp]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZLCe2WObZ2Ziac independent test of the TORQAMP

[@apacheone3643]

@@lililililililili8667 So me the link.

[@apacheone3643]

@@lililililililili8667 I watch the video this is not a accurate test this is my response. So this test is not good as you admitted to fuel being only 89 octane then you jump up to a higher fuel octane and ethanol fuel mid test. You need to use the same fuel throughout your test.Plus you cannot accurately get ideal numbers as the time to change the fuel change you ambient temperatures and humidity. I am not saying there was no increase in HP AND TORQUE as there was but your numbers are not accurate.Also you did the test without a air filter which also compromised your test as IT IS NOT REAL WORLD NUMBERS.Secondly you demonstrated it is a restriction on the engine when not in use.

[@cobalt0681]

I bet this would be great on a sportbike.

[@Republican_Extremest]

The power supply is too big and the torq amp needs improvement it has a magnetic clutch and untill you force enough air through it your actually fighting against it. I'd say it would be more practical for those with stock turbo set ups to reduce lag specifically.

[@apowell9848]

Fighting against the engine at idle/cruising speeds can be solved with a solenoid valve on an alternate loop. And there's zero reason the model can't be scaled down. The power supply doesn't look huge either. It'll fit in a rear bag.

[@fillhall4774]

These work really well on my suv. But I wouldn’t recommend for a bike because the battery is big and heavy I don’t know where you would put on a bike.

[@jjs777fzr]

Lots of potential here.

[@InternalCombustion]

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[@la-ia1404]

I put two Dyson hair dryers on my motors' intake and oh man does she scream. We dyno tested it and this 4 cylinder motor is pumping out 1,000 HP. The reason behind this is cause of Dyson's revolutionary cyclone technology.

[@uvraise]

I'm not a motorhead by any stretch, but I do know about NA combustion engines. All these comments stating this is a gimmick, clearly don't know the basics of an internal combustion engine.

[@ChrisCamaro]

It's not a gimmick per se. But it is vastly inadequate for the types of motors they're mentioning in the video. They ARE lying about its capabilities. It would be a better suited product for a Honda Civic or similarly sized car.

[@jche64]

Don't be a dipshit sir.

[@thesquirrelchroniclesakare7808]

All that thing needs is a super capacitor... Big gains and zero strain on your charging system !

[@SuperGokuSon]

Absolutely build a large super capacitor bank in the trunk and All your power problems poof as far as charging discharging is concerned with no temp fluctuation problems ether. Look into maxiell 3000 farad supercapacitor Bank. This system will comprise of 6 2.7 or 2.8 volt 3000 farad capacitors they need to be in conjunction with one or two car batteries it will help with the instant shock and or initial drawl of voltage from the electric motor. What this also does is it helps keep your alternator from getting such a jolt from trying to initialize and put power out instantly this lessens the wear and tear on your alternator. This will also keep the voltage inside your vehicle consistent you will not have any voltage drops.

[@hoser20000]

Put an impeller on the exhaust at the rear of the car and use it drive a small generator that loads up a super cap pack. Turbo efficiency without the complicated under hood plumbing and heat issues!

[@williamvaughan1218]

@Spiderman low resistance supercapacitors... I cannot think of a larger strain on a car alternator aside from a dead short to ground.

[@denarauch7646]

It only really seems to help with turbo lag but it’s a great concept keep going boys

[@james8662]

Guys commenting many couldn't even install a spark plug correct for a boost system. Better than a street turbo because of heat. Might make a good trunk mount system. A 110 volt leaf blower would psi an engine up if you could power it. No power loss like other superchargers or belt problems

[@TorqAmp]

@Max Power Please check kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZLCe2WObZ2Ziac

[@BigInjun05]

Remember, it's not just psi, its also cfm.

[@CBTalon97]

18lbs/min at 1.15 bar and 5lbs/min at 1.4 bar. It's not insignificant and explains the large torque gains down low on the 350z.

[@robvoyles]

Exactly! Volume! it created about 75 extra hp at 6lbs of boost. very impressive.

