Torque TANK M1 vs Xebex XT3 Sled - ‘Silent’ Weight Sled Showdown!

[@GetRxd]

Few things we wanted to mention: 1) We recently released the XT3 Plus model, which uses 12 magnets instead of the original XT3 which uses 8 magnets. This increases the top-end resistance up to 50%, making it have the highest resistance of any 3-wheeled sled. We also have a retrokit available for purchase for original XT3 users who want to update their sled to the higher resistance of the XT3 Plus model 2) The console does rotate 180 degrees, so you can view the console from either end of the sled 3) Our XT3 and XT3 Plus Sled has the ability to attach a harness from the back, 2-wheel side. Attaching from the back, 2-wheel side is a feature only our sled has, and also keeps the front wheel in contact with ground better than attaching from the front, regardless of attachment point height

[@seabreezeof]

What kind of maintenance is required. Like to know a little more on the mechanical end of things (chain & magnets) , if an issue arises.

[@GetRxd]

@@seabreezeof maintenance includes tightening bolts if any become loose, keeping all 3 tires inflated at 35 PSI, and lubricating the chain if needed. The chain can be accessed by just standing the XT3 or XT3 Plus sled vertically (like when you're storing it), then use a tooth brush to apply chain oil to the chain. Make sure to rotate the tire so that the chain will be moving and you can apply chain oil to the entire chain As of mid August 2023, all XT3+ Plus Sleds have been updated to ship with solid rubber tires (instead of air-inflatable tires). So now, you no longer need to worry about inflating or maintaining tire pressure and best of all, the solid rubber tire will never pop. It takes many many miles to wear down the solid rubber tire which means it'll last over 10x as long as the previous air-inflatable tires! Hope it helps!

[@TimBarnesPolygonPerformance]

@@GetRxd Do you have direct suppliers in Australia for the XT3 Plus, and what is the RRP?

[@charlieteena]

And that's why I just purchased XT3 Plus over instead of the M1

[@GetRxd]

@@charlieteena You'll love it! Let us know your thoughts once you receive it!

[@joshreis8672]

You missed one feature on the Xebex. It has anchor points at the rear for pulling that overcome the issue of the front tire being lifted during the backwards pulls. This seems to be a feature everyone overlooks. I’ve been using mine for several months and love it.

[@GetRxd]

Good point @josh reis 😊

[@DeSilver215]

Can also just wrap strap around the high handles and pull backwards

[@xebexfitness]

Great observation : )

[@JT-mf6ey]

I have an M1 and absolutely love it. I looked for months and finally found a barely used on for $550 with a wall hanger. Great deal. I would compare this equipment to my Echo bike. Both very well designed, tremendous pieces of torture equipment! I do experience some sliding on the front M1 tire yet I haven’t tried loading weight plates on it yet.

[@johnsodx]

My treadmill, like a lot of them, can adjust its speed and slope to maintain a designated heart rate, when used with a heart-rate monitor. I use this feature all the time. Since the Xebex can connect to a heart-rate monitor, they could design one that would automatically adjust the resistance to maintain a designated heart rate, similar to what the treadmills do. Might be a good selling point for a lot of people. Shouldn’t be too expensive, since they already have the most of the needed hardware in place.

[@MiddleAgedMisfit]

As someone who has a home gym in a pretty small space and lives in an area with cold weather, I think a look at "sledmill" options would be more relevant than this comparison.

[@double_j3867]

You know of anything in that category

[@MiddleAgedMisfit]

@@double_j3867 Not that is commercially intended to be used that way. But apparently there are some flywheel based treadmills that can be modified to fit the bill. I have not yet tried it myself.

[@NPow94]

As someone who owns the M1 I can say that it is not great if you only have a small amount of space to use. My workout space allows for roughly 20 feet distance and I find that it is hard to get an adequate cardio burn by push and pull. This is partly due to the fact that you really only get decent resistance at sprints, but you also need much more space to achieve both a burn and high resistance. Because of all these things I ended up splurging for a rogue dog sled which has proven to be a far better tool with my small space. Hopefully this helps someone in the same situation.