[@bisken6547]

I saw a youtube channel (don't remember whom) tested this thing and gained about 25% hp and torque and it was very noticable

[@ks_hunter7327]

He linked them in the description

[@james8662]

Believe me folks, I am an engineer of different internal combustion components. I design and redesign products on the market for cutting edge out of the box designs you would see in classified areas of racing teams like Indy Nascar F1 Top fuel and street vehicles. With these electric superchargers you are looking at the future of boost to come. I am 57 and my father is 83 a brilliant electrical engineer from Brown, a savant. He ran one of the biggest electrical dept's in industry 40yrs. I showed him this video and he was totally impressed amazed interested. Just so happens he has an Infinity G35X he loves with the 350Z engine. Those 3.5's are bad ass and with this TorqAmp setup believe me most cars on the street will be in the rear view because they are now. I think these are the cutting edge of the future.

[@TorqAmp]

Show your dad this video ;) kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZLCe2WObZ2Ziac

[@TorqAmp]

@First Last check the bypass we made for large massflow engines torqamp.com/bypass/ For partially throttle its no problem that the TorqAmp is there because even if there is a pressure drop over the compressor this will be compensated by the throttle valve. A pressure drop is a mandatory thing in the intake of gasoline engines.

[@etothee5339]

I've been talking about an electric supercharger for years! Finally happening, makes me happy!

[@TorqAmp]

Check this out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZLCe2WObZ2Ziac

[@4g63gen1]

With brushless motor tech, we can see 30 psi in the future as long as there is a big capacitor, lipo battery and some kind of additional charging solution. Very promising, I commend this fellow in trying to develop this.

[@InternalCombustion]

YES! There is serious potential when done right. Unfortunately electric turbo/superchargers get a bad rap simply because of all the 12v intake fans that are sold on ebay.

[@Joelontugs]

Shows you a v12 gives you the specs on 4 cylinder lol

[@bobmcnelis3648]

Why not use capacitors with this, to increase the electrical power. It’s only a short time frame

[@InternalCombustion]

Good question! I hope trorqamp replies. I would think they would need to be some very powerful supercapacitors even for enough juice for a 10 second burst but I could be wrong. Also theres the safety factory. I’ve heard of capacitors from a television stopping your heart if handled improperly.

[@dirankoroghlian4202]

So am I to assume , this unit is not a progressive with the fuel pedal ? Only works at on or off ? What about a relief valve , bypass , blow off valuing ? I've always wondered about electric boosting. He also said 70 to 80 thousand RPM , and more if special spec ' ed. I'm looking in my Procharger catalog and Specs listing and not seeing anyone of thier F series all out racing from the F- 1D to the F-4x-144 and they peak at 74,000 rpm. So I think his # 's a bit ambitious. I like it anyway

[@Slipthemote]

idk man, but i did see the cleetus video on these and it seems to be a bit of both on the introduction of pressure to the motor, my assumption is that they just went with a switch as on their website they advertise it differently, they advertise it as an ecu tune that introduces it slowly to max. but im unsure as i can't find these on many cars. but i do see a reason for electric turbos as they are much easier to install than normal turbos, plus you don't need as much plumbis as at the end of the day it's eletrically ran. remember that normal turbos are ran off exhaust gases, so they need a blow off valve, whilst many eletric turbos work on both, torqamp basically removes the working on both and is fully electric so it does seem reasonable, but i doubt it will be as good as other eletric turbos you can buy.

[@clacla5988]

Its a good item people, considering how easy it is without piping and relying on exhaust pressure. with a push of a button you can get boost. Its gonna be crazy if you put it on a sleeper

[@zackzittel7683]

Exactly. I have a completely stock looking K24 swapped civic and if I can even get half of the claimed 20% it would be worth it. Idk if I wanna boost it permanently. Been there done that. Everybody is tryin to race you in traffic.

[@etothee5339]

@EngineeringExplained this is what I've been talking about!

[@becauseoffreedom]

Is it water proof?

[@Drunken_Hamster]

They should be able to run 15KW motor on these things. Standard 48V lithium batteries come it at 30,000 mah. And at only 10c, that would be 300 amps of draw continuous from them. 300 amps times 48 volts is 14,400 watts, or 14.4KW I just rounded up because in the world of RC cars and stuff, 10c is incredibly low. Especially if we're talking about race drone batteries, which can hit 50c to 100c ratings on the batteries and withstand assloads of current draw. For reference, that would mean 144kw on the 48 volt 30,000 mah battery if it was built to the same c rating as the craziest race drone batteries. 144kw is equal to 193HP. Whereas even the basic 15KW is 20HP.

[@chriskelvin248]

THIS is the new anti-lag for the street! Of course, nothing is as simple as just that, but this seems like it has compact packaging and existing technology going for it. Could even smaller and lighter super capacitors take the place of the battery unit, especially if it only comes online in low rpm, WOT situations. TorqAmp supported by next-gen JB-4!

[@cesarpalmos8235]

Alot of major companies like Audi are already doing this with their turbos

[@TheEsseboy]

But they are not selling third party kits.

[@myvideosrockthehouse]

I bet its 6 psi at idle and near vacuum at red line...

[@ks_hunter7327]

Essentially they are an electric supercharger without parasitic drag.

[@flyonbyya]

Wonder if they have a compressor maps? They need to make bigger units and higher boost !

[@jgedutis]

It's nice to see the Netherlands isn't scared to advertise with books

[@curtishill6490]

I've seen a video where this worked well and was easy to install!! They also installed two side by side and sequential ( more boost side by side

[@Mastermindyoung14]

Cfm? Should put a CVT on it to improve top end

[@christophercarson3143]

I have been saying this for some time now but anyone who thinks that a standard old set up on turbo or supercharger will beat these is wrong. Not this one but in 5 years plus mechanical ones will be useless. Technology moves faster than mechanical engineering. I say that with a heavy heart as I'm useless with computers and electronics but great with engines but it's true. I also don't have a problem with it. I just know in the future what I do will be classed as old school and will come nowhere near that. But I'm fine with it too. Good luck to the people building these and proving people wrong.

[@etothee5339]

I completely agree with you. The next several years will prove incredibly interesting as far as electric motor driven forced induction. Hopefully we start seeing twin electric superchargers, capable of running 20+ psi into a 5.0L like the coyote motor. Complete with a quality intercooler and superconductors to power the turbine wheels. Instantaneous boost, increased drivability and power across the board. And hopefully they only get cheaper with time! I'm very excited to see the effect this has on all facets of the ICE industry. Imagine the potential for diesel motors. EGT monitoring will be a thing of the past and engines will be capable of much leaner running parameters, 50, 60, even 70:1 air/fuel ratios! Massive power capabilities coupled with extremely fuel efficient, low rpm cruising. As a power stoke and mustang owner I am very excited for the future.

[@consciouscool]

Turbos are basically free energy. Belt driven Superchargers are a different ball game parasitic loss is huge at high hp. Not turbos.

[@2000freefuel]

I'd like to see this product setup as a compounding turbo configuration.

[@TheEsseboy]

He talked about that, you can boost an existing turbo with this to decrease turbolag and increase boost pressure.

[@StraightOutThaGudda4U]

Cletus did it on his channel on the cobalt, it actually works pretty damm good

[@2000freefuel]

@@StraightOutThaGudda4U cool now on the Cummings!

[@StraightOutThaGudda4U]

@@2000freefuel hell yeah brother

[@jarontrujillo4422]

Only for racing application only boost PSI 30 real test intake manifold pressure

[@danielyoungman9206]

Looks like a huge restriction if you ask me

[@griplimit]

Because it is. This thing most likely lowers engine performance.

[@fpbibi]

I think it's possible to make it spin to match engine need, but you need management with MAF or MAP or throttle body position sensor. As is it would be a restriction. A valve that switches from turbo to n/a is possible too. Like a cut out exhaust

[@TheRamGuy]

How is 6psi equal to 1.4 bar??? Sounds fishy

[@TheMattc999]

Shawn Clark 35% more torque sounds even more fishy. On a turbocharged engine at that??? So a turbocharged 427 stroker that's making 800lbs ft is all the sudden going to make 1100lbs ft??? Yeah fkn right.

[@TheRamGuy]

@@TheMattc999 yeah this whole thing sounds like a scam. In theory it should work but when the guy representing the products equates 6lbs of boost to 1.4 bar which is actually a little over 20lbs he clearly doesn't know shit and is trying to misrepresent its performance. I would like to know how many CFM it flows

[@fox-body]

Shawn Clark 1.4 bar total. Don’t forget your starting with 1 bar of vacuum.