[@santosMikeyramos]

Thanks I was wondering about that, I only have like 15 feet In my garage. One of these would be good for doing outside workout.

[@brandonsaysthings]

I live in a typical sub division and i go out my garage into my driveway and then the extra 15 feet to the otherside of the road (as there is little traffic in my sub division) I find that is a good workout to pull all the way down and then push back. however, I also have a long sidewalk as I live in a subdivision, so i just take it about 150-200 yards down that and return. and that is tough when you do 5-10 laps with minimal breaks in between.

[@andreawilson6887]

Life sucks if you live anywhere that doesn’t have sunny weather a LOT of the year…..

[@TheTennisCompany]

I've always questioned if the smaller M1 or XT3 would have enough resistance. I was lucky enough to try out a M1 Tank for a week. It's no joke especially if your lifting lifestyle is built around function training. I decided to purchase the XT3 Plus, on sale for $770 with free shipping. Even though the M1 is lighter than the XT3 (70/100 lbs) my wife prefers the standup storage option compared to removing the unit from a wall hanger. The M1 front bar has a higher attachment point which helps keep the wheel on the ground when pulling. Simply fix.. we added a $7 Home Depot carabiner velcro strap to the top of the bar. One feature that is never talked about in any of the videos I watched is the wheel barrel option for simply moving the unit around. In our case from the garage to the street or to the backyard. The M1 can also be rolled but in our situation but we really like the wheel barrel option.

[@CaptCanuck4444]

I have the Tank M1 and use it regularly. More than i thought i would. It's fun and adds variety. It's key to put weight on the peg though, for it to perform reliably. I leave 90lbs on mine.

[@ninjastrongman28]

I was able to get an XT3 at launch for 15% off and pick up local, so it was a no brainer for me. One perk is the xdrive handles allow you to shove a Pathfinder Ion Bluetooth speaker in perfectly, we did a several mile relay through the neighborhood to the local coffee shop and a cantina and it was like a party on wheels (all the neighbors were confused/impressed). you can easily add an eyelet to the top of the hoop on the XT3 to get the same pulling point as the M1 (I did this with a carabiner and some zip ties but will likely find a more permanent solution)

[@JvariW]

I’ve never said this but I like how Coop wears a ‘seemingly’ new shirt every video lol 😆

[@mikesmith379]

I think wheelbarrow against resistance targets the glutes much more than a regular push because it basically takes the quads out of the movement. It would be interesting to compare the two by seeing what is more sore after an initial intense workout.

[@paulg4672]

For the M1 I have had it a little over a year and the tread on single tire wore out quickly like three months… it works great and otherwise is awesome for my home gym

[@matthewreddick9334]

Appreciate the content. Can you review/comparison of the accessory lat pull downs on the budget racks such as the 1000 series from rep, the titan t3 attachment and the Amazon fitness reality lat pull down attachment?

[@Docmcfly233]

Yes do one.

[@danielnutting6028]

Scam alert

[@jamesbaynes6580]

I bought the M1, then waited. And waited. And waited for it to ship. After (3) weeks, I cancelled the sale and bought the Xebex; got it in a week. I knew going in that the M1 was on back order for (6) weeks, but that was too long to wait.

[@truman4956]

There is now an XT3 plus. Would be interested in another comparison 😁

[@brockdavies7015]

I’d love to see a review of the sled functionality on curved treadmills like Aussie runner pro or sledmill

[@OSMTraining]

If you have elderly clients or clients coming back from injury the very light resistance would be pretty good for them. If level 1 on the m1 is equivalent to level 5 on the xt3 that might be way too hard for some newbie/older clients to start with

[@Jester-qy1zp]

Coop, you didn’t mention that the hanger for the M1 is an extra $120

[@MonkeyMike619]

I made my own hanger for $10. No need spend $120

[@rodolfomedini9931]

Ohh waiting for someone to do this since xebex put their product to market

[@adamelliott3766]

The Exer-genie should also be included in your sled reviews - although not a sled it mimics a lot of the functionality and for home gym users should tick all the boxes: small, portable, easy to set-up, inexpensive etc. I think this is one of the most over-looked pieces of equipment out there.