[@SuperBigNye]

he was saying 6psi per one and there where two and every ten psi is a bar. if you paused when they had the graph up it said 7.5lbs of boost made so he was probably just estimating it would make 1.4bar with two on that motor

[@augurelite]

6 psi gauge is equal to 14.7+6 psi absolute. Which equals 1.4 bar.

[@VR6_SKC]

The motor would need cooling and some sort of lubrication, I get its brushless but its going too get hot for a long time not like a rc plane

[@TheEsseboy]

The motors have temp sensors, and it has ball bearings, not a lot of friction. The engines are good to about 100 celsius and have an integrated fan in the back of the housing to cool the coils.

[@arthur88888888888888]

I can't wait this technology gets cheaper.

[@lindsaymcpherson4744]

This is formula one tech been used for a while now , could be switched on just like a nitrous kit !! Great idea guys --

[@cencoast_7.340]

Here's an engine with our products...no we haven't ran it though

[@TorqAmp]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZLCe2WObZ2Ziac

[@TechWizMaster]

Would this work on a honda civic 2.0L non turbo engine? anybody tried this before?

[@bmanclassics4350]

Yeah bro it'll work but even if u buy twins realize it only make 6psi of boost

[@siegfriedveneman8771]

Will this Electric turbo work on a big CID motor 540 CID 10:24

[@gustiable]

i think im going buy one no lie i might just buy because it’s easier to install it

[@DAMC122]

me too, for my rx8...what about you?

[@quevicular]

YOU WOULD HAVE TO UPGRADE THE ALTERNATOR AND POSSIBLY A DUAL BATTERY SYSTEM, NO??

[@nszngaming9372]

Tri battery system. 2 24 volt boat batteries and a 12v battery for your regular engine

[@joshuaday3980]

I'm assuming you didn't watch the video because it shows the controller and separate battery and charging box that comes with it?

[@jamesrobin9961]

I just wonder about “duty cycle” and load along with lubrication?

[@jamesmancine8350]

So basically it's a 2,500 dollar leaf blower.

[@DeeJaySuave]

YUP!

[@Shorty15c4007]

Not as much power as a traditional turbo but it looks much more easier to install and maintain. Looks like a great option for daily drivers.

[@robertharrison2116]

So I guess we'd have to buy it and do our own testing

[@TorqAmp]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZLCe2WObZ2Ziac Check out this independent test

[@boltonky]

Great video, and they do and have been around for ages its just technology in relation to DC Motors or Inverted motors has now become small and powerful enough to run charged setups without to many other problems. What's interesting is a prototype one ive seen that is a Turbo but has a DC powered motor in the middle housing...its basically designed to allow spool up but with no power loss until exhaust can power compressor fast enough. All this because they are scared of 120 year technology called electric cars haha

[@mplewp]

sadly they restrict intake air when they dont turn. you need to keep this behind a butterflyvalve than this has potential.

[@vincenttang1171]

They have bypass valves on the site

[@thecouchtraveler]

It always amuses me to hear a dutch person speak english and try to be "fluent" at it. Myself included.

[@Andy-df5fj]

Why do all electric superchargers utilize the insanely high rpm requiring turbo style blowers instead of a roots style blower that would be easier for an electric motor to reach the ideal rpms?

[@InternalCombustion]

More efficient, less heat, less weight etc

[@keredrellit3992]

That would be handy on my 22re. It needs a bit of extra power every now and then when off-roading.

[@michaelelizondo7888]

To be fair they show it right in the graphs and he says the truth. The gains are all in the lower end to normal peaks. 95% of people want to see peak gains, so if they see a low end performance increase they dont really see it because it didnt take the engine from 200hp to 250hp or whatever the numbers are. These guys are saying I can help you increase the shitty low end performance of your lazy engine and give your motor a restriction at the top end. This is why it wont make it big in america. If we are gonna spend our hard earned money on it, that shit better pin you to the seat.

[@gsturnerjr]

Or better yet, you then have wheel spin in the mid range. McFarland had that issue during his road test. This is a low rpm boost for small displacement(.)

[@evronetwork]

Why not have a supercapacitor? and use the electric supercharger for reducing turbo lag - not always/constant boost

[@InternalCombustion]

good question!

[@TheEsseboy]

Super capacitors weighs 10 times more per unit of energy stored, lithium polymers deliver enough power and can be charged at 4-10 C (meaning in 6-15min to full charge) What would ve interesting is a Super capacitors bank in addition to dump a lot of regenerative energy into, but that would weigh a lot and cost thousands of dollars.

[@evronetwork]

I know but as said ...for a few seconds! so not huge as you say - I do have btw 3x 16.2v 83.333F capacitors(250F total) for my car, to help start/stop system and also have less strain on the battery

[@TheEsseboy]

@@evronetwork You would still need about 12 time more capacitance to keep it at a high enough voltage to drive the motor, or a fancy expensive voltage booster that is expensive in the 5 KW range.

[@slckb0y65]

not an engineer by any means, but have you guys thought about Hybrid turbo chargers ? meaning using the exhaust as a normal turbo but with an electric engine spinning it on top at low RPM ? that would solve turbo lag and don't decrease peak power compared to the normal version, along with adding pretty minimum weight

[@NotCaily]

it would be hot af tho

[@slckb0y65]

@@NotCaily well you can put the electric engine on the intake side, just spinning the shaft of the turbo itself

[@NotCaily]

oops i should of known

[@lindsaymcpherson4744]

Formula 1 race cars already use this technology the applications to our Streeters and race cars is unlimited !! Turn them on when you want them just like a nitrous kit !!

[@08halit]

you would need free spinning turbine when not powered by brushless Dc/Ac motor, for the battery to spinn it and for the exhaust gasses to later take over or else the dc motor will be a restriction on the shaft because of the magnets

[@gyffjogofl7676]

23 to 28 percent more power but we didn't actually have it dynoed.

[@TorqAmp]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZLCe2WObZ2Ziac

[@gyffjogofl7676]

@@TorqAmp people really need to watch that link! I am impressed!

[@TorqAmp]

@@gyffjogofl7676 Thanks :D

[@christopherlenahan3906]

mercedes diesels had a pre-turbo electric compressor for lag reduction, but was bypassed as soon as full boost was made. Funnily enough, once the turbo bearings started leaking in later life the oil drip down the inlet pipe and shorted out the e-compressors control board..2000dollars to replace or a 99cent resistor to bypass and remove it.

[@anthonyhenderson2641]

I remember a guy using an alternator like in 08

[@Hamza-or7jm]

This is sooo ridiculous. Wow this video made my day.

[@PotatoeJoe69]

I can't see this working on anything bigger than 3L. Cletus Mcfarland was only able to get 5psi out of it on a 4 cylinder cobalt and it decreases as rpm increased because of vacuum, so I honestly can't see this working on a bigger engine. Maybe it would help at low rpms but at higher rpms i feel like it will do nothing. It might even restrict airflow.

[@jafferm1938]

Probably true. They even put two on it and it only made 5 psi at the top of the rpm range. Maybe if they were bigger and had more flow theyd work. There is a couple people who have turned prochargers or vortex superchargers into electric instead of belt driven. those work bevause theyre so big and can spin up and move a lot of air.

[@carlitoandsandraadventures1192]

True. This is good for something like my Elantra 1.8L.

[@VicTor-gi7so]

Just needs a fresh. Air diverter.

[@josephdupont]

Why not put this o. An airplane?

[@InternalCombustion]

It would definitely help performance at high altitude!

[@quonyoung1280]

Yea that's the ticket

[@Republican_Extremest]

Funny at high altitude the air is less up there which is why they fly so high to reduce the amount of fuel being used. How would a torq amp help an airplane.

[@cameronhuber8339]

it would work but its not really designed for continuous use like that. I'd talk with torqamp about the power usage before slapping one on an airplane

[@mhillenaar]

Goed bezig gasten... indien jullie een test car nodig hebben, bied ik mijn 2018 TTRS aan. 😉

[@thesquirrelchroniclesakare7808]

Maxwell and XS Batteries make great Supercapacitor's

[@InternalCombustion]

Yea the blue ones? I’ve heard those are the best

[@thesquirrelchroniclesakare7808]

Their able to hold lots of volts and then release them instantly. Charges quick... Would be a great compliment to that turbo system !