[@2ndchancefitnessnutrition175]

I wish I could figure out a good anchor point for mine. I have minimal space inside, and outside I have gravel so I eat it on my face or slip on my butt a ton

[@babygiantbarbell1014]

Thanks for covering these coop! I can see one of these in my future sometime down the road and I appreciate the insights!

[@dubcee4694]

Coop! When are you going to review the TYTAX home gyms? Luv your channel btw👍🏾👍🏾!

[@andycane007]

Hope torque listens and makes their product more competitive with some modifications like the upright storage portion or a pm5 like monitor

[@danielnutting6028]

Scam alert

[@santosMikeyramos]

Coop you need to do this again with the upgrade!!! I was surprised.

[@GetRxd]

Lot more resistance on the XT3 Plus Sled!!

[@santosMikeyramos]

Yes, it was a huge upgrade. Loved it at the original one for my baby girl to push with me, but this upgrade was awesome.

[@daddydeeppocketz]

Lol I just watched the Ben Patrick sled drag video and then this was the next recommended. KZbin algo really putting in the work.

[@davidb1975a]

hmm... you may have convinced me to go with the Xebex XT3 sled.

[@jcruzgudino]

It looked like you flicked us off when you snapped at the end haha 😂 Love your content. Thank you for helping me built my home gym

[@stevesorensen9648]

That’s hysterical! Had to look at the end again when you said that! Coop has had it with us😜

[@jonathantuttle8808]

I would like to see a comparison of all different types of sleds (magnetic resistance, prowler with pads or continuous sled runners) on gravel driveways vs grass vs asphalt vs cement. Which would be best for each terrain. Thanks

[@apeekintime]

That Xebex has a lot of features I would love but honestly, the price on these are insane. I think the best feature is the ability to get some resistance without needing to lug plates outside. Pretty grab and go and allows you to train different styles pretty much on the fly with the scaling resistance. A luxury piece of kit and I think an air bike has more overall utility for 99% of home gym entusiasts (since snow/rain/etc won't interrupt your programming).

[@jcruzgudino]

Andrew Looks like you got this notification too, you think it’s spam? I got it too

[@danielnutting6028]

It's a scam

[@beoz658]

Love your channel. Can you recommend the best sled for pushing on dirt?

[@joecowan3719]

I have been toying with the idea of getting an M1, thanks COOP!

[@jcruzgudino]

Joe Looks like you got this too, you think it’s spam? I got it too

[@joecowan3719]

@@jcruzgudino Yup, this happens with every GGR comment from the past dozen or so videos

[@jcruzgudino]

@@joecowan3719 these damn spammers. No one is safe hahahaha

[@rodolfomedini9931]

I'd likely still go with torque based on top end resistance though the monitor and wheelbarrow feature are nice to have but ultimately less useful for me personally...

[@tas1424]

Joe Defranco bought the M4 for his home gym the other day. When I asked him, he told me he had been told my countless people that the M1 didn't provide enough resistance. For his famous 'Heavy Ass Sled Drags' and pushes, how do people feel the M1 would cope? I can still see it as a benefit for HIIT type stuff though.

[@MonkeyMike619]

The M1 offers more then enough resistance. If you want more resistance you just push/pull faster.

[@DavidFobare]

Which sled, when using “normally” is easier to turn around? You get to one of the driveway; you gotta turn around. Honestly this about the only time I can think of in a Coop review that the ball was dropped.