[@InternalCombustion]

lots of volts?

[@thesquirrelchroniclesakare7808]

@@InternalCombustion ...Amps my bad

[@cunninglycalculated4583]

I was looking online at the life span of a lithium polymer battery like the one included in this kit and i found that average battery life is 2-3 years. What's the warranty on the battery included in this kit and how much would it cost to replace if not covered by a warranty?

[@jacquesb5248]

sure bank of supercaps would work better here

[@cameronhuber8339]

warranty is 1 year

[@NomadicSociety]

wow he knows his stuff

[@joelducsai5400]

He said 1.4 bar or 6 psi .... 1.4 bar is 20psi.... , 1 bar is 14.7 psi.... sooo what is true...., I watched cleetus McFarland and it made 5 psi n fell down to 2 psi on a gm 2.2 ecotec because a v8 would've bn harder to push it made 17% hp increase

[@khathn4200]

I came here after the same video bro 😆

[@FYC0069]

It would be 20 psi if you’re measuring absolute pressure (gage pressure plus atm)

[@MenofValueSpeaks]

After continually tuning they got the power up to a 27% increase.

[@madmod]

Natural air pressure should be assumed in the measurement.

[@johndc2998]

1 bar being atmosphere so .4

[@ThePaulv12]

This electric supercharger needs a bypass flap arrangement similar to a DDEC Detroit Diesel Silver series 2 stroke. In that system turbo boost pressure overcomes the spring in the flap inside the blower when the turbo spools up. The problem as I see it in this system is when the supercharger is switched off. Any motor has to suck through the small supercharger intake and in so doing it has to rotate the compressor causing unnecessary rotation (and therefore wear) of the compressor wheel bearing, as well as naturally aspirated restriction. To more fully evolve this system, a bypass flap arrangement could be incorporated into the actual supercharger. A good idea but needs work.

[@revvvrand]

Cleetus McFarland just tested this and that happened to him. Search the video on here.

[@pickles9774]

Right on.. Message Torqamp. They are very receptive to input like this. Good post.

[@youthteenager2407]

This is to IQ smart for me lol... At first I thought you were just saying big words.. Apparently not.. lol

[@billchristy1935]

How does this no kill your alternator?

[@matthewmuniz8520]

Dude just pulling numbers out of his butt

[@malcommooney8086]

right on

[@ChristianPerez-xd8zq]

I want it where can i buy it?? Someone plz lmk where i can buy this!!! I cant find anything

[@flyonbyya]

Another reason you wouldn’t intercool…. 6psi won’t generate an appreciable amt of heat…even if it was an exhaust driven turbo

[@tipthescales24]

Wait so it’s more expensive the. Normal boost and it’s not as good ????

[@cameronhuber8339]

you save a lot of time and money with easy installation and minimal fabrication. also good on resale value of the car because its easy to uninstall. more money - less headache.

[@faaaaq]

It would be less than $2400 for everything you need, and unless you aren't at all handy, like an hour to install (assuming you dont need to reprogram your computer)

[@ponleduderacing2802]

Cletus McFarland bought one very similar or maybe the same unit with negative results. It may work well on a very small engine.

[@danny-vb8bg]

My only problem with that video was that it was only powered by the cars battery. The phantom electric super charger needed few batteries and even then that thing only produced like 2psi maybe. So I was curious if that thing had a better motor and power supply of it would actually work. Given the cost of this thing though they need a legit Dyno graph. It's like 6x the cost of the one cleedus did lol

[@fredg8199]

Yeah. A Chinese 12 volt supercharger. This is a 48 volt with a controller and auxiliary battery.

[@TorqAmp]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZLCe2WObZ2Ziac

[@cesartoledo5621]

🤭My goodness, Using a legendary engine as a prop for the intake boosters was completely irresponsible . Whoever called the shot on that one has gone mad😵‍💫, straight up. You’re at 🙏SEMA!!! 🤬🤦🤬, get it together , if you’re all serious about this product.

[@hubertbelanger4439]

Is it me or sema2019 didn't happen yet?

[@04foxxsake]

he said 2018

[@dannymac7852]

It says 2018 on his badge

[@ioannischerouveim7239]

I build battery packs for years. This lipo battery is not going to last for long time. My suggestion is to build a new battery pack by using more 18650 or 21700 high power cells.

[@Best_Chuansatien]

Torque amp boost last only 4 minutes with 7.2kg lipo battery (48v 25A)

[@ioannischerouveim7239]

@@Best_Chuansatien 25A is not a very high current. It can be delivered easily with lithium batteries as well. Lipo batteries have a very short Life most of them.

[@CaniLupine]

Would be great for small underpowered cars. I'd love to have 1-2 PSI in my Mirage.

[@johnnyxiong4968]

I want one, easy install easy take out! ❤️👍

[@TheObserver567]

Does not work on big engines. Not enough cfm or rpm.

[@UAVier]

THIS IS NICE!

[@obtrunco]

Pretty awesome.

[@whocares5188]

Ya but factory sti can run 20psi so why would i go to 5psi? Make it hit 20psi and talk to me

[@ragnarfoxtrot4622]

i think 30 psi max should be the standard.

[@madmod]

Boost is a measurement of restriction to some point. With how small that electric compressor is any positive pressure is impressive and surprising. For your Subaru, also being a small turbine, it has no problem creating high boost pressures. On the other end, that same turbo would have troubles holding even 10lbs on my small v8 because all boost tells is how much a volume of air is being restricted. If the blower overcomes vaccum, even if it only makes 1psi, pumping losses are being improved and power is being made. Now is it worth the money? I can buy a Gen V m90 for 65$ and kill this thing for the money but that's apples to oranges.

[@whocares5188]

@@madmod i agree its cool. . And if this could be improved to do 15psi on a v8 is would be worth 5k to many ppl.

[@madmod]

@@whocares5188 Consider the fact that my v8 will make 450-500rwhp at or below 10psi. If two of those compressors could move the volume to hold 10psi to redline, it would make a ton of power. You can't focus just on the boost number. A gt25 at 10psi vs a s480 at 10psi is a difference in airflow to support over 250 more hp with the s480 at the same boost level.

[@TheEsseboy]

Put two in series and you will get 14 psi, add a third and you have 37.

[@Elaba_]

You can talk really well in English. Good luck with the startup.

[@finster7582]

Strap on a leafblower and lets gooooooooooo...

[@TheEsseboy]

What leafblower has aluminium tight tolerans compressors? Leafblowers typicly make only 1-2 psi.

[@trashy10]

we were much to busy making claims,to have time to actually show proof,...um why not bring the 2 liter eng and the results then?

[@TorqAmp]

hereby an independent test: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZLCe2WObZ2Ziac

[@KingMercyless]

I have a 1999 Mitsubishi Galant with the 4g63 in it (16 Valve, 4 cylinder, SOHC), cold air intake on it, could this work for my car?

[@InternalCombustion]

I don’t see why not. Give torqamp a call!

[@KonKrom]

wait is 4g63 DOHC at least it was in mitsubishi eclipse

[@richystar2001]

How does it activate? Is it on all the time?

[@imnottellinudontwannaknow3188]

its a button and it has variable power control

[@morningsideable]

How do these work on a track situation where you're full throttle a lot of tne time. Or would the alternator take more of the load? Instead of tbe battery bank.

[@InternalCombustion]

I’ll let torqamp respond but someone else that has one told me for every second you use it, it spends 10 seconds charging

[@vincenttang1171]

Internal Combustion it also has a 10 minute total runtime without charging.

[@orlandojohnson5742]

Interesting! I saw cobalt Cleetus testing one of these as well! A dual mount prob does work better on larger engines V8-V10 etc!

[@Mike21127]

I just looked at their site. 16-22 weeks shipping to US. Anyone making similar in the US?

[@jamesrobin9961]

Its a small new starting company...if you want a good product, you gotta be patient for now...good things come to those who wait!

[@dcxSpartan117]

Cfm matters just as much as how much psi these add. If you ad intercoolers and in turn more resistance for air these will not work as well.

[@outkast187]

The air doesnt get as hot as turbo, so it doesnt need it.

[@TheEsseboy]

@First Last Turbos have heat comming in from the turbine, so they typicly run a lot hotter at the same boost.