[@nickc3365]

I got the m1 months ago. I happily use it but I just don't think there is enough resistance. For sprinting it's ok but if you want to do a slow push or pull it's pretty easy to go 60 yards back and forth no problem and my cardio is not amazing. It makes me want to get the fancy mx model though as I have been using the m1 multiple times a week.

[@mightymochi6320]

Yea that’s my only issue as well. That and the fact you can’t push and pull in the same direction with the big handles.

[@CaptCanuck4444]

Load up the pin with weight. It gets much harder.

[@andrewcameron4277]

My wife going to be so pissed when I buy one of these

[@Wheniwasyoung15]

Eh i use a heavy duty garden cart (max load 500kg) because sleds are hella expensive for what they are and the $150 garden cart works just as well as the $1k+ sleds I've tried.

[@mjr2p3]

Coop, would love to see a review on the new Bells of Steel lat pulldown/low row machine. The only review I've seen online is from Calgary Barbell

[@colinhudson9808]

Hey would you be able to do a review on the exergenie

[@adamelliott3766]

Came into the comments looking for this suggestion specifically! +1 for an Exer-genie review Coop!

[@knightscoutblack]

I would like for you to try the total gym gravity , which is the commercial version of the total gym. Not the one you usually see on TV by Chuck Norris. It is a higher end.

[@alharris8861]

Hmmm, seems like a more versatile piece of equipment than I thought. May need to add that to the shopping list. M1 seems more my style

[@Black-Tiger]

best functional trainer under 4g

[@obiwanquixote8423]

Would love to see a review of the HiitMill-X. Seems like it would be a great sled solution for people without outdoor space

[@seabreezeof]

Would liked to have heard a little more on how the mechanical end works, as far as wear and tear of chain and magnets , if issues arise with regards to maintenance ?.

[@MichaelTraynorCircus]

Wish these were a comparable price in the UK, the M1 cost $1455 here.

[@derrik5329]

I've been waiting for this for a few months as I want a sled but wasn't sure which would be better and unfortunately after watching this I still can't make up my mind.

[@danielnutting6028]

Scam alert

[@tomcasey5128]

Which has better Warranty? Which has been the most reliable? Which has most resistance?

[@ak-zw8jv]

I'd be interested in your reviews if other xebex products. Air bike and rower look interesting although not a lot cheaper new than concept 2 but I do see them come up on marketplace from time to time. In general it seems like they make decent budget friendly products.

[@bobbullethalf]

Torque Tank M1, love it!

[@KenanTurkiye]

The engineering on some of these sleds seems to be better then the engineering on some French cars. lol

[@Optimization_Coach]

I have the Tank M4 and am really happy. Could it be better? Well yes! I would like a unit with a swivel option so I could spin the unit around quickly and also work on inner and outer ankle mobility. So make that and I will sell the M4 and get me a new toy!

[@samaboischool]

for wheelbarrow training, why not just use.... a wheelbarrow

[@user-of1oq4yh8i]

Thats why I'm not buying the wheel barrow attachments

[@anilkhanna2571]

Great review. Just ordered my torque sled. Can you recommended a clip on rope for the pull action?

[@reggiehoegh5595]

Do you have a video of rogue woodway?

[@roughtobebufftv5990]

Does the m1 have comparable resistance to the m4? I've gotten used to the larger m4 tank. My legs have gotten crazy strong. My fear is the m1 won't give the same resistance as the m4.

[@brockdavies7015]

Were you able to figure out if they have similar resistance?

[@michaelpietrzak2067]

Coop, can we get a review of the flipsled ?!?!

[@paulg4672]

Coop is there any way you could do a video on how to change the tire… the tank m1 tire lasts about a year and after that they recommend changing the tire. Thanks

[@danielhewitt8]

Can you do a review of the new Tuff Stuff performance place loaded machines. They have a Leg Curl/Extention combo that craps on the titan and even the new multipress and leg press are commercial rated but alot smaller footprint for the home gym

[@Seanyz]

Can you pull from the same side you push

[@grahamanderson8670]

M4 vs M1 please!

[@Jester-qy1zp]

The front tires on the Torque have been a constant issue. I use mine outside on asphalt and between them slipping and going bald and just straight up going flat for no reason or the valve stem tearing, I stay frustrated with mine.

[@JW88275]

I was seeing if someone else mentioned this - I have the same issue with the tires going flat. @GarageGymReviews, I would have liked to see how easy it is to change the inner tube for the front tire on both.

[@mightymochi6320]

Have you contacted the company to sort it out?

[@JW88275]

@@mightymochi6320 Yes, Torque has just sent replacement inner tubes but that is it.

[@jon5918]

The Xebex is supposed to be pulled from the other direction so the wheel doesn't come of the ground . . .

[@justrione]

Thank you Sir any sleds under 600

[@Eee00123]

Would you get M1 or the large 4 wheel tank?

[@chrisbowler6382]

You’re missing one of the biggest advantages of the M1: you can interchange the left and right handles to create a platform you can brace your back to and push, mimicking a sled pull. See in the torque fitness video kzbin.info/www/bejne/omOzkod3f5iopqc

[@GarageGymReviews]

Good callout and a really smart feature! Thanks for letting me know. - Coop

[@chrisbowler6382]

@@GarageGymReviews another good one: Heisman push kzbin.info/www/bejne/eanPYn97nMyLgc0

[@Tweel_Weight_Plate]

@@GarageGymReviews +

[@danielnutting6028]

@@GarageGymReviews Hey Coop, you have an impersonator trying to scam viewers, replying to our comments saying we won a prize.

[@danielnutting6028]

How is the traction for both in grass if I were to take them to the park or my back yard?

[@TLFbrosh]

Is it true that if you don’t get the monitor on the xebex, that the monitor cable just dangles on top?

[@paulg4672]

Any advice or recommendations on the tire loosing tread quickly?

[@CaptCanuck4444]

Make sure the tire is properly inflated.

[@Rocket4ce]

Imagine if they put a baby stroller on this.

[@jasonavery1401]

If you ever come to New Hampshire, I would love for you to come check out my basement gym and help me get more within the same space I have

[@F.Razor718]

Coop looks more like Sgt. Slaughter with each passing day

[@Rich_Lahman]

What would be a homemade version would look like? If anyone has done one.

[@futbol1972]

I was reading reviwes on rogue about the tank 3 wheeler. Customer said wheel in front got messed up because she was not adding weight. Torque Fitness told rogue that she needs to add 133lbs of weigjt so she won't have thoese probles.. I was going to get one for the reasony of not messing with plates. But it turns out i still need to add weigjt plates to it🙄 Well, that defers the purpose of buying these type of sleds. Lol I rather to have a rwgular sled with thoese skids plates under. What's the advantage of these over regular sled since both need to be loaded with plates???

[@brianshockley8161]

More quiet in the neighborhood, and can be used on the sidewalk or street without scraping.

[@futbol1972]

@@brianshockley8161 that's nice but couldn't I add skids to regular sled to do the same?

[@sergiojasso4799]

I bought the m1 last year and I really haven’t gotten much use out of it, I rather do sprints, go out for runs for my cardio way better than pushing a sled 😅

[@mightymochi6320]

It’s less for cardio for me and more for strengthening the knees / knee health.

[@ryankelly2026]

I’ve only used the M4 and it requires a lot of additional weight, so I would imagine the M1 would be too light, especially with the short pin.

[@nickc3365]

I have about 100lbs on it. It does leave behind a little rubber trail but more so when it was brand new. Probably should have a little more on there but running a little short on weights and don't like moving it around.

[@brandonsaysthings]

I put 90lbs on it, take it for 150-200 yards and return. So 300-400 yards as a "rep" and do 5-10 sets of 1 rep and trust me, that's plenty.

[@annetterobertson4200]

You make me spend money i dont have..thanks coop

[@tuckerbrannigan8699]

Hey Coop, if you see this can you do a review on the titan bicep tricep machine? I have seen 2 reviews on it, one praised it the whole video and 1 criticized it the whole video. I need the Coop score to tell me the truth

[@joaopedroparedes3357]

Please review the Marcy smith machine 4008, it would get a lot of views due to its affordability, can it substitute a squat rack?

[@talkingwithrafaelpodcast8034]

What’s the cheapest sled we can get ?

[@michaelbui407]

A plate loaded sled?

[@Maruiti]

You can make some pretty cheap ones with tire, wood and rope, there's a bunch of diy tutorials out there for it

[@joelantz9524]

I have the XEBEX at a FITNESS KICKBOXING Gym. The members LOVE it. We have 110ft of mats that we run it on- and we have people lined up to push it Before/After classes. It ended up being $1000 with the monitor..but it’s definitely worth it for our use.. if you want the cheapest sled- plate loaded only is going to be MUCH less expensive..could very likely Do It Yourself and have one that’s effective and very inexpensive.

[@1faith419]

When are we going to discuss the tragic loss of the Titan fitness Nemesis?? This is the scandal of the century!!

[@bastipear2864]

I wouldn't minde having either of them. Hecking expensive in germany

[@bmstylee]

It seems that Europe lacks selection for gym equipment compared to the US. Is it just lack of quality equipment or just lack of companies outside of Elieko? I'm not trying to sound like a jerk. I'm genuinely curious about what you have access to. I am fortunate to have Rogue and Elite FTS within 2 hours of me in Ohio. So if I'm getting a big order from Rogue I'm hopping in my truck and picking up instead of paying shipping. Elite is willing to work with you a bit of shipping if they can.

[@bastipear2864]

@@bmstylee in Germany we also have ATX, that is one premium producer of gym equipment. We also have some access to Rouge and some other minor brands. But in no way our "Sortiment" could compare to the assortment of stuff Americans can buy. Importing training gear from the states to europe for a decent price would be a great service to us Europeans.

[@bmstylee]

@@bastipear2864 got it. After looking at some of the ATX stuff I now want one of their gold power bars.

[@whiteknucklestormchasing]

The side of the Tank M1 sled says "All Surface SLED". This is 1000% false. It will not work, I repeat, will not work at all on any surface except asphalt or concrete. The front tire does nothing but slide and lose resistance on non paved surfaces. Adding weight doesn't help because the only place to add weight it at the rear of the sled which doesn't stop the front tire from skidding.

[@BeGrizzlyStrong]

You should get a winch and one of those scales that attach to see what the resistance actually is.

[@sl1237]

Too expensive for what it is. Fitness equipment pricing has gone crazy over the years.

[@thomasbrown7328]

Love my Tank M1 but to nitpick I wish it has a 2.5 resistance setting…. Somewhere between the 2nd and 3rd resistance. Hey GGR, do you still operate that commercial gym with the red carpet that you showed from the old XPO footage? Is membership strong? Old and young people? Mostly young people?

[@thomassullivan3078]

I have the xt3 and read somewhere that xebex will be offering a resistance upgrade in the future. Can anyone verify this?

[@thomassullivan3078]

*Edit Looks like they now offer the XT3 plus sled with great resistance and an upgrade for the regular XT3. Sweet!

[@Jeff-rn4be]

Nodamnbody can afford these coop

[@santosMikeyramos]

Hey coop, are these water resistant or you can only use them on sunny days?

[@dirtsmiles8098]

its $900 its not a home gym sled..

[@michaelbui407]

FIRST

[@bmstylee]

Coop. Any chance we see the Surplus Strength pulley kit anytime soon? I like the idea of it just curious if it's any good